Complicit in War Crimes

[CdnFox]

28 minutes ago, Gaétan said:

Your side claims to be the most virtuous, yet you have just killed 520,000 civilians

 

They haven't. There are not 520,000 civilians dead in this conflict. There aren't even that many dead in total even if you include military on both sides.

The fact that you feel the need to lie proves that you know you're wrong

[ironstone]

1 hour ago, Gaétan said:

Your side claims to be the most virtuous, yet you have just killed 520,000 civilians

Where do those numbers come from?

[Gaétan]

5 hours ago, ironstone said:

Where do those numbers come from?

A study published in The Lancet in August 2024 estimated the death toll at 186,000 based on models resembling the current conflict, and now it is over 520,000 deaths — and even higher

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Gaétan said:

A study published in The Lancet in August 2024 estimated the death toll at 186,000 based on models resembling the current conflict, and now it is over 520,000 deaths — and even higher

So the number is made up and has no basis in reality. That's kind of pathetic

[Gaétan]

9 hours ago, CdnFox said:

So the number is made up and has no basis in reality. That's kind of pathetic

This is based on similar models. You won’t be able to hide forever the number of deaths in Gaza. The Israeli army is responsible for all crimes that may exist in a conflict.

[ironstone]

https://www.timesofisrael.com/top-hamas-official-claims-group-is-not-responsible-for-defending-gazan-civilians/

"Top Hamas official declares group is not responsible for defending Gazan civilians
Moussa Abu Marzouk says vast underground tunnel network is for the protection of the terror group’s members, while civilians should be taken care of by the UN and Israel"

"Moussa Abu Marzouk, a prominent member of Hamas’s political bureau, has declared that the terror group that rules Gaza is not responsible for protecting the Strip’s civilians, and said that the vast tunnel network underneath the enclave is only for the protection of Hamas terrorists.

In an interview with Russia Today’s Arabic channel on Friday, Abu Marzouk was asked why Hamas has dug 500 kilometers (310 miles) of tunnels in the territory it has ruled over since 2007, but has never built shelters for civilians to hide during bombings."

[Gaétan]

1 hour ago, ironstone said:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/top-hamas-official-claims-group-is-not-responsible-for-defending-gazan-civilians/

"Top Hamas official declares group is not responsible for defending Gazan civilians
Moussa Abu Marzouk says vast underground tunnel network is for the protection of the terror group’s members, while civilians should be taken care of by the UN and Israel"

"Moussa Abu Marzouk, a prominent member of Hamas’s political bureau, has declared that the terror group that rules Gaza is not responsible for protecting the Strip’s civilians, and said that the vast tunnel network underneath the enclave is only for the protection of Hamas terrorists.

In an interview with Russia Today’s Arabic channel on Friday, Abu Marzouk was asked why Hamas has dug 500 kilometers (310 miles) of tunnels in the territory it has ruled over since 2007, but has never built shelters for civilians to hide during bombings."

I do not believe that such tunnels would have been appropriate to protect the population, but rather would have been an immense tomb for them. Israel has committed genocide with the complicity of Europeans, Canada, and primarily the United States. The planet will not sustain life long enough for criminals like Netanyahu and Biden to have the chance to repent.

Edited December 18, 2025 by Gaétan

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Gaétan said:

I do not believe that such tunnels would have been appropriate to protect the population, 

Then why build them?

If it's not for the population then it must be as a base to launch terrorist attacks from. How do you explain that

[Gaétan]

8 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Then why build them?

If it's not for the population then it must be as a base to launch terrorist attacks from. How do you explain that

I think it is to hide, to conceal weapons and ammunition, supplies and water to survive, and, as you said, to launch attacks

[Gaétan]

The war in Ukraine was organized by politicians corrupted by the arms industry, simply out of love for money. Carney says that the money being sent will be used to repair damaged structures, yet as long as they have money to buy bombs, they will not want peace. They think they can recover the territories lost to the Russians, but it will be costly in lives and money — and is it even possible? The 2.5 billion that Carney is sending goes into the same bank account, and who can say that this money will not be used to buy bombs? He says this so that it looks acceptable in the eyes of public opinion, but this guy is a liar; we cannot believe what he says, and whatever he says, he was elected because the media were bribed with money to manipulate the population.

