ExFlyer Posted August 28, 2023 Report Posted August 28, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Suck it up? FU. This chickenshit will end. It has to for the economy to recover. Chuckle. Yup, suck it up, you lost it. You got burnt and don't like it....boo hoo You said "Do you think climate change is worth the trouncing of the energy industry?" I said "trounced?" and went on to prove to you that the energy industry is doing just fine and if you think by making record profits is being trounced, you need to look at yourself in the mirror because you are looking at a fool LOL Edited August 28, 2023 by ExFlyer Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Nationalist Posted August 28, 2023 Report Posted August 28, 2023 18 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Chuckle. Yup, suck it up, you lost it. You got burnt and don't like it....boo hoo You said "Do you think climate change is worth the trouncing of the energy industry?" I said "trounced?" and went on to prove to you that the energy industry is doing just fine and if you think by making record profits is being trounced, you need to look at yourself in the mirror because you are looking at a fool LOL Its not over till the fat lady sings...and I haven't heard her bellow yet. The energy industry is making money. It is not doing fine. Its growth has been stunted by over regulation and this climate religion. However there is hope in the name of Polievre in Canada, and a MAGA Republican in the US. And when this happens...the climate religious will be screaming for blood. So you enjoy your $1.60/L gas and bloated heating costs. Know that this is destroying countless lives and families...and expect to be mocked and laughed at when the prices drop after all the regulations are lifted. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
ExFlyer Posted August 28, 2023 Report Posted August 28, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: Its not over till the fat lady sings...and I haven't heard her bellow yet. The energy industry is making money. It is not doing fine. Its growth has been stunted by over regulation and this climate religion. However there is hope in the name of Polievre in Canada, and a MAGA Republican in the US. And when this happens...the climate religious will be screaming for blood. So you enjoy your $1.60/L gas and bloated heating costs. Know that this is destroying countless lives and families...and expect to be mocked and laughed at when the prices drop after all the regulations are lifted. Are you serious?? I( can hear her sing...? Hey Nationalist....you are wrong, you are wrong, get your head out of your a$$? Yes, the energy sector is making money, record money. It is doing very fine. LOL You said it was being trounced. You are beyond wrong LOL I am paying as much as you are for your energy...so yes....suck it up LOL Yup, i will be happy if, a big if., they drop carbon taxes but, I wouldn't hold my breath. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_denial Edited August 28, 2023 by ExFlyer Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Nationalist Posted August 28, 2023 Report Posted August 28, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Are you serious?? I( can hear her sing...? Hey Nationalist....you are wrong, you are wrong, get your head out of your a$$? Yes, the energy sector is making money, record money. It is doing very fine. LOL You said it was being trounced. You are beyond wrong LOL I am paying as much as you are for your energy...so yes....suck it up LOL Yup, i will be happy if, a big if., they drop carbon taxes but, I wouldn't hold my breath. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_change_denial OK so...I have not denied the climate is changing...somewhat. What I oppose is this over-the-top reaction. The idea that its OK to bring the lower income to ruin...in the name of the religion. It is certainly not OK. It is certainly not necessary. That you laugh about this and say idi0tic crap like... Quote I am paying as much as you are for your energy...so yes....suck it up LOL Only exhibits your callousness. You and I can afford this. Many cannot. They face questions like...Eat or get to work tomorrow? As a direct result of this abject bullshit, all costs have inflated. But you and your climate cult are more than happy to sacrifice people to your religion. I find that beneath contempt. Edited August 28, 2023 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
ExFlyer Posted August 28, 2023 Report Posted August 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Nationalist said: OK so...I have not denied the climate is changing...somewhat. What I oppose is this over-the-top reaction. The idea that its OK to bring the lower income to ruin...in the name of the religion. It is certainly not OK. It is certainly not necessary. That you laugh about this and say idi0tic crap like... Only exhibits your callousness. You and I can afford this. Many cannot. They face questions like...Eat or get to work tomorrow? As a direct result of this abject bullshit, all costs have inflated. But you and your climate cult are more than happy to sacrifice people to your religion. I find that beneath contempt. I am far from callous. I am totally realistic. Am not callous about housing, health care, food costs, fuel costs, taxes, car prices, cost of living, weather and on and on and on. I am realistic about them all though. I am not callous about climate change either. I am realistic about that too. What is beneath contempt is whiners like you that try to deny the obvious and disregard true science and facts;. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Nationalist Posted August 28, 2023 Report Posted August 28, 2023 20 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: I am far from callous. I am totally realistic. Am not callous about housing, health care, food costs, fuel costs, taxes, car prices, cost of living, weather and on and on and on. I am realistic about them all though. I am not callous about climate change either. I am realistic about that too. What is beneath contempt is whiners like you that try to deny the obvious and disregard true science and facts;. What's obvious...is that you'd watch people starve and be destroyed financially...for your new Gawd...Climate Change. There is no absolute evidence that humanity is in danger. There is speculation...lots of it. But truth be told...nobody knows for sure. Yet you will sit by and watch people be devastated and tell yourself its all for the cause. That is well beneath contempt.! Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Legato Posted August 28, 2023 Report Posted August 28, 2023 11 hours ago, TreeBeard said: not surprising that you bring up an example from when modern science was in its infancy. Those who disagreed were branded heretics by the church. The way forward was with better science The only way to improve on science is with more science. Then a consensus implies there's no need for more science because we all agree which as I said is not scientific. Quote
ExFlyer Posted August 28, 2023 Report Posted August 28, 2023 10 minutes ago, Nationalist said: What's obvious...is that you'd watch people starve and be destroyed financially...for your new Gawd...Climate Change. There is no absolute evidence that humanity is in danger. There is speculation...lots of it. But truth be told...nobody knows for sure. Yet you will sit by and watch people be devastated and tell yourself its all for the cause. That is well beneath contempt.! Go back to sleep Rumpelstiltskin LOL Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
Nationalist Posted August 28, 2023 Report Posted August 28, 2023 13 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Go back to sleep Rumpelstiltskin LOL Yes...laugh it up Flyer. Your new Gawd loves your sacrifice to it. Basket of deplorables. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
TreeBeard Posted August 28, 2023 Report Posted August 28, 2023 40 minutes ago, Legato said: Then a consensus implies there's no need for more science because we all agree which as I said is not scientific. That’s silly. You do know that scientists would be celebrated if they overturned a scientific consensus, don’t you? Science doesn’t stop because there’s a consensus. 1 Quote
Legato Posted August 28, 2023 Report Posted August 28, 2023 33 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: That’s silly. You do know that scientists would be celebrated if they overturned a scientific consensus, don’t you? Science doesn’t stop because there’s a consensus. Exactly, you finally get it. A so called "consensus" is never final, which is what confuses the climate cultists. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted August 28, 2023 Report Posted August 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Legato said: Exactly, you finally get it. A so called "consensus" is never final, which is what confuses the climate cultists. This has in fact been a problem. Many people including science organizations claiming the science on climate change is "final" and "Cannot be disputed". Which should seriously be a major red flag for anyone who knows anything about science - we are still to this day looking to prove parts of einstein's theories because there's always room for doubt until it's proven and that guy is the most consistently right guy in the universe so far. That and the countless reports from the science community that anyone who questions the existing climate change beliefs faces extreme pressure or backlash indicates that whatever the truth is, we're not focused on that. I do believe the climate is changing - it always does. I'm partial to the idea man plays a substantial role in that one way or another. But i don't believe that we're accurately seeing real science behind that. I believe it's heavily skewed and even when it isn't it's grossly misreported to create a sense of anxiety to promote political ideas and sell papers. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
TreeBeard Posted August 28, 2023 Report Posted August 28, 2023 10 minutes ago, Legato said: Exactly, you finally get it. A so called "consensus" is never final, which is what confuses the climate cultists. I’ve known it all along…. But, just because science carries on, makes new discoveries, and corrects mistakes is not an excuse to disbelieve a scientific consensus like climate change. That’s what confuses the climate and evolution deniers. Quote
