Biden Impeachment - Bad for the GOP

[WestCanMan]

 

We all know what went down with the Bidens & influence peddling, and their ability to slither free of this mess seems less and less likely all the time. 

But who does it help if Biden is busted?

Right now the DNC is on a path to run that decaying, hateful denizen of the underworld in the next election, virtually guaranteeing a GOP win. The impeachment inquiry is basically Joe's main obstacle. Should they really be investigating this too closely?

This is reminiscent of when the allies theoretically decided not to assassinate Hitler because they were worried that a more capable strategist would take his place. 

If Biden was in charge of the Nazi war machine in 1941 would anyone here recommend replacing him with a different leader? Hell no. The chance of an upgrade is about 99%, plus or minus 1/-1 respectively.

At first I thought that Joe's talk about running again was bluster, meant to lend the impression that Joe still felt energetic and capable, but it's odd to see him rounding the corner into 2024 with the nomination still under his belt. 

How's this gonna play out? Do the Dems really think he's a guy who could be president until 2028? Do they think that he could beat Napoleon Dynamite in an election? Are they really that stupid? Do they have a plan to have him step aside and then do a really quick "Let's all get behind this new nominee" thing? 

IMO the Dem nominee is not going to be Biden, it will be the all-too smarmy Mr Newsom. I just don't know if they can arrive at that smoothly now.

What do you think happens? 

 

[Legato]

Newsom will meet with Joe and offer him an ice cream cone. As Joe reaches for it Newsom will drop it, Joe will step on it and fall flat on his back. Poor Joe will need a long hospitalisation stay and will have to step out of the race.

Newsom will feign shock and horror and then offer to step in and take Joe's place as the Presidential nominee.

Those present could hear Kamala cackling in the background.

[Nationalist]

Unless Biden dies, it's already too late to register for primaries.

[WestCanMan]

34 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Unless Biden dies, it's already too late to register for primaries.

Which looks bad on the surface, but it also gives the DNC a golden opportunity to run a less legitimate process in an emergency, once it's determined that Joe "definitely can't run" in 2024. 

Remember how much the Dems' cheating in their own primary in 2016 cost the country?

They hatched their plan to help Hillary steal from the Bern, they got their friends at CNN to give the debate questions to her, and when emails were leaked which exposed all their election cheating, the Dems switched the focus from "We're cheaters, uhhhh" to "The only reason anyone even knows that we're cheaters is because Trump asked Russians to hack our server!" Dems never had to talk about their own cheating again after that point. 

Now, if they want to, they might be able to find a way to slide Newsom into the nomination without giving a legitimate shot to Bernie or any other less desirable candidates. No real 'cheating' req'd, just the creation of a sham process, like if there were elections held during covid or something. The Dems were born for this job.

And how hard would it be to get a Dr's note saying "Joe can't come to the election today"? 

• any legitimate Dr could say as much without even meeting with him personally
• every single conservative in NA already says it, and
• every single leftist in NA already knows it, they just deny it because they are all liars. If they're told to say that he's incapable, they'll all agree, instantly. It's just as simple as that. 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Unless Biden dies,

Again you mean?  I'm pretty sure he passed away 7 years ago

[WestCanMan]

33 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Again you mean?  I'm pretty sure he passed away 7 years ago

Weekend at Biden's. 

[herbie]

If Biden is to die, let it be a few months after being re-elected.
It will be so enjoyable watching you guys have complete shit hemorrhages over a woman President.

She made pads and plugs tax free! We're all gonna die! There goes a new aircraft carrier! Why should "I"  pay?

[CdnFox]

13 minutes ago, herbie said:

If Biden is to die, let it be a few months after being re-elected.
It will be so enjoyable watching you guys have complete shit hemorrhages over a woman President.

She made pads and plugs tax free! We're all gonna die! There goes a new aircraft carrier! Why should "I"  pay?

LOL - you realize that the more likely scenario is that you'll be pulling your hair , gouging your eyes out and wailing to the heavens as trump wins and launches numerous legal actions against joe and kamala 

[herbie]

Why? To confirm a suspicion that the American public could possibly be fooled twice?
nah, I preferred the USA as the world leader, not sitting in the corner with a dunce hat on.

[CdnFox]

20 minutes ago, herbie said:

Why? To confirm a suspicion that the American public could possibly be fooled twice?
 

To confim that once again the dems have become SOOO bad.... they make someone like trump look good

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nah, I preferred the USA as the world leader, not sitting in the corner with a dunce hat on.