What is the purpose of this war? Will Ukrainians in the Donbass be happier calling themselves Ukrainians? Does being a Russian or Ukrainian citizen make someone happy? Does being named John or James make someone happy? If that were the case, everyone would want the same name. The Russians have no desire to take over European territories that have no value; they live off values they steal from others. And European leaders imagine they can go steal from the Russians without consequences for their own population.

Borders were dictated by kings, dictators, conquerors, thieves, and racists, and deserve no respect; therefore, they should not exist, and passports should be abolished. The planet is a collective good, and no one can claim ownership of it. The king gave lands, but that is a usurpation of property. If the devil says it belongs to him, it is because world leaders have given him that authority:

Luke 4:5–6 (Louis Segond) “The devil, having taken him up, showed him in an instant all the kingdoms of the earth, and said to him: I will give you all this power and the glory of these kingdoms; for it has been given to me, and I give it to whomever I want.”

[Venandi]

On 12/17/2025 at 1:36 PM, Gaétan said:

You work for an agency committed to spreading disinformation on this forum.

Or maybe...

[John Stone]

18 hours ago, Gaétan said:

The war in Ukraine was organized by politicians corrupted by the arms industry, simply out of love for money. Carney says that the money being sent will be used to repair damaged structures, yet as long as they have money to buy bombs, they will not want peace. They think they can recover the territories lost to the Russians, but it will be costly in lives and money — and is it even possible? The 2.5 billion that Carney is sending goes into the same bank account, and who can say that this money will not be used to buy bombs? He says this so that it looks acceptable in the eyes of public opinion, but this guy is a liar; we cannot believe what he says, and whatever he says, he was elected because the media were bribed with money to manipulate the population.

What is the purpose of this war? Will Ukrainians in the Donbass be happier calling themselves Ukrainians? Does being a Russian or Ukrainian citizen make someone happy? Does being named John or James make someone happy? If that were the case, everyone would want the same name. The Russians have no desire to take over European territories that have no value; they live off values they steal from others. And European leaders imagine they can go steal from the Russians without consequences for their own population.

Borders were dictated by kings, dictators, conquerors, thieves, and racists, and deserve no respect; therefore, they should not exist, and passports should be abolished. The planet is a collective good, and no one can claim ownership of it. The king gave lands, but that is a usurpation of property. If the devil says it belongs to him, it is because world leaders have given him that authority:

Luke 4:5–6 (Louis Segond) “The devil, having taken him up, showed him in an instant all the kingdoms of the earth, and said to him: I will give you all this power and the glory of these kingdoms; for it has been given to me, and I give it to whomever I want.”

ha ha ........... please don't be offended when I say you'd make a lousy soldier - you don't seem to 'stand' for anything substantive. 

What would you defend?

I too wish the World was the bliss that you opine about ............ but we know (yourself included) that it is not. 

So what do you do when someone comes up and punches you in the throat - call a cop? 

Figuratively that is why you have a military and people that stand the watch and make ur environment secure. 

Be grateful ........... but above all, be realistic. 

 

[Gaétan]

The Palestinian genocide is in fact an international genocide in which many countries participated, including Canada, and we learned that Biden and Trump sent bombs that were used to reduce bodies to ashes, and they completely disappeared without leaving a trace. What a horror! It is not necessary to wait until they die of old age before judging them for their crimes, and Trudeau is celebrating with a star — but with what money?

[John Johnston]

On 10/18/2023 at 12:09 PM, Army Guy said:

What are the war crimes you think Israel is guilty of...

1948: During the Nakba, 75% of the Palestinian population were forced to leave their homes to make way for the state of Israel. Over 530 Palestinian villages were ethnically cleansed and more than 70 massacres were carried out. 1956: The UN condemned Israel for at tacking Syria in ‘flagrant violation’ of the agreed ceasefire.

