Devon Archer Transcript proves Joe had the Ukrainian prosecutor fired to help end the investigation into his son's energy firm Burisma

[Rebound]

11 hours ago, West said:

The transcript proves that Hunter Biden was hired by Burisma for access to his father who was the US point person for Ukraine. Ukraine had to pass all their affairs by Joe Biden including their judicial picks. 

We know shokin fired up an investigation into Burisma in 2014/2015. Two weeks later he was fired. Joe Biden hand selected the Ukrainian prosecutors who then dropped this case.. this is factual timelines

Now of course leftist sycophants at the new York times will tell you it's all just a giant conspiracy theory, don't believe your eyes, and claim without evidence shokin was corrupt. Of course this is just to cover for mob boss Joe who appears to be at least a part of a large criminal enterprise who abuses public office for financial gain 

Can you quote the words from the transcript which back up your claim?

[robosmith]

3 minutes ago, West said:

You've been shown multiple times.

IF ^this were true, you could point to it, but you CANNOT.

3 minutes ago, West said:

 

I'm not just going to keep wasting time on an imbecile who refuses to read. 

I just posted the excerpts from the transcript that completely contradict your thread title. Duh

3 minutes ago, West said:

"It's a conspiracy theory that Hunter made millions while his dad abused his office even though all the evidence shows he did"

@robosmith

You got BUPKIS that shows ^this. Certainly NOT the Archer transcript I cited.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Trump colluded with Russians and Nick Sandman to get Jussie Smollett lynched in a mostly peaceful way but the vax saved him. We would never have known about any of this if the FBI didn't stumble across it while they were busy not investigating  gymnast molestations in between their BSL4 lab robberies. 

Finally the truth comes out.

[West]

19 minutes ago, robosmith said:

IF ^this were true, you could point to it, but you CANNOT.

I just posted the excerpts from the transcript that completely contradict your thread title. Duh

You got BUPKIS that shows ^this. Certainly NOT the Archer transcript I cited.

It's his testimony bupkis 

[West]

27 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Can you quote the words ..

 

Majority Counsel: You keep saying “the brand,” but by “brand” you mean the Biden family, correct?

Mr. Archer: Correct.

Majority Counsel: And that brand is what, in your opinion, was the majority of what the value that was delivered from Hunter Biden to Burisma?

Mr. Archer:  I didn’t say majority, but I wouldn’t speculate on percentages. But I do think that that was an element of it. 

Rep. Andy Biggs: When you say “Biden family” ‑‑ sorry to cut in here. I just want to get a clarification. You aren’t talking about Dr. Jill or anybody else. You’re talking about Joe Biden. Is that fair to say? 

Mr. Archer:  Yeah, that’s fair to say. Listen, I think it’s ‑‑ I don’t think about it as, you know, Joe directly, but it’s fair. That’s fair to say. Obviously, that brought the most value to the brand. 

***

Majority Counsel: That Hunter Biden was adding value. His value that he was adding was, in part, as you said, his family.

Mr. Archer: Uh‑huh.

Majority Counsel: And so what is your basis for knowing that?

Mr. Archer: My basis for knowing that? Well, I think there was ‑‑ there are particular, you know, objectives that Burisma was trying to accomplish. And a lot of it’s about opening doors, you know, globally in D.C.  And I think that, you know, that was the, you know ‑‑ and then obviously having those doors opened, you know, sent the right signals, you know, for Burisma to, you know, carry on its business and be successful. 

The rest is history... the Biden brand was threats of getting a prosecutor fired, implementing a puppet of the Biden administration who then dropped all burisma charges

[Rebound]

31 minutes ago, West said:

 

Majority Counsel: You keep saying “the brand,” but by “brand” you mean the Biden family, correct?

Mr. Archer: Correct.

Majority Counsel: And that brand is what, in your opinion, was the majority of what the value that was delivered from Hunter Biden to Burisma?

Mr. Archer:  I didn’t say majority, but I wouldn’t speculate on percentages. But I do think that that was an element of it. 

Rep. Andy Biggs: When you say “Biden family” ‑‑ sorry to cut in here. I just want to get a clarification. You aren’t talking about Dr. Jill or anybody else. You’re talking about Joe Biden. Is that fair to say? 

