Chiefs kicker Harrison Butker bashes Pride Month, tells women to stay in the kitchen

[User]

2 minutes ago, Hodad said:

🤪I can't prove that you're being dishonest. You may, in fact, be just too abysmally stupid to understand plain language. I don't think that's the case, but it's the only other option to dishonest here. You can choose.

Since you did not pay attention, I will just repost what I already did:

That I don't agree with you doesn't make me dishonest. Go ahead and quote him then, make your case. 

[Hodad]

Just now, User said:

Since you did not pay attention, I will just repost what I already did:

That I don't agree with you doesn't make me dishonest. Go ahead and quote him then, make your case. 

Bugger off. He's been quoted a dozen times in this thread. Reposting it isn't going to conjure up new meaning. If you're going to keep playing dumb, play by yourself.

 

[User]

4 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Bugger off. He's been quoted a dozen times in this thread. Reposting it isn't going to conjure up new meaning. If you're going to keep playing dumb, play by yourself.

The extent of your "intelligent" contributions here were to say he pooped on their special day. 

When you feel like you want to add more, beyond the petty childish nonsense, let me know. 

[Aristides]

32 minutes ago, Hodad said:

That's crap. Women's bodies are not "designed" at all, let alone "designed for homemaking." There is no body type to sweep the floors, do the dishes and cook the meals. 

We're not hunter gatherers anymore. There is no correlation between strength and speed and the ability to put food on the table. Today, our livelihoods are earned between the ears. and women are more than ready to compete intellectually. That's what pisses off Neanderthals like Butker, and why they want those "uppity women" to get back in their place. You people are always afraid of the erosion of your privilege and terrified at the thought of competing on a level playing field. 

Actually we are seeing more women in occupations such as trades and transportation that were traditionally male. 

[Nationalist]

29 minutes ago, Hodad said:

That's crap. Women's bodies are not "designed" at all, let alone "designed for homemaking." There is no body type to sweep the floors, do the dishes and cook the meals. 

We're not hunter gatherers anymore. There is no correlation between strength and speed and the ability to put food on the table. Today, our livelihoods are earned between the ears. and women are more than ready to compete intellectually. That's what pisses off Neanderthals like Butker, and why they want those "uppity women" to get back in their place. You people are always afraid of the erosion of your privilege and terrified at the thought of competing on a level playing field. 

No? So your boobs make milk? You can squeeze puppies out the end of your dick? Be serious...

Butker did not say "uppidy women" as far as I know. He's pointing out that our very beings are designed for certain purposes, which we deny, and that this is causing all sorts of issues.

[Deluge]

On 5/14/2024 at 8:02 AM, NakedHunterBiden said:

Chiefs kicker Harrison Butker bashes Pride Month, tells women to stay in the kitchen

Chiefs kicker Harrison Butker bashes Pride Month, tells women to stay in the kitchen - Yahoo Sports
Do you agree with Harrison?

After delivering some incendiary comments about Covid and President Biden, Butker got around to what he perceives as a woman’s ultimate and rightful place: the kitchen.
“I think it is you, the women, who have had the most diabolic lies told to you. Some of you may go on to lead successful careers in the world but I would venture to guess that the majority of you are most excited about your marriage and the children you will bring into this world.

A kid's best chance is with mom staying at home. Of course, pinko penis enviers would scream otherwise, but society is finally learning to put those banshees on ignore. 

[Hodad]

25 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

No? So your boobs make milk? You can squeeze puppies out the end of your dick? Be serious...

Butker did not say "uppidy women" as far as I know. He's pointing out that our very beings are designed for certain purposes, which we deny, and that this is causing all sorts of issues.

So, in your mind, giving birth is the same thing as being a homemaker?

You claim to have a daughter. Does she have ambitions in life beyond being a homemaker? Do you want her to achieve her dreams? Would you rather she were just knocked up folding laundry? 

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Rebound said:

You’re the one who’s being dishonest here.  The person who wrote the article said “kitchen.” Kitchen/Home… same intent.  
e moms.  

That is such an obviously blatant lie that you should be ashamed of yourself. 

THere is a MASSIVE difference between "there's nothing wrong with being a home maker" and  "women should be in the kitchen". Those two statements are  RADICALLY different.  

IT would be like comparing "there's nothing wrong with a black person choosing to own a farm" and "black people should pick cotton". 

That's why they needed to CHANGE it to 'the kitchen'.  If it was the same thing they could have just left it. 

[CdnFox]

5 minutes ago, Deluge said:

A kid's best chance is with mom staying at home. Of course, pinko penis enviers would scream otherwise, but society is finally learning to put those banshees on ignore. 

That and having a father in the home - which he points out!  Want a well adjusted happy child that grows up to be a productive and happy person? Your best chance is a two  parent home where at least one of the parents is around a lot and the other is actively involved with the child as well. 

That's simple truth. 

[CdnFox]

6 minutes ago, Hodad said:

So, in your mind, giving birth is the same thing as being a homemaker?