1962: The UN said ‘the Israel attack [on Syria] of 16-17 March 1962 constitutes a flagrant violation’ (of UN Resolution 111) and Israel must ‘refrain from such action in the future’.

1966: Israel was again condemned by the UN for attacking its neighbours. In Resolution 228 the UN ‘censured’ Israel for Resolution 228 the UN ‘censured’ Israel for its military action ‘in violation of the United Nations charter’.

1982: During the Israeli attack on Lebanon, Israeli-supported militias of the Lebanese Forces entered the refugee camps of Sabra and Shatila and massacred up to 3,500 individuals, mostly Palestinians. Ariel Sharon individuals, mostly Palestinians. Ariel Sharon was found indirectly responsible for the war crime of genocide. Sharon was later elected Prime Minister from 2001 until 2006.

1996: Israel’s occupation of southern Lebanon continued with ongoing ill-treatment and murder of Lebanese civilians under occupation. In 1996 over 100 civilians under occupation. In 1996 over 100 men, women and children were deliberately killed by Israel when taking shelter at a UN compound in Qana. Israel’s occupation of southern Lebanon continued until 2000.

2006: Israel dropped white phosphorous on civilians in Gaza. The international community has condemned Israel’s use of community has condemned Israel’s use of white phosphorous as a war crime.

For starters. 

[WestCanMan]

3 hours ago, John Johnston said:

1948: During the Nakba, 75% of the Palestinian population were forced to leave their homes to make way for the state of Israel. Over 530 Palestinian villages were ethnically cleansed and more than 70 massacres were carried out. 1956: The UN condemned Israel for at tacking Syria in ‘flagrant violation’ of the agreed ceasefire.

1962: The UN said ‘the Israel attack [on Syria] of 16-17 March 1962 constitutes a flagrant violation’ (of UN Resolution 111) and Israel must ‘refrain from such action in the future’.

1966: Israel was again condemned by the UN for attacking its neighbours. In Resolution 228 the UN ‘censured’ Israel for Resolution 228 the UN ‘censured’ Israel for its military action ‘in violation of the United Nations charter’.

1982: During the Israeli attack on Lebanon, Israeli-supported militias of the Lebanese Forces entered the refugee camps of Sabra and Shatila and massacred up to 3,500 individuals, mostly Palestinians. Ariel Sharon individuals, mostly Palestinians. Ariel Sharon was found indirectly responsible for the war crime of genocide. Sharon was later elected Prime Minister from 2001 until 2006.

1996: Israel’s occupation of southern Lebanon continued with ongoing ill-treatment and murder of Lebanese civilians under occupation. In 1996 over 100 civilians under occupation. In 1996 over 100 men, women and children were deliberately killed by Israel when taking shelter at a UN compound in Qana. Israel’s occupation of southern Lebanon continued until 2000.

2006: Israel dropped white phosphorous on civilians in Gaza. The international community has condemned Israel’s use of community has condemned Israel’s use of white phosphorous as a war crime.

For starters. 

Thanks for the cherry-picking and lies. 

FYI if there was really a "Naqba" in the 1940s it was in Pakistan in 1947, which was instantl forgiven by the entire muslim word... There were 2,000x as many Sikhs and Hindus killed as there were muslims killed in Israel in 1948.

FYI Jews were being massacred all across the ME for centuries before 1948, with zero back-and-forth. None. Jews being slaughtered constantly, never any muslims.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killings_and_massacres_during_the_1948_Palestine_war

