Chiefs kicker Harrison Butker bashes Pride Month, tells women to stay in the kitchen

[robosmith]

12 hours ago, West said:

The left rage about everything. Truth is they've created a system where they can indoctrinate kids with their bullshit.

Bottom line is more women should stay home and raise their kids instead of turning them over to unhinged people

Bottom line is you're pretending your false equivalence is VALID.

[User]

23 minutes ago, robosmith said:

What's horrible is saying that it's a great ambition on par with ALSO developing high functioning careers.

Holy crap. It is you guys who are the ones demeaning women here. 

This is precisely why we need people like Butker to stand up for women who are Homemakers because people like you demean them. 

7 hours ago, Hodad said:

There is some labor, but it's not skilled labor, and it's a lot more "time" than work. Our housework takes a fraction--a literal fraction--of the time. The actual labor to run a load of laundry and load and unload the dishwasher takes an hour, tops. That's why anyone who wants to can work and raise children just fine. 

Listen man, you have made your point here. You are the one demeaning women, not Butker. You are the one saying women are less if they are Homemakers. 

This is exactly why Butker said what he did, because there are people like you out there who think less of women who choose to stay home to invest in their family. 

[gatomontes99]

27 minutes ago, User said:

Holy crap. It is you guys who are the ones demeaning women here. 

This is precisely why we need people like Butker to stand up for women who are Homemakers because people like you demean them. 

 

#Truth

The real story here is how the left thinks women that are housewives are worth less than women that have careers. They look down on them. They despise them. Anyone that would glorify them must be attacked.

[Aristides]

57 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

#Truth

The real story here is how the left thinks women that are housewives are worth less than women that have careers. They look down on them. They despise them. Anyone that would glorify them must be attacked.

No one here has said that.

[CdnFox]

14 hours ago, Rebound said:

Now hold on… Here we have a guy giving a commencement speech, telling women to stay at home and not have careers.  That doesn’t mean the only alternative is that no woman should have children.  

No, here we DON"T have a guy telling women that at all.  

We have a guy saying for sure some women will go the career path but it's ok to take on the roll of being a wife and mother if  that's what they want. 

People like you have been telling them that they're bad people if they do that. He's telling them they are not 

14 hours ago, Rebound said:

WTF ever happened to freedom and liberty?

Good question. Why do you lefties hate freedom and liberty so much? Here's a guy saying "you can do what you like but it IS ok to choose this"  and you're all screaming that it's NOT ok for them to choose or for him to say that it's ok. 

So what precisely is your problem with the idea of saying "it's ok to be a mom"?  The freak out reminds me of when those posters went up saying "it's  ok to be white". 

[gatomontes99]

59 minutes ago, Aristides said:

No one here has said that.

What else can it mean when they get mad at him for saying housewife is a rewarding vocation?

[Rebound]

16 hours ago, West said:

The left rage about everything. Truth is they've created a system where they can indoctrinate kids with their bullshit.

Bottom line is more women should stay home and raise their kids instead of turning them over to unhinged people

Why should women stay at home but men should not?  

[Hodad]

3 hours ago, User said:

Holy crap. It is you guys who are the ones demeaning women here. 

This is precisely why we need people like Butker to stand up for women who are Homemakers because people like you demean them. 

Listen man, you have made your point here. You are the one demeaning women, not Butker. You are the one saying women are less if they are Homemakers. 

This is exactly why Butker said what he did, because there are people like you out there who think less of women who choose to stay home to invest in their family. 

Stop lying. I'm not demeaning women. What I say applies to any stay at home parent. 

I think less of equally capable people who don't have careers because they are literally doing less. It doesn't mean I'd be rude to them or disrespect them or treat them poorly. 

And I damn sure would get up on stage at the SAHP convention and tell them they'd all been lied to and were wasting their time.

Note the difference.

[Aristides]

1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

What else can it mean when they get mad at him for saying housewife is a rewarding vocation?