eyeball Posted August 28, 2023 Author Report Posted August 28, 2023 3 hours ago, Nationalist said: OK so...I have not denied the climate is changing...somewhat. What I oppose is this over-the-top reaction. 3 hours ago, Nationalist said: But you and your climate cult are more than happy to sacrifice people to your religion. You don't see anything over-the-top in your dismissal of a scientific fact you say you agree is real, as a cultish religious belief? You're all over the map. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Nationalist Posted August 28, 2023 Report Posted August 28, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, eyeball said: You don't see anything over-the-top in your dismissal of a scientific fact you say you agree is real, as a cultish religious belief? You're all over the map. No I don't. Example: Its a scientific fact that cigarettes are bad for your health. Yet we are able to buy them legally. I can see that the climate is changing...getting slightly warmer. I question if the response to this is warranted or not. It seems to me that, forcing energy prices through the roof...and subsequently everything else...is not worth tossing low income earners off a cliff. Nobody can say if or when there will be a catastrophic event as a result of a warming trend. Oh they predict...but so far such predictions have proven to be nonsense. Yet in the face of this...you climate religious ARE willing to toss low income earners off a cliff. I find that unnecessary...mean...and over-the-top. And when we analyze the latest results...it is. Yet you climate religious continue to howl for more sacrifices at your alter of cards. Edited August 28, 2023 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Legato Posted August 28, 2023 Report Posted August 28, 2023 2 hours ago, TreeBeard said: I’ve known it all along…. But, just because science carries on, makes new discoveries, and corrects mistakes is not an excuse to disbelieve a scientific consensus like climate change. That’s what confuses the climate and evolution deniers. The climate has always changed and always will. The climate cultists sorry attempts to stop it is pure arrogance at it's finest. 1 Quote
TreeBeard Posted August 28, 2023 Report Posted August 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Legato said: The climate has always changed and always will. The climate cultists sorry attempts to stop it is pure arrogance at its finest. So you don’t believe climate scientists when they say humans are causing the climate to change at a rapid pace due to CO2 emissions? Quote
Aristides Posted August 28, 2023 Report Posted August 28, 2023 You can buy cigarettes but they tax the crap out of them. Quote
ExFlyer Posted August 28, 2023 Report Posted August 28, 2023 26 minutes ago, Aristides said: You can buy cigarettes but they tax the crap out of them. $hit!!! Does this mean they are going to tax the sunshine...and snowfalls?? Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
eyeball Posted August 28, 2023 Author Report Posted August 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Aristides said: You can buy cigarettes but they tax the crap out of them. They can also prevent smokers from harming others with their idiocy. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted August 28, 2023 Report Posted August 28, 2023 10 minutes ago, eyeball said: They can also prevent smokers from harming others with their idiocy. Not really. They can reduce it but i can tell you it's still a chronic problem. And the illegal smoke market has climbed to the point where i see as many people pull out a pack of untaxed smokes as taxed ones. Education did more than forcing people ever did. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted August 28, 2023 Author Report Posted August 28, 2023 31 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Education did more than forcing people ever did. Education hasn't been able to touch climate action deniers with a ten foot pole. La la la and all that....you know. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted August 28, 2023 Report Posted August 28, 2023 52 minutes ago, eyeball said: Education hasn't been able to touch climate action deniers with a ten foot pole. La la la and all that....you know. There is no education. There is only demands and insults. In fact the lack of attempts to educate are reason enough to have doubts. Here's 'education' - DO WHAT I SAY AND BELIEVE WHAT I SAY WITHOUT QUESITON!! OR YOU"RE A SCUMBAG WHO SHOULD DIE!!!! Yeah - that's not education. Only leftist think that's actually 'educating' people Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted August 28, 2023 Author Report Posted August 28, 2023 Just now, CdnFox said: La la la Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Legato Posted August 28, 2023 Report Posted August 28, 2023 3 hours ago, TreeBeard said: So you don’t believe climate scientists when they say humans are causing the climate to change at a rapid pace due to CO2 emissions? Sure CO2 is a greenhouse gas. %0,04 of the total. There are many other factors such as water vapour. methane, the sun's luminosity etc. So lets all board our private jets to attend another hypocrisy meeting over there in Davos and pay homage to the great leader Klaus Schwab. I'm sure we'll all get free Barbie dolls. Quote
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