^^Both sides were slaughtering each other in 1948^^

30 November 1947	Fajja bus attacks	Palestinian irregulars	7 Jewish people	One attack killed 5, and another killed 2
2-4 December, 1947	1947 Jerusalem riots	Palestinian rioters	8 Jews and 6 Arabs killed	[38]
11/12 Dec 1947	Attack on Balad al-Shaykh	Haganah	6 Palestinians	[39][a]
11–12 December 1947	Attack on Tirat Haifa	Irgun	13 Palestinians	[40][41]
13 December 1947	Attack on Al-'Abbasiyya / Yahudiya	Irgun	Unknown. The New York Times reported the following day that seven Palestinian villagers were killed	[42][43][44]
18 December 1947	Al-Khisas massacre	Palmach	10-15 Palestinian villagers, including 5 children	[45][46][47]
28 December 1947	Attack in Lifta	Zionist forces[b]	6-7 Palestinians	[48][49][50][51][52]
29 December 1947	Damascus Gate bombing	Irgun	15-17 Palestinians	[53][54]
30 December 1947	Attack at Haifa Oil Refinery	Irgun	6 Palestinians	Grenades thrown into a crowd of Arab workers outside the Haifa Oil Refinery. Attack precipitates the Haifa Oil Refinery massacre.
30 December 1947	Haifa Oil Refinery massacre	Mob of Palestinian workers	39-41 Jewish workers	Jewish workers of the Haifa Oil Refinery killed by Arab co-workers after Irgun bombing.
31 December 1947	Balad al-Shaykh massacre, Haifa	Palmach	Between 60 and 70 Palestinian villagers	Retaliation for the Haifa Oil Refinery massacre. The raiding unit's orders were to 'kill maximum adult males.'[55]
4 January 1948	Bombing at Jaffa 'Saraya' building	Irgun	26 Palestinians	[56][57][58]
5 January 1948	Semiramis Hotel bombing, Jerusalem	Haganah	24-26 Palestinians and 1 foreign diplomat	[59]
7 January 1948	Bomb attack at Jaffa Gate, Jerusalem	Irgun	25 Palestinians	[60]
1-2 February 1948	Bombing of The Palestine Post headquarters	British Army deserters and Palestinian irregulars	3 Jewish journalists killed, 16 injured	[61][62][63]
14-15 Feb 1948	Sa'sa' massacre, Safed	Palmach	60 Palestinian villagers	60 Arabs killed inside their houses, including small children; 16 houses were demolished. Considered a model raid by Israeli forces.[64]
22 February 1948	Ben Yehuda Street bombing, Jerusalem	British deserters and Arab irregulars	49 to 58 Jewish civilians	Killing 49 to 58 Jewish civilians and injuring 140. Arab High Command took responsibility, imploring the Jewish community to stick to the rules of war.[65][66]
3 March 1948	Car-bombing in Haifa	Lehi	11 Palestinians	[67][additional citation(s) needed]
11 March 1948	Bomb attack at Jewish Agency headquarters in Jerusalem	Arab forces	13 Jewish non-combatants	[68][69]
12–13 March 1948	Attack on al-Husayniyya, Safad	Palmach	15 Palestinian villagers per Walid Khalidi[70]	Attack by Palmach's Third Battalion.[71][c]
16–17 March 1948	Attack on al-Husayniyya, Safad	Palmach	Unknown. Estimates range from "dozens" to 30+	Attack by Palmach's Third Battalion.[d]
31 March 1948	Cairo–Haifa train bombing	Lehi	40 Palestinians killed, 60 injured	[72]
9 April 1948	Deir Yassin massacre, Jerusalem	Irgun and Lehi, supported by Palmach	107-140 Palestinian villagers
12 April 1948	Attack on Nasr al-Din	Golani Brigade	Unknown. At least 12-20 Palestinians	[73][74]
