More proof that Republicans are Putin’s useful idi*ts

[Nationalist]

On 4/21/2024 at 12:36 PM, Aristides said:

So US troops should have stayed in Iraq forever? They had already been there for ten years and it was Bush 2 who put them there.

You broke it...or the Yankees did.

[Nationalist]

On 4/21/2024 at 2:44 PM, BeaverFever said:

Right…Putin is not a threat, the Dems are a threat. Putin Puppet. 

No you’re trying to change the subject from the fact that more than half of the current Republican Party is actively aiding and abetting Putin. 

The Democrats are a very real threat. Have you seen Yale today?

Nobody is aiding Putin you silly little nonse. Go fight if you're so upset. No?

Didn't think so...

Edited April 22 by Nationalist

[impartialobserver]

31 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Russia's geopolitical situation is so different from America's that there's really no comparison.

Russia shares borders with North Korea, China, Norway, Finland, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Poland, Georgia, Mongolia, Latvia, Estonia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, and Lithuania. 

That's one troublesome/dangerous superpower plus the most batshit crazy/powerful dictator on the planet. 

 

No other country comes close to that, but the US is as far from it as possible. They're basically all alone as far as militarily powerful neighbours are concerned. They could fight a war against the rest of the continent they're on and win it by lunchtime. 

Ironically they come within a few km's of Russia, but that's as much Russia's problem as theirs. 

years ago in undergrad took a bunch of history courses.. two were on Russia. If you do a really deep dive, you find that Russia pre-Lenin was a land of mostly poor peasants farmers and ranchers. Large population, lots of resources, massive land area but not a lot of infrastructure or educated populace. Read the novels by Tolstoy, Turgenev, and Dostoyevksky.. they paint the picture. This was why the Soviet Union went bankrupt. Yes, they had military might but to acquire said military, they had to go in debt. Their economy past and present has always been heavily reliant on extraction of raw minerals and commodities. A lot of their confounding economic and political decisions can be traced to this. 

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, impartialobserver said:

Yes, they had military might but to acquire said military, they had to go in debt. 

And why did they need military might? 

Look where they are on the map... Look who's around them... 

Do you think they need to add NATO in Ukraine to their list of problems? 

Edited April 22 by WestCanMan

[impartialobserver]

Just now, WestCanMan said:

And why did they need military might? 

Look where they are on the map... Look who's around them? 

Do you think they need to add NATO in Ukraine to their list of problems? 

Their desire for military comes from being invaded multiple times in the past and being the poor, hapless "step brother" of sorts. Mongols in the 13th century, Napoleon in 1812, and then Hitler in 1941. Yes, Russia survived all of it but when it comes to the last two.. it was really a matter of attrition rather than superior might or intelligence. Had Napoleon and Hitler attempted their invasions in the spring.. the story changes greatly. The ramp up in military spending post WWII was a reaction to them losing so many lives in WWII and the western world not exactly being on the same page with them. 

If they deem all of Europe to be the enemy (which I am not sure that they do) then yes Ukraine becoming part of NATO is a strategic problem. However, their top heavy economy is the real problem. If they do not control gas/oil, natural gas, and iron markets.. their economy would crumble. 

[BeaverFever]

On 4/21/2024 at 11:47 AM, Deluge said:

Some stuff is happening, but it isn't fast enough. I'm debating getting even more involved, like maybe even running for office. 

You should buy more truth social stock to fund your revolution. How’s that investment going by the way?

[BeaverFever]

From conservative Murdoch-owned New York Post by conservative blowhard Piers Morgan

 

Moscow Marjorie’ Taylor Greene is Putin’s useful idi*t and the real betrayer of America

Piers Morgan
 

Every time mad-eyed blond blunderbuss Marjorie Taylor Greene opens her big, loud, expletive-fueled mouth, I feel like some of my brain cells spontaneously die.

Since she first appeared on the Washington scene after the 2016 election, “MTG” has proven herself to be a trash-talking, cerebrally challenged, shockingly shameless, attention-grabbing political Barbie for whom no conspiracy theory is ever bonkers enough to reject.

She claimed mass shootings like those at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut and Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, were “false flag” operations.

She suggested the 9/11 attacks were part of a government conspiracy and that no plane hit the Pentagon.

She said California wildfires might have been ignited by a space laser controlled by a Jewish cabal that included the Rothschild banking firm.

She claimed Bill and Hillary Clinton murdered political rivals — including JFK Jr. in a plane crash.

She has supported insane QAnon rabbit hole BS that top Democrats are involved in child sex-trafficking, Satan worship and cannibalism.

And so — crazily — on.

In fact, the full list of Taylor Greene’s stupefyingly cretinous comments and beliefs is so long, there literally isn’t enough room in this column to cite them all.

Yet staggeringly, none of this has stopped her rise to one of the most influential voices in the Republican Party — and one of the most dangerous.

This weekend saw the nadir of her nefarious antics as she led a campaign to stop America offering support to Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan, in urgent need of security assistance to defend themselves from the ruthless totalitarian regimes of Russia, Iran and China.

It shouldn’t have been a difficult bill for Republicans to support.

When three of America’s historical enemies are threatening freedom and democracy, the world’s No. 1 superpower has a moral duty, and obvious self-interest, to flex its financial and military might to help the targets defend themselves.

If not, frankly, why claim to be the leader of the free world?

And don’t give me all this disingenuous guff about how the US should forgo this duty to focus on the domestic chaos at the southern border.

As many conservative commentators like Ben Shapiro have said, the nation can, and should, be perfectly capable of doing both things at the same time.

Yet Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) seems intent on making America abrogate all responsibility for protecting freedom and democracy, and on doing the dictators’ dirty work for them.

Especially with regard to the Ukraine war, during which Moscow Marjorie has become Vladimir Putin’s chief “useful idi*t.”

The phrase is apt because it was another Vladimir, Soviet Union founder Lenin, who is thought to have first deployed the scornful phrase to describe naïve, easily manipulated Communist sympathizers in the West who spewed pro-Russian propaganda without comprehending the USSR’s malevolent intent.

Lenin loved what these idi*ts did on his behalf but despised them at the same time for their treacherous stupidity.

The current Vladimir will feel exactly the same way about the likes of Taylor Greene, whose Kremlin-pleasing rhetoric has made her the darling of Russian state media.

Three weeks ago, she appeared on Steve Bannon’s “War Room” podcast and parroted Putin’s nonsense that Ukraine was waging a “war against Christianity” and Russia is “protecting the religion.” She even falsely claimed the Ukrainian government was executing priests.

In fact, it’s Russia that’s been torturing, kidnapping and killing scores of Ukrainian religious leaders.

And in a House Oversight Committee hearing last week, Taylor Greene repeated more Putin claptrap that Ukraine is overrun by Nazis — only to be corrected by eminent historian Timothy Snyder, who pointed out that no far-right party has ever won more than 3% support in Ukrainian elections, whereas the Russian army “includes openly Nazi formations” and “the government itself is fascist in character, and it is carrying out a war which includes deportation of children by the tens of thousands, the open intention of destroying a state, as well as mass torture.”

Snyder concluded: “So if there is anyone who is sincerely concerned about halting fascism or racism, you would wish to halt Russia.”

Taylor Greene is sadly too dumb or delusional to understand this, but fortunately, House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) isn’t, and got the $95 billion foreign aid bill passed on Saturday in a bipartisan deal with Democrats.

He explained before allowing the crucial vote: “I believe that [Chinese President] Xi [Jinping] and Vladimir Putin and Iran really are an axis of evil. I think they are in coordination on this. I think that Vladimir Putin would continue to march through Europe. I am going to allow an opportunity for every single member of the House to vote their conscience and their will. I’m willing to take a personal risk for that, because we have to do the right thing. And history will judge us.”

He’s right, and history will judge him so.

But Taylor Greene’s predictable response was to demand he be fired.

“Mike Johnson’s speakership is over,” she declared on Fox News on Sunday. “He needs to do the right thing to resign and allow us to move forward in a controlled process. If he doesn’t do so, he will be vacated.”

And what was his crime, in her eyes?

“He has betrayed America. He has betrayed Republican voters.”

Hmmm.

A recent survey by the American Action Network, the advocacy arm of the Congressional Leadership Forum, found that 56% of “traditional Republicans” favor aid to Ukraine.

So Johnson has not betrayed Republican voters.

And as for betraying America, he’s not the one being cheered on by Russian state media and Vladimir Putin.

That’s Moscow Marjorie, the useful idi*t

.

[Nationalist]

8 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

From conservative Murdoch-owned New York Post by conservative blowhard Piers Morgan

 

 

Moscow Marjorie’ Taylor Greene is Putin’s useful idi*t and the real betrayer of America

Piers Morgan
 

Every time mad-eyed blond blunderbuss Marjorie Taylor Greene opens her big, loud, expletive-fueled mouth, I feel like some of my brain cells spontaneously die.

Since she first appeared on the Washington scene after the 2016 election, “MTG” has proven herself to be a trash-talking, cerebrally challenged, shockingly shameless, attention-grabbing political Barbie for whom no conspiracy theory is ever bonkers enough to reject.

She claimed mass shootings like those at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut and Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, were “false flag” operations.

She suggested the 9/11 attacks were part of a government conspiracy and that no plane hit the Pentagon.

She said California wildfires might have been ignited by a space laser controlled by a Jewish cabal that included the Rothschild banking firm.

She claimed Bill and Hillary Clinton murdered political rivals — including JFK Jr. in a plane crash.

She has supported insane QAnon rabbit hole BS that top Democrats are involved in child sex-trafficking, Satan worship and cannibalism.

And so — crazily — on.

In fact, the full list of Taylor Greene’s stupefyingly cretinous comments and beliefs is so long, there literally isn’t enough room in this column to cite them all.

Yet staggeringly, none of this has stopped her rise to one of the most influential voices in the Republican Party — and one of the most dangerous.

This weekend saw the nadir of her nefarious antics as she led a campaign to stop America offering support to Ukraine, Israel and Taiwan, in urgent need of security assistance to defend themselves from the ruthless totalitarian regimes of Russia, Iran and China.

It shouldn’t have been a difficult bill for Republicans to support.

When three of America’s historical enemies are threatening freedom and democracy, the world’s No. 1 superpower has a moral duty, and obvious self-interest, to flex its financial and military might to help the targets defend themselves.

If not, frankly, why claim to be the leader of the free world?

And don’t give me all this disingenuous guff about how the US should forgo this duty to focus on the domestic chaos at the southern border.

As many conservative commentators like Ben Shapiro have said, the nation can, and should, be perfectly capable of doing both things at the same time.

Yet Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) seems intent on making America abrogate all responsibility for protecting freedom and democracy, and on doing the dictators’ dirty work for them.

Especially with regard to the Ukraine war, during which Moscow Marjorie has become Vladimir Putin’s chief “useful idi*t.”

The phrase is apt because it was another Vladimir, Soviet Union founder Lenin, who is thought to have first deployed the scornful phrase to describe naïve, easily manipulated Communist sympathizers in the West who spewed pro-Russian propaganda without comprehending the USSR’s malevolent intent.

Lenin loved what these idi*ts did on his behalf but despised them at the same time for their treacherous stupidity.

The current Vladimir will feel exactly the same way about the likes of Taylor Greene, whose Kremlin-pleasing rhetoric has made her the darling of Russian state media.

Three weeks ago, she appeared on Steve Bannon’s “War Room” podcast and parroted Putin’s nonsense that Ukraine was waging a “war against Christianity” and Russia is “protecting the religion.” She even falsely claimed the Ukrainian government was executing priests.

In fact, it’s Russia that’s been torturing, kidnapping and killing scores of Ukrainian religious leaders.

And in a House Oversight Committee hearing last week, Taylor Greene repeated more Putin claptrap that Ukraine is overrun by Nazis — only to be corrected by eminent historian Timothy Snyder, who pointed out that no far-right party has ever won more than 3% support in Ukrainian elections, whereas the Russian army “includes openly Nazi formations” and “the government itself is fascist in character, and it is carrying out a war which includes deportation of children by the tens of thousands, the open intention of destroying a state, as well as mass torture.”

Snyder concluded: “So if there is anyone who is sincerely concerned about halting fascism or racism, you would wish to halt Russia.”

Taylor Greene is sadly too dumb or delusional to understand this, but fortunately, House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) isn’t, and got the $95 billion foreign aid bill passed on Saturday in a bipartisan deal with Democrats.

He explained before allowing the crucial vote: “I believe that [Chinese President] Xi [Jinping] and Vladimir Putin and Iran really are an axis of evil. I think they are in coordination on this. I think that Vladimir Putin would continue to march through Europe. I am going to allow an opportunity for every single member of the House to vote their conscience and their will. I’m willing to take a personal risk for that, because we have to do the right thing. And history will judge us.”

He’s right, and history will judge him so.

But Taylor Greene’s predictable response was to demand he be fired.

“Mike Johnson’s speakership is over,” she declared on Fox News on Sunday. “He needs to do the right thing to resign and allow us to move forward in a controlled process. If he doesn’t do so, he will be vacated.”

And what was his crime, in her eyes?

“He has betrayed America. He has betrayed Republican voters.”

Hmmm.

A recent survey by the American Action Network, the advocacy arm of the Congressional Leadership Forum, found that 56% of “traditional Republicans” favor aid to Ukraine.

So Johnson has not betrayed Republican voters.

And as for betraying America, he’s not the one being cheered on by Russian state media and Vladimir Putin.

That’s Moscow Marjorie, the useful idi*t

.

Actually...the majority of Americans do not want that 60 billion being spent on Ukraine. 

[Deluge]

10 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

You should buy more truth social stock to fund your revolution. How’s that investment going by the way?

I haven't pulled the trigger on that yet, but I'll keep you woketards posted. Sound good?  

[Aristides]

19 hours ago, Nationalist said:

You broke it...or the Yankees did.

Bush, Cheney  broke it.

[taxme]

On 4/20/2024 at 4:41 PM, BeaverFever said:

Yeah but your opinion is batshit. As I clearly stated GOP cranks are trying to help Putin conquer Ukraine by cutting off badly needed military aid. Putin gets his military aid from his allies China, Iran and North Korea, whom you seem to have no problem with, you must think they are the good guys. 

Of course my opinion will always be bat shit to you, lefty. My opinions are common sense opinions, unlike your opinions, that are always full of bat shit lies and bullshit. Putin must be doing something right because the lying and fake left wing liberal MSM, and FOX NEWS, are always attacking Putin.

When the MSM attacks or mocks anyone, then i know that it is all just more lies and bullshit coming from an unreliable liberal MSM source who are protecting the lies and bullshit that keeps coming out of the Bidumb stolen White House. Can you prove to me that Putin is the bad guy here? 

Edited April 23 by taxme

[impartialobserver]

not voting for ukraine funding does not mean that they support Putin. Maybe.. just maybe it is a sign that we want to stop spending money on someone else's battle. There is no explicit proof that Republicans are in cahoots with Putin. However, when it comes to Russia, they are simply confounding. Not really sure what they gain by having this protracted war other than pride and some new territory added to their map. 

[myata]

13 hours ago, impartialobserver said:

Not really sure what they gain by having this protracted war other than pride and some new territory added to their map. 

They would gain a whole new world: where the new Axis of tyrants will rule forever with no limits or boundaries. What laws, limits or lines? Where? "Someone else's battles"? About time to wake up.

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, myata said:

They would gain a whole new world: where the new Axis of tyrants will rule forever with no limits or boundaries. What laws, limits or lines? Where? "Someone else's battles"? About time to wake up.

And act like a scared little kitten like you?

Not a snowball's chance in Hell. 

[myata]

Putin: post-Soviet region including some NATO states

China: Taiwan and the sea areas

Iran: Israel and Middle East

If Putin is allowed to get away with this now, only one question: why not? Think now.

[taxme]

On 4/24/2024 at 3:17 PM, impartialobserver said:

not voting for ukraine funding does not mean that they support Putin. Maybe.. just maybe it is a sign that we want to stop spending money on someone else's battle. There is no explicit proof that Republicans are in cahoots with Putin. However, when it comes to Russia, they are simply confounding. Not really sure what they gain by having this protracted war other than pride and some new territory added to their map. 

The war in Ukraine is just all about the money. Bimbo Bidumb and the GOP want to keep this waste of a time feud going on between Russia and Ukraine because somebody in the corrupt government of Ukraine is raking in billions to line their own corrupt pockets. If all the money shipped to Ukraine to help fight Putin was to go and fight Putin, well by now, the war should be over and Ukraine wins. The war is being kept going to try and push Putin into doing something that will then involve and get America into the feud with Russia. Not a bright idea indeed. 

This appears to be a war to kill Ukrainian's at any cost, while some of the their Marxist Zionist WEF globalist leaders in Ukraine hides most of the money received from America and ends up in some bank accounts somewhere in the world, and to buy expensive realty somewhere on earth. Apparently, America is getting some kind of a kickback back from the corrupt Ukrainian government. 

America nor the Ukrainian governments give a shit about Ukraine or the Ukrainian people. It's always just about the money and nothing more. Ukrainians should be thankful that Putin is fighting for them and taking the corrupt Ukrainian regime  government on. Just my opinion of course. 😇