A Catastrophic Climate ‘Tipping Point’ Is Imminent

[Aristides]

4 minutes ago, taxme said:

I do not need a PhD to know when i see and read bullshit that come out of the lying mouths from people like Al Gore. All Gore's predictions have not happened yet. Remember that Gore once predicted that Miami would be under water years ago. And you still believe this lying fool, and others like him, who still spread false lies? Wake up yourself, fool.

As i have asked you already, where is the real proof that we are in a "man made" climate crisis? 

Website owner Marc Marano of Climate Depot makes a way more sense than the people that you listen too. Marano questions this so called man made climate crisis and exposes the lies and bullshit about climate change crisis. I will bet that you ahve not bothered to go to his website and read what Marc has to say? And why would people like Marano want to even try to deny that we are in a climate crisis situation just to try and make an ass of himself. 

As i have said already, i am not going to get myself all into a state of panic over something that may turn out to be not so much to worry about at all. Some scientists and experts even believe that we are in a cooling down stage instead. 

Hey, we never know, eh?  😇

You obviously haven't learned anything in the past 20 years.

Marc Marano is a political hack who used to work for Rush Limbaugh. He has no scientific background which obviously makes him an authority to a fool like you.

[taxme]

On 1/1/2024 at 11:33 AM, Perspektiv said:

Look up youth and children climate anxiety. The deliberate working from "woke" politicians. The level of how dire things are. Kids see things literally, and I've spoken to some who literally feel their death will be imminent. Sounds like panic to me!

How about leadership by example? If I'm pushing recycling, don't you think it would be best that I recycle?

Being the type of leader who stresses to do as I say, vs do as I do, won't get you taken very seriously. Rightfully so, in my opinion.

I see it like this. My car is a fuel sipper, at best. I purchased it deliberately because of how little fuel it uses. I barely drive it in the summer, and use my bike.

I think this shaming I see politicians like Justin Trudeau push onto people, as he wants to "put a price on pollution", yet will routinely hop on private jets, for his many vacations. I don't understand how I'm to be shamed, when he clearly pollutes and wastes more than me without even trying.

Its deliberately divisive, vs doing the more common sense thing. Investing into greener initiatives, and incentivizing current ones. Once the green option is best on market, and makes financial sense, it will be adopted.

Shaming simply builds resent, and will push away many.

I was watching the news the other day, and there was this one big wind storm on the go that brought down parts of one of those huge gigantic windmills, that our politicians want to put up everywhere, where i saw the four windmill blades break off and go flying in all directions. Imagine if there was someone that happened to be beneath that windmill? 

Well, there goes a windmill that probably cost the taxpayer's a couple of hundred thousand dollars down the drain. And what happens if there is no wind to make those windmills spin? No electricity by chance? What a joke these windmills are.  

Globalist Trudeau is an ass, and he shows us all that he is an ass everyday. This buffoon needs to go before he does any more damage to Canada. Canada could be a very wealthy country today, if it were not for that Marxist buffoon in power running and ruining this once great nation. Can Canada survive and take another two more years of this clown? A bloody good question indeed. 🤗

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, Aristides said:

They have proved there is a crisis, you just don't want to listen. You are so afraid they are right you can't bring yourself to believe it.

We are working toward less fossil fuel but not fast enough. But hey, if there is no crisis why bother to do anything? Right?

They have? Show me this proof.

Why do anything? Ahh the sentiments of a Libbie. We do things for satisfaction and advancement. At least conservatives do because...conservatives like making their own way. Not relying on others for a living.

Edited January 2, 2024 by Nationalist

[Aristides]

All the data is pointing in that direction. Like I said, in spite of all the evidence that says otherwise, you can deny smoking gives you cancer until it gives it to you.

Yes, you find it satisfying to ignore science and what is now decades of data and work. It is much easier to live in a world you invented than in the real world. We already know that.

[Rebound]

1 hour ago, taxme said:

I do not need a PhD to know when i see and read bullshit that come out of the lying mouths from people like Al Gore. All Gore's predictions have not happened yet. Remember that Gore once predicted that Miami would be under water years ago. And you still believe this lying fool, and others like him, who still spread false lies? Wake up yourself, fool.

As i have asked you already, where is the real proof that we are in a "man made" climate crisis? 

Website owner Marc Marano of Climate Depot makes a way more sense than the people that you listen too. Marano questions this so called man made climate crisis and exposes the lies and bullshit about climate change crisis. I will bet that you ahve not bothered to go to his website and read what Marc has to say? And why would people like Marano want to even try to deny that we are in a climate crisis situation just to try and make an ass of himself. 