So you'll be voting against biden too    vote early - he can only sit in the corner so long before he slumps over  

[Hodad]

7 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

 

We all know what went down with the Bidens & influence peddling, and their ability to slither free of this mess seems less and less likely all the time. 

 

Yes, you all know what went down. You're just keeping the evidence safe in the super secret vault alongside the evidence of widespread election fraud in 2020 and the address of JFK's weekly poker game with Elvis and D.B. Cooper.?

[WestCanMan]

17 hours ago, herbie said:

If Biden is to die, let it be a few months after being re-elected.
It will be so enjoyable watching you guys have complete shit hemorrhages over a woman President.

She made pads and plugs tax free! We're all gonna die! There goes a new aircraft carrier! Why should "I"  pay?

It seems like a great time to elect a skeleton, only to be replaced by a low IQ fool. 

[Rebound]

20 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

 

We all know what went down with the Bidens & influence peddling, and their ability to slither free of this mess seems less and less likely all the time. 

But who does it help if Biden is busted?

Right now the DNC is on a path to run that decaying, hateful denizen of the underworld in the next election, virtually guaranteeing a GOP win. The impeachment inquiry is basically Joe's main obstacle. Should they really be investigating this too closely?

This is reminiscent of when the allies theoretically decided not to assassinate Hitler because they were worried that a more capable strategist would take his place. 

If Biden was in charge of the Nazi war machine in 1941 would anyone here recommend replacing him with a different leader? Hell no. The chance of an upgrade is about 99%, plus or minus 1/-1 respectively.

At first I thought that Joe's talk about running again was bluster, meant to lend the impression that Joe still felt energetic and capable, but it's odd to see him rounding the corner into 2024 with the nomination still under his belt. 

How's this gonna play out? Do the Dems really think he's a guy who could be president until 2028? Do they think that he could beat Napoleon Dynamite in an election? Are they really that stupid? Do they have a plan to have him step aside and then do a really quick "Let's all get behind this new nominee" thing? 

IMO the Dem nominee is not going to be Biden, it will be the all-too smarmy Mr Newsom. I just don't know if they can arrive at that smoothly now.

What do you think happens? 

 

I think the fake news you’re reading has you fooled into believing that there’s any kind of evidence which can indict Joe Biden. There is utterly none. There isn’t even probable cause. The House GOP will not impeach Biden unless there is compelling, actual evidence. Yes, many Republicans will vote to impeach Biden for merely eating a ham sandwich, but not all of them. 

Taking that another step, in the extremely unlikely event that the House does impeach Biden, unless some heretofore unknown evidence is produced, based on what we know today, there is a zero percent chance that the Senate will convict. Of course new evidence could make a difference, but that’s true of everything, excepting that there are Trump supporters who literally don’t even care that the man said flat out he would become dictator of the US on Day One of his Presidency. 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

I think the fake news you’re reading has you fooled into believing that there’s any kind of evidence which can indict Joe Biden. There is utterly none.

He already pled guilty. There's evidence

[WestCanMan]

12 hours ago, Hodad said:

Yes, you all know what went down. You're just keeping the evidence safe in the super secret vault alongside the evidence of widespread election fraud in 2020 and the address of JFK's weekly poker game with Elvis and D.B. Cooper.?

Wise up Hodad.

1. There's a reason that Biden yelled lies whenever he was asked if he was aware of Hunter's overseas business, right?  Do you think he was actually so clueless that he didn't know about any of it? 
2. There's a reason that Biden yelled lies whenever he was asked if he was in contact with Hunter's business associates, right?
3. There's a reason that Biden used an email alias whenever he communicated with Hunter's business associates, right?
4. Is it a total coincidence that Hunter got hired for $80k/mo by a Ukrainian company that was being investigated for corruption, just a few weeks after his VPOTUS dad visited Ukraine to start "clearing up corruption"?

In order for you to believe that the Bidens aren't guilty of what they're being accused of you have to believe that:

• Joe really didn't know any of Hunter's associates,
• Hunter's hiring was an out-of this-world coincidence (80 large countries on earth, 50M businesses, and he coincidentally got hired right at ground zero of Joe's investigation...), 
• Joe had some great, unknown reason for using an email alias to communicate with Hunter's business associates (whom he angrily denied knowledge of)
• It was just a huge coincidence that Shokin was fired right after winning court orders against Zlochevsky, and his successor (whom Biden appointed himself) eventually let Zlochevsky off the hook despite his very best efforts ?

