For Those of you Thought That Nazis Were From The "Conservative Religious Right"...

[WestCanMan]

5 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

The OP is trying to paint this picture where modern America is going to end up in a situation similar to, if not exactly the same, as WWII era Germany. Supposedly, the game plan is the same. Well.. if you read Mein Kempf and Zweites Buch (both written by Hitler), it is clear that the end goal could not be more different than anything the modern American liberal espouses. 

Blah, blah, blah.

I plainly stated where America is on the spectrum between actual democracy and full-blown fascist state. I never said that they were intent on another holocaust. 

You just think that saying "THERE HASN'T BEEN A HOLOCAUST YET!" proves that everything is 100% fine. 

 

[WestCanMan]

4 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

There is no imagination.. You.. yes you, of your own volition wrote the bit about CNN. Do you deny this? Or did your doppelganger do this?

I said "Stop referring to CNN talking points as facts, child." because that's exactly what you did. Go back and look ffs. 

[impartialobserver]

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

Blah, blah, blah.

I plainly stated where America is on the spectrum between actual democracy and full-blown fascist state. I never said that they were intent on another holocaust. 

You just think that saying "THERE HASN'T BEEN A HOLOCAUST YET!" proves that everything is 100% fine. 

 

and the actions taken by Hitler between 1924 and 1933 (which faithfully follow the motivations written in Mein Kempf) do not align with modern day America.. not even close. But the armchair expert (you) who has not read any of Hitler's books can't be expected to know this.

3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I said "Stop referring to CNN talking points as facts, child." because that's exactly what you did. Go back and look ffs. 

"CNN Talking points"... Game, set, match.... Second time, of your own volition, that you have put that out there. So besides being a p1ss poor analyst.. you would be a terrible lawyer. 

[Hodad]

3 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

The OP is trying to paint this picture where modern America is going to end up in a situation similar to, if not exactly the same, as WWII era Germany. Supposedly, the game plan is the same. Well.. if you read Mein Kempf and Zweites Buch (both written by Hitler), it is clear that the end goal could not be more different than anything the modern American liberal espouses. 

Full agreement from me. There is no danger from the American left. Very different goals. Very different tactics. Very different effects. Pluralism, multiculturalism, tolerance etc. These are just ignorant people on the internet shouting "Nazi" with no understanding of what that means. 

Even the American right has (mostly) different aims and objectives-they desire different outcomes. But the tactics are awfully familiar. That's sort of the irony of the whole thread.

As they lose more and more popular support they are less and less interested in democratic principles. If only they can consolidate power in other ways, they think, then they can force change upon us--for our own good, of course.

[WestCanMan]

9 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

and the actions taken by Hitler between 1924 and 1933 (which faithfully follow the motivations written in Mein Kempf) do not align with modern day America.. not even close. But the armchair expert (you) who has not read any of Hitler's books can't be expected to know this.

Buddy: a political party in the US totally controls the MSM, social media, and the FBI. They commit crimes jointly with the FBI. 

You're correct to say that they haven't committed a holocaust, or whatever your point about holocaust was, but some people think that democracy is cool, and a one-party state is not a democracy. 

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"CNN Talking points"... Game, set, match.... Second time, of your own volition, that you have put that out there. So besides being a p1ss poor analyst.. you would be a terrible lawyer. 

Yes, a CNN talking point, dummy. You alluded to some gibberish about "the Nazis and GOP have different reasons for undermining democracy". 

FYI that's not a real thing. It's "a CNN talking point" at best. Get it?

There's no "game, set, match" required from me, you're not even a minor-leaguer. 

[impartialobserver]

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

Buddy: a political party in the US totally controls the MSM, social media, and the FBI. They commit crimes jointly with the FBI. 

You're correct to say that they haven't committed a holocaust, or whatever your point about holocaust was, but some people think that democracy is cool, and a one-party state is not a democracy. 

