The Dems' Long and Current Ties to Terrorist Orgs and Ant-Semitism

[Michael Hardner]

10 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

You can mention CNN as many times as you want... 

It's a strange kind of projection that happens, from people who seemingly became hypnotized by conspiracy videos the instant they saw them and started projecting that flaw onto anyone who casually watched cable and network news their whole lives because that was the main source of news..

 

[WestCanMan]

1 minute ago, impartialobserver said:

You can mention CNN as many times as you want... I just can't take you seriously.. not even the slightest.

That's just your own ignorance.

FYI I never accused you of watching CNN, I said that the internet can't disseminate lies as fast as CNN can. It's just a fact, and your feelings on the matter are irrelevant. 

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This obsession of yours tells me that your zealousness and irrationality gets in the way of you saying anything relevant. I honestly would not know if they featured this topic.. my guess is that they did but I have not deliberately watched CNN for at least 20 years.

Good for you.

That has nothing to do with the fact that CNN cheats on elections and disseminates lies faster than the whole internet. 

When you talk about the topic of election cheating, lying, and just blathering with no evidence, you're putting a bull's eye on CNN. No other person or network fits that bill as well as they do. 

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"more tailored".. if you were even the slightest bit objective, you would know that there is no way to quantify this and therefore prove that one is more than the other.

Name another network that has been caught cheating on an election?

Name any other person or org that has been caught cheating on an election, disseminates as many lies as CNN or as fast, and with less evidence....

CNN was CAUGHT CHEATING. They gave Hillary debate questions ahead of time. BUSTED! MSNBC hasn't even been accused of that, let alone caught. Nor has Fox. NBC, ABC, CBS, etc, etc, etc. 

CNN is the flagship for election lies. 

I never blamed that on you. Take a Zanex ffs. 

[WestCanMan]

1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said:

It's a strange kind of projection that happens, from people who seemingly became hypnotized by conspiracy videos the instant they saw them and started projecting that flaw onto anyone who casually watched cable and network news their whole lives because that was the main source of news..

Do you honestly think it's a conspiracy that CNN cheated on the 2016 election? 

Do you honestly think that CNN never lied about Russian collusion for 3 years? 

I'd just really love to know what qualifies as 'conspiracy' in your books. As a leftist I thought that you'd be kind of leery of using that word by now. 

[eyeball]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Is that what you want? 'cause it appears that's what you want.

But it was you who clearly alluded to a violent right-wing reaction that you've been warning about for years and I asked you to explain how the commies already took over without having to fire a single shot.  Why should anyone believe you're serious now when all the right-wing has ever done before was whine about it?

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And...we're talking about Americans with a beloved 2nd amendment here.

You're sure we're not talking about right-wingers who want to bring out their guns and start a civil war with the left everywhere?  You also mentioned Canada and Germany.  Were you thinking of inviting American 2nd Amendment folks to come here and do your killing for you?

[Nationalist]

40 minutes ago, eyeball said:

But it was you who clearly alluded to a violent right-wing reaction that you've been warning about for years and I asked you to explain how the commies already took over without having to fire a single shot.  Why should anyone believe you're serious now when all the right-wing has ever done before was whine about it?

You're sure we're not talking about right-wingers who want to bring out their guns and start a civil war with the left everywhere?  You also mentioned Canada and Germany.  Were you thinking of inviting American 2nd Amendment folks to come here and do your killing for you?

Lol...as I figured. How much respect can a man have, if he's willing to start fights but cower at the prospect.

Very little.

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Lol...as I figured. How much respect can a man have, if he's willing to start fights but cower at the prospect.

Very little.

You figure I'm the one picking the fight here? ?

 

[Nationalist]

6 hours ago, eyeball said:

You figure I'm the one picking the fight here? ?

 

Yes. You and your insane Libbie dogs. Tearing at America and destroying everything you touch. Daring good respectful people to retaliate.

[impartialobserver]

In my 15 years on online forums... it is the more Conservative posters who both talk about the possibility of a civil war more often and when pressed... most will admit that they want it. The status quo bores them... no war, no loss, no enemies, no winners/losers..

[CdnFox]

15 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

In my 15 years on online forums... it is the more Conservative posters who both talk about the possibility of a civil war more often and when pressed... most will admit that they want it. The status quo bores them... no war, no loss, no enemies, no winners/losers..

I think you need to take a look at some of the groups like blm, etc and take their position on it.  They want the same thing if not more - they just want the other side to give up right away.

[impartialobserver]

2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I think you need to take a look at some of the groups like blm, etc and take their position on it.  They want the same thing if not more - they just want the other side to give up right away.

It is my opinion that BLM does not truly wanted armed civil war. Protesting and rioting is not the same as taking up arms and wanting an all out armed civil war. 