13 April 1948	Hadassah medical convoy massacre, Jerusalem	Arab forces	79 Jewish doctors, nurses, members of Haganah and scientists and 1 British soldier.	Arab retaliation for the Deir Yassin massacre.[75]
15 April 1948	Haifa car bombing	Arab terrorist [clarification needed]	6 Jews and 2 British killed.	[76][better source needed]
21–22 April 1948	Battle of Haifa	Haganah	Unknown number of Palestinians, Jon Kimche wrote that "the actual number of Arab casualties in the fighting in Haifa on April 21st and 22nd was about 300 killed."[77][e]	[78]
2 May 1948	Ein al-Zeitun massacre, Safed	Palmach	70+ Palestinian villagers	Ein al-Zeitun completely depopulated after the Palmach captured the village.[79]
4 May 1948	Killings at Kafr 'Ana	Haganah	10 Palestinians	[80]
12–13 May 1948	Attack on Burayr	Palmach	50 Palestinians	[81][82] [83]
13 May 1948	Kfar Etzion massacre, Hebron	Arab forces	157 Jewish residents and Haganah soldiers	[84][85]
13–19 May 1948	Abu Shusha massacre, Ramle	Givati Brigade	60-70 Palestinian villagers	In 1995, a mass grave near the site with 52 bodies was unearthed.[86]
19 May 1948	1948 Tel Aviv bus station bombing, Tel Aviv	Egyptian Air Force	42	100 people were wounded and 42 killed in an attack on a bus station.
20 May 1948	Al-Kabri massacre	Carmeli Brigade	At least 7 Palestinian villagers killed	[87]
22 May 1948	Tantura massacre	Haganah, Alexandroni Brigade	Unknown. Estimates range from "dozens" to 200+
~10-12 July 1948	Attack on Lydda and Ramle	3rd Battalion of the IDF	Unknown. Estimates range from hundreds to 1,000+[f][g][88]
15 July 1948	Israeli bombing of Cairo	IDF, 69 Squadron	30 Egyptian civilians	Carried out during the break of fast during Ramadan.[89][better source needed]
2 September 1948	Attack on Hunin	Palmach	20 Palestinian villagers	[90][91]
28 October 1948	Al-Dawayima massacre, Hebron	IDF, 89th Commando Battalion, with former Irgun, and Lehi members.	80 to 200 Palestinians	News of the massacre was suppressed by both Israeli (to prevent UN scrutiny) and Arab forces (in order to prevent morale from collapsing as it did after the Deir Yassin massacre).[92]
29 October 1948	Safsaf massacre, Safed	7th Armored Brigade	52-70 Palestinian villagers	Between 52 and 70 Arab men shot, killed, and burned in a pit. Several women were raped.[47]
29 October 1948	Jish massacre	IDF	Unknown number of Palestinians	[93][94]
30 October 1948	Saliha massacre, Safed	7th Armoured Brigade	60-70 Palestinians	Village completely depopulated.[95]
30 October 1948	Eilabun massacre, Tiberias	Golani Brigade's 12th Battalion	14 Palestinian villagers	13 were executed, 11 from Eilabun (Christians) and 2 refugees (Muslims). Massacre was documented by the UN.[96]
30 October 1948	Sa'sa' massacre, Safed	IDF	Unknown number of Palestinians	[97][98][99]
31 October 1948	Hula massacre, Lebanon	Carmeli Brigade	35-58 Arab villagers	Hula was captured without resistance. The commander, first lieutenant Shmuel Lahis, was given seven years in jail for his role in the incident but served only one.[100]
2 November 1948	Arab al-Mawasi massacre, Tiberias	IDF	14 Arab Bedouin men	15 Bedouin men from Khirbat al-Wa'ra al-Sawda' taken near Eilabun and shot. One survived.[47] Village was completely obliterated.
5 November 1948	Majd al-Kurum massacre, Galilee	IDF	9 Palestinians	[81][101]