Yes, a CNN talking point, dummy. You alluded to some gibberish about "the Nazis and GOP have different reasons for undermining democracy". 

FYI that's not a real thing. It's "a CNN talking point" at best. Get it?

There's no "game, set, match" required from me, you're not even a minor-leaguer. 

Game, set, match... "It's "a CNN talking point" at best. Get it?"... your default response to everything that you disagree with. If you are so smart.. you would not always revert back to the same tired line. Even a minor leaguer would have more than one pitch.... you have no curveball, slider, changeup... just a fastball down the middle of the plate that any respectable player can hit out of the park. Advice... try something new. 

[WestCanMan]

10 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

Game, set, match... "It's "a CNN talking point" at best. Get it?"... your default response to everything that you disagree with. If you are so smart.. you would not always revert back to the same tired line. Even a minor leaguer would have more than one pitch.... you have no curveball, slider, changeup... just a fastball down the middle of the plate that any respectable player can hit out of the park. Advice... try something new. 

You're off your rocker now dude. Nothing that you're saying even makes sense anymore. 

Go tilt at windmills in another thread. 

[WestCanMan]

14 hours ago, Rebound said:

Please name the industry which the Democrats intend to nationalize. Since that’s what Socialism is. 

TBH, it looks more and more like the Dems would like to nationalize the police force in the USA.

Yeah, the FBI is already national, but there are a bunch of "RACIST POLICE DEPARTMENTS IN THE COUNTRY THAT NEED TO BE DEFUNDED!", right?

The Dems love to denigrate PDs across the country based on nothing more than a false narrative from Ferguson or Minneapolis, and then when the FBI is caught committing actual crimes it's no big deal. 

"These little PDs are bad, very bad. The FBI is great. Trust the FBI!" 

They also like controlling social media giants. 

They had it all going their way when social media was banning people for talking about BSL4 labs and laptop evidence, and none of that bugged them at all. Suddenly when Elon Musk wanted to take over Twitter from one of their best lackeys, suddenly he went from darling to Dr evil overnight: "MUSK IS BAD! HE'LL TURN TWITTER INTO A LYING, EVIL SHIT-FEST!!!!". Even this week, leftard posters on this forum had to single out twitter for abuse again. Why? Because they left the fold. 

What other little industries are the Dems getting rid of?

Competition for Bezos, for one. As if covid lockdowns didn't hurt small business enough, suddenly theft under $1,000 is ok in a lot of places. Small business, and even medium businesses, are getting ground to dust because people can just waltz in, take what they want, and leave. If it's under $1k, almost nothing will happen if they get caught, but you can't catch them all, because the Dems have basically legalized it. It's killing small businesses.

I wonder what happens if you walk into an Amazon warehouse and just steal $999 worth of stuff...

[Moonlight Graham]

15 hours ago, Rebound said:

Please name the industry which the Democrats intend to nationalize. Since that’s what Socialism is. 

I never said the Democrats were socialists, I said they were becoming socially leftist.  In other words, leftists in the social/cultural realm, like all the woke nonsense.

[Rebound]

3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

TBH, it looks more and more like the Dems would like to nationalize the police force in the USA.

Yeah, the FBI is already national, but there are a bunch of "RACIST POLICE DEPARTMENTS IN THE COUNTRY THAT NEED TO BE DEFUNDED!", right?

The Dems love to denigrate PDs across the country based on nothing more than a false narrative from Ferguson or Minneapolis, and then when the FBI is caught committing actual crimes it's no big deal. 

"These little PDs are bad, very bad. The FBI is great. Trust the FBI!" 

They also like controlling social media giants. 

They had it all going their way when social media was banning people for talking about BSL4 labs and laptop evidence, and none of that bugged them at all. Suddenly when Elon Musk wanted to take over Twitter from one of their best lackeys, suddenly he went from darling to Dr evil overnight: "MUSK IS BAD! HE'LL TURN TWITTER INTO A LYING, EVIL SHIT-FEST!!!!". Even this week, leftard posters on this forum had to single out twitter for abuse again. Why? Because they left the fold. 

