User Posted January 19 Report Posted January 19 4 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Who said that it was Russia killing them? All facts and evidence. 4 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Wrong. The killing in the Donbas didn't start in 2022. Where did you even hear that? I don't think that even CNN is saying that. I did not say the killing in the Donbas started in 2022. Are there any other straw men you want to fabricate? 4 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Yeah, it's been a central theme of every westerner's commentary on this war. Am I making this argument? I have no interest in arguing against your "paraphrasing" of what others are arguing. 4 hours ago, WestCanMan said: You just said: "Russia is the one killing these people. If Russia stops their war of aggression, people stop dying." There's obviously no truth to any of that. The first sentence is stupid both on its own, and in conjunction with the second sentence. The second sentence is framed around a snuck premise, which is also false. I fully understand your opinions about this war, but don't mistake them for facts. No truth to Russia waging a war and killing people right now? Holy crap dude, what next, you going to deny that humans breath air? If Russia is not killing people right now, what are we even here talking about. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
NAME REMOVED Posted January 19 Report Posted January 19 (edited) 8 hours ago, WestCanMan said: There's obviously no truth to any of that. Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014, and has been waging war on Ukraine for the past decade. If Russia withdrew it's forces from Ukrainian land, the war would be over. It's really that simple. Edited January 19 by DUI_Offender 1 Quote
Moonbox Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 On 1/18/2025 at 11:56 PM, DUI_Offender said: Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014, and has been waging war on Ukraine for the past decade. If Russia withdrew it's forces from Ukrainian land, the war would be over. It's really that simple. The only thing more simple is Wastecanman's reasoning skills. I don't have many people on ignore on this forum, but he was the first - the harbinger of the clown parade that invaded this forum over the last decade. 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
herbie Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 What this war did proves is that Russia's a paper tiger. Ukraine held them with supplies only, and the New Chamberland in Washington would be perfectly happy to grow fat supplying arms and no troops like the USA did from 1939-1941 Trump can pull out of NATO if he wants, Europe doesn't need it. All their troops and the threat of a couple hundred French & British nukes pretty much means a Mexican standoff. 1 Quote
Moonbox Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 8 hours ago, herbie said: What this war did proves is that Russia's a paper tiger. Not just a paper-tiger - a complete shit hole led by criminal thugs and populated by servile donkey-people. The incompetence of Russian military leadership is only matched by the dispirited futility of the Russian thrall-soldier. We haven't seen military ineptitude like this since Gadhafi tried to invade Chad, with his soviet tanks beaten off by pickup trucks. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
herbie Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 (edited) 9 hours ago, Moonbox said: Not just a paper-tiger - a complete shit hole led by criminal thugs and populated by servile donkey-people. Just like the Fanta Fascist desires, a kleptocracy of oligarchs. Billioniares backed by criminals. Edited January 23 by herbie Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 lol...Putin will completely disregard this message. "end the war in Ukraine" my azz. Quote
Radiorum Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 3 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: Putin will completely disregard this message. Trump is performing for his base. It is what he does best. Quote
Nationalist Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 3 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: lol...Putin will completely disregard this message. "end the war in Ukraine" my azz. ROFLMAO! Putin has always been willing to negotiate peace. Trump has promised the world that he will deliver peace. I understand Zelinsky has now come out and said he needs US troops on the front line. LOL...anyone wanna bet a bottle o' scotch Zeleinsky ain'-a-gonna get US troops on the front lines? He might wanna now consider tucking his tail between his legs and slipping out the back door. It appears the US gravy train has come to its final destination and it doesn't look good for him. Oh well. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
User Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 8 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: lol...Putin will completely disregard this message. "end the war in Ukraine" my azz. So, you don't want Trump to do anything now to put pressure on Russia to stop this war? 4 hours ago, Radiorum said: Trump is performing for his base. It is what he does best. It is simply amazing how political you guys are. You don't care about stopping this war as much as you care about hating Trump. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Radiorum Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 41 minutes ago, User said: It is simply amazing how political you guys are. You don't care about stopping this war as much as you care about hating Trump. There are different things influencing the war. Trump ain't one of them. Quote
User Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 3 minutes ago, Radiorum said: There are different things influencing the war. Trump ain't one of them. Interesting. So, if the US stops all support for Ukraine tomorrow, you don't think that has any influence on the war? If Trump enacts more sanctions on Russia and supports Ukraine more, that doesn't have any influence on the war? Yet again, your hatred of Trump outweighs any common sense or reason here. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Radiorum Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 4 minutes ago, User said: Interesting. So, if the US stops all support for Ukraine tomorrow, you don't think that has any influence on the war? If Trump enacts more sanctions on Russia and supports Ukraine more, that doesn't have any influence on the war? These are valid points. I was thinking of Trump's influence on Putin. Yes, let's hope Trump does not abandon the US role of the world leader of democracy and sovereignty. 1 Quote