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, impartialobserver said:

It is my opinion that BLM does not truly wanted armed civil war. Protesting and rioting is not the same as taking up arms and wanting an all out armed civil war. 

But they do.  they just prefer it to be done in other ways.  And civil riots and destruction are absolutely part of civil war.

The conservatives may prefer a stand up set piece fight while the left prefers 'geurilla warfare' and such but it's no different in the end. The radicals on both sides want the other to be hurt, crushed, gone.  Lets not split hairs over it.

[SpankyMcFarland]

I think the Democrats do have a serious problem over Israel/Palestine. The energy in the party is with young left-wing candidates like the Squad but they are being targeted by a massively funded campaign involving AIPAC and other Israel-affiliated organizations that aims to defeat them in the Democratic primaries. Last time out several critics of Israel like Donna Edwards and Andy Levin were defeated but this time they are aiming at high profile targets like Tlaib, the only Palestinian in Congress. If money brings these candidates down there will be hell to pay in the party. 

[eyeball]

7 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Yes. You and your insane Libbie dogs. Tearing at America and destroying everything you touch.

Oh, well as I pointed out we've been doing that for decades and you still haven't done anything.

7 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Daring good respectful people to retaliate.

Mocking them for decades of threatening to retaliate you mean.

[CdnFox]

57 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Oh, well as I pointed out we've been doing that for decades and you still haven't done anything.

 

So you've never heard of donald trump then?

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

I think the Democrats do have a serious problem over Israel/Palestine. The energy in the party is with young left-wing candidates like the Squad but they are being targeted by a massively funded campaign involving AIPAC and other Israel-affiliated organizations that aims to defeat them in the Democratic primaries. Last time out several critics of Israel like Donna Edwards and Andy Levin were defeated but this time they are aiming at high profile targets like Tlaib, the only Palestinian in Congress. If money brings these candidates down there will be hell to pay in the party. 

The Dems have basically made their only platform into "We're with everyone who hates whitey" and "We're fighting covid and climate change", and eventually the groups they side with always cross the Rubicon. 

BLM went to far before in the eyes of many, and now they're even supporting an actual terrorist attack, the day of... That's not a good look for the Dems as far as anyone to right of "alt-left death cult" is concerned. 

Sure, their anti-cracker sentiment has brought a lot of America-haters into the fold, but now that you've created that monster, how do you keep them happy? It's no small voting block now...

A big chunk of their base is "Black people who had their anti-whitey racism stoked" and "anti-Semites". There's no way they can lose those voting blocks and still win.

They're also losing the hispanic voters... Those guys aren't dumb enough to not notice the price of their housing, proceries and gas going up while their wages are being driven down by an influx of illegals, and their kids are being indoctrinated with anti-nuclear family propaganda now...

Newsflash Demmies: Latinos love their kids - they're not the single-mom family types that the Dems cater to. 

It's really important for the Dems' hate and divisiveness to blow up in their faces this time around...

[SpankyMcFarland]

2 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

The Dems have basically made their only platform into "We're with everyone who hates whitey" and "We're fighting covid and climate change", and eventually the groups they side with always cross the Rubicon. 

People concerned about Covid (and pandemics in general) or climate change are going to vote for Trump? 

[CdnFox]

Just now, SpankyMcFarland said:

People concerned about Covid (and pandemics in general) or climate change are going to vote for Trump? 

The guy who brought in lightspeed and delivered the vaccine?

You think they won't?

[WestCanMan]

2 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

People concerned about Covid (and pandemics in general) or climate change are going to vote for Trump? 

In reality, Trump didn't lose ground on covid. Anyone with half a brain can see that Trump did what he could. 

I don't think that voters put climate change ahead of the world at war, the massive assault on the family budget, violent anti-Semites in congress, etc.  

The Dems built their whole shtick around "we're the good guys, they're the baddies" for the last 16 years, and that is clearly not the case anymore. You can't harbour overtly violent racists who are spouting hatred & disinformation and still lay claim to the moral high ground. That ship has sailed. 

What do they re-brand themselves as? Do they go all-in with islamic bigotry now? Do they abandon the Jews? 

They're bleeding support from all of the special interest groups, and that's all they cater to... Who's left if they abandon black women by not nominating "Kamala, the girl who got down and dirty with an elderly married man to start her political career"?

I don't envy the Dems and the pickle they're in - I can see where the desperation to nail Trump comes from... 

[SpankyMcFarland]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

The guy who brought in lightspeed and delivered the vaccine?

You think they won't?

No they won’t. Trump deserves some credit for the Warp Speed program but can you look me in the eye and tell me he spoke about the pandemic in a responsible fashion from the beginning, avoided discussing ineffective treatments and promoted vaccination as vigorously as he possibly could? The message from the Biden administration was much more coherent. 

