Where did Trump get the votes needed for him to get elected.

[jbander1A]

He has done what other dictators have done in the past, like Hitler and his brown shirts , Trump gave a voice to people who have lived under rocks for their whole life , a place that society put them to keep them away from our children and out of society, and he also gave voice to the most ignorant among us .  All you have to do to find this truth is go to any video of a Trump rally . The last people you would ever ask advice from are spewing their thoughts in the most ignorant stupidest way. Just watch their source up on stage, Trump, saying the most ridiculous stupid things that can only be geared to the most ignorant among us . Then also listen to their list of things they hate in this country , women , gays, bi's immigrants, you know the endless list. 

     In a civilized society you wouldn't give voice to the weakest most hateful and ignorant among us . But that is exactly where trump got his extra voters needed to be elected. 

    The major point is that it will be very hard to take away these  rejects and ignorant voice because no time in history has their opinion been asked for and they will fight like hell to keep the only voice they have ever had. . You wouldn't go to a Mental institute or jail to get political advice. Trump would.

[robosmith]

Ironically, Trump is not actually listening to them, except to compose fake campaign promises, and they don't even notice.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, jbander1A said:

In a civilized society you wouldn't give voice to the weakest most hateful and ignorant among us .

Tell that to those who support Hamas.

 

[robosmith]

49 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Tell that to those who support Hamas.

Are you trying to claim that Hamas is "among us"?

[Guest]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Are you trying to claim that Hamas is "among us"?

Only those who support them.

[Rebound]

2 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Tell that to those who support Hamas.

 

Hamas isn’t civilized.  

[CdnFox]

6 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Hamas isn’t civilized.  

And yet heavily supported by the dems.

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, jbander1A said:

He has done what other dictators have done in the past, like Hitler and his brown shirts , Trump gave a voice to people who have lived under rocks for their whole life , a place that society put them to keep them away from our children and out of society, and he also gave voice to the most ignorant among us .  All you have to do to find this truth is go to any video of a Trump rally . The last people you would ever ask advice from are spewing their thoughts in the most ignorant stupidest way. Just watch their source up on stage, Trump, saying the most ridiculous stupid things that can only be geared to the most ignorant among us . Then also listen to their list of things they hate in this country , women , gays, bi's immigrants, you know the endless list. 

     In a civilized society you wouldn't give voice to the weakest most hateful and ignorant among us . But that is exactly where trump got his extra voters needed to be elected. 

    The major point is that it will be very hard to take away these  rejects and ignorant voice because no time in history has their opinion been asked for and they will fight like hell to keep the only voice they have ever had. . You wouldn't go to a Mental institute or jail to get political advice. Trump would.

Yeah yeah deplorables deplorables everyone right of castro is a nazi.

The person i see spewing hatred here is you.  And you're not a trump supporter.  So how do you circle that square exactly?

Here's how you can tell the dems are basically the 'bad guys' in all of this. The REAL truth about dictators and authoritarians is the first thing they want to do is dehumanize their opponents.  Jews aren't real people, they're evil.  The capitalists aren't real people, we communists can kill them guilt free.  Etc etc.

And of course - anyone who disagrees with the left is a 'deplorable',  an evil subhuman who we can disregard without listening to.

Shame on you.

You would do better in life to listen to trump supporters and try to understand why they have a problem with the likes of biden etc. When the dems stop promoting hatred as you have done and start promoting listening, then maybe america can correct it's course and avoid disaster.  Maybe.

[robosmith]

42 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Only those who support them.

The supporters referenced who give voice are "in a civilized society," giving "voice to the weakest most hateful and ignorant among us."

Doesn't work for supporters of Hamas unless Hamas is among us. Clearly you have misinterpreted the meaning. 

It does not reference Hamas by any interpretation.

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, robosmith said:

The supporters referenced who give voice are "in a civilized society," giving "voice to the weakest most hateful and ignorant among us."

That's not right -  You are the weakest most hateful and ignorant among us and you've never once voted for trump !

Hell you don't even know what a subpoena is.

 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Doesn't work for supporters of Hamas unless Hamas is among us.

Hamas doesn't need to be among us, for the hatred of those who are Jewish to be spread.

In fact, its spreading as we speak. Many even in the media, fan those flames by refusing to condemn Hamas for starting the war.

Calling what Israel is doing in retaliation genocide or pushing that agenda, yet few dare to truly condemn and pressure Hamas.