As i have said already, i am not going to get myself all into a state of panic over something that may turn out to be not so much to worry about at all. Some scientists and experts even believe that we are in a cooling down stage instead. 

Hey, we never know, eh?  😇

Here’s the data that does come from the PhD’s. Gore was correct.

https://climate.nasa.gov

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

"AHHH! WE ALL GONNA DIIIEEE!"

Look...I have no doubt that our use of fossil fuels has produced a negative consequence. But...

A. Nobody has proven there is a crisis.

B. We could work toward less fossil fuel dependencies and maintain production and realistic prices.

You repeating ^this HYPERBOLE over and over just makes you THE FOOL.

You sound like the the Tobacco Company execs trying to deny that cigarettes are addictive before Congress.

"No one has proven...." AKA, an lDIOT. 

You STILL don't understand how "tipping points" can be a crisis, turning a slowly increasing water level into a waterfall and then a breached dam. It happens. 

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, taxme said:

I do not need a PhD to know when i see and read bullshit that come out of the lying mouths from people like Al Gore. All Gore's predictions have not happened yet. Remember that Gore once predicted that Miami would be under water years ago. And you still believe this lying fool, and others like him, who still spread false lies? Wake up yourself, fool.

As i have asked you already, where is the real proof that we are in a "man made" climate crisis? 

Website owner Marc Marano of Climate Depot makes a way more sense than the people that you listen too. Marano questions this so called man made climate crisis and exposes the lies and bullshit about climate change crisis. I will bet that you ahve not bothered to go to his website and read what Marc has to say? And why would people like Marano want to even try to deny that we are in a climate crisis situation just to try and make an ass of himself. 

As i have said already, i am not going to get myself all into a state of panic over something that may turn out to be not so much to worry about at all. Some scientists and experts even believe that we are in a cooling down stage instead. 

Hey, we never know, eh?  😇

Morono and Gore are birds of a feather fighting on opposite sides. Neither are scientists with intimate KNOWLEDGE.

Only diff is Gore actually took college courses from Dr. Roger Revelle, a pioneering climate scientist.

Meanwhile Morono is a shill working for Sen Inhofe and serving his and the fossil fuel industry he represents, climate denial agenda.

Of course you're completely IGNORANT about ALL OF THAT. As I suspected you've never read a single scientific article on climate and thus have NO CREDIBILITY to determine ANYONE is LYING.

 

[taxme]

3 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Morono and Gore are birds of a feather fighting on opposite sides. Neither are scientists with intimate KNOWLEDGE.

Only diff is Gore actually took college courses from Dr. Roger Revelle, a pioneering climate scientist.

Meanwhile Morono is a shill working for Sen Inhofe and serving his and the fossil fuel industry he represents, climate denial agenda.

Of course you're completely IGNORANT about ALL OF THAT. As I suspected you've never read a single scientific article on climate and thus have NO CREDIBILITY to determine ANYONE is LYING.

 

When i will need a row boat to get around where i live, it is then i may start to believe that we are having some kind of a climate crisis. But until then, i am not going to give a crap about climate change. Besides, i will be long gone by the time the earth warms up by two degrees and the water level around where i live will flood the street that i live on. 

You really need to chill out and stop paying attention to those climate crisis doom and gloom people. Things could change in a few years and the reverse could happen. Try and stay calm until the water starts to flood your lawn and doorstep. 

Good advice, don't you think? I think so. 😀
  

[taxme]

56 minutes ago, Aristides said:

All the data is pointing in that direction. Like I said, in spite of all the evidence that says otherwise, you can deny smoking gives you cancer until it gives it to you.

Yes, you find it satisfying to ignore science and what is now decades of data and work. It is much easier to live in a world you invented than in the real world. We already know that.

How would you really know if the scientists or the so called experts that you like to listen to and believe have not invented the idea of a climate crisis happening for themselves to make plenty of money and to try and get recognition of some sort.

As they say? Seeing is believing. As of yet, i do not see all that much happening at all with the climate. Where i live i have not seen much change at all as far as the weather or climate goes. It's just another rainy day in BC as usual. 😇  

[Aristides]

27 minutes ago, taxme said:

When i will need a row boat to get around where i live, it is then i may start to believe that we are having some kind of a climate crisis. But until then, i am not going to give a crap about climate change. Besides, i will be long gone by the time the earth warms up by two degrees and the water level around where i live will flood the street that i live on. 

You really need to chill out and stop paying attention to those climate crisis doom and gloom people. Things could change in a few years and the reverse could happen. Try and stay calm until the water starts to flood your lawn and doorstep. 