 

Go fish, simpleton. 

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

I think the fake news you’re reading has you fooled into believing that there’s any kind of evidence which can indict Joe Biden. There is utterly none. There isn’t even probable cause.

No time for your stupidity, sorry. 

[Rebound]

46 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Wise up Hodad.

1. There's a reason that Biden yelled lies whenever he was asked if he was aware of Hunter's overseas business, right?  Do you think he was actually so clueless that he didn't know about any of it? 
2. There's a reason that Biden yelled lies whenever he was asked if he was in contact with Hunter's business associates, right?
3. There's a reason that Biden used an email alias whenever he communicated with Hunter's business associates, right?
4. Is it a total coincidence that Hunter got hired for $80k/mo by a Ukrainian company that was being investigated for corruption, just a few weeks after his VPOTUS dad visited Ukraine to start "clearing up corruption"?

In order for you to believe that the Bidens aren't guilty of what they're being accused of you have to believe that:

• Joe really didn't know any of Hunter's associates,
• Hunter's hiring was an out-of this-world coincidence (80 large countries on earth, 50M businesses, and he coincidentally got hired right at ground zero of Joe's investigation...), 
• Joe had some great, unknown reason for using an email alias to communicate with Hunter's business associates (whom he angrily denied knowledge of)
• It was just a huge coincidence that Shokin was fired right after winning court orders against Zlochevsky, and his successor (whom Biden appointed himself) eventually let Zlochevsky off the hook despite his very best efforts ?

 

Go fish, simpleton. 

No time for your stupidity, sorry. 

Look, dum dum, no matter how many times it’s explained, you refuse to accept fact. Everybody wanted the Ukrainian prosecutor fired.  The entire European Union, the World Bank, the IMF and the Obama Administration.  
 

Nobody wanted that prosecutor to remain except for the prosecutor. 

[Hodad]

52 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Wise up Hodad.

1. There's a reason that Biden yelled lies whenever he was asked if he was aware of Hunter's overseas business, right?  Do you think he was actually so clueless that he didn't know about any of it? 
2. There's a reason that Biden yelled lies whenever he was asked if he was in contact with Hunter's business associates, right?
3. There's a reason that Biden used an email alias whenever he communicated with Hunter's business associates, right?
4. Is it a total coincidence that Hunter got hired for $80k/mo by a Ukrainian company that was being investigated for corruption, just a few weeks after his VPOTUS dad visited Ukraine to start "clearing up corruption"?

In order for you to believe that the Bidens aren't guilty of what they're being accused of you have to believe that:

• Joe really didn't know any of Hunter's associates,
• Hunter's hiring was an out-of this-world coincidence (80 large countries on earth, 50M businesses, and he coincidentally got hired right at ground zero of Joe's investigation...), 
• Joe had some great, unknown reason for using an email alias to communicate with Hunter's business associates (whom he angrily denied knowledge of)
• It was just a huge coincidence that Shokin was fired right after winning court orders against Zlochevsky, and his successor (whom Biden appointed himself) eventually let Zlochevsky off the hook despite his very best efforts ?

 

Go fish, simpleton. 

No time for your stupidity, sorry. 

Jeebus, you're still climbing to a conspiracy theory that never made sense and was been thoroughly debunked years ago. And debunked on this forum multiple times, spoon feeding you. You're like one of the Q fools still waiting in Dallas for JFK to show up. 

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Wise up Hodad.

1. There's a reason that Biden yelled lies whenever he was asked if he was aware of Hunter's overseas business, right?  Do you think he was actually so clueless that he didn't know about any of it? 
2. There's a reason that Biden yelled lies whenever he was asked if he was in contact with Hunter's business associates, right?
3. There's a reason that Biden used an email alias whenever he communicated with Hunter's business associates, right?
4. Is it a total coincidence that Hunter got hired for $80k/mo by a Ukrainian company that was being investigated for corruption, just a few weeks after his VPOTUS dad visited Ukraine to start "clearing up corruption"?

In order for you to believe that the Bidens aren't guilty of what they're being accused of you have to believe that:

• Joe really didn't know any of Hunter's associates,
• Hunter's hiring was an out-of this-world coincidence (80 large countries on earth, 50M businesses, and he coincidentally got hired right at ground zero of Joe's investigation...), 
• Joe had some great, unknown reason for using an email alias to communicate with Hunter's business associates (whom he angrily denied knowledge of)
• It was just a huge coincidence that Shokin was fired right after winning court orders against Zlochevsky, and his successor (whom Biden appointed himself) eventually let Zlochevsky off the hook despite his very best efforts ?