Mr. Archer:  Yeah, that’s fair to say. Listen, I think it’s ‑‑ I don’t think about it as, you know, Joe directly, but it’s fair. That’s fair to say. Obviously, that brought the most value to the brand. 

***

Majority Counsel: That Hunter Biden was adding value. His value that he was adding was, in part, as you said, his family.

Mr. Archer: Uh‑huh.

Majority Counsel: And so what is your basis for knowing that?

Mr. Archer: My basis for knowing that? Well, I think there was ‑‑ there are particular, you know, objectives that Burisma was trying to accomplish. And a lot of it’s about opening doors, you know, globally in D.C.  And I think that, you know, that was the, you know ‑‑ and then obviously having those doors opened, you know, sent the right signals, you know, for Burisma to, you know, carry on its business and be successful. 

The rest is history... the Biden brand was threats of getting a prosecutor fired, implementing a puppet of the Biden administration who then dropped all burisma charges

Your claim was that Biden had Shotkin fired because of the Burisma connection, and you said the transcript proves this, but your quote does not prove this.  It does not even address this. 
 

DC is packed with lobbying firms which do the exact same thing… “open doors.” 
 

Donald Trump hired the “Giuliani Brand,” didn’t he? But you didn’t see anything wrong with that, I assume? 
 

Perhaps you voted for George W Bush, who “sold the brand” of Bush.  Did you see anything illegal about that? 
 

Ivanka and Jared got White House jobs because if the Trump brand. And then Saudi government gave Jared $2 billion to manage as a fund manager, even though he had no experience as a fund manager.  Hmmm

Edited August 29, 2023 by Rebound

[West]

2 hours ago, Rebound said:

Your claim was that Biden had Shotkin fired because of the Burisma connection, and you said the transcript proves this, but your quote does not prove this.  It does not even address this. 
 

DC is packed with lobbying firms which do the exact same thing… “open doors.” 
 

Donald Trump hired the “Giuliani Brand,” didn’t he? But you didn’t see anything wrong with that, I assume? 
 

Perhaps you voted for George W Bush, who “sold the brand” of Bush.  Did you see anything illegal about that? 
 

Ivanka and Jared got White House jobs because if the Trump brand. And then Saudi government gave Jared $2 billion to manage as a fund manager, even though he had no experience as a fund manager.  Hmmm

It most certainly does prove that Hunter was hired for his "family connection". The Tucker interview elaborates further and he explains that he and others ie the president of Poland and other high ranking Ukrainian folks were hired to get them out of the legal issues. 

Burisma was accused of illegally selling gas and Shokin had frozen their assets, the CEO fled the country.

It's a false narrative that shokin was doing nothing. Furthermore the narrative that shokin was corrupt is baseless and has been thoroughly debunked by the recent Fox News interview as well as Rudy's.

Edited August 29, 2023 by West

[Rebound]

2 hours ago, West said:

It most certainly does prove that Hunter was hired for his "family connection". The Tucker interview elaborates further and he explains that he and others ie the president of Poland and other high ranking Ukrainian folks were hired to get them out of the legal issues. 

Burisma was accused of illegally selling gas and Shokin had frozen their assets, the CEO fled the country.

It's a false narrative that shokin was doing nothing. Furthermore the narrative that shokin was corrupt is baseless and has been thoroughly debunked by the recent Fox News interview as well as Rudy's.

You’re weaving all over the place like a drunk driver.  Can you just nail your feet to the floor for a minute and stick with one set of facts and the basis for them?  
 

Seriously, YOU said that this transcript PROVES that Shokin was fired because of Hunter Biden’s influence.  Can you just STOP for a sec and stick with that before you weave all sorts of additional nonsense you’re pulling out of thin air? 
 

Answer is: You can’t. You can’t do it because you’re lying and you’re wrong. The transcript DOES NOT prove these things and it does not even state these things.  Here we are in Page 12 of this thread and still no quotation from the transcript of the hearing which backs up this claim.  So let’s call BS on this.  There’s zero actionable testimony of any crime in Archer’s testimony.  
 