Good advice, don't you think? I think so. 😀
  

What school did you go to because you sure didn't absorb much. When stuff gets hotter, it melts faster and expands more. You're welcome. 

[Rebound]

1 hour ago, taxme said:

When i will need a row boat to get around where i live, it is then i may start to believe that we are having some kind of a climate crisis. But until then, i am not going to give a crap about climate change. Besides, i will be long gone by the time the earth warms up by two degrees and the water level around where i live will flood the street that i live on. 

You really need to chill out and stop paying attention to those climate crisis doom and gloom people. Things could change in a few years and the reverse could happen. Try and stay calm until the water starts to flood your lawn and doorstep. 

Good advice, don't you think? I think so. 😀
  

In other words, you’re psychotic. 

[taxme]

38 minutes ago, Aristides said:

What school did you go to because you sure didn't absorb much. When stuff gets hotter, it melts faster and expands more. You're welcome. 

Well IMHO, whatever school that you went too, did they teach you anything at all other than about gender and pronouns by chance? Just wondering about that? 

Of course, we all know that when stuff gets hotter things will melt, as you like to point out. Are you trying to become another Einstein and try to impress other members here when it comes to stuff melting? Are you trying to appear to be a fart smeller?  🤣 

[OftenWrong]

6 hours ago, Aristides said:

if you pump billions of tons of  stored carbon into the atmosphere, the existing carbon cycle can't handle it. Tree dies and rots.

In my greenhouse when I add CO2 the plants do not "die", in fact quite the opposite, they grow massively. They convert that CO2 to carbon in their stems and leaves. 

That means we should be seeing more greenery, but we are not.

It's a little old thing called biofeedback, or something.

So CO2 is good for my plants.

The issue is exacerbated by global deforestation, which we could do something about but I don't hear that from Trudeau et al, or any of you climate cultists. Just want to tax the mofos. Develop even more complicated technology, the development of which just adds to more carbon.

All the while we are in a major die-off extinction event the likes of which have not been seen before by the fossil record. But your hero Justin don't give a hootenany about that.

I guess his hair and dazzling smile really works for you people.

Edited January 2, 2024 by OftenWrong

[taxme]

14 minutes ago, Rebound said:

In other words, you’re psychotic. 

I very well could be? LOL. 

Edited January 2, 2024 by taxme

[Legato]

53 minutes ago, Aristides said:

What school did you go to because you sure didn't absorb much. When stuff gets hotter, it melts faster and expands more. You're welcome. 

Have you tried boiling an egg? You're welcome

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

You repeating ^this HYPERBOLE over and over just makes you THE FOOL.

You sound like the the Tobacco Company execs trying to deny that cigarettes are addictive before Congress.

"No one has proven...." AKA, an lDIOT. 

You STILL don't understand how "tipping points" can be a crisis, turning a slowly increasing water level into a waterfall and then a breached dam. It happens. 

So go hide under a table. I'm sure you're good at that.

I'll panic if and when I see proof of a crisis. And if that ever happens, I'll meet it head on. Not cowering like a little weasel. 

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Aristides said:

It has been laid out but hey, smoking doesn't give you cancer until you get it. Right?

I've never seen it.  Which is weird because we all post data on just about every other topic.  For example.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK53010/

Took me 2 seconds.  And i can pull up a lot of details about specific resaerch indicating just how likely it is for smokeing to give me cancer etc etc.

Here's the thing tho - it would be one thing to say "CO2 causes the earth to get warmer".  Ok - that would be like a 'causal relationship between smoking and cancer'.  But - we keep hearing specific claims like "by 2035 it will no longer be possible to take action to prevent an unspecified dire result".   Well - that's a very specific thing tied to a very nebulous result that is just sort of "bad".

So - lets see the details.

Quote

There are sections between Abbotsford and Chilliwack

I've already posted the modelling for this.  Complete with interactive tool so you can try different things. You sure seem to love to deny science when it suits you.   A 3 ft rise in ocean water will NOT in ANY way represent a serious threat to the fraser valley that we can't easily deal with. Period.

And this is why people get skeptical. I hear these claims and before we even look at the data bout whether or not there WILL be a rise in the oceans, i see that such a rise won't have the effect someone claims it will and of COURSE the rest of the narrative becomes highly suspect.

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, Aristides said:

All the data is pointing in that direction. Like I said, in spite of all the evidence that says otherwise, you can deny smoking gives you cancer until it gives it to you.

Yes, you find it satisfying to ignore science and what is now decades of data and work. It is much easier to live in a world you invented than in the real world. We already know that.