 

Go fish, simpleton. 

No time for your stupidity, sorry. 

You're the simpleton who believes any of your gish gallop is ILLEGAL. They're NOT.

Huge difference between those and ACTUAL selling of political favors BY JOE. Duh

[WestCanMan]

33 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Look, dum dum, no matter how many times it’s explained, you refuse to accept fact. Everybody wanted the Ukrainian prosecutor fired.  The entire European Union, the World Bank, the IMF and the Obama Administration.  
 

Nobody wanted that prosecutor to remain except for the prosecutor. 

Look, dum dum, no matter how many times I explain this to you, you refuse to understand that what you said is just a quote. It's just what someone quoted 'everyone' as having said. FYI that's known as an argumentum ad populum.

1. What definitely is true is that Shokin won court orders against Zlochevsky, seizing some of  his personal assets. 
2. Another thing that's definitely true is that Biden unilaterally had Shokin fired right after ^that^
3. Another thing that's true is that Zloch hired Joe's son for an absurd amount of money, based on his experience
4. Another thing that's definitely true is that Joe Biden claims sole responsibility for the "solid guy" that was put in Shokin's place. 
5. Another thing that's definitely true is that the guy who was put in Shokin's place didn't win any court orders against Zlochevsky. 
6. Another thing that's definitely true is that the guy who was put in Shokin's place eventually ended up dropping all of the charges against Zlochevsky, and Zloch came back to Ukraine to be reunited with his assets.

I have a list of a bunch of things that are absolutely true, and they are all very damning, especially in conjunction with each other, you just have one logical fallacy, stupid.

You read somewhere that a bunch of guys wanted Shokin out, but you don't even know how many of the alleged 'everyone' have kids or spouses or siblings who were benefitting from the corruption there.

RECAP:

1) Biden showed up, 2) Zloch was in trouble, 3) Zloch hired Joe's kid for stupid gobs of cash, 4) Joe fired the guy who put Zloch in trouble 5) Joe hired a guy who let Zloch off the hook. 6) but you have a quote from "everyone". Dude, 'everyone' you quote is an arsehole. 

And guess what, dummy: people say nice things about Trump all the time. Should we drop all the charges? POOF! GONE! Someone said that "everybody" liked Trump, they even said that he's probably the best guy ever, greatest guy ever (I wonder who that was), so it's time to drop all the charges. 

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Hodad said:

Jeebus, you're still climbing to a conspiracy theory that never made sense and was been thoroughly debunked years ago. And debunked on this forum multiple times, spoon feeding you. You're like one of the Q fools still waiting in Dallas for JFK to show up. 

When are leftards gonna learn to stop saying 'conspiracy theory'? It's like the Buffalo Bills saying "Super Bowls". 

Edited December 20, 2023 by WestCanMan

[WestCanMan]

8 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You're the simpleton who believes any of your gish gallop is ILLEGAL. They're NOT.

Huge difference between those and ACTUAL selling of political favors BY JOE. Duh

Which one of these things is false, stupid?

1) Biden showed up, 2) Zloch was in trouble, 3) Zloch hired Joe's kid for stupid gobs of cash, 4) Joe fired the guy who put Zloch in trouble 5) Joe hired a "solid guy" who let Zloch off the hook 6) Joe pretended that he didn't know about Hunter's overseas business dealings 7) Joe pretended that he didn't talk to Hunter's associates  8. Joe was busted for using an email alias to talk to some of Hunter's associates.

Edited December 20, 2023 by WestCanMan

[Rebound]

42 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Which one of these things is false, stupid?

1) Biden showed up, 2) Zloch was in trouble, 3) Zloch hired Joe's kid for stupid gobs of cash, 4) Joe fired the guy who put Zloch in trouble 5) Joe hired a "solid guy" who let Zloch off the hook 6) Joe pretended that he didn't know about Hunter's overseas business dealings 7) Joe pretended that he didn't talk to Hunter's associates  8. Joe was busted for using an email alias to talk to some of Hunter's associates.

All that stuff is made up. 
What’s not made up: The entire European Union, every country, wanted the prosecutor fired. The World Bank wanted him fired. The International Monetary Fund wanted him fired.  The Obama Administration wanted him fired.  
 