What other little industries are the Dems getting rid of?

Competition for Bezos, for one. As if covid lockdowns didn't hurt small business enough, suddenly theft under $1,000 is ok in a lot of places. Small business, and even medium businesses, are getting ground to dust because people can just waltz in, take what they want, and leave. If it's under $1k, almost nothing will happen if they get caught, but you can't catch them all, because the Dems have basically legalized it. It's killing small businesses.

I wonder what happens if you walk into an Amazon warehouse and just steal $999 worth of stuff...

The democrats don’t denigrate police departments, but the republicans sure love to smear the FBI, which is a police department. 
 

Putting a government controlled entity under government control isn’t socialism. 

[WestCanMan]

35 minutes ago, Rebound said:

The democrats don’t denigrate police departments, but the republicans sure love to smear the FBI, which is a police department. 

You're such a pathetic, shameless liar it's revolting.

1) BLM's entire narrative was about racist PDs and the Dems backed every slithery bit of it. 

2) The FBI was caught lying and committing crimes. That's not "a smear" it's "a court-documented fact".

G-d Loser.

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Putting a government controlled entity under government control isn’t socialism. 

At least you're admitting that the Dems have taken control of key institutions, so that's a start. 

The point is that they've taken control of every key government institution so far aside from the SC. Thank God for Trump. 

I'll bold that if you want, so you can pretend to get the vapors just from reading it: Thank God for Trump!

[eyeball]

7 hours ago, impartialobserver said:

"CNN Talking points"... Game, set, match.... Second time, of your own volition, that you have put that out there. So besides being a p1ss poor analyst.. you would be a terrible lawyer. 

You're talking to someone who maintains the CBC News editorial room and PMO are one and the same thing.

[Caswell Thomas]

10 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

That is an interesting story, thank you for that.

It's nice to hear about Germans who managed to keep their heads while others around them were buying into the Nazi hatred.

The fact remains though, a lot of people obviously followed the Nazis through the early stages of creeping towards fascism, and there are a lot of people on this site who don't understand the dangers of the Dems having such high-handed control over the MSM, social media, DAs, the FBI, etc.

I'm quite familiar with the story of the Prinz Eugen, it was with the ship that was the Bismarck when it confronted the Hood and the Prince of Wales. 

The German navy was quite a good place for non-Nazis. Adm. Raeder kept Jews on his ships throughout the war (I don't know if they were practicing Jews or just people born to Jewish families) and the Kriegsmarine never adopted the Nazi salute. 

In your Opinion "...the Dems have control of...etal", your Opinion, not facts.  The FBI follows Facts, not Opinion. 

[CdnFox]

19 minutes ago, Caswell Thomas said:

he FBI follows Facts, not Opinion. 

At this point we know that's not true. A number of them have found to have acted on opinions and in truth altered the facts to pursue their opinions such as was the case with Trump, where some even were charged and convicted for doing so.

[Deluge]

11 hours ago, Caswell Thomas said:

In your Opinion "...the Dems have control of...etal", your Opinion, not facts.  The FBI follows Facts, not Opinion. 

The FBI is the enforcement arm of the DNC's witch hunt.

I agree with Vivek Ramaswamy that the FBI needs to just go away. 

[WestCanMan]

12 hours ago, Caswell Thomas said:

In your Opinion "...the Dems have control of...etal", your Opinion, not facts.  The FBI follows Facts, not Opinion. 

The FBI committed crimes and told a litany of lies to start the collusion investigation and keep it going. They did that jointly with the demonrats (Hillary and her lawyer, who were working with... Russian disinformation). Those are facts, and it's just your opinion that it's not a huge deal.

