Legato Posted May 1 Report Share Posted May 1 1 hour ago, eyeball said: I'm sure many, especially the religious ones, wish Israel had never been created but I don't believe all Palestinians wish that, especially the left-wing secular ones. Secular? If so I'd like to meet him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted May 1 Author Report Share Posted May 1 11 minutes ago, herbie said: Because they're busy portraying them as ProHamas rallies like the OP to fit their political agenda. Which is 100% against reasoning and sane thought. Even though I think protesting at a N American university against a war between people who aren't N American is futile, and the extremists are demanding disinvestment in companies 'that do business with Israel' is disingenuine. Divest in Lockheed because Israel buys F35s same as us? Invest in terrorists that rape, murder and take hostages instead? FYI the rallies started on Oct 8th. What were they protesting for or against on Oct 8th, herbie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted May 1 Author Report Share Posted May 1 11 minutes ago, eyeball said: Plenty for my purposes. Even one would be one too many for you I suspect. I'm secular myself, and a hard-core leftist by ME standards. I'd be thrilled if there was a secular liberal thriving in Gaza, but I know that there isn't one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted May 1 Report Share Posted May 1 25 minutes ago, Legato said: Secular? If so I'd like to meet him. I doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Groot Posted May 1 Report Share Posted May 1 On 4/28/2024 at 6:05 PM, ExFlyer said: 400 million muslims vs 15 million jews. I am sure that there will be more in every facet of crime and other things. In the US, why more blacks than whites? In Canada why more indigenous than others?? Oh, you want world population comparisons, eh? Okay, how's this one? Muslims make 23% of world population but got 1.5% Nobel prizes,while the Jews account for 0.2% of world population but got 20% Nobel prizes. On 4/28/2024 at 6:05 PM, ExFlyer said: And really, using Toronto?? How narrow minded and focus. LOL Try this one if it makes you happier. 25 men and by my reckoning about 9 are Muslim. No obvious Jews here. https://www.boloprogram.org/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Groot Posted May 1 Report Share Posted May 1 On 4/29/2024 at 7:56 AM, ExFlyer said: Listing the "wars" Israel has been involved in only demonstrates the disharmonious situation and tension that has been the middle east since Israel was established. And well before then, too. The only thing that creates harmony is absolute, autocratic dictatorship with enough force to suppress rebellion. Incidentally, if you added up all the deaths in all the wars Israel has been involved in since its inception you'd come to about 60k people. The US has killed that many while fighting ISIS. Almost ten times that many have died in the Syrian wars alone - which are continuing. Twice that number died in the fighting between Iran and Iraq. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted May 1 Report Share Posted May 1 9 minutes ago, I am Groot said: Oh, you want world population comparisons, eh? Okay, how's this one? Muslims make 23% of world population but got 1.5% Nobel prizes,while the Jews account for 0.2% of world population but got 20% Nobel prizes. Try this one if it makes you happier. 25 men and by my reckoning about 9 are Muslim. No obvious Jews here. https://www.boloprogram.org/ Goodbye Muslim hater. Nobel prize??? LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted May 1 Author Report Share Posted May 1 18 minutes ago, eyeball said: I doubt it. It's like you really want to chime in here but you have nothing worth saying... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted May 1 Report Share Posted May 1 4 minutes ago, I am Groot said: And well before then, too. The only thing that creates harmony is absolute, autocratic dictatorship with enough force to suppress rebellion. Incidentally, if you added up all the deaths in all the wars Israel has been involved in since its inception you'd come to about 60k people. The US has killed that many while fighting ISIS. Almost ten times that many have died in the Syrian wars alone - which are continuing. Twice that number died in the fighting between Iran and Iraq. On both sides US? ISIS? Syrian wars? You guys are expert deflectors LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted May 1 Report Share Posted May 1 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: So you're finally admitting that you're in favour of muslims ethnically cleansing that entire region. Thanks. LMAO you're a f*ckin' Grade A dunce. Quote I never said that you were trying to convince people of your stupidity and ignorance, not even AOC does that. I just informed you that that's what you were doing. Now that you've admitted to be in favour of ethnic cleansing, no one has to doubt anything that I said about you. What is it with you dummies on here that you have to invent so many sad strawman arguments. Is it lead poisoning? It's probably the lead poisoning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Groot Posted May 1 Report Share Posted May 1 7 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Goodbye Muslim hater. Nobel prize??? LOL Facts triggering you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted May 1 Report Share Posted May 1 55 minutes ago, eyeball said: Plenty for my purposes. Even one would be one too many for you I suspect. From listening to people like you. Secular leftism which is Socialism has failed wherever it has been tried. Socialism is stealing from those that worked and earned something to give to those who did nothing to earn it. How does that even have anything to do with the conflict in the middle east? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Groot Posted May 1 Report Share Posted May 1 8 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Not at all, just knowing you have no points and are deflecting tells me everything LOL Loser LOL Resorting to name calling is a clear sign of losing an argument and nothing more to add to you point LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User Posted May 1 Report Share Posted May 1 4 hours ago, Black Dog said: I note that you had to add the term "en masse" which isn't in the definition I provided. There's nothing that says ethnic cleansing must be conducted with speed or against a large group at once versus slowly and piecemeal. And there's nothing in the definition of ethnic cleansing about reducing the overall size of a given population either, but please continue to grasp at straws. Again you're doing nothing here but betraying your own ignorance of Israel's policies and motivations here. If we go with your definition, it is "ethnic cleansing" if Israel evicts one Palestinian from their home for any reason. I mention the amount, because with what Israel is doing, there is no real path to ever achieving any