Get up to a basic level of understanding before you run propaganda from your idjit mouth. 

Edited February 12 by WestCanMan

[John Johnston]

15 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Thanks for the cherry-picking and lies. 

FYI if there was really a "Naqba" in the 1940s it was in Pakistan in 1947, which was instantl forgiven by the entire muslim word... There were 2,000x as many Sikhs and Hindus killed as there were muslims killed in Israel in 1948.

FYI Jews were being massacred all across the ME for centuries before 1948, with zero back-and-forth. None. Jews being slaughtered constantly, never any muslims.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killings_and_massacres_during_the_1948_Palestine_war

^^Both sides were slaughtering each other in 1948^^

30 November 1947	Fajja bus attacks	Palestinian irregulars	7 Jewish people	One attack killed 5, and another killed 2
2-4 December, 1947	1947 Jerusalem riots	Palestinian rioters	8 Jews and 6 Arabs killed	[38]
11/12 Dec 1947	Attack on Balad al-Shaykh	Haganah	6 Palestinians	[39][a]
11–12 December 1947	Attack on Tirat Haifa	Irgun	13 Palestinians	[40][41]
13 December 1947	Attack on Al-'Abbasiyya / Yahudiya	Irgun	Unknown. The New York Times reported the following day that seven Palestinian villagers were killed	[42][43][44]
18 December 1947	Al-Khisas massacre	Palmach	10-15 Palestinian villagers, including 5 children	[45][46][47]
28 December 1947	Attack in Lifta	Zionist forces[b]	6-7 Palestinians	[48][49][50][51][52]
29 December 1947	Damascus Gate bombing	Irgun	15-17 Palestinians	[53][54]
30 December 1947	Attack at Haifa Oil Refinery	Irgun	6 Palestinians	Grenades thrown into a crowd of Arab workers outside the Haifa Oil Refinery. Attack precipitates the Haifa Oil Refinery massacre.
30 December 1947	Haifa Oil Refinery massacre	Mob of Palestinian workers	39-41 Jewish workers	Jewish workers of the Haifa Oil Refinery killed by Arab co-workers after Irgun bombing.
31 December 1947	Balad al-Shaykh massacre, Haifa	Palmach	Between 60 and 70 Palestinian villagers	Retaliation for the Haifa Oil Refinery massacre. The raiding unit's orders were to 'kill maximum adult males.'[55]
4 January 1948	Bombing at Jaffa 'Saraya' building	Irgun	26 Palestinians	[56][57][58]
5 January 1948	Semiramis Hotel bombing, Jerusalem	Haganah	24-26 Palestinians and 1 foreign diplomat	[59]
7 January 1948	Bomb attack at Jaffa Gate, Jerusalem	Irgun	25 Palestinians	[60]
1-2 February 1948	Bombing of The Palestine Post headquarters	British Army deserters and Palestinian irregulars	3 Jewish journalists killed, 16 injured	[61][62][63]
14-15 Feb 1948	Sa'sa' massacre, Safed	Palmach	60 Palestinian villagers	60 Arabs killed inside their houses, including small children; 16 houses were demolished. Considered a model raid by Israeli forces.[64]
22 February 1948	Ben Yehuda Street bombing, Jerusalem	British deserters and Arab irregulars	49 to 58 Jewish civilians	Killing 49 to 58 Jewish civilians and injuring 140. Arab High Command took responsibility, imploring the Jewish community to stick to the rules of war.[65][66]
3 March 1948	Car-bombing in Haifa	Lehi	11 Palestinians	[67][additional citation(s) needed]
11 March 1948	Bomb attack at Jewish Agency headquarters in Jerusalem	Arab forces	13 Jewish non-combatants	[68][69]
12–13 March 1948	Attack on al-Husayniyya, Safad	Palmach	15 Palestinian villagers per Walid Khalidi[70]	Attack by Palmach's Third Battalion.[71][c]
16–17 March 1948	Attack on al-Husayniyya, Safad	Palmach	Unknown. Estimates range from "dozens" to 30+	Attack by Palmach's Third Battalion.[d]