WestCanMan Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 (edited) 5 hours ago, Nationalist said: ROFLMAO! Putin has always been willing to negotiate peace. Trump has promised the world that he will deliver peace. I understand Zelinsky has now come out and said he needs US troops on the front line. LOL...anyone wanna bet a bottle o' scotch Zeleinsky ain'-a-gonna get US troops on the front lines? He might wanna now consider tucking his tail between his legs and slipping out the back door. It appears the US gravy train has come to its final destination and it doesn't look good for him. Bingo. Trump isn't sending American troops to die in a war that he said never should have started. Leftards and Nazis fail to understand that Trump values the lives of Americans, the unborn, Israeli and US hostages, US soldiers, Syrians, etc. It's a common theme in everything he says on the campaign trail and everything that he does as president, and it's a 180° shift in policy from the outgoing administration. Edited January 23 by WestCanMan 1 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
User Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 50 minutes ago, Radiorum said: These are valid points. I was thinking of Trump's influence on Putin. Yes, let's hope Trump does not abandon the US role of the world leader of democracy and sovereignty. Still not much better... Putin did not invade on Trumps watch and Trump threatened him not to, as well as approved more military aid to Ukraine at the time. Clearly Trump had some influence on Putin. Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
User Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 36 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Bingo. LOL, another one of your predictions about to go down in flames... "If Trump gets elected then the Russia-Ukraine war will be over within a week of his inauguration, if not sooner. " Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Radiorum Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 12 minutes ago, User said: Putin did not invade on Trumps watch and Trump threatened him not to I know Trump has convinced you he influenced Putin, but it is just not true. Putin waiting until 2022 had nothing to do with Trump. It had to do with Putin’s strategy of trying to become more a part of Europe and in that way splitting the West between Europe and the US. But Putin’s hope was disappointed, and he snapped in 2022, convinced that no Western governments could be trusted. Quote
User Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 7 minutes ago, Radiorum said: I know Trump has convinced you he influenced Putin, but it is just not true. Trump did not convince me of anything; these are simple facts. Fact: Trump threatened Putin Fact: Trump provided more lethal aid to Ukraine Fact: Putin did not invade on Trumps watch 1 Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Radiorum Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 7 minutes ago, User said: Fact: Trump threatened Putin Fact: Trump provided more lethal aid to Ukraine Fact: Putin did not invade on Trumps watch Your ignorance of Putin could fill a book. Quote
User Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 7 minutes ago, Radiorum said: Your ignorance of Putin could fill a book. I list 3 facts, you: DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR yOuR iGnOrAnCe DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Quote LOL, when people have to tell you they are ignoring you... From Robosmith: "IGNORE AWARDED DUE TO WORTHLESS POSTS. BYE."
Nationalist Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 58 minutes ago, Radiorum said: I know Trump has convinced you he influenced Putin, but it is just not true. Putin waiting until 2022 had nothing to do with Trump. It had to do with Putin’s strategy of trying to become more a part of Europe and in that way splitting the West between Europe and the US. But Putin’s hope was disappointed, and he snapped in 2022, convinced that no Western governments could be trusted. This is just bloody silly. Where the Hell do you get such silly notions? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Radiorum Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 Just now, Nationalist said: Where the Hell do you get such silly notions? I heard things. Quote
Nationalist Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 4 minutes ago, Radiorum said: I heard things. You heard wrong. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Radiorum Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 9 minutes ago, Nationalist said: You heard wrong. Some may think that the US is the whole entire world, but Putin's sights were on the EU. In 2012 he said: “Russia is an inseparable, organic part of Greater Europe, of the wider European civilisation. Our citizens feel themselves to be Europeans.” But that was not to pass. Europe rebuffed him. To understand Putin's point of view, you may wish to read his address at the 2022 Valdai International Discussion Club meeting 1 Quote
WestCanMan Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 1 hour ago, User said: LOL, another one of your predictions about to go down in flames... "If Trump gets elected then the Russia-Ukraine war will be over within a week of his inauguration, if not sooner. " Grow up, dummy. The war is into its 1,064th day now, and for all 1,000 days before Trump became the prez-elect, the war was carrying as usual, and even escalating seriously in Oct 2024, while at no point was there ever talk of peace coming from the Biden WH. Now the possibility of peace is increasingly real on a day-by-day basis. Trump said publicly that he's willing to meet with Putin "immediately". You can take a victory lap if the war doesn't end for 4 more days. 1 1 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
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