Army Guy Posted October 10, 2023 Report Posted October 10, 2023 2 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: I saw a horrible blurred video in which an apparent Hamas terrorist is shouting God is great in Arabic and slowly beheading an apparent Israeli child and then waving his separated head. I can't believe even the terrorists or muslim fanatics would go this far. Is this real or propaganda? Thats becasue they are not human, nor do they follow Islamic religion, or any religion for that matter...these are animals that are only interested in killing... they are nothing more than rabid dogs....that need to be put down...This was normal practice in Iraq and Afghanistan... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted October 10, 2023 Report Posted October 10, 2023 1 hour ago, herbie said: That BBC is now reporting the terrorists did in fact outright murder children in their attack, I'd give that some credibility over something posted on the Net that people can't check out themselves. I regret the miserable live of the average Palestinian, but 76 years of shouting "Death to Israel" and non stop terrorist attacks draws very little sympathy for them. Do themselves a favour and kill their own Hamas leaders instead. Better buckle up becasue it is just going to get worse, more children slaughtered, this time babies... This was the glorification of the mass murder of children, such as the 40 dead babies discovered at the Kfar Aza kibbutz in southern Israel. John Ivison: Tolerating the glorification of terror and slaughter is societal suicide (msn.com) Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
BeaverFever Posted October 11, 2023 Report Posted October 11, 2023 13 hours ago, Nationalist said: It's the best solution in this case. I'm not surprised you can't separate the 2 though. Nice try. Explain to my why war in your opinion is the best option in this case but not in Russia’s case. Russia and Hamas are at the very least indirect allies as evidenced by the return of the actual Russian internet trolls cheering for Hamas amd Russia has ling history of supporting anti-western terrorists, including offering Afghan terrorists a bounty ro kill US troops Quote
ironstone Posted October 11, 2023 Report Posted October 11, 2023 17 hours ago, eyeball said: Give their shields the lands and space they need to spread out and place themselves at a safer distance. All of Israel? Would that satisfy the bloodlust? Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
ironstone Posted October 11, 2023 Report Posted October 11, 2023 If You Don't Want Blame For Appeasing Hamas, Stop Doing It (thefederalist.com) There will be much more to say on the heart-wrenching massacre in Israel, the worst attack on Jewish civilians since the Holocaust and one of the most heinous acts of terror in decades. Right now, though, many on the left seem upset that conservatives are pointing out that the last two Democratic administrations have appeased and funded the terror states responsible for the attack that has killed hundreds, if not thousands, of Israelis and at least four nine Americans. There is, most obviously, Joe Biden’s recent $6 billion gift to the mullahs. “Not a single cent from these funds has been spent, and when it is spent, it can only be spent on things like food and medicine for the Iranian people,” a White House National Security Council spokeswoman said. This pathetic and pedantic deflection was repeated endlessly by the president’s defenders. Even a child understands the concept of fungibility. It is true that Hamas didn’t spend that exact funding on their terror proxies. Islamic fascists, like everyone else, make fiscal plans with an eye on future earnings and spending. And the hostage-taking business happens to be booming. Quote "Socialism in general has a record of failure so blatant that only an intellectual could ignore or evade it." Thomas Sowell
athos Posted October 11, 2023 Report Posted October 11, 2023 (edited) On 10/10/2023 at 6:10 AM, Army Guy said: I think You underestimate the Israelis army and it's capacity to wage war, i would like to hear your speaker in the above video speak after ground operations get going in Gaza, and up in the north with Lebanon, to see if his opinion changes...This is not the first or the last time Israel has faced much larger threats and been victorious i guess your speaker forgot about those times....This time both terrorist parties have kicked the hornets nest over and they will pay a steep price for that action. On the contrary, I do not underestimate anyone. Also no one is "my speaker". This is just another opinion that may differ from yours and the mainstream media narrative. Sometimes it is good to listen to experts in the field of global politics for example like this one. "The illusion of glory in war is but a fleeting dream. It is those who have never experienced the horrors of battle, the anguished cries of the wounded, who clamor for more conflict, more retribution, further devastation. War is a profound abyss of suffering. Above all, it is the soldier who yearns most fervently for peace, for it is they who endure the gravest injuries and carry the enduring scars of conflict within their souls". "Never negotiate out of fear; but never fear to negotiate." - JFK Edited October 11, 2023 by athos Quote
