McGill asks police for help as pro-Palestinian encampment enters 4th day - Police say 'no crime is being committed' at the encampment

[Dougie93]

Just now, Michael Hardner said:

If he's still around he's voting for Trump.  Nobody talks about the hippies anymore... because it's embarrassing to the left AND the right.

my father is dead

but he would never vote for Trump

he always despised Donald Trump

he always despised the Republicans, except for Abraham Lincoln

my father was an FDR New Dealer Democrat

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

Why do you call them this ?

I don't believe in the distinction between "Palestinians" and "Hamas" from this side of the pond.

For sure there are some moms, born to that area, who want no part of it, but from here, when we go against Israel, we're just playing the role of Iranian puppets. 

This shit should have been sorted out 50 years ago. There were more Syrian/Iraqi state refugees from islamic state than there ever were Palestinian refugees, and the Syrians/Iraqis are all settled now. It's time to stop bombing Israel. 

[Dougie93]

9 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I don't believe in the distinction between "Palestinians" and "Hamas" from this side of the pond.

it was the same with the North Vietnamese back in 1968

the campus Commies wanted to believe that the North Vietnamese were some kind of freedom fighters

when in fact the regime in Hanoi was a brutal mass murdering totalitarian dictatorship

particularly after Le Duan, the Stalin of Southeast Asia;  deposed Ho Chi Minh

 

[Dougie93]

4 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

I don't know about to death. I wouldn't lose sleep if they were maced and batoned into submission.

I wouldn't target the students, since they are basically just naive overage adolescents

the thing to do would be to target the Iranian backed terrorist organizations behind the scenes

invoke Counterterrorism legislation against them

then unleash the National Mission Force : Joint Task Force 2

Counterleadership Operations ; High Value Target Kill-Capture

then you hold the perpetrators in super maximum security prison, indefinitely, under Ministerial Certificate

cut the the snake off at the head, not the tail

[Moonlight Graham]

On 5/1/2024 at 11:50 AM, Gaétan said:

The universities are not private properties but public properties, everybody can go there, this is not like your home.

Including Jews.

People aren't legally allowed to setup occupied encampments on public property with barricades and checkpoints in order to not allow people of certain ethnicities to enter said public property.  Ironically, this is apartheid.

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Your support for genocide will be reproached to you after your life

Genocide?  I'm not the one glorifying Oct 7, chanting "From the river to the sea...", denying food aid to starving people or murdering innocents then hiding inside/under hospitals and schools and then calling myself a victim.

Edited May 2, 2024 by Moonlight Graham

[WestCanMan]

46 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

it was the same with the North Vietnamese back in 1968

the campus Commies wanted to believe that the North Vietnamese were some kind of freedom fighters

when in fact the regime in Hanoi was a brutal mass murdering totalitarian dictatorship

particularly after Le Duan, the Stalin of Southeast Asia;  deposed Ho Chi Minh

 

Do you know who this is?

[Michael Hardner]

59 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

... when we go against Israel, we're just playing the role of Iranian puppets. 

So... we can't oppose Israel in any way ?  Or... it's wrong to ?  I find that weird... we even oppose the US and we're joined at the hip to them.  

[WestCanMan]

15 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

I wouldn't target the students, since they are basically just naive overage adolescents

the thing to do would be to target the Iranian backed terrorist organizations behind the scenes

invoke Counterterrorism legislation against them

then unleash the National Mission Force : Joint Task Force 2

Counterleadership Operations ; High Value Target Kill-Capture

then you hold the perpetrators in super maximum security prison, indefinitely, under Ministerial Certificate

cut the the snake off at the head, not the tail

👍👍

That's what I loved about Trump's "war".

Instead of a war of attrition, sending 17-25 yr olds into the meat grinder, he engaged the leaders of terrorist orgs directly. 

Islamic terrorist attacks are down sharply since Trump was president, which means less hatred all around. 

2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

So... we can't oppose Israel in any way ?  Or... it's wrong to ?  I find that weird... we even oppose the US and we're joined at the hip to them.  

We can advocate for peace through condemning Hamas et al specifically as what they are.

Iranian pawns fomenting hatred against Jews. 

[Guest]

4 hours ago, Gaétan said:

There is no anti semitism since world war 2

That is like saying that wind doesn't exist because you can't physically see it, unless its a hurricane, tornado or likewise event.

Just because you don't see racially driven hatred towards the Jewish community doesn't negate its existence.

Saying it does, doesn't make it fact. Just makes you out of touch, and insanely fortunate you haven't dealt with racism your entire life.

4 hours ago, Gaétan said:

the demonstrators protest for justice. 

Justice for what?

I hope you do realize there literally is a non biased and fairness driven pillar to what justice is supposed to be.

Pushing for the shaming of one, but being whisper quiet on the atrocities of the other, is not justice.

That is literally silencing one's voice which is literally the antithesis to justice.

Being disgusted when Gazans get attacked, but sleeping soundly at other Arabic states doing the same, isn't justice driven. It's hypocrisy driven.

Heck, that latter driver parked in 3 spots but is trying to tell you its parked in one.

Thats a metaphor for BS being BS, even if you spray fragrance on top. 