WHY CANT YOU GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK F-ING SKULL?  FIRING THE GUY WAS OBVIOUSLY NOT A CORRUPT ACT. 

[robosmith]

49 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Which one of these things is false, stupid?

1) Biden showed up, 2) Zloch was in trouble, 3) Zloch hired Joe's kid for stupid gobs of cash, 4) Joe fired the guy who put Zloch in trouble 5) Joe hired a "solid guy" who let Zloch off the hook 6) Joe pretended that he didn't know about Hunter's overseas business dealings 7) Joe pretended that he didn't talk to Hunter's associates  8. Joe was busted for using an email alias to talk to some of Hunter's associates.

1. Not a crime

2. Not a crime

3. Not a crime

4. Joe implemented official US policy as determined by POTUS. Not a crime.

5. Joe never "hired" anyone in the Ukraine. NO AUTHORITY FOR THAT, dummy.

6. "no knowledge" can mean many different things, NOT exclusively your interpretation. In any case, Not a crime.

7.  Not a crime.

8. "Busted"? LMAO. It's been shown to you that's SOP for top government officials. AKA, Not a crime.

You're the one who's stupid enough to believe any of ^these are impeachable "high crimes or misdemeanor" offenses.

[WestCanMan]

33 minutes ago, Rebound said:

All that stuff is made up. 
What’s not made up: The entire European Union, every country, wanted the prosecutor fired. The World Bank wanted him fired. The International Monetary Fund wanted him fired.  The Obama Administration wanted him fired.  
 

WHY CANT YOU GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK F-ING SKULL?  FIRING THE GUY WAS OBVIOUSLY NOT A CORRUPT ACT. 

Nothing is made up, liar, aside from your story about "everyone in the EU wanting Shokin fired":

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The European Commission praised Ukraine’s Prosecutor-General Viktor Shokin for his efforts to fight corruption in a December 2015 progress report published nine days after then-VP Joe Biden demanded his ouster.

The report flies in the face of Biden’s claims that the European Union joined his demands that Shokin be removed for being corrupt and obstructing anti-corruption reforms.

In fact, the Dec. 18, 2015, progress report, obtained by the New York Post, says that the European Union was satisfied that Ukraine had achieved “noteworthy” progress, including in “preventing and fighting corruption,” and thus was eligible for visa-free travel in Europe.

 

There's video of Biden himself claiming to have had Shokin fired, personally. In that same video he says that he "got a new 'solid guy' put in his place."

Shokin absolutey won court orders seizing Zloch's assets:

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A court order was won by Shokin on Feb. 2, 2016 and gave his office seizure of Zlochevsky’s property. Shokin was fired roughly two months later on March 29, purportedly due to his own corruption.

Same article:

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Archer testified that Hunter was required to get help from then-Vice President Joe Biden “regarding the Ukrainina prosecutor Viktor Shokin.” Shokin was investigating Burisma on corruption charges.

***

Archer testified, “He was a threat. He ended up seizing assets of [Burisma owner] Nikolai [Zlochevsky] — a house, some cars, a couple properties. And Nikolai actually never went back to Ukraine after Shokin seized all of his assets.”

WSJ:

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WASHINGTON—A consulting firm hired by Burisma Group mentioned that former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden’s son served on the Ukrainian gas company’s board so the firm could leverage a meeting with the State Department, according to documents and a former U.S. official.

Rebound, you're a stupid little liar with one debunked quote to hide behind. That doesn't stand up to videos of Joe saying the inside stuff out loud.  

Joe's a corrupt id10t and you're his stooge. 

Time for you to run off and ignore this thread now ?

[WestCanMan]

39 minutes ago, robosmith said:

1. Not a crime

2. Not a crime

3. Not a crime

4. Joe implemented official US policy as determined by POTUS. Not a crime.

5. Joe never "hired" anyone in the Ukraine. NO AUTHORITY FOR THAT, dummy.

6. "no knowledge" can mean many different things, NOT exclusively your interpretation. In any case, Not a crime.

7.  Not a crime.

8. "Busted"? LMAO. It's been shown to you that's SOP for top government officials. AKA, Not a crime.

You're the one who's stupid enough to believe any of ^these are impeachable "high crimes or misdemeanor" offenses.

Read the post above this one you dumb little weasel. Joe used the weight of his political office to benefit his son, and Hunter got millions from it. 

FYI that's not what you're supposed to do as the VPOTUS.

I personally hope that Biden still runs next year, it's a huge mistake to derail that loser right now.