31 March 1948	Cairo–Haifa train bombing	Lehi	40 Palestinians killed, 60 injured	[72]
9 April 1948	Deir Yassin massacre, Jerusalem	Irgun and Lehi, supported by Palmach	107-140 Palestinian villagers
12 April 1948	Attack on Nasr al-Din	Golani Brigade	Unknown. At least 12-20 Palestinians	[73][74]
13 April 1948	Hadassah medical convoy massacre, Jerusalem	Arab forces	79 Jewish doctors, nurses, members of Haganah and scientists and 1 British soldier.	Arab retaliation for the Deir Yassin massacre.[75]
15 April 1948	Haifa car bombing	Arab terrorist [clarification needed]	6 Jews and 2 British killed.	[76][better source needed]
21–22 April 1948	Battle of Haifa	Haganah	Unknown number of Palestinians, Jon Kimche wrote that "the actual number of Arab casualties in the fighting in Haifa on April 21st and 22nd was about 300 killed."[77][e]	[78]
2 May 1948	Ein al-Zeitun massacre, Safed	Palmach	70+ Palestinian villagers	Ein al-Zeitun completely depopulated after the Palmach captured the village.[79]
4 May 1948	Killings at Kafr 'Ana	Haganah	10 Palestinians	[80]
12–13 May 1948	Attack on Burayr	Palmach	50 Palestinians	[81][82] [83]
13 May 1948	Kfar Etzion massacre, Hebron	Arab forces	157 Jewish residents and Haganah soldiers	[84][85]
13–19 May 1948	Abu Shusha massacre, Ramle	Givati Brigade	60-70 Palestinian villagers	In 1995, a mass grave near the site with 52 bodies was unearthed.[86]
19 May 1948	1948 Tel Aviv bus station bombing, Tel Aviv	Egyptian Air Force	42	100 people were wounded and 42 killed in an attack on a bus station.
20 May 1948	Al-Kabri massacre	Carmeli Brigade	At least 7 Palestinian villagers killed	[87]
22 May 1948	Tantura massacre	Haganah, Alexandroni Brigade	Unknown. Estimates range from "dozens" to 200+
~10-12 July 1948	Attack on Lydda and Ramle	3rd Battalion of the IDF	Unknown. Estimates range from hundreds to 1,000+[f][g][88]
15 July 1948	Israeli bombing of Cairo	IDF, 69 Squadron	30 Egyptian civilians	Carried out during the break of fast during Ramadan.[89][better source needed]
2 September 1948	Attack on Hunin	Palmach	20 Palestinian villagers	[90][91]
28 October 1948	Al-Dawayima massacre, Hebron	IDF, 89th Commando Battalion, with former Irgun, and Lehi members.	80 to 200 Palestinians	News of the massacre was suppressed by both Israeli (to prevent UN scrutiny) and Arab forces (in order to prevent morale from collapsing as it did after the Deir Yassin massacre).[92]
29 October 1948	Safsaf massacre, Safed	7th Armored Brigade	52-70 Palestinian villagers	Between 52 and 70 Arab men shot, killed, and burned in a pit. Several women were raped.[47]
29 October 1948	Jish massacre	IDF	Unknown number of Palestinians	[93][94]
30 October 1948	Saliha massacre, Safed	7th Armoured Brigade	60-70 Palestinians	Village completely depopulated.[95]
30 October 1948	Eilabun massacre, Tiberias	Golani Brigade's 12th Battalion	14 Palestinian villagers	13 were executed, 11 from Eilabun (Christians) and 2 refugees (Muslims). Massacre was documented by the UN.[96]
30 October 1948	Sa'sa' massacre, Safed	IDF	Unknown number of Palestinians	[97][98][99]
31 October 1948	Hula massacre, Lebanon	Carmeli Brigade	35-58 Arab villagers	Hula was captured without resistance. The commander, first lieutenant Shmuel Lahis, was given seven years in jail for his role in the incident but served only one.[100]
2 November 1948	Arab al-Mawasi massacre, Tiberias	IDF	14 Arab Bedouin men	15 Bedouin men from Khirbat al-Wa'ra al-Sawda' taken near Eilabun and shot. One survived.[47] Village was completely obliterated.
5 November 1948	Majd al-Kurum massacre, Galilee	IDF	9 Palestinians	[81][101]