Who is "we"? You and a bunch of limp climate alarmists?

Data is maliable. This has been proven over and over. Identical data can be manipulated to show exactly the opposite of your outlandish claim, but you freaks are simply not comfortable unless you're all panicking about something or someone.

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, taxme said:

When i will need a row boat to get around where i live, it is then i may start to believe that we are having some kind of a climate crisis. But until then, i am not going to give a crap about climate change. Besides, i will be long gone by the time the earth warms up by two degrees and the water level around where i live will flood the street that i live on. 

You really need to chill out and stop paying attention to those climate crisis doom and gloom people. Things could change in a few years and the reverse could happen. Try and stay calm until the water starts to flood your lawn and doorstep. 

Good advice, don't you think? I think so. 😀
  

Yes, I think you should ignore your doctor and keep on smoking cause it won't kill you THIS WEEK. LMAO

Meanwhile you're running up the bill for your children, and yourself depending on how old you are, by FAILING to ACT NOW to stem GHG.

Pay a little now, or a lot more later.

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, taxme said:

How would you really know if the scientists or the so called experts that you like to listen to and believe have not invented the idea of a climate crisis happening for themselves to make plenty of money and to try and get recognition of some sort.

As they say? Seeing is believing. As of yet, i do not see all that much happening at all with the climate. Where i live i have not seen much change at all as far as the weather or climate goes. It's just another rainy day in BC as usual. 😇  

You ever see the wing blowing? Or just the trees swaying as if by magic?

Maybe you could do a little research, if you're not too lazy, or too dumb to understand the science.

Until you do, you sound like a fool by pretending to understand who is lying.

1 hour ago, taxme said:

Well IMHO, whatever school that you went too, did they teach you anything at all other than about gender and pronouns by chance? Just wondering about that? 

Of course, we all know that when stuff gets hotter things will melt, as you like to point out. Are you trying to become another Einstein and try to impress other members here when it comes to stuff melting? Are you trying to appear to be a fart smeller?  🤣 

And you appear to be an ignoramus who cares not about the facts because you can't "see."

[robosmith]

7 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

In my greenhouse when I add CO2 the plants do not "die", in fact quite the opposite, they grow massively. They convert that CO2 to carbon in their stems and leaves. 

That means we should be seeing more greenery, but we are not.

It's a little old thing called biofeedback, or something.

So CO2 is good for my plants.

The issue is exacerbated by global deforestation, which we could do something about but I don't hear that from Trudeau et al, or any of you climate cultists. Just want to tax the mofos. Develop even more complicated technology, the development of which just adds to more carbon.

All the while we are in a major die-off extinction event the likes of which have not been seen before by the fossil record. But your hero Justin don't give a hootenany about that.

I guess his hair and dazzling smile really works for you people.

Where did you hear ^this crap?

7 hours ago, Legato said:

Have you tried boiling an egg? You're welcome

Have you tried boiling an egg in your microwave oven?

Edited January 3, 2024 by robosmith

[robosmith]

51 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

So go hide under a table. I'm sure you're good at that.

I'll panic if and when I see proof of a crisis. And if that ever happens, I'll meet it head on. Not cowering like a little weasel. 

Bad for you. Intelligent people learn how to fix problems and take action BEFORE the crisis become severe.

But you're going to "meet it head on" like that's going to stop a major drought, flood or forest fire. LMAO

Since you can't understand the science, the least you MIGHT do is listen to the experts who do.

[Aristides]

1 hour ago, taxme said:

Well IMHO, whatever school that you went too, did they teach you anything at all other than about gender and pronouns by chance? Just wondering about that? 

Of course, we all know that when stuff gets hotter things will melt, as you like to point out. Are you trying to become another Einstein and try to impress other members here when it comes to stuff melting? Are you trying to appear to be a fart smeller?  🤣 

I went to a technical school, gender and pronouns weren't a thing back then but science was. You seem more the liberal arts type because you know SFA about science.

[CdnFox]

10 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You ever see the wing blowing?

I see a wing NUT blowing hot air... is that similar?

[Aristides]

51 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Who is "we"? You and a bunch of limp climate alarmists?

Data is maliable. This has been proven over and over. Identical data can be manipulated to show exactly the opposite of your outlandish claim, but you freaks are simply not comfortable unless you're all panicking about something or someone.

 

It isn't malleable at all, the evidence is overwhelming. Cherry picking data is not proof of anything.

We is anyone who sees climate change as an actual problem, not some right vs left ideology dispute. Nature doesn't give a shit about anyone's politics. 

Edited January 3, 2024 by Aristides