Nationalist Posted October 11, 2023 Author Report Posted October 11, 2023 51 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Nice try. Explain to my why war in your opinion is the best option in this case but not in Russia’s case. Russia and Hamas are at the very least indirect allies as evidenced by the return of the actual Russian internet trolls cheering for Hamas amd Russia has ling history of supporting anti-western terrorists, including offering Afghan terrorists a bounty ro kill US troops Here's your "Russian internet trolls cheering for Hamas". https://nypost.com/2023/10/07/aoc-ilhan-omar-and-squad-members-criticized-over-call-for-ceasefire-in-israel/ Must you be such a twerp? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
BeaverFever Posted October 11, 2023 Report Posted October 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Nationalist said: Here's your "Russian internet trolls cheering for Hamas". https://nypost.com/2023/10/07/aoc-ilhan-omar-and-squad-members-criticized-over-call-for-ceasefire-in-israel/ Must you be such a twerp? Yeah so? She didn’t cheer for Hamas. She just chose the wrong time to criticize Israel. Your beloved Putin trolls are acting cheering on Hamas. Quote
Nationalist Posted October 11, 2023 Author Report Posted October 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Yeah so? She didn’t cheer for Hamas. She just chose the wrong time to criticize Israel. Your beloved Putin trolls are acting cheering on Hamas. Lol...you really are a perma-twerp. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
eyeball Posted October 11, 2023 Report Posted October 11, 2023 55 minutes ago, ironstone said: All of Israel? Would that satisfy the bloodlust? Probably not Hamas' but I was talking about their shields. Do you draw your conclusions on the basis that Hamas and Palestinians are all one and the same thing - all of a same mind? Did you know that nearly half the population of Gaza is under the age of 15? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Nationalist Posted October 11, 2023 Author Report Posted October 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: Probably not Hamas' but I was talking about their shields. Do you draw your conclusions on the basis that Hamas and Palestinians are all one and the same thing - all of a same mind? Did you know that nearly half the population of Gaza is under the age of 15? Indeed. So their parents elected Hamas in Gaza. Tragic...just tragic. But...they are now the walking dead...thanks to their mommies and daddies. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
eyeball Posted October 11, 2023 Report Posted October 11, 2023 19 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Indeed. So their parents elected Hamas in Gaza. Tragic...just tragic. But...they are now the walking dead...thanks to their mommies and daddies. 58% of the parents in Gaza and only 42% in the West Bank elected them and I suspect recent events will diminish this far from universal support by a substantial amount. Piles of dead Gazan kids will do the same thing to Israel. Moderates on both sides will one day leave their extremes behind and find a better way forward. The path to enlightenment is painful and it's only a matter of time before the pain is too much to bear. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Nationalist Posted October 11, 2023 Author Report Posted October 11, 2023 33 minutes ago, eyeball said: 58% of the parents in Gaza and only 42% in the West Bank elected them and I suspect recent events will diminish this far from universal support by a substantial amount. Piles of dead Gazan kids will do the same thing to Israel. Moderates on both sides will one day leave their extremes behind and find a better way forward. The path to enlightenment is painful and it's only a matter of time before the pain is too much to bear. Lol...what weak drivel. Sure...come kill kids. Rape girls. Drag women through the streets. We're "enlightened" and understand your pain. Weak drivel. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CITIZEN_2015 Posted October 11, 2023 Report Posted October 11, 2023 1 hour ago, eyeball said: 58% of the parents in Gaza and only 42% in the West Bank elected them and I suspect recent events will diminish this far from universal support by a substantial amount. Piles of dead Gazan kids will do the same thing to Israel. Moderates on both sides will one day leave their extremes behind and find a better way forward. The path to enlightenment is painful and it's only a matter of time before the pain is too much to bear. Yes eventually the human race will evolve and will become advanced enough to put aside hate and war and live in peace and harmony regardless of race, religion, nationality, orientation and stop killing humans and animals but that day is far beyond my life and I suspect even beyond the lives of the children that I don't yet have or my grandchildren even. Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted October 11, 2023 Report Posted October 11, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Army Guy said: Thats becasue they are not human, nor do they follow Islamic religion, or any religion for that matter...these are animals that are only interested in killing... they are nothing more than rabid dogs....that need to be put down...This was normal practice in Iraq and Afghanistan... Well I am not so sure. This could be part of Arab culture 1400 years ago. When the Muslim army invaded they killed many and raped women and children. They were war reoperation in that religion, I think,. But beheading children it was never done before. Even ISIS did not go this far to my knowledge. Edited October 11, 2023 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote
BeaverFever Posted October 11, 2023 Report Posted October 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: Lol...you really are a perma-twerp. Once again you reply with nothing but Name-calling You might as well just waive a white flag. Quote
eyeball Posted October 11, 2023 Report Posted October 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: Weak drivel. I'm quite sure every self-respecting extremist would agree. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
BeaverFever Posted October 11, 2023 Report Posted October 11, 2023 17 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: I saw that even Fox put an editorial comment in their reporting to discount the baseless claim that the money was somehow diverted quickly for this reason. We're at the point of democracy where rumors and lies are the number one talking point. Fox is scared straight by the billion dollar lawsuits its faced over its past reporting lies. Let’s see how long that lasts 1 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted October 11, 2023 Report Posted October 11, 2023 5 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Fox is scared straight by the billion dollar lawsuits its faced over its past reporting lies. Let’s see how long that lasts Money has a long memory. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Nationalist Posted October 11, 2023 Author Report Posted October 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: Money has a long memory. Especially Blackrock money. Blackrock now owns over 15% of Fox. Between them and Vangaurd, they own 18% of Fox. Blackrock also owns 12% of Disney and 12% of CNN. It's all now just propaganda. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted October 11, 2023 Author Report Posted October 11, 2023 8 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Once again you reply with nothing but Name-calling You might as well just waive a white flag. Beave...it will be a cold day in Hell before I surrender the truth to the likes of you. That deplorable Libbie squad has always shat upon Israel. Personally, I could have cared less. But Israel now has every reason to utterly destroy Gaza... And IMO...they should. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
BeaverFever Posted October 11, 2023 Report Posted October 11, 2023 3 hours ago, Nationalist said: Beave...it will be a cold day in Hell before I surrender the truth to the likes of you. That deplorable Libbie squad has always shat upon Israel. Personally, I could have cared less. But Israel now has every reason to utterly destroy Gaza... And IMO...they should. So you admit you’re a “warmonger” and a hypocrite because you made it clear on the Ukraine thread that you believe anyone who doesn’t unilaterally surrender in the me of immediate peace at any cost is a warmonger. Russians have raped and massacred a lot more people in Ukraine than Hamas did in its recent attack. Quote
Nationalist Posted October 11, 2023 Author Report Posted October 11, 2023 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: So you admit you’re a “warmonger” and a hypocrite because you made it clear on the Ukraine thread that you believe anyone who doesn’t unilaterally surrender in the me of immediate peace at any cost is a warmonger. Russians have raped and massacred a lot more people in Ukraine than Hamas did in its recent attack. I didn't say that at all Tweenkie-Poo. The 2 situations are completely different. For one thing, The Russians of the eastern regions did not attack Ukraine. It was the other way around. Thuds, in order for these 2 situations to be alike, the Israelis would have had to attack Gaza to start this war. No kidding man...you really have a serious issue with ideas that span more than an elementary level. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CITIZEN_2015 Posted October 11, 2023 Report Posted October 11, 2023 Israel is going after the weak which is one of the legs of an Octopus whose head is the Islamic Republic of Iran regime. Go after the head not just a weak leg if you have courage. Cutting a leg alone will cure nothing. The leg will grow back in another form/ Quote
Nationalist Posted October 11, 2023 Author Report Posted October 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: Israel is going after the weak which is one of the legs of an Octopus whose head is the Islamic Republic of Iran regime. Go after the head not just a weak leg if you have courage. Cutting a leg alone will cure nothing. The leg will grow back in another form/ Not that I doubt Iran had something to do with this Hamas attack but, do you have proof that Iran was behind it all? Just wondering? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
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