ChatGPT Has Liberal Bias, Say Researchers

[CdnFox]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/emmawoollacott/2023/08/17/chatgpt-has-liberal-bias-say-researchers/?sh=64fc32d969c2

So it turns out taht if you take something that can't think for itself, and expose it to ideas that it can't analyze independently, and it just spouts out a version of all of the nonsense it's heard but hasn't verified itself....  what you get is a liberal 

Wow.  I'm shocked. Are you shocked? I was shocked.   

[eyeball]

Given the evolution of social structure in nature I'd say the universe itself has a left wing bias.

[Aristides]

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Some models developed by Meta, on the other hand, such as LLaMA and RoBERTa, were comparatively right-wing authoritarian. The University of East Anglia tool—which the researchers say will be relatively simple for the public to use—will be made freely available. OpenAI has been contacted for comment.

So people will just gravitate to the platform that fits their own bias. Like they do now.

[Deluge]

7 hours ago, CdnFox said:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/emmawoollacott/2023/08/17/chatgpt-has-liberal-bias-say-researchers/?sh=64fc32d969c2

So it turns out taht if you take something that can't think for itself, and expose it to ideas that it can't analyze independently, and it just spouts out a version of all of the nonsense it's heard but hasn't verified itself....  what you get is a liberal 

Wow.  I'm shocked. Are you shocked? I was shocked.   

I'm not shocked - I'm not even mildly surprised. Leftism has been infecting the West for decades; its taint is everywhere. 

[Aristides]

19 minutes ago, Deluge said:

I'm not shocked - I'm not even mildly surprised. Leftism has been infecting the West for decades; its taint is everywhere. 

Don't despair, the article says there are right wing AI platforms for you too.

[Deluge]

3 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Don't despair, the article says there are right wing AI platforms for you too.

Who's despairing? I'm not even mildly concerned. 

I use Open AI on a fairly regular basis. It's excellent for banging out redundant tasks. 

Edited August 18, 2023 by Deluge

[I am Groot]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Given the evolution of social structure in nature I'd say the universe itself has a left wing bias.

Given nature is a winner-take-all sort of place, where the strongest survive and the weak, lame, and sick are eaten, I'd say you're quite mistaken.

8 hours ago, CdnFox said:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/emmawoollacott/2023/08/17/chatgpt-has-liberal-bias-say-researchers/?sh=64fc32d969c2

So it turns out taht if you take something that can't think for itself, and expose it to ideas that it can't analyze independently, and it just spouts out a version of all of the nonsense it's heard but hasn't verified itself....  what you get is a liberal 

Wow.  I'm shocked. Are you shocked? I was shocked.   

GIGO

The first AIs showed signs of 'racism' according to the horrified media, and were adjusted accordingly.

[CdnFox]

51 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

Given nature is a winner-take-all sort of place, where the strongest survive and the weak, lame, and sick are eaten, I'd say you're quite mistaken.

GIGO

The first AIs showed signs of 'racism' according to the horrified media, and were adjusted accordingly.

well despite their claims the left is also pretty racist. So that tracks.

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

Given nature is a winner-take-all sort of place, where the strongest survive and the weak, lame, and sick are eaten, I'd say you're quite mistaken.

Given the survival strategy of the weak, lame and sick is to organize themselves into societies I'd say I'm quite correct.

[impartialobserver]

A lot of subjectivity in this article.. asking ChatGPT to replicate a moving target is going to lead to bias. Now, ask ChatGPT how to do something in R, Python, SQL, Excel, etc. and there is no bias. Why? There is no subjectivity.. There is an exact answer. 

[CdnFox]

37 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Given the survival strategy of the weak, lame and sick is to organize themselves into societies I'd say I'm quite correct.

That is not the survival strategy of the wild.  That is the survival strategy of the unions.  Thats not the same.

In the wild the societies use the weak lame and sick as offerings to the predators while they run away.

[WestCanMan]

4 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Given nature is a winner-take-all sort of place, where the strongest survive and the weak, lame, and sick are eaten, I'd say you're quite mistaken.

GIGO

The first AIs showed signs of 'racism' according to the horrified media, and were adjusted accordingly.

So AI is going to discriminate against Asians like leftists do now? 

Doesn't compute. They obviously made it ?

Edited August 18, 2023 by WestCanMan

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

So AI is going to discriminate against Asians like leftists do now? 

Doesn't compute. They obviously made it ?

I just asked an AI if it was prejudiced against asians, and it said "I appologize for the confusion, but as an AI  i do not have prejudices towards anyone, Gweilo.

Soooo - kind of a good news bad news thing...

[WestCanMan]

5 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I just asked an AI if it was prejudiced against asians, and it said "I appologize for the confusion, but as an AI  i do not have prejudices towards anyone, Gweilo.

Soooo - kind of a good news bad news thing...

Gweilo?

Is that a racist slang that AI uses? 

[eyeball]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

That is not the survival strategy of the wild.  That is the survival strategy of the unions.  Thats not the same.

In the wild the societies use the weak lame and sick as offerings to the predators while they run away.

That's just plain silly.

What did unions evolve from?

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, eyeball said:

That's just plain silly.

Facts of nature often are so.   I would refer you to the platypus.

