Goddess Posted August 13, 2023 Report Posted August 13, 2023 Ivermectin is comparable to Tylenol in its safety and efficacy, which is why it won a Nobel Prize, is included on the WHO's list of must-have medications and why literally billions of people all over the world take it, most often without a prescription. 3 dying patients requested to try it, rather than be left to die and a doctor complied with their request. They all recovered from covid with Ivermectin, despite being in the highest risk group - the very elderly. (If I remember correctly, 2 of the patients were in their early 90s and one in their 80s.) Why should anyone be punished in that scenario? 3 lives were saved. I thought every life mattered and we were all willing to take whatever we had to in order to save a life? Do you really want your doctor hamstrung by the government and in danger of losing their license for giving you Tylenol so Liberal MP cronies like Frank Baylis can make $100 million dollars off you? Be careful what you wish for. 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
myata Posted August 13, 2023 Report Posted August 13, 2023 19 minutes ago, Goddess said: Why should anyone be punished in that scenario? Because we know. Because we can. No, no questions needed, but thanks. The standard and inevitable destination of any "expert" governing system without any effective checks and accountability. Confirmed yet again. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
eyeball Posted August 13, 2023 Report Posted August 13, 2023 2 hours ago, myata said: What's best for the citizens? Or corporate interests? I don't know: simply can't tell any longer. You're an example of what happens when society eschews transparency in its governance. People can't tell shit from Shinola. Multiply you by hundreds of millions if not billions around the planet and...yeah. We're pretty much hooped. Mass ignorance and confusion is the biggest hurdle humanity faces. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
myata Posted August 13, 2023 Report Posted August 13, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: You're an example of what happens when society eschews transparency in its governance. Some try and fail. And some aren't even trying, in earnest. Yes we know, just believe us (no questions please). Sure, we can. Edited August 13, 2023 by myata Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
herbie Posted August 13, 2023 Report Posted August 13, 2023 A former friend I had great respect for because of his technical knowledge insisted that I make doctors try Ivermectin when my wife was within days of dying from small cell lung cancer. Claimed 'his friend from Church' was completely cured of a brain tumour from one dose. Sad to see people you know with dementia. Hollow gullible shells of their former selves. The checks and balances we need are ones to keep people that mentally deficient from influencing decisions that affect all of us. 1 Quote
myata Posted August 13, 2023 Report Posted August 13, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, herbie said: Sad to see people you know with dementia. Hollow gullible shells of their former selves. This is a first hand eyewitness account. In the neighborhood were we live, in a park, overnight mysterious signs appeared. They looked standard park notice, dogs on the leash, access limits style. No such recommendation was given publicly to the best of my knowledge. "Wearing masks outdoors recommended". Now we know that this is total, 100% pure nonsense. Aka, plain bullsh*t, as plain as it gets. Who were the mysterious aliens? More importantly, whose money they used to pay for the job and how? We may never know, but the truth is out there somewhere, for sure. Now, who do you believe? Do you know? How? Edited August 13, 2023 by myata Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
Goddess Posted August 14, 2023 Report Posted August 14, 2023 https://www.westernjournal.com/fda-forced-walk-back-smug-anti-ivermectin-post-makes-huge-admission-drug/ 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
myata Posted August 14, 2023 Report Posted August 14, 2023 I tried to find a confirmation of this statement: "FDA explicitly recognizes that doctors do have the authority to prescribe ivermectin to treat COVID" in a reputable news source so far unsuccessfully. Could be a bombshell for our homegrown "experts" and "specialists" etc falsely referring to it as "horse medicine" though it was approved for human use in 1986 by FDA. Accountability maybe? Responsibility for knowingly false public statements? Nah, not needed here thanks for asking though. What? Why that look of surprise on your face? Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