Get up to a basic level of understanding before you run propaganda from your idjit mouth. 

Israel tends to make its own wine. 

[I am Groot]

On 12/17/2025 at 10:55 PM, Gaétan said:

A study published in The Lancet in August 2024 estimated the death toll at 186,000 based on models resembling the current conflict, and now it is over 520,000 deaths — and even higher

That would mean a quarter of the population was dead. There'd be bodies everywhere, on every street. There is absolutely no indication oft his, nor do the Palestinians claim it. Your study and its models are deeply flawed by the jew hating ideologues who conducted it.

[I am Groot]

On 12/15/2025 at 8:26 PM, Gaétan said:

Everything is destroyed in Gaza, and they keep saying Hamas was there every time. I don’t have time to waste arguing with former soldiers paid by agencies

Everything was destroyed in Berlin too, and Tokyo. That's what happens when you fight a war and lose and refuse to surrender, you barely literate imbecile. 

[I am Groot]

On 2/12/2026 at 9:59 AM, Gaétan said:

The Palestinian genocide is in fact an 

invention of Iran and Qatar and Jew-haters in the West, and has no basis in reality.

 

[Gaétan]

4 hours ago, I am Groot said:

That would mean a quarter of the population was dead. There'd be bodies everywhere, on every street. There is absolutely no indication oft his, nor do the Palestinians claim it. Your study and its models are deeply flawed by the jew hating ideologues who conducted it.

Trump and Biden sent you bombs that turn bodies into ashes and make them disappear, and the rubble wasn’t searched, and many people died from lack of medical care, famine, and water.

[I am Groot]

18 hours ago, Gaétan said:

Trump and Biden sent you bombs that turn bodies into ashes and make them disappear, and the rubble wasn’t searched, and many people died from lack of medical care, famine, and water.

You're a babbling lunatic. 

Is this you? This is who I imagine is behind your posts.

 

Edited February 14 by I am Groot

[Gaétan]

The protest against the Iranian regime in Toronto was probably organized by cia influencers with the aim of causing a million deaths in Iran, just as in Iraq, and fomented by politicians corrupted by the arms industry.

[WestCanMan]

On 2/13/2026 at 2:33 AM, John Johnston said:

Israel tends to make its own wine. 

Oh look, ayatollah cuck #2 chose to ignore all of the facts and just make a bigoted comment instead. 

Cheers, John Bigot Johnstone.

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Gaétan said:

The protest against the Iranian regime in Toronto was probably organized by cia influencers with the aim of causing a million deaths in Iran, just as in Iraq, and fomented by politicians corrupted by the arms industry.

1) Anti-ICE protesters actually are paid by the DNC and their main donors. The ICE riots are bought and paid for - that is not in doubt. Do you denounce the anti-ICE riots like you do the riots against religious oppression in Iran? Tell me Gaetan, who is harder on protesters: ICE or the Ayatollah? Which one of them is really "fascist" 😂

2) The ayatollah has money for:

• Hamas bombs and terrorist attacks
• Hamas "hero pensions" for the people who died while trying to commit genocide against Israel
• terrorists all over the world
• bullets to kill Iranian protesters
• NO MONEY FOR FOOD FOR THEIR PEOPLE

All the ayatollah cucks here call ICE murderers for protecting themselves when they're hit by cars, but you LOVE seeing the Iranian regime slaughter protesters. You LOVE seeing the ayatollah massacre people, Gaetan. That's why you defend that massacre.

Just think about the optics, Gaetan: you're cheering at seeing tens of thousands of people getting murdered for protesting against violent religious bigotry. 

Hell is working on a new hole for people like you. 

[WestCanMan]

On 12/17/2025 at 7:55 PM, Gaétan said:

A study published in The Lancet in August 2024 estimated the death toll at 186,000 based on models resembling the current conflict, and now it is over 520,000 deaths — and even higher

That study ignores the millions of texts and phone calls and leaflets from the Israelis, warning civilians that Hamas targets near them were about to be destroyed.

The terrorist/civilian death rate was astronomically high in Gaza compared to any other war of equal devastation, because the Israelis were so good at minimizing civilian casualties.

And remember, the Israelis managed to keep civlian casualties down while muslim nations all around Gaza refused to allow any Gazans to flee that war zone. Imagine that... All around Gaza, all those muslim countries just said "Stay in that war zone and die - we need your deaths to help foment more hatred."

Even Hamas estimated that roughly 70% of the dead were members of Hamas, because that's the percentage of dead that they had to give hero pensions out for. That's their own estimate of the number of deaths, and their own stated number of hero pensions given to active members.   

Edited February 16 by WestCanMan