Hatred in all of its forms should be condemned. Not just that which would be considered from the right.

Black lives matter. Antifa. All hate groups that operate under the guise of caring for others, as long as you follow their opinion and agree with it.

Sorry to say, but either extreme will find a massive dip in IQ. Away from that, will you start seeing more logic and common sense.

The fact that you can't recognize this, and only know how to demonize anyone who opposes your opinion leaves me with nothing else to say, as your actions speak loud enough.

[Michael Hardner]

Reference point - 

Quote

Americans' sympathies overall lie with Israel in this conflict, but Democrats are split

By a 61%-30% margin, respondents said their sympathies lie more with Israelis than Palestinians, but that's driven by Republicans (79%) and independents (67%), who overwhelmingly support Israel.

Democrats are split, 45%-45%.

https://www.npr.org/2023/11/15/1212913674/poll-israel-hamas-war-biden-democrats-republicans#:~:text=Americans' sympathies overall lie with,%)%2C who overwhelmingly support Israel.

[TreeBeard]

5 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Tell that to those who support Hamas.

 

Did you know that your post commits a tu quoque fallacy?  

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, TreeBeard said:

Did you know that your post commits a tu quoque fallacy?  

 

Did you know that saying that instead of addressing his point is a tu quoque fallacy?

[jbander1A]

4 hours ago, Rebound said:

Hamas isn’t civilized.  

there are 12 people that make up Hamas and there are 5 1/2 million Palestinians and the right want to kill all 51/2 million Palestinian to kill those 12 people that make up Hamas and that's the normal scum thinking that drives the right in their every action.

[jbander1A]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

Reference point - 

https://www.npr.org/2023/11/15/1212913674/poll-israel-hamas-war-biden-democrats-republicans#:~:text=Americans' sympathies overall lie with,%)%2C who overwhelmingly support Israel.

That means little , people support the right for Israel to exist but killing 51/2 million Palestinians  to get at the 12 people that make up Hamas is barbaric and so Right wing normal.

[jbander1A]

This is the thread lets stick to it

He has done what other dictators have done in the past, like Hitler and his brown shirts , Trump gave a voice to people who have lived under rocks for their whole life , a place that society put them to keep them away from our children and out of society, and he also gave voice to the most ignorant among us .  All you have to do to find this truth is go to any video of a Trump rally . The last people you would ever ask advice from are spewing their thoughts in the most ignorant stupidest way. Just watch their source up on stage, Trump, saying the most ridiculous stupid things that can only be geared to the most ignorant among us . Then also listen to their list of things they hate in this country , women , gays, bi's immigrants, you know the endless list. 

     In a civilized society you wouldn't give voice to the weakest most hateful and ignorant among us . But that is exactly where trump got his extra voters needed to be elected. 

    The major point is that it will be very hard to take away these  rejects and ignorant voice because no time in history has their opinion been asked for and they will fight like hell to keep the only voice they have ever had. . You wouldn't go to a Mental institute or jail to get political advice. Trump would.

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, jbander1A said:

This is the thread lets stick to it

He has done what other dictators have done in the past, like Hitler and his brown shirts , Trump gave a voice to people who have lived under rocks for their whole life , a place that society put them to keep them away from our children and out of society, and he also gave voice to the most ignorant among us .  All you have to do to find this truth is go to any video of a Trump rally . The last people you would ever ask advice from are spewing their thoughts in the most ignorant stupidest way. Just watch their source up on stage, Trump, saying the most ridiculous stupid things that can only be geared to the most ignorant among us . Then also listen to their list of things they hate in this country , women , gays, bi's immigrants, you know the endless list. 

     In a civilized society you wouldn't give voice to the weakest most hateful and ignorant among us . But that is exactly where trump got his extra voters needed to be elected. 

    The major point is that it will be very hard to take away these  rejects and ignorant voice because no time in history has their opinion been asked for and they will fight like hell to keep the only voice they have ever had. . You wouldn't go to a Mental institute or jail to get political advice. Trump would.

That's already been shown to be a lie.  Why do you want to stick to a lie? Are you hoping that if you repeat a lie often enough it'll become true?

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Hamas doesn't need to be among us, for the hatred of those who are Jewish to be spread.

In fact, its spreading as we speak. Many even in the media, fan those flames by refusing to condemn Hamas for starting the war.