4 hours ago, Gaétan said:

The country the most corrupted in the world is not Haïti but the US and Canada.

Tell that to those living in Haiti, scrambling for either country.

You clearly have never experienced the level of corruption seen in Haiti. Its easy to talk about the world when you haven't seen much of it.

Yes. Am speaking as someone who has been there.

Canada's and America's history is littered with wars, atrocities such as slavery, colonialism and many atrocities in between. But to compare it to Haiti which has your odds of being killed, raped or robbed as being insanely likely, is just you being completely out of touch with reality.

[Michael Hardner]

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

 We can advocate for peace through condemning Hamas et al specifically as what they are.

Iranian pawns fomenting hatred against Jews. 

I think it's perfectly reasonable to call out Israel for going too far.  To do so is not pro-Hammas... 

[WestCanMan]

6 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I think it's perfectly reasonable to call out Israel for going too far.  To do so is not pro-Hammas... 

What's too far though?

Hamas has hundreds of kms of underground tunnels, and they constantly bomb Israel.

How long 'til they start getting cruise missiles or strategic nukes in through that system?

At some point the Israelis have to say enough is enough. Palestine's/Hamas's ridiculous devotion to committing genocide earned them an old-school, pants-down whooping. 

[Michael Hardner]

8 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

What's too far though?

Hamas has hundreds of kms of underground tunnels, and they constantly bomb Israel.

How long 'til they start getting cruise missiles or strategic nukes in through that system?

At some point the Israelis have to say enough is enough. Palestine's/Hamas's ridiculous devotion to committing genocide earned them an old-school, pants-down whooping. 

Well do you think there's a too far ?  If so then all you disagree with the protesters on, is where that line is.

[eyeball]

41 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

cut the the snake off at the head, not the tail

Except that would take courage and conviction.

So that's why it won't happen.

[CdnFox]

4 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Well do you think there's a too far ?  If so then all you disagree with the protesters on, is where that line is.

too far is when they've broken international law and a competent authority has ruled so - and then the remedy is to correct that incident.

 So if there's a specific incident or the like you have in mind then fine but just criticizing Israel in a general sense for going "too far" when even you can't articulate what that means is basically supporting hamas.

[Gaétan]

Universities and politicians don't like it when students protest because they're making profits from the genocide. The police do absolutely nothing about injustice, but they perpetuate and increase it by arresting students What other evidence do you want to see that Canada and the United States are the most corrupt countries in the world.

[WestCanMan]

8 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Well do you think there's a too far ?  If so then all you disagree with the protesters on, is where that line is.

It's a hard war for the Israelis to fight.

Urban battle grounds are rife with perches for snipers and rpgs, weapons storage caches, bunkers, and civilian meat shields. The enemies don't wear uniforms, so they just attack and then blend in. 

The last time Israel went in with force they lost a lot of tanks and they didn't accomplish nearly enough. 

This is their new plan. Who's to say that they should just sit back and wait for Hamas to gather 40,000 rockets this time, or 70,000? 

It's tough to watch, but they earned every bit of this. 

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Gaétan said:

Universities and politicians don't like it when students protest because they're making profits from the genocide.

Woudln't they still be making profits from the genocide even if students are protesting? IN fact - wouldn't that make it even easier as they don't have to pay to have the classes?

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 The police do absolutely nothing about injustice, but they perpetuate and increase it by arresting students What other evidence do you want to see that Canada and the United States are the most corrupt countries in the world.

 

Do nothing about injustice? Sorry - did you want them to go arrest israel?

 

[Gaétan]

3 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Do nothing about injustice? Sorry - did you want them to go arrest israel?

 

The police can do a lot, but those who run them are criminals like arm sellers, war criminals, corrupted people.

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Gaétan said:

The police can do a lot, but those who run them are criminals like arm sellers, war criminals, corrupted people.

Arm sellers?

Ah yes. The infamous prosthetic mafia. Very bad.

[Guest]

5 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

What's too far though?

To me, it would be nuclear weapons. Shooting babies.

One Hamas is incapable of. The other is par for the course.

For them, too far would be peace with Israel. Israel, too far is collateral damage being too high.

[herbie]

Police say 'no crime is being committed'

So they can't arrest people and they're the only ones who can arrest people. I see another inflammatory headline here, that's all.

WE have our own Yellow Journal, the Nazional Post for those.

[WestCanMan]

8 minutes ago, herbie said:

Police say 'no crime is being committed'

So they can't arrest people and they're the only ones who can arrest people. I see another inflammatory headline here, that's all.

WE have our own Yellow Journal, the Nazional Post for those.

At least we know herbie isn't being inconvenienced, right?

But as usual, you're on the wrong side of history. 

[Gaétan]

François Legault would like the police to intervene in student protests because they disturb his friends who are making profits from the genocide in Gaza.

[herbie]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

At least we know herbie isn't being inconvenienced, right?

Like we know you sure aren't an alimni being bothered in the least.

[Michael Hardner]

15 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

It's tough to watch, but they earned every bit of this. 

If you can admit stuff to watch, you can admit that some people feel it's tough enough to want to protest. Are you against this protest then? It sure seems a lot less inconvenient than the Ottawa convoy protest.