You claim to have a daughter. Does she have ambitions in life beyond being a homemaker? Do you want her to achieve her dreams? Would you rather she were just knocked up folding laundry? 

If she doesn't - should he beat her and throw her out of the house?  Is she a terrible person? Would you like us to tie her to an alter for you so you can sacrifice her?

What  a scumbag you are.  You're literally saying that if a woman doesn't choose what YOU want her to do then something's wrong.  You're doing what you're accusing the speaker of doing  but he didn't. 

Every day the left finds new ways to be loathsome and contemptable. 

[Deluge]

7 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

That and having a father in the home - which he points out!  Want a well adjusted happy child that grows up to be a productive and happy person? Your best chance is a two  parent home where at least one of the parents is around a lot and the other is actively involved with the child as well. 

That's simple truth. 

Yes, thank you for clarifying. A two parent home most certainly is a kid's best chance. 

[impartialobserver]

Butker was giving this speech at a Catholic university so not exactly out of place. His view of having women not pursue careers but rather stay at home and procreate is not exactly new. He hedges on this by saying "some have successful careers and so on".. which is just a roundabout way of saying that most would have better lives if they did not pursue the degree and career. This is a reaction in part to the current declining birth rate in the US which i do not see as a major problem in the long run. 

[CdnFox]

5 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

Butker was giving this speech at a Catholic university so not exactly out of place. His view of having women not pursue careers but rather stay at home and procreate is not exactly new. He hedges on this by saying "some have successful careers and so on".. which is just a roundabout way of saying that most would have better lives if they did not pursue the degree and career. This is a reaction in part to the current declining birth rate in the US which i do not see as a major problem in the long run. 

Sorry man - i generally respect your comments but that was complete leftist bullshit. 

He does not 'hedge' anything.  He doesn't even say that they SHOULD feel one way or another. That is a lie that you and others are pushing because you're so heterophobic these days that any suggestion that a married couple with children is a good thing is taken as a person affront. 

He very clearly said  that without a doubt some women will choose to have carrers but that he GUESSES that most of the ones WHO WERE PRESENT AT THE CATHOLIC SCHOOL EVENT would likely be most interested in being a wife and mother. 

Not even all women everywhere - he is talking to and refers directly to the women present. 

He also notes that a lot of women find that life very fulfilling and rewarding. Like his wife. 

You absolutely lie in the worst way by adding in all kinds of bullshit "round about way of saying" and "what he REALLY means is".   He stated very clearly EXACTLY what he means. 

the sexist here is you.  you cannot imagine that women might want to be mothers and wives.  You look down on women who choose to be a home maker like it's some sort of undesirable thing to do or a form of slavery. 

You should be deeply ashamed of your reaction. It is sexist and bigoted and beneath you

[Nationalist]

17 minutes ago, Hodad said:

So, in your mind, giving birth is the same thing as being a homemaker?

You claim to have a daughter. Does she have ambitions in life beyond being a homemaker? Do you want her to achieve her dreams? Would you rather she were just knocked up folding laundry? 

Traditionally yes.

My daughter gets married this summer. She talks about having kids as soon as she's married. They plan to take over one of my houses completely and have a family. They are both models and actors. Good money but, he plans to go to firefighter school after the wedding so he has a steady and reliable income. She plans to squeeze some puppies and...yes...fold laundry. She also plans to take some remote courses and build a career for later when the kids don't require constant care and supervision.

Sounds reasonable to me...you?

[Deluge]

16 minutes ago, Hodad said:

So, in your mind, giving birth is the same thing as being a homemaker?

You claim to have a daughter. Does she have ambitions in life beyond being a homemaker? Do you want her to achieve her dreams? Would you rather she were just knocked up folding laundry? 

I would rather see her turning a house into a home.

But if she wants to paint her hair green and scream at everything that moves, then so be it - it's still a free country. 

 

 

 

[CdnFox]

4 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Traditionally yes.

My daughter gets married this summer. She talks about having kids as soon as she's married. They plan to take over one of my houses completely and have a family. They are both models and actors. Good money but, he plans to go to firefighter school after the wedding so he has a steady and reliable income. She plans to squeeze some puppies and...yes...fold laundry. She also plans to take some remote courses and build a career for later when the kids don't require constant care and supervision.

Sounds reasonable to me...you?

As i've mentioned but the left likes to gloss over, in countries like denmark where women have arguably the HIGHEST amount of choice and access to every kind of profession or vocation and where society pushes them to explore options ,  "wife and homemaker' is still the number one choice.  When women have a choice, they most often (not always but most often) choose to bring children into the world and care for them and nurture them. 

There is NOTHING wrong with that. 

But the left would have us believe that any woman who thinks that way is straight out of the handmaidens tale and should be punished for allowing herself to be repressed like that. 

[Hodad]

8 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Traditionally yes.