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What did unions evolve from?

The closest living relative would appear to be the Jackass

 

(and thanks for the straight man set ups )

[eyeball]

In any case, the ability to develop socially was clearly our most successful adaptation.

That nature also selected social development for so many other species underscores the idea that nature is inherently progressive.

[CdnFox]

Just now, eyeball said:

In any case, the ability to develop socially was clearly our most successful adaptation.

 

Well you'd have to make that case.  It's not really 'clear' at all. There's a lot of very successful creatures that don't develop societies. And ones that do which aren't all that successful.

 It's "AN' adaption but our best? I would think intelligence or opposing digits would take that.

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That nature also selected social development for so many other species underscores the idea that nature is inherently progressive.

Hogwash.  "Nature" didn't choose it for just about as many as it did. So what nature tells us is you can pull it off either way really.

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Well you'd have to make that case.  It's not really 'clear' at all. There's a lot of very successful creatures that don't develop societies. And ones that do which aren't all that successful.

Feel free to point out others that have succeeded well enough they can build space telescopes and AI.

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

It's "AN' adaption but our best? I would think intelligence or opposing digits would take that.

I'm more inclined to think intelligence is the result of a progressive development of other adaptations like the parts of our brains.  Intelligence has been around a lot longer than humans, we've simply taken it farther than anything else on the planet ie space telescopes 

 

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Hogwash.  "Nature" didn't choose it for just about as many as it did. So what nature tells us is you can pull it off either way really.

You do realize when I use the terms natural and select that of course I'm putting it in the context associated with evolution. Darwin picked the word selection not choose.

Whatever nature is telling you is probably in a different context too. You're probably just fishing around for an excuse to start crying over some promise you imagined was broken.

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

Feel free to point out others that have succeeded well enough they can build space telescopes and AI.

Sigh - lets recap.

YOU -  "Socialization must be progressive because SO MANY SPECIES in nature practice it" The fact so many do proves it"

Me - " the same number don't"

YOU -  "YEAH BUT HUMANS BUILD STUFF". 

Then what was the point in bringing up 'so many species' that are social?

Kid...  i know you have attention deficit issues.  But surely even YOU could  have paid attention long enough to realize you were shooting  your own comment down.

[Moonlight Graham]

On 8/18/2023 at 9:40 AM, eyeball said:

Given the evolution of social structure in nature I'd say the universe itself has a left wing bias.

That's like saying the universe favors ying over yang.  Or the rabbit is favored over the wolf.

The social evolution of humans has trended strongly towards the left over time, at least over the last 60 years, and western civilization, Japan etc are trending towards extinction as a result.  If Africa and the rest of Asia adopt our progressive values the human race will go extinct.  It is an unsustainable culture.

We think we're compassionate, which we are in many ways, but we're also anti-human.  People would rather have busy careers and more disposable income than have children.  Many women prefer dog babies instead of human babies.  Rampant divorce and babies out of wedlock from casual sex have eroded the family unit.  The 60s sexual revolution normalized sex out of wedlock and has destroyed the black community due to a massive increase in children born out of wedlock since the 60s.  Black women in NYC have more abortions than babies annually.

Conservatives were shunned for trying to defend family values and tradition.  We wanted our rights, we took them to extremes, and now we're reaping what we sowed.  Your sister is now on Only Fans trying to pay off her last abortion procedure and the Benz.

[eyeball]

59 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

That's like saying the universe favors ying over yang.

I was being facetious calling it a left wing bias. 

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The social evolution of humans has trended strongly towards the left over time, at least over the last 60 years, and western civilization, Japan etc are trending towards extinction as a result.  If Africa and the rest of Asia adopt our progressive values the human race will go extinct.  It is an unsustainable culture.

I think you're mistaking a tendency of many institutions to evolve towards becoming sociopathic and typically blaming the left for it.

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Conservatives were shunned for trying to defend family values and tradition.

I think they were being shunned for insisting these values be white, Christian, economic and above all else right wing.

[BeaverFever]

Even artificial intelligence has managed to surpass conservatives. . 

[Moonlight Graham]

9 hours ago, eyeball said:

I was being facetious calling it a left wing bias. 

I think you're mistaking a tendency of many institutions to evolve towards becoming sociopathic and typically blaming the left for it.

I think they were being shunned for insisting these values be white, Christian, economic and above all else right wing.

No.  Conservatives were the ones against condoms and birth control, abortions, and divorce.  There's room for those things in certain extreme cases, but progressives are the ones who have embraced and encouraged them, including the technology that block the formation of human life itself, and policies and cultural trends that have eroded the family unit.  They've created a society of broken homes, single parents and kids out of wedlock growing up without a dad, and normalized promiscuity and dog-moms.

Progressives don't have enough children to sustain their societies.  It's a suicide cult.  Progressives have created an unsustainable culture because they are, above all, self-centered.  Raising children means living to make the lives of your offspring better instead of living for your own pleasures, pursuits, and comforts.  But progressives are kind and generous...with other people's money.  Tax the rich and give it to the poor while I don't have to life a finger.

[eyeball]

12 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Progressives don't have enough children to sustain their societies.  It's a suicide cult.

I guess conservative societies will have it made in shade then.