That's not what upsets them, it's women being told what they should want to be. Housewife is rewarding to women who want to be housewives. Nothing wrong with that.

[gatomontes99]

15 minutes ago, Aristides said:

That's not what upsets them, it's women being told what they should want to be. Housewife is rewarding to women who want to be housewives. Nothing wrong with that.

He didn't say they have to be that. He said they might be surprised how much they like it for f's sake.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

Why should women stay at home but men should not?  

because they want to. 

Seriously  you're not getting this. When given a choice the majority of women prefer that. Not all by any stretch but the majority, 

If a woman would prefer to work and chooses a mate who will stay at home then sure why not.  Nobody's saying that anyone has to do anything. 

But people like you have been saying that it's wrong and evil for a woman to want to stay home and raise  a family. ALL he said was it's not. 

[User]

1 hour ago, Hodad said:

Stop lying. I'm not demeaning women. What I say applies to any stay at home parent. 

I think less of equally capable people who don't have careers because they are literally doing less. It doesn't mean I'd be rude to them or disrespect them or treat them poorly. 

And I damn sure would get up on stage at the SAHP convention and tell them they'd all been lied to and were wasting their time.

Note the difference.

No lie, here you are again:

"I'm not demeaning women."

Next Paragraph

"I think less of equally capable people who don't have careers because they are literally doing less."

No, we can see exactly what you profess here publically, which is far worse than anything Butker said. I don't have to ponder a hypothetical with you. You are doing it right now. 

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, User said:

No lie, here you are again:

"I'm not demeaning women."

Next Paragraph

"I think less of equally capable people who don't have careers because they are literally doing less."

No, we can see exactly what you profess here publically, which is far worse than anything Butker said. I don't have to ponder a hypothetical with you. You are doing it right now. 

 

For the win. 

And this is what all the left wing arguments boil down to.  "I'm not saying women can't choose to be home makers, what i'm saying is they are clearly lesser sub-people if they do and we should look down on them". 

THe left is all about a woman's right to chose - IF they make a choice they approve of. .Otherwise,  eff the b*tch. 

[Hodad]

1 hour ago, User said:

No lie, here you are again:

"I'm not demeaning women."

Next Paragraph

"I think less of equally capable people who don't have careers because they are literally doing less."

No, we can see exactly what you profess here publically, which is far worse than anything Butker said. I don't have to ponder a hypothetical with you. You are doing it right now. 

 

Apparently you're just sexist enough to think that only women are stay at home parents. It's 2024, dude. Catch up.

If I said that murderers are scum, am I demeaning men? No, I'm making a statement about murderers. 

So stop lying.

[robosmith]

7 hours ago, User said:

Holy crap. It is you guys who are the ones demeaning women here. 

This is precisely why we need people like Butker to stand up for women who are Homemakers because people like you demean them. 

There is nothing demeaning about acknowledging greater contributions IN ADDITION TO OR INSTEAD OF homemaking.

For some reason you are delusional about the FACT that other professional accomplishments are MORE difficult and MORE VALUABLE.

The barrier to homemaking skills is significantly lower than most professional occupations. That is FACT whether you like it or not.

 

Edited May 18, 2024 by robosmith

[robosmith]

7 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

#Truth

The real story here is how the left thinks women that are housewives are worth less than women that have careers. They look down on them. They despise them. Anyone that would glorify them must be attacked.

 

Society says homemaking is worth less than PROFESSIONAL SKILLS. You are "attacked" because you FAIL to accept that REALITY.

[robosmith]

5 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

What else can it mean when they get mad at him for saying housewife is a rewarding vocation?

Who said housewife is not rewarding? It is certainly NOT AS REWARDING FINANCIALLY as being a doctor or lawyer, too.

[West]

4 hours ago, Rebound said:

Why should women stay at home but men should not?  

I actually respect the role of a homemaker whereas you think it makes them subordinate.