ExFlyer Posted August 14, 2023 Report Posted August 14, 2023 23 hours ago, Goddess said: Ivermectin is comparable to Tylenol in its safety and efficacy, which is why it won a Nobel Prize, is included on the WHO's list of must-have medications and why literally billions of people all over the world take it, most often without a prescription. 3 dying patients requested to try it, rather than be left to die and a doctor complied with their request. They all recovered from covid with Ivermectin, despite being in the highest risk group - the very elderly. (If I remember correctly, 2 of the patients were in their early 90s and one in their 80s.) Why should anyone be punished in that scenario? 3 lives were saved. I thought every life mattered and we were all willing to take whatever we had to in order to save a life? Do you really want your doctor hamstrung by the government and in danger of losing their license for giving you Tylenol so Liberal MP cronies like Frank Baylis can make $100 million dollars off you? Be careful what you wish for. I do not believe it was "that scenario". He was judged by a Supreme Court judge and BC and Alberta College of Physicians on his total false, illogical and misinformation scenarios. Quote It can be dangerous to believe things just because you want them to be true. - Sagan
Goddess Posted August 14, 2023 Report Posted August 14, 2023 There is now a lawsuit against the FDA brought by Drs. Mary Talley Bowden, Paul Marik, and Robert Apter. The doctors allege that the FDA interfered with their free speech rights and their medical ability to prescribe ivermectin for covid treatment. “We’re suing the FDA for lying to the public about ivermectin,” explained Dr. Bowden. Under U.S. law, the FDA “may not interfere with the authority of a health care provider to prescribe or administer any legally marked device to a patient for any condition or disease within a legitimate health care practitioner-patient relationship.” But in various statements, the FDA repeatedly told Americans that ivermectin "isn’t authorized or approved to treat COVID-19,” and on its website’s Q&A, warned against such use: “Q: Should I take ivermectin to prevent or treat COVID-19? A: No.” On Tuesday, skeptical appellate panel judges grilled the FDA’s lawyer about this now-infamous tweet: "You are not a horse. You are not a cow. Seriously, y'all. Stop it. The FDA’s lawyer tried to characterize the instructions in that tweet as just a “quip,” (Haha! We were just joking!!) that did nothing more than explain the FDA’s position on taking ivermectin for your covid. But the judges didn’t seem convinced. “What about when it said, ‘No, stop it’?” Judge Jennifer Elrod asked. “Why isn’t that a command? If you were in English class, they would say that was a command.” The FDA’s lawyer glibly explained, the “FDA explicitly recognizes that doctors do have the authority to prescribe ivermectin to treat COVID.” Oh. Do they. Unfortunately, that information might have been very useful to a lot of people a couple years ago. This new FDA statement will be particularly helpful to heterodox doctors whose licenses and certifications are still being challenged for their positions on covid over the last three years. In an interview about the story with Maria Bartiromo, Senator Ron Johnson pointed out the biggest problem with the FDA’s belated admission: thousands of people’s lives might have been saved if the FDA weren’t undermining ivermectin the whole time. People are dead now because of what the FDA did. Doctors Can Prescribe Ivermectin for COVID-19: FDA Lawyer (onedaymd.com Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
impartialobserver Posted August 14, 2023 Report Posted August 14, 2023 as expected.. someone says COVID and a certain cast of characters come.. ever so Pavlovian. The plaintiff simply went about this incorrectly. It shows a distinct lack of knowledge of civil or tort law. Quote
Goddess Posted August 14, 2023 Report Posted August 14, 2023 In addition, outspoken Florida Dr. John Littell, who had his license revoked for advocating Ivermectin, just had it reinstated by the board. And the state of Florida also passed a new law forbidding medical certification boards from punishing doctors for prescribing off label drugs. 3 hours ago, ExFlyer said: I do not believe it was "that scenario". He was judged by a Supreme Court judge and BC and Alberta College of Physicians on his total false, illogical and misinformation scenarios. I don't care what you "believe" since you are gullible and most often believe lies. I would say that just as Canada's scientific and medical community is miles behind the rest of the world in banning these shots for most age groups, our judicial authorities are also miles behind. As proven above. Hopefully Canada advances scientifically, medically and judicially. But our current governmental regime seems determined to keep us in the dark ages on all those fronts. 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
ExFlyer Posted August 14, 2023 Report Posted August 14, 2023 10 minutes ago, Goddess said: In addition, outspoken Florida Dr. John Littell, who had his license revoked for advocating Ivermectin, just had it reinstated by the board. And the state of Florida also passed a new law forbidding medical certification boards from punishing doctors for prescribing off label drugs. I don't care what you "believe" since you are gullible and most often believe lies. I would say that just as Canada's scientific and medical community is miles behind the rest of the world in banning these shots for most age groups, our judicial authorities are also miles behind. As proven above. Hopefully Canada advances scientifically, medically and judicially. But our current governmental regime seems determined to keep us in the dark ages on all those fronts. OK, you don't have to care what I believe. But the Supreme Court Judge does. So does the Alberta College of Physicians and Surgeons. So does College of Physicians and Surgeons of BC because he "contravened standards imposed under the Health Professions Act, including but not limited to the Canadian Medical Association’s Code of Ethics and Professionalism, " The only place he will ever be a doctor again is in some banana republic. Even his family has left him. The guy is an all around loser to everyone except to some zero credible anti vaxxers So, what I believe is.... moot. LOL Quote It can be dangerous to believe things just because you want them to be true. - Sagan