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/20/trump-vaccines-ex-aides-483387

Also bear in mind that the US has the leading biotech industry in the world. It would be deeply weird if they didn’t produce vaccines rapidly.

Here’s a review of the Trump administration’s response to Covid: 

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In the final analysis, when it comes to assessing responsibility for the avoidable failures of the federal government's COVID‐19 performance, the evidence examined here indicates that, while not responsible for everything that went wrong, President Trump was a decisive factor behind the tragically sub‐optimal US pandemic response.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9115435/

 

 

 

 

 

 

[CdnFox]

23 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

No they won’t. Trump deserves some credit for the Warp Speed program but can you look me in the eye and tell me he spoke about the pandemic in a responsible fashion.....
 

 

Doesn't matter, he did better than biden and most of the dems .  And he did get lightspeed. So there you go. and nobody cares what his ex aides were paid to say about him later.

 

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Also bear in mind that the US has the leading biotech industry in the world. It would be deeply weird if they didn’t produce vaccines rapidly.

 

There can be NO doubt at all that they did so as fast as they did because the feds made money avialble directly or by purchase order.

So - people aren't stupid. They realize they got the vaccines when they did thanks to trump.  And looking back on it with all the problems they had with dems in new york and elsewhere trump looks pretty good. That's not entirely fair, but thats the way it is. Meanwhile biden contributed absoltuely nothing of value. HE basically followed the trump planned roll out and that's it.

trump's got more pull on the covid front than biden. A lot of voters will see it that way. Trump's an 1diot but got things done, biden is a talker but failed.

[Nationalist]

6 hours ago, eyeball said:

Oh, well as I pointed out we've been doing that for decades and you still haven't done anything.

Mocking them for decades of threatening to retaliate you mean.

Well you keep mocking and tempting. I'll expect you to be happy with the consequences. 

[Hodad]

7 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

I think the Democrats do have a serious problem over Israel/Palestine. The energy in the party is with young left-wing candidates like the Squad but they are being targeted by a massively funded campaign involving AIPAC and other Israel-affiliated organizations that aims to defeat them in the Democratic primaries. Last time out several critics of Israel like Donna Edwards and Andy Levin were defeated but this time they are aiming at high profile targets like Tlaib, the only Palestinian in Congress. If money brings these candidates down there will be hell to pay in the party. 

Tlaib carried 71% of her district last year, after they already tried to tar her at anti-semitic. I don't think she's sweating this round.

[eyeball]

50 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Well you keep mocking and tempting. I'll expect you to be happy with the consequences. 

Any day now eh  ?

I doubt it'll be in my life time

[Hodad]

7 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

The Dems have basically made their only platform into "We're with everyone who hates whitey" and "We're fighting covid and climate change", and eventually the groups they side with always cross the Rubicon. 

BLM went to far before in the eyes of many, and now they're even supporting an actual terrorist attack, the day of... That's not a good look for the Dems as far as anyone to right of "alt-left death cult" is concerned. 

Sure, their anti-cracker sentiment has brought a lot of America-haters into the fold, but now that you've created that monster, how do you keep them happy? It's no small voting block now...

A big chunk of their base is "Black people who had their anti-whitey racism stoked" and "anti-Semites". There's no way they can lose those voting blocks and still win.

They're also losing the hispanic voters... Those guys aren't dumb enough to not notice the price of their housing, proceries and gas going up while their wages are being driven down by an influx of illegals, and their kids are being indoctrinated with anti-nuclear family propaganda now...

Newsflash Demmies: Latinos love their kids - they're not the single-mom family types that the Dems cater to. 

It's really important for the Dems' hate and divisiveness to blow up in their faces this time around...

This is why no one can take you seriously. Instead of disagreeing with policy or outcomes you go around posting utterly absurd shit like this.

In your twisted little mind, Democrats hate white people and create propaganda against the nuclear family, lol.

Dumb, dishonest and delusional.

Oh, and for the record almost 36% of Latino children are in households with a single parent--and it has zero to do with loving their children.?

Edited November 8, 2023 by Hodad

[SpankyMcFarland]

12 hours ago, Hodad said:

Tlaib carried 71% of her district last year, after they already tried to tar her at anti-semitic. I don't think she's sweating this round.

She’s in the strongest position, of course, which is why they didn’t challenge her last time out. Still, an AIPAC-affiliated group is spending large amounts of money against her already.

Others are much more vulnerable and their opponents’ campaigns will be given millions to beat them. At some point the party may have to put rules on this. Attitudes to a single foreign policy issue should not be a litmus test to determine who can represent the party. 
 

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/11/aipac-israel-gaza-netanyahu-mark-pocan.html

 

Edited November 8, 2023 by SpankyMcFarland