If you’d like to show us some sort of provable storyline showing the actions of Shokin and the timeline of his hiring and firing, do that.  But not from a Tucker Carlson show.  That guy is a liar. Instead, we can dig up news reports published in 2014-2016. Because the contemporary news reports I saw were that the US embassy called for Shokin’s firing in September of 2014, then Biden visited December 2014 and the firing happened March 2015, following large protests in Kiev.  
 

The only frozen money I found was from the British government, of $24 million which belonged to the founder of Burisma. This was unfrozen by the British courts some time later after Ukranian prosecutors failed to turn over any evidence of wrongdoing.  The founder then fled to Russia. This is what I got from contemporary news reports.  

[West]

1 hour ago, Rebound said:

You’re weaving all over the place like a drunk driver.  Can you just nail your feet to the floor for a minute and stick with one set of facts and the basis for them?  
 

Seriously, YOU said that this transcript PROVES that Shokin was fired because of Hunter Biden’s influence.  Can you just STOP for a sec and stick with that before you weave all sorts of additional nonsense you’re pulling out of thin air? 
 

Answer is: You can’t. You can’t do it because you’re lying and you’re wrong. The transcript DOES NOT prove these things and it does not even state these things.  Here we are in Page 12 of this thread and still no quotation from the transcript of the hearing which backs up this claim.  So let’s call BS on this.  There’s zero actionable testimony of any crime in Archer’s testimony.  
 

If you’d like to show us some sort of provable storyline showing the actions of Shokin and the timeline of his hiring and firing, do that.  But not from a Tucker Carlson show.  That guy is a liar. Instead, we can dig up news reports published in 2014-2016. Because the contemporary news reports I saw were that the US embassy called for Shokin’s firing in September of 2014, then Biden visited December 2014 and the firing happened March 2015, following large protests in Kiev.  
 

The only frozen money I found was from the British government, of $24 million which belonged to the founder of Burisma. This was unfrozen by the British courts some time later after Ukranian prosecutors failed to turn over any evidence of wrongdoing.  The founder then fled to Russia. This is what I got from contemporary news reports.  

You've already been shown irrefutable proof of your boy Joe's corrupt affair

[Rebound]

1 hour ago, West said:

You've already been shown irrefutable proof of your boy Joe's corrupt affair

Please answer this. Is it:

1) You think that if you keep repeating the same lie over and over, it will become true, or

2) You are so dumb that you actually believe what you’re saying?

I can read, and the false claim you keep making is not substantiated by the quotes you’re providing. You may as well tell us that Devon Archer told Congress that he flew to the moon with Elvis. 

[West]

3 hours ago, Rebound said:

Please answer this. Is it:

1) You think that if you keep repeating the same lie over and over, it will become true, or

2) You are so dumb that you actually believe what you’re saying?

I can read, and the false claim you keep making is not substantiated by the quotes you’re providing. You may as well tell us that Devon Archer told Congress that he flew to the moon with Elvis. 

You have repeated the debunked lie that Joe had shokin fired because shokin was corrupt. There's no evidence. The weight of evidence including Archers testimony points to Joe being corrupt. 

As Archer said, hunter was on the board to assist the company in getting over its legal hurdles as they were under investigation for being corrupt. His dad was his major selling feature and Joe delivered by threatening aid to interfere in an investigation while his son bagged the bribe. As extended family don't need to share their Financials, Joe can claim he's clean as a whistle while his son brother and others are acting as his proxy for bribery and other high crimes. 

You support that and continue to lie about good people exposing your corrupt god Joe Biden

[Nationalist]

6 hours ago, West said:

You have repeated the debunked lie that Joe had shokin fired because shokin was corrupt. There's no evidence. The weight of evidence including Archers testimony points to Joe being corrupt. 

As Archer said, hunter was on the board to assist the company in getting over its legal hurdles as they were under investigation for being corrupt. His dad was his major selling feature and Joe delivered by threatening aid to interfere in an investigation while his son bagged the bribe. As extended family don't need to share their Financials, Joe can claim he's clean as a whistle while his son brother and others are acting as his proxy for bribery and other high crimes. 

You support that and continue to lie about good people exposing your corrupt god Joe Biden

Game...Set...Match.