It's unprecedented for any police force to conduct a raid with a media train in tow but that's exactly the FBI did when they raided Roger Stone's home. We both know that CNN crews weren't just randomly hanging out there at 5am. That was a "Russian collusion photo op". It put CNN viewers in a tizzy.

The FBI had Hunter's laptop in their possession for 11 months at the time they warned social media giants that "Russian disinformation about a Hunter laptop will be coming out". Social media banned people for talking about the laptop and used the "WUSHIN COWUZHIN" triggerword to get leftards to panic, even the NYPost was banned from social media. That was 1 month before the 2020 election. Those are all facts.

It was FBI agents who came up with the plot to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer, and they timed the arrest to be 1 month before the 2020 election. It wasn't until after the election that we found out it was an entrapment scheme. Under normal circumstances it would be a stretch to say that the FBI did that to cook up their own Oct surprise for the Dems, but they had told so many lies for the Dems and committed so many crimes with them to that point that it's the only thing that makes sense. 

The FBI arrested people for crimes that they knew about ten years ago, like Manafort's taxes. They added phony Russian collusion charges along with the real charges to keep CNN's Russian collusion boner going, but those all dried up because again - the FBI has never had a single shred of evidence of Russian collusion - but the FBI offered them reduced sentences in exchange for false testimony. 

It's not just my opinion: FISA court judge Rosemary Collyer went on record saying that the length and breadth of the FBI's lies and crimes was so ridiculous that it cast a shroud over their credibility in every court case they're involved in. 

The FBI has literally stopped pretending to be politically neutral - they just don't give a rip. And why would they? People like you really want the FBI to help the Dems - you don't see any danger at all in that. You want one-party rule. You're like a Nazi-flag waver circa 1934. 

[Caswell Thomas]

18 hours ago, CdnFox said:

At this point we know that's not true. A number of them have found to have acted on opinions and in truth altered the facts to pursue their opinions such as was the case with Trump, where some even were charged and convicted for doing so.

You are speaking of those 3 FBI agents that John Surnames investigation found who , in his very Fringe Far Right Opinion , committed crimes by investigating the apparent connection to Russia by Donald Trump? In actuality, he only got one very minor FBI research clerk to admit he made slight changes in a surveillance log, the other two ( who were actual agents) drew only dismal and very embarrassing  failures in court at even his* dismissal attempts ( * Mr. Durham) . Merritt Garland, Republican Appointee, pointed this out in his May 2023 report.  The  300 page very redundant  report that took Mr. Durham and his Trump administration committee over three years to submit , was sent unchanged to Congress who concluded Merritt Garland was correct.  

[Caswell Thomas]

Just now, Caswell Thomas said:

You are speaking of those 3 FBI agents that John Surnames investigation found who , in his very Fringe Far Right Opinion , committed crimes by investigating the apparent connection to Russia by Donald Trump? In actuality, he only got one very minor FBI research clerk to admit he made slight changes in a surveillance log, the other two ( who were actual agents) drew only dismal and very embarrassing  failures in court at even his* dismissal attempts ( * Mr. Durham) . Merritt Garland, Republican Appointee, pointed this out in his May 2023 report.  The  300 page very redundant  report that took Mr. Durham and his Trump administration committee over three years to submit , was sent unchanged to Congress who concluded Merritt Garland was correct.  

Not "Surnames"... DURHAM". The editor on this tablet obviously speaks English only as a second language. 

[Caswell Thomas]

6 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

The FBI committed crimes and told a litany of lies to start the collusion investigation and keep it going. They did that jointly with the demonrats (Hillary and her lawyer, who were working with... Russian disinformation). Those are facts, and it's just your opinion that it's not a huge deal.

It's unprecedented for any police force to conduct a raid with a media train in tow but that's exactly the FBI did when they raided Roger Stone's home. We both know that CNN crews weren't just randomly hanging out there at 5am. That was a "Russian collusion photo op". It put CNN viewers in a tizzy.