kind of you know... "ethnic cleansing" So, if that outcome is not going to happen... how is it that you claim that is what is being done? Listen to yourself, you claim that it doesn't matter if the population is not reduced... so then how is it ethnic cleansing if nothing is being cleansed? You are the one ignoring the complexity behind the fact that Palestinians lost a war, and Israel's ongoing Settlement policies, which started with a concern with Security... you know, because the Palestinians and others keep trying to kill them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted May 1 Author Report Share Posted May 1 35 minutes ago, Black Dog said: LMAO you're a f*ckin' Grade A dunce. Stop swearing black puppy, you're the one who admitted to supporting an ongoing ethnic cleansing. Quote What is it with you dummies on here that you have to invent so many sad strawman arguments. Is it lead poisoning? It's probably the lead poisoning. I didn't invent anything. I just told you that the guys you're supporting didn't just start trying to ethnically cleansing the region in 1948, they've been doing it for centuries, and you just said "Sure, so what?" indicating that you already knew. If you know that the Jews are trying to defend themselves from a genocide, why are you so upset about the fact that they're getting rid of a genocidal army? Why do you never have anything intelligent to say? You honestly sound like a drunk Al Qaeda member. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExFlyer Posted May 1 Report Share Posted May 1 (edited) 1 hour ago, I am Groot said: Resorting to name calling is a clear sign of losing an argument and nothing more to add to you point LOL How ya doin??? Got nuthin Eh? Fgures LOL "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.” Head hurt yet? LOL Edited May 1 by ExFlyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted May 1 Report Share Posted May 1 2 hours ago, WestCanMan said: I'm secular myself, and a hard-core leftist by ME standards. I'd be thrilled if there was a secular liberal thriving in Gaza, but I know that there isn't one. Here you go. The Palestinian Centre for Peace and Democracy was founded in 1992 by a group of progressive politicians, academics, journalists and civil society activists within the Palestinian territories occupied in 1967 https://www.pcpd.ps/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted May 1 Report Share Posted May 1 2 hours ago, WestCanMan said: It's like you really want to chime in here but you have nothing worth saying... When every word is gold a handful suffice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted May 1 Report Share Posted May 1 2 hours ago, blackbird said: Socialism is stealing from those that worked and earned something to give to those who did nothing to earn it. How does that even have anything to do with the conflict in the middle east? Israel stole Palestinian land from those that worked and earned it. These people can even produce legal deeds to stolen property. Theft and dispossession is at the very root of the conflict in the ME - it's been there from the very beginning and to this day Palestinian lands are still being stolen and their rightful owners are killed for resisting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted May 1 Author Report Share Posted May 1 27 minutes ago, eyeball said: Here you go. The Palestinian Centre for Peace and Democracy was founded in 1992 by a group of progressive politicians, academics, journalists and civil society activists within the Palestinian territories occupied in 1967 https://www.pcpd.ps/ 🤣 Go ahead, click their link dummy. I'm sure that all of those "secular Gazans" will get a lot of charity work done if you give them some money. Just a quick question... Do have have any Elven blood? If so, I kno where you might be able to get a job. This is another website, so you know it's legit: If the link is broken, just go to the north pole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted May 2 Author Report Share Posted May 2 13 minutes ago, eyeball said: Israel stole Palestinian land from those that worked and earned it. These people can even produce legal deeds to stolen property. Theft and dispossession is at the very root of the conflict in the ME - it's been there from the very beginning and to this day Palestinian lands are still being stolen and their rightful owners are killed for resisting. You must be really butthurt about Pakistan then, right? On account of all that land they stole from 8M+ people...? And the hundreds of thousands of people they killed? You and the muslims are always just freaking out about those dastardly Pakistanis... At least you're not bigots, hypocrites and genocidal liars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 13 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: I'm sure that all of those "secular Gazans" will get a lot of charity work done if you give them some money. Like I said, secular progressive people just naturally make life and the world a better place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted May 2 Author Report Share Posted May 2 7 minutes ago, eyeball said: Like I said, secular progressive people just naturally make life and the world a better place. Gazans need you eyeball. Go show them the way. Teach them to be tolerant of atheists and gays. Or just click the link and give those guys money, and they'll do it. I'm sure that site is 100% legit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 13 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: You must be really butthurt about Pakistan then, right? On account of all that land they stole from 8M+ people...? And the hundreds of thousands of people they killed? You and the muslims are always just freaking out about those dastardly Pakistanis... At least you're not bigots, hypocrites and genocidal liars. Not me, that's for sure. I actually have a pretty long record around here of calling for an international truth and reconciliation process. Everyone seems to think we need to have a great big war first however so...it is what it is. Looks like it's going to break out on university campuses too. It's really quite sad seeing so many young people now carrying a bag of shit heritage that we lacked the conviction and courage to put behind us. War, disparity, climate change, dictators... Poor kids. It's not their fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted May 2 Report Share Posted May 2 56 minutes ago, eyeball said: Israel stole Palestinian land from those that worked and earned it. These people can even produce legal deeds to stolen property. Theft and dispossession is at the very root of the conflict in the ME - it's been there from the very beginning and to this day Palestinian lands are still being stolen and their rightful owners are killed for resisting. Nonsense. Tragically you don't know anything about the history of that area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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