My daughter gets married this summer. She talks about having kids as soon as she's married. They plan to take over one of my houses completely and have a family. They are both models and actors. Good money but, he plans to go to firefighter school after the wedding so he has a steady and reliable income. She plans to squeeze some puppies and...yes...fold laundry. She also plans to take some remote courses and build a career for later when the kids don't require constant care and supervision.

Sounds reasonable to me...you?

That's fine with me. I wish her luck with family and career. 

Do you think that she wishes to get an education because she has been fed a "diabolical lie" about finding fulfillment outside of her role as a homemaker? 

That's what Butker told those women in attendance. As they stood there, waiting for their diplomas, excited to see where their 4+ years of hard work could take them he told them it was all a lie. That he--and Jesus--want them to go make babies instead. You've wasted 4 years ladies, happy graduation.

Edited May 17, 2024 by Hodad

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Hodad said:

That's fine with me. I wish her luck with family and career. 

Do you think that she wishes to get an education because she has been fed a "diabolical lie" about finding fulfillment outside of her role as a homemaker? 

That's what Butker told those women in attendance. As they stood there, waiting for their diplomas, excited to see where their 4+ years of hard work could take them he told them it was all a lie. That he--and Jesus--want them to go make babies instead. You've wasted 4 years ladies, happy graduation.

The 'diabolical lie" was that you CAN"T find fulfillment raising a family and that you shoulnd't try.  That it was wrong to think that wanting to be a home maker was a worth while goal 

It's a lie you perpetrate right here 

But how kind of you that you're 'fine' with a woman being able to make her own choice about that.  That's quite a concession on your part. 

[User]

10 minutes ago, Hodad said:

That's what Butker told those women in attendance. As they stood there, waiting for their diplomas, excited to see where their 4+ years of hard work could take them he told them it was all a lie. That he--and Jesus--want them to go make babies instead. You've wasted 4 years ladies, happy graduation.

Once again, here you are making up things he never said. 

 

[Nationalist]

13 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

As i've mentioned but the left likes to gloss over, in countries like denmark where women have arguably the HIGHEST amount of choice and access to every kind of profession or vocation and where society pushes them to explore options ,  "wife and homemaker' is still the number one choice.  When women have a choice, they most often (not always but most often) choose to bring children into the world and care for them and nurture them. 

There is NOTHING wrong with that. 

But the left would have us believe that any woman who thinks that way is straight out of the handmaidens tale and should be punished for allowing herself to be repressed like that. 

Ya well...we have to excuse these silly Libbies some because...Professor Twinkleballs didn't explain how to deal with nature...except to rail against it...

[User]

51 minutes ago, Hodad said:

You claim to have a daughter. Does she have ambitions in life beyond being a homemaker? Do you want her to achieve her dreams? Would you rather she were just knocked up folding laundry? 

You think being a Homemaker is just being knocked up folding laundry?

Look at you insulting all those women out there who invest time into their family to raise their children by reducing it to being knocked up and folding laundry. That it is below other ambitions that you say are "beyond" it. That this would not be part of her dreams. Shame on you. 

[Nationalist]

1 minute ago, User said:

You think being a Homemaker is just being knocked up folding laundry?

Look at you insulting all those women out there who invest time into their family to raise their children by reducing it to being knocked up and folding laundry. That it is below other ambitions that you say are "beyond" it. That this would not be part of her dreams. Shame on you. 

Don't be too hard of the poor tyke User. Its eclectic to promote ideas that discourage families.

So is jumping off a cliff...

 

[impartialobserver]

Well, I am one of those that finds no fault in a woman not wanting to have kids or waiting. If they pursue the degree/career first and then the family. Men have followed this path for decades.. why can't the women? Some think that by waiting. they have fewer kids and that is not the optimal way to be. I would rather have quality of interaction over quantity. I have 2 and that's enough. My late father created six and as a result, worked very hard and was either not around or in too poor of health for quality interaction. 

[Hodad]

1 hour ago, User said:

You think being a Homemaker is just being knocked up folding laundry?

Look at you insulting all those women out there who invest time into their family to raise their children by reducing it to being knocked up and folding laundry. That it is below other ambitions that you say are "beyond" it. That this would not be part of her dreams. Shame on you. 

Breeding and rearing children is the baseline for every animal on the planet. So yes, women who do more are going beyond that. A mother who has happy, healthy children has accomplished something. A mother who has happy, healthy children and a career has accomplished more. That should be obvious.

[User]

5 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Breeding and rearing children is the baseline for every animal on the planet. So yes, women who do more are going beyond that. A mother who has happy, healthy children has accomplished something. A mother who has happy, healthy children and a career has accomplished more. That should be obvious.

So, we have established now, without a doubt, that it is you who is demeaning women here. What's funny is that you are trying too hard to twist what Butker said and outright makeup crap he didn't say to try to paint him as someone doing what it is you are actually doing.

Women who stay home to invest in their family are also going beyond what a woman with a career is doing. They spend more time with their children, more time building a home for their family, they too are doing more and going beyond. 

You are the one demeaning women here now.