CdnFox Posted August 14, 2023 Report Posted August 14, 2023 On 8/13/2023 at 8:42 AM, eyeball said: You're an example of what happens when society eschews transparency in its governance. People can't tell shit from Shinola. Multiply you by hundreds of millions if not billions around the planet and...yeah. We're pretty much hooped. Mass ignorance and confusion is the biggest hurdle humanity faces. we have transparency and you still can't tell shit from shinola. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted August 14, 2023 Report Posted August 14, 2023 1 minute ago, CdnFox said: we have transparency and you still can't tell shit from shinola Liar. I can tell you from Shinola 7 days a week and twice on Sunday. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted August 14, 2023 Report Posted August 14, 2023 22 minutes ago, eyeball said: Liar. I can tell you from Shinola 7 days a week and twice on Sunday. I think you just proved my point Keep voting Trudeau there little guy Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
myata Posted August 14, 2023 Report Posted August 14, 2023 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: But the Supreme Court Judge does. Canada's? Don't forget to specify please. It makes much difference. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
ExFlyer Posted August 14, 2023 Report Posted August 14, 2023 1 hour ago, myata said: Canada's? Don't forget to specify please. It makes much difference. Seriously??? We are not speaking about the supreme court of Bahrain The doctor in question is not in San Marino When you lose, you really fall in a deep hole LOL Quote It can be dangerous to believe things just because you want them to be true. - Sagan
Goddess Posted August 14, 2023 Report Posted August 14, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, myata said: Canada's? Don't forget to specify please. It makes much difference. It was the BC Supreme Court, not the SC of Canada. And they are going by the FDA's demonization of Ivermectin, which as you can see above - they were only just joking about. Edited August 14, 2023 by Goddess 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Aristides Posted August 14, 2023 Author Report Posted August 14, 2023 8 hours ago, myata said: I tried to find a confirmation of this statement: "FDA explicitly recognizes that doctors do have the authority to prescribe ivermectin to treat COVID" in a reputable news source so far unsuccessfully. Could be a bombshell for our homegrown "experts" and "specialists" etc falsely referring to it as "horse medicine" though it was approved for human use in 1986 by FDA. Accountability maybe? Responsibility for knowingly false public statements? Nah, not needed here thanks for asking though. What? Why that look of surprise on your face? Vet grade ivermectin is for horses. Quote
myata Posted August 14, 2023 Report Posted August 14, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Seriously??? We are not speaking about the supreme court of Bahrain How can you tell? Doctor Charles Smith fiasco Psychiatric hospital abuse Multiple wrongful convictions with multimillion compensations, public paying to itself from one pocket to the other. They screw up royally you pay a lot how's that a bad deal? And now, Covid of course. Could all of that have happened with a competent and independent, judiciary? What if the great Canadian legal system is only another beaver tale? Like, how do you know? 8 minutes ago, Goddess said: And they are going by the FDA's demonization of Ivermectin, which as you can see above - they were only just joking about. It's OK give it another decade... or two. The greatest system in the world will catch up, eventually. Edited August 14, 2023 by myata Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
ExFlyer Posted August 14, 2023 Report Posted August 14, 2023 1 minute ago, myata said: How can you tell? Doctor Charles Smith fiasco Psychiatric hospital abuse Multiple wrongful convictions with multimillion compensations, public paying to itself from one pocket to the other. And now, Covid of course. Could all of that have happened with a competent and independent, judiciary? What if the great Canadian legal system is another beaver tale? How do you know? Whoops....change the subject to get out of your stupidity. Face it, the doc in BC is a recognized flake, even his family knows it and left him. Quote It can be dangerous to believe things just because you want them to be true. - Sagan
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