Now can we please cage the coke addicted little shit and dispose of his destructive, addled father?

[Rebound]

45 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Game...Set...Match.

Now can we please cage the coke addicted little shit and dispose of his destructive, addled father?

Well if you want to do that, then you’ll have to turn off your vivid imagination and pursue actual facts.  You’re weaving together a story that does not hold up.

You have only one single example of an act which you allege Joe Biden performed in relation to his son’s employment. And unfortunately, the only person who claims the prosecutor was going after Burisma… is the fired prosecutor.  

[Nationalist]

12 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Well if you want to do that, then you’ll have to turn off your vivid imagination and pursue actual facts.  You’re weaving together a story that does not hold up.

You have only one single example of an act which you allege Joe Biden performed in relation to his son’s employment. And unfortunately, the only person who claims the prosecutor was going after Burisma… is the fired prosecutor.  

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/463307-solomon-these-once-secret-memos-cast-doubt-on-joe-bidens-ukraine-story/

Whether Joe ever faces the music or not, the fact is he's now utterly destroyed.

Mission accomplished.

[Hodad]

7 hours ago, West said:

You have repeated the debunked lie that Joe had shokin fired because shokin was corrupt. There's no evidence. The weight of evidence including Archers testimony points to Joe being corrupt. 

 

 

You are a crazy person. This has been pointed out to you multiple times, and you persist with your lies. Archer's testimony was literally the opposite of what you claim:

A. The Burisma board was told that Shokin was under control and Burisma didn't want him fired.

B. To his knowledge, Joe Biden had never done anything material to assist Hunter, the consulting firm or Burisma.

 

 

Exhibit B (pg. 127 one of many instances 114-120 are also instructive)
Q: In fact, Hunter Biden never asked his father to take official actions on behalf of his business partners?

A: He did not. He did not ask him -- to my knowledge, I never saw him say, do  anything for any particular business. 

Q And you're not aware of Joe Biden ever doing anything to help his son's business partners? 

A No. I think that the calls were -- that's what it was. They were calls to talk about the weather, and that was signal enough to be powerful. 

Q So this, again, was about projecting this illusion of access to his father. Is that right? 

A: Correct

 

Exhibit A (pg. 106, one of many)

Archer: That was like -- that was a narrative that was -- that was told to me 3 by various of the D.C. team, that the firing of Shokin was bad for Burisma because he was 4 under control.

Mr. Goldman. What did you understand "under control" to mean? 

Mr. Archer. Meaning that they were going to maybe give a slap on the wrist as 7 opposed to you know, seize all his assets.

Mr. Goldman. Because there was a lot of characterizations by the Republicans in 11 the first part about a Ukrainian investigation. 

Mr. Archer. Uh-huh. 

Mr. Goldman. But you're not actually aware of any investigation by the 14 prosecutor general in Ukraine into Burisma which is different from the 15 British investigation. 

Mr. Archer. Right. The British investigation I was aware of. I think in the early stages, like the visa and the British, I was made aware of. And then it kind of  my -- I had other responsibilities and I was less informed as we moved forward and Blue Star kind of was more involved.

Mr. Goldman. Was taken over on that angle of things. 

Mr. Archer. Yeah, I was, like, an FYI at first, and then I became less FYI as time  progressed. 

Mr. Goldman. So was it -- Shokin was ultimately removed from office.

Mr. Archer. Right. 

Mr. Goldman. Was that a bad thing for -- and the Burisma leaders felt like that would be bad for them? 

Mr. Archer. That was what I was told.

 

 

 

 

[Hodad]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/463307-solomon-these-once-secret-memos-cast-doubt-on-joe-bidens-ukraine-story/

Whether Joe ever faces the music or not, the fact is he's now utterly destroyed.

Mission accomplished.

Sure, the conspiracy kooks won't vote for Biden ever again -- wait, they never were going to in the first place. Your opinion piece from 2019 notwithstanding, the facts are abundantly clear. Nothing was found to implicate Joe Biden in any ethically compromised behavior, let alone corruption. The seeds of suspicion were sown, but each point has been thoroughly debunked. Shokin's own office confirmