User Posted November 4 Report Posted November 4 1 minute ago, Nationalist said: They fight their own battles. OK, seriously, why you have to play these dumb dishonest games. And what happens when Ukraine is left to fight Russia on their own? Russia will win. Your notion of "peace" is that Russia wins. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Nationalist Posted November 4 Report Posted November 4 3 minutes ago, User said: OK, seriously, why you have to play these dumb dishonest games. And what happens when Ukraine is left to fight Russia on their own? Russia will win. Your notion of "peace" is that Russia wins. According to @DUI_Offender, 700,000 Russians have been neutralized. Man, Ukraine must be kicking Russia's ass. My notion of peace...is a lack of war. I don't particularly care how peace is reached because I don't care who "wins". But I also dislike stoopid statements by twits who don't realize the "news" they're following is and makes a habit of lying to them daily about almost everything they report. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
DUI_Offender Posted November 4 Report Posted November 4 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Nationalist said: According to @DUI_Offender, 700,000 Russians have been neutralized. Man, Ukraine must be kicking Russia's ass. My notion of peace...is a lack of war. I don't particularly care how peace is reached because I don't care who "wins". But I also dislike stoopid statements by twits who don't realize the "news" they're following is and makes a habit of lying to them daily about almost everything they report. Also on the news; 20,000 Ukrainian children have been kidnapped, and brought to Russia, to be raised by Russian families. Your moral compass is out of whack. It is like you came from a 1930s time machine, defending Hitler, and doing your best to urge North America to ignore the Nazi invasions of Europe. Nationalist does not have the intelligence to realise that it was RUSSIA who invaded the Ukraine. Not NATO This was not a response to Ukrainian aggression. Only Russia has the ability to bring peace, by leaving the internationally recognised borders of Ukraine. Edited November 4 by DUI_Offender Quote
Nationalist Posted November 4 Report Posted November 4 21 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: Also on the news; 20,000 Ukrainian children have been kidnapped, and brought to Russia, to be raised by Russian families. Your moral compass is out of whack. It is like you came from a 1930s time machine, defending Hitler, and doing your best to urge North America to ignore the Nazi invasions of Europe. Nationalist does not have the intelligence to realise that it was RUSSIA who invaded the Ukraine. Not NATO This was not a response to Ukrainian aggression. Only Russia has the ability to bring peace, by leaving the internationally recognised borders of Ukraine. Oh I'm so ashamed. He called me a NAZI Sympathizer. Oh whatever will I do? Lol...dumb fckin' Tweenkie. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
DUI_Offender Posted November 4 Report Posted November 4 4 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Oh I'm so ashamed. He called me a NAZI Sympathizer. Oh whatever will I do? Lol...dumb fckin' Tweenkie. What would your family thing of one of their members justifying the invasion and war crimes of a more powerful country against a weaker one? Did you cheer on the schoolyard bully when you were a child? Quote
Nationalist Posted November 4 Report Posted November 4 15 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: What would your family thing of one of their members justifying the invasion and war crimes of a more powerful country against a weaker one? Did you cheer on the schoolyard bully when you were a child? Tweenkie-Poo I WAS one of the school yard bullies...who stole your lunch and picked on you nerds at every opportunity. Now...you wanna talk facts or just run to the principal? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
DUI_Offender Posted November 4 Report Posted November 4 15 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Tweenkie-Poo I WAS one of the school yard bullies... I would not be surprised.... 1 Quote
User Posted November 5 Report Posted November 5 15 hours ago, Nationalist said: According to @DUI_Offender, 700,000 Russians have been neutralized. Man, Ukraine must be kicking Russia's ass. My notion of peace...is a lack of war. I don't particularly care how peace is reached because I don't care who "wins". But I also dislike stoopid statements by twits who don't realize the "news" they're following is and makes a habit of lying to them daily about almost everything they report. Here you go again... you don't engage directly with what I say or ask. You play these dishonest games. Yeah, Ukraine has caused a lot of Russian casualties WITH the help from NATO you oppose. You say you want peace, with a lack of war, but you justify Russian invasion and push Russian propaganda to lie about their war in the Donbas before the full scale invasion. You do care who wins, you want Russia to win. If you care about lies, then why do you continue to engage in them and push them? 1 Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
DUI_Offender Posted November 5 Report Posted November 5 8 hours ago, User said: Here you go again... you don't engage directly with what I say or ask. You play these dishonest games. Yeah, Ukraine has caused a lot of Russian casualties WITH the help from NATO you oppose. You say you want peace, with a lack of war, but you justify Russian invasion and push Russian propaganda to lie about their war in the Donbas before the full scale invasion. You do care who wins, you want Russia to win. If you care about lies, then why do you continue to engage in them and push them? Nationalist has wanted Russia to win, from day 1. His "I want peace" BS, is hysterical. 1 Quote
Videospirit Posted November 6 Report Posted November 6 On 11/4/2024 at 6:40 PM, Nationalist said: Tweenkie-Poo I WAS one of the school yard bullies...who stole your lunch and picked on you nerds at every opportunity. Now...you wanna talk facts or just run to the principal? A shame we didn't go to the same school. Trash who were so insecure they bullied other people were so fun to bully back. Things got real peaceful after they realized they couldn't get away with that shit in public. Sounds like nobody was around to school your fool ass so you turned out as pathetic as you have. 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted November 6 Report Posted November 6 44 minutes ago, Videospirit said: A shame we didn't go to the same school. Trash who were so insecure they bullied other people were so fun to bully back. Things got real peaceful after they realized they couldn't get away with that shit in public. Sounds like nobody was around to school your fool ass so you turned out as pathetic as you have. Lol...another nerd. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
User Posted November 6 Report Posted November 6 11 hours ago, Videospirit said: A shame we didn't go to the same school. Trash who were so insecure they bullied other people were so fun to bully back. Things got real peaceful after they realized they couldn't get away with that shit in public. Sounds like nobody was around to school your fool ass so you turned out as pathetic as you have. Bullies are cowards. It is comical he brags about being one. Bullies pick on people they think they can get away with picking on. They run away once anyone stands up to them or threatens them enough to hurt them back. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Aristides Posted November 6 Report Posted November 6 Now that Trump is in power, Ukraine is screwed unless the rest of NATO ups its game. Netanyahu will also be given a free reign. Arab Americans who voted for Trump because they were unhappy with Biden just shot themselves in the foot. 1 Quote
Videospirit Posted November 6 Report Posted November 6 30 minutes ago, Aristides said: Now that Trump is in power, Ukraine is screwed unless the rest of NATO ups its game. Netanyahu will also be given a free reign. Arab Americans who voted for Trump because they were unhappy with Biden just shot themselves in the foot. The Israel situation has very little to do with Arab Americans. I mean, any kind of minority is still a fool for voting for a man who hates them and encourages his followers to hate them, but the Israel situation is barely relevant at all. Arab Americans who hope to emigrate to Palestine if it ever achieves peace or have family living there are pretty screwed, but that's a tiny minority of Arab Americans. Quote
Aristides Posted November 6 Report Posted November 6 2 hours ago, Videospirit said: The Israel situation has very little to do with Arab Americans. I mean, any kind of minority is still a fool for voting for a man who hates them and encourages his followers to hate them, but the Israel situation is barely relevant at all. Arab Americans who hope to emigrate to Palestine if it ever achieves peace or have family living there are pretty screwed, but that's a tiny minority of Arab Americans. Nothing to do with wanting to immigrate to Palestine. How many Sikh Americans who support Khalistan independence want to live there? How many Irish Americans who supported the IRA want to move to Ireland? How many Cuban Americans would move back if the present government was replaced? Quote
Videospirit Posted November 7 Report Posted November 7 2 hours ago, Aristides said: Nothing to do with wanting to immigrate to Palestine. How many Sikh Americans who support Khalistan independence want to live there? How many Irish Americans who supported the IRA want to move to Ireland? How many Cuban Americans would move back if the present government was replaced? The vast majority of voters voting for Trump over Biden because of Israel are white though, it's got nothing to do with race. Quote
athos Posted November 7 Report Posted November 7 On 11/5/2024 at 9:55 AM, DUI_Offender said: Also on the news; 20,000 Ukrainian children have been kidnapped, and brought to Russia, to be raised by Russian families. Your moral compass is out of whack. It is like you came from a 1930s time machine, defending Hitler, and doing your best to urge North America to ignore the Nazi invasions of Europe. Nationalist does not have the intelligence to realise that it was RUSSIA who invaded the Ukraine. Not NATO This was not a response to Ukrainian aggression. Only Russia has the ability to bring peace, by leaving the internationally recognised borders of Ukraine. You are one of Ukro Nazi Bots who lives in Canada. Russia didn't invade anyone Russia only liberates Own territory from Bandera Nazis. 😀 Quote
athos Posted November 7 Report Posted November 7 On 11/5/2024 at 10:23 AM, DUI_Offender said: What would your family thing of one of their members justifying the invasion and war crimes of a more powerful country against a weaker one? Did you cheer on the schoolyard bully when you were a child? Dear Nazi Banderas Russia will crush you and your Khazarian fake president. Quote
athos Posted November 7 Report Posted November 7 North Korean commando spotted preparing to attack Ukraine Quote
Nationalist Posted November 7 Report Posted November 7 20 hours ago, User said: Bullies are cowards. It is comical he brags about being one. Bullies pick on people they think they can get away with picking on. They run away once anyone stands up to them or threatens them enough to hurt them back. Yes and by Jr. High I'd matured enough to know the error of my ways. None of which negates the "nerd factor". Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Videospirit Posted November 8 Report Posted November 8 11 hours ago, Nationalist said: Yes and by Jr. High I'd matured enough to know the error of my ways. None of which negates the "nerd factor". "matured enough to know the error of my ways" still uses the term "nerd factor" Excuse me while I get my eyes back under control after the epic eye roll you just induced. Anyway for something actually on topic since the above is not enough to justify a post. https://kyivindependent.com/trump-ukraine-plan-wsj/ Main points of the "peace plan" that isn't actually a peace plan, merely a ceasefire. Threaten Ukraine to cut off all US aid if it doesn't agree to the US plan, Threaten Russia to massively escalate the conflict if it doesn't agree to the US plan. If you want to enforce a ceasefire rather than achieve peace this isn't the worst way to go about it to start. It's only delaying the inevitable resumption of hostilities, but Ukraine could probably benefit from some time to resupply to be honest. The actual details are kind of up in the air since not even today's Trump can honestly tell you what tomorrow's Trump will do, but Ukraine likely isn't going to gain a single thing in reparation for all the losses they've unjustly suffered at the hands of Russia. The "Demilitarized" zone Trump wants to create along Ukraine's border with Russia will likely be carved out of territory currently controlled by Ukraine as well. The most concerning details are potentially denying Ukraine NATO membership for as long as 20 years. Ukraine needs more security guarantees than that if they don't want Russia to unilaterally resume this conflict whenever they want. All in all it could be a lot worse, but Trump's USA is not shaping up to be a champion of global security. Although there is a slight chance Trump tries something like this, Putin tells him "No" and Trump gets the US directly involved in Ukraine and it actually works out for the world. It's Dangerous times we live in though. Quote
DUI_Offender Posted November 8 Report Posted November 8 On 11/6/2024 at 2:16 PM, Videospirit said: The Israel situation has very little to do with Arab Americans. I mean, any kind of minority is still a fool for voting for a man who hates them and encourages his followers to hate them, but the Israel situation is barely relevant at all. Actually, this is incorrect. The majority of Muslim Americans voted against Harris, due to her and Biden's mishandling of the Palestinian situation. Of course, voting for Trump, is like leaving the frying pan, into the fire. 14 hours ago, Nationalist said: Yes and by Jr. High I'd matured enough to know the error of my ways. None of which negates the "nerd factor". You are not being honest, as per usual. You have the maturity of a 14 year old boy. 1 Quote
Aristides Posted November 8 Report Posted November 8 (edited) Without solid security guarantees that will be enforced, there is no point in Ukraine to agreeing to anything because only a m*ron would expect Putin to respect them. The Ukrainians aren't id*ots, considering the previous "guarantees" were fairy tales. Edited November 8 by Aristides 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted November 8 Report Posted November 8 13 hours ago, Videospirit said: "matured enough to know the error of my ways" still uses the term "nerd factor" Excuse me while I get my eyes back under control after the epic eye roll you just induced. Anyway for something actually on topic since the above is not enough to justify a post. https://kyivindependent.com/trump-ukraine-plan-wsj/ Main points of the "peace plan" that isn't actually a peace plan, merely a ceasefire. Threaten Ukraine to cut off all US aid if it doesn't agree to the US plan, Threaten Russia to massively escalate the conflict if it doesn't agree to the US plan. If you want to enforce a ceasefire rather than achieve peace this isn't the worst way to go about it to start. It's only delaying the inevitable resumption of hostilities, but Ukraine could probably benefit from some time to resupply to be honest. The actual details are kind of up in the air since not even today's Trump can honestly tell you what tomorrow's Trump will do, but Ukraine likely isn't going to gain a single thing in reparation for all the losses they've unjustly suffered at the hands of Russia. The "Demilitarized" zone Trump wants to create along Ukraine's border with Russia will likely be carved out of territory currently controlled by Ukraine as well. The most concerning details are potentially denying Ukraine NATO membership for as long as 20 years. Ukraine needs more security guarantees than that if they don't want Russia to unilaterally resume this conflict whenever they want. All in all it could be a lot worse, but Trump's USA is not shaping up to be a champion of global security. Although there is a slight chance Trump tries something like this, Putin tells him "No" and Trump gets the US directly involved in Ukraine and it actually works out for the world. It's Dangerous times we live in though. You sure do object to childhood psychology. Did I pick on you? If I did, sorry. I was young and unbridled. Meh... There is a chance of Putin being uncooperative, yes. But he's been saying all along that Russia has been open to negotiations. Let's see what happens...shall we? At least it's better than the alternative. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
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