The FBI had Hunter's laptop in their possession for 11 months at the time they warned social media giants that "Russian disinformation about a Hunter laptop will be coming out". Social media banned people for talking about the laptop and used the "WUSHIN COWUZHIN" triggerword to get leftards to panic, even the NYPost was banned from social media. That was 1 month before the 2020 election. Those are all facts.

It was FBI agents who came up with the plot to kidnap Gretchen Whitmer, and they timed the arrest to be 1 month before the 2020 election. It wasn't until after the election that we found out it was an entrapment scheme. Under normal circumstances it would be a stretch to say that the FBI did that to cook up their own Oct surprise for the Dems, but they had told so many lies for the Dems and committed so many crimes with them to that point that it's the only thing that makes sense. 

The FBI arrested people for crimes that they knew about ten years ago, like Manafort's taxes. They added phony Russian collusion charges along with the real charges to keep CNN's Russian collusion boner going, but those all dried up because again - the FBI has never had a single shred of evidence of Russian collusion - but the FBI offered them reduced sentences in exchange for false testimony. 

It's not just my opinion: FISA court judge Rosemary Collyer went on record saying that the length and breadth of the FBI's lies and crimes was so ridiculous that it cast a shroud over their credibility in every court case they're involved in. 

The FBI has literally stopped pretending to be politically neutral - they just don't give a rip. And why would they? People like you really want the FBI to help the Dems - you don't see any danger at all in that. You want one-party rule. You're like a Nazi-flag waver circa 1934. 

Prove these "lies" you say the FBI committed. Otherwise you sound like a recording of Donald Trump every time he's convicted of a crime;  he immediately points fingers at every.police organization and says they are all.lying about him even when the facts of his crimes are already in the public domain, that is, easy for anyone else to.look up and verify. Of course those who.prefer to support criminal behavior would side with him. 

[CdnFox]

54 minutes ago, Caswell Thomas said:

You are speaking of those 3 FBI agents that John Surnames investigation found who , in his very Fringe Far Right Opinion , committed crimes by investigating the apparent connection to Russia by Donald Trump? In actuality, he only got one very minor FBI research clerk to admit he made slight changes in a surveillance log, the other two ( who were actual agents) drew only dismal and very embarrassing  failures in court at even his* dismissal attempts ( * Mr. Durham) . Merritt Garland, Republican Appointee, pointed this out in his May 2023 report.  The  300 page very redundant  report that took Mr. Durham and his Trump administration committee over three years to submit , was sent unchanged to Congress who concluded Merritt Garland was correct.  

"SURE THE  FBI COMMITTED CRIMES BASED ON THEIR LEFT WING IDEOLOGY IN PURSUIT OF AN INVESTIGATION BUT HEY  - IT WAS MINOR, TRUST ME". 

   Please.  What a joke. It's already been found that the fbi did not follow proper proceedure even opening the investigation against trump, that dossier was obviously "Highly suspect'.  And then you've got agents texting each other (while cheating on their spouses) about how they'll do anything to prevent turmp getting into power. 

And that's just the warm up.  There's a bunch of clearly bias activities that go on from there.

The FBI has without a doubt SUBSTANTIALLY acted from bias and person opinion. Substantially,  And i've seen nothing what soever to suggest that isn't continuing to happen. 

Especially given apologists like yourself seem to trip over themselves to excuse such behavior.

[WestCanMan]

51 minutes ago, Caswell Thomas said:

Prove these "lies" you say the FBI committed. Otherwise you sound like a recording of Donald Trump every time he's convicted of a crime;  he immediately points fingers at every.police organization and says they are all.lying about him even when the facts of his crimes are already in the public domain, that is, easy for anyone else to.look up and verify. Of course those who.prefer to support criminal behavior would side with him. 

Dude: Kevin Clinesmith, FBI, pleaded guilty to altering evidence and providing it to the FISA Court. That altered evidence was submitted multiple times in order to get warrants to spy.