Calling what Israel is doing in retaliation genocide or pushing that agenda, yet few dare to truly condemn and pressure Hamas.

Hatred in all of its forms should be condemned. Not just that which would be considered from the right.

Black lives matter. Antifa. All hate groups that operate under the guise of caring for others, as long as you follow their opinion and agree with it.

Sorry to say, but either extreme will find a massive dip in IQ. Away from that, will you start seeing more logic and common sense.

The fact that you can't recognize this, and only know how to demonize anyone who opposes your opinion leaves me with nothing else to say, as your actions speak loud enough.

My "actions" are NOTING your NONSENSE interpretation of what was written by the OP here.

You had to twist his words like a pretzel to make it about Hamas when that clearly wasn't meant.

It is you who cannot recognize that reality.

[Guest]

5 hours ago, jbander1A said:

He has done what other dictators have done in the past, like Hitler

Start wars and kill millions of Jewish people?

5 hours ago, jbander1A said:

a place that society put them to keep them away from our children and out of society

Now they have the trans agenda.

I would honestly rather my kids go to school with someone spewing racist shit, than someone telling them their gender is whatever they dream it up to be.

Laws protect against hate crimes, in that the penalty is so severe it acts as a deterrent for most.

Up to extremists  trans ideology would fully permeate laws, and bleed into the applying of them even in the language.

5 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Are you hoping that if you repeat a lie often enough it'll become true?

A man who dressed as a woman, is a woman. Trans women are women! 

There. Now its true. Carry on.

3 hours ago, robosmith said:

You had to twist his words

I used his words at face value. I called out his flawed logic.

5 hours ago, jbander1A said:

there are 12 people that make up Hamas and there are 5 1/2 million Palestinians and the right want to kill all 51/2 million Palestinian to kill those 12 people

More like over 40 thousand militants, that keep bombing, kidnapping and raping as well as killing innocent Israel citizens.

More like over 2 million Gazans. 

You can't keep a terrorist group in power, with the sole mission of killing Jewish people if you want any semblance of peace.

There cannot be peace with Hamas.

I like how you casually gloss over the atrocities they are behind.

But its those defending Israel's right to defend themselves against an act of war, that needs their mind checked. Yeah, ok.

5 hours ago, jbander1A said:

but killing 51/2 million Palestinians

You're that person who sees a Cambodian person, a Japanese person, a Korean and a Filipino, and tell them they must be from China.

If you're going to be ignorant, at least try to be somewhat accurate with the population.

You otherwise come across as that rambling crack addict ranting about how Jesus was here, yesterday, but "nobody noticed! All of you are crazy!" *goes on to defecate at the crosswalk, and casually walk off*

[CdnFox]

32 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

A man who dressed as a woman, is a woman. Trans women are women! 

There. Now its true. Carry on.

Does that mean if my GF steals my shirt and wears it i'm gay?  (my god, i might finally be a repressed person!)

Edited December 8, 2023 by CdnFox

[Nationalist]

6 hours ago, jbander1A said:

In a civilized society you wouldn't give voice to the weakest most hateful and ignorant among us .

Oh? OK everyone. @jbander1A has decided which people matter and which people can be...discarded.

The discards would include Trannies...drug addicts...those with any sort of disability...oh...and much of the black community.

The Libbie mind. It is indeed a chaotic mess of contradiction, hypocrisy and hatred. 

[myata]

In a popular democracy, populists like him need to convince close to 50% of the voters (if not the entire voting population) to come to power. So these cannot be, factually and objectively, limited to "the most... whatever" among us.

There are many reasons why these messages pop up, over and again, in different places throughout the history. They are objective reasons, caused by real processes in the society. It's an oversimplification that leads nowhere to attribute them to specific individuals or small groups.

[robosmith]

9 hours ago, Nationalist said:

The Libbie mind. It is indeed a chaotic mess of contradiction, hypocrisy and hatred. 

Only the fantasy parts that penetrate your cognitive dissonance. AKA, get passed your strong right wing filter.

[Rebound]

On 12/7/2023 at 8:07 PM, jbander1A said:

That means little , people support the right for Israel to exist but killing 51/2 million Palestinians  to get at the 12 people that make up Hamas is barbaric and so Right wing normal.

Hamas is much more than 12 people and the fatalities to date are nowhere near 5 1/2 million.