[Aristides]

48 minutes ago, West said:

I actually respect the role of a homemaker whereas you think it makes them subordinate.

What crap. The point is, women should be making those decisions for themselves, not men telling them what they should want to be. They are the ones showing no respect.

 

Regardless of what you macho men say, women will decide for themselves what they think of Butker and there is nothing you can do about it.

Edited May 19, 2024 by Aristides

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Hodad said:

Apparently you're just sexist enough to think that only women are stay at home parents. It's 2024, dude. Catch up.

If I said that murderers are scum, am I demeaning men? No, I'm making a statement about murderers. 

So stop lying.

ROFLMAO!!!!!!  Worse back pedal ever  

HE's talking directly to women and discussing being a wife and a mother.  

Now i know you leftist types think men can have babies these days but he probably doesn't think that  I'm pretty sure he was talking to women  

Nice try though. Always remember the leftist motto: " If truth and science isn't helping us then a pig-headed unwillingness to stare facts in the face will see us through!"

53 minutes ago, Aristides said:

What crap. The point is, women should be making those decisions for themselves, not men telling them what they should want to be. They are the ones showing no respect.

No, the point is that's what he did and you're still whining about it.

There's nothing wrong with saying the choice is yours and many will choose one direction or another but I want you to know that this is a perfectly valid choice and you should consider it despite the fact that the left says you're evil and Satan if you do.

So the real question is why the hell does the left feel the need to lie about what he said? They can't actually debate or discuss the point, they can't actually say he's right and that being a mother is a perfectly valid choice and let it go at that, they have to freak out and turn it into something he never said. Why is that? Why do you feel the need to do that? Why isn't the honest truth enough for you?

[West]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

What crap. The point is, women should be making those decisions for themselves, not men telling them what they should want to be. They are the ones showing no respect.

 

Regardless of what you macho men say, women will decide for themselves what they think of Butker and there is nothing you can do about it.

Looks like the Chiefs sold out of women's butker jerseys. Many are rejecting your wokeism realizing raising kids is a good thing

[User]

4 hours ago, robosmith said:

Who said housewife is not rewarding? It is certainly NOT AS REWARDING FINANCIALLY as being a doctor or lawyer, too.

Doctor or Lawyer? Those are highly specialized professions that the average person, male or female, will never be. 

You are arguing average homemaker vs the margins for highest earning careers. 

[User]

4 hours ago, robosmith said:

Society says homemaking is worth less than PROFESSIONAL SKILLS. You are "attacked" because you FAIL to accept that REALITY.

Worth less... how?

You are conflating salary value vs "worth" in many other senses of the word. What is important here is the value the woman gets out of what she is doing. 

If the woman values being a Homemaker more than a Doctor or Lawyer, then good for her. Who are you or anyone else to tell her she is worth less for that? You can't put a real price on the investment of time into your children. 

[User]

5 hours ago, Hodad said:

Apparently you're just sexist enough to think that only women are stay at home parents. It's 2024, dude. Catch up.

If I said that murderers are scum, am I demeaning men? No, I'm making a statement about murderers. 

So stop lying.

Talk about some dishonest obfuscation. This thread is about women being Homemakers because you and others are making up crap about what Butker said to women. 

You don't get to pretend that now all of a sudden you were never talking about women. 

So... are you now saying that everything you have said about being a Homemaker up to this point was only in regards to males and none of it applies to females?

 

[User]

4 hours ago, robosmith said:

There is nothing demeaning about acknowledging greater contributions IN ADDITION TO OR INSTEAD OF homemaking.

That is not what you said. You said:

"What's horrible is saying that it's a great ambition on par with ALSO developing high functioning careers."

You are the one demeaning women here. 

Your whole attitude is to look down on them with scorn if they are Homemakers. Telling them they are less valuable. Less ambition... its all insulting and demeaning. 

This is exactly why Butker said what he did. Folks like you look down on women who invest more into their families.