Read this carefully, dummy. It's ridiculous for you to be chiming in if you don't at least know this much by now: https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-fisa-court-releases-statement-blasting-comeys-fbi-for-misconduct-providing-false-information-to-court

Rosemary Collyer, FBI judge, said this...

 

• “The FBI’s handling of the Carter Page applications, as portrayed in the OIG report, was antithetical to the heightened duty of candor described above,” Collyer continued. “1) The frequency with which representations made by FBI personnel turned out to be unsupported or 2) contradicted by information in their possession, and with which 3) they withheld information detrimental to their case, calls into question 4) whether information contained in other FBI applications is reliable. 

1) It happened a lot

2) When you say something that's contradicted by evidence in your possession, that means that you lied. SHE says that they did it a lot.

3) Withholding exculpatory evidence is a violation of the Brady LAW

4) The FBI were so incredibly unscrupulous over the case of the Russian collusion case that their reputation has been seriously tarnished, to the point where they can not be trusted. 

[WestCanMan]

I guess the fact that the judge said their statements was unsupported by their evidence is also quite damning: it means that they were fabricating. Making things up.

The FBI is a joke, like most leftists are these days. 

[Caswell Thomas]

4 hours ago, CdnFox said:

"SURE THE  FBI COMMITTED CRIMES BASED ON THEIR LEFT WING IDEOLOGY IN PURSUIT OF AN INVESTIGATION BUT HEY  - IT WAS MINOR, TRUST ME". 

   Please.  What a joke. It's already been found that the fbi did not follow proper proceedure even opening the investigation against trump, that dossier was obviously "Highly suspect'.  And then you've got agents texting each other (while cheating on their spouses) about how they'll do anything to prevent turmp getting into power. 

And that's just the warm up.  There's a bunch of clearly bias activities that go on from there.

The FBI has without a doubt SUBSTANTIALLY acted from bias and person opinion. Substantially,  And i've seen nothing what soever to suggest that isn't continuing to happen. 

Especially given apologists like yourself seem to trip over themselves to excuse such behavior.

So far all you say us hearsay, no source. I mean, other than the MAGA  Don and his children. 

[CdnFox]

12 hours ago, Caswell Thomas said:

So far all you say us hearsay, no source. I mean, other than the MAGA  Don and his children. 

Well that's not true in the slightest.  And your claim demonstrates you know you're in the wrong.  FBI agents were convicted of crimes, the report was generated that says the FBI acted inappropriately,  FBI members who werre having an affair DID exchange those texts - those are all matters of official record. Judges rulings, official reports, congress hearings -  No heresay involved.  All Verified.

So when you pretend it's all heresay - that's a lie. You know that's not true.

Here's a hint in life.  If you find you have to lie to make your point, you probably don't have a very good point. If you can't defend your position with honesty, then you should probably change your position.

[WestCanMan]

6 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Well that's not true in the slightest.  And your claim demonstrates you know you're in the wrong.  FBI agents were convicted of crimes, the report was generated that says the FBI acted inappropriately,  FBI members who werre having an affair DID exchange those texts - those are all matters of official record. Judges rulings, official reports, congress hearings -  No heresay involved.  All Verified.

So when you pretend it's all heresay - that's a lie. You know that's not true.

Here's a hint in life.  If you find you have to lie to make your point, you probably don't have a very good point. If you can't defend your position with honesty, then you should probably change your position.

It's just absurd how these guys can ignore all the facts of a topic and just keep spouting lies as if nothing ever happened. 

Caswell is actually pretending to not know about FBI lies and crimes, and he's just gonna keep plucking away at the keyboard while his head is firmly lodged in his ass. 

It's getting hard to think of these guys as human. I think we're dealing with a lot of crappy bots now. 

They're AI, but not good AI with the capability to function at or above a human level, they're the crappy AI like the ones that lose to 8 yr old kids who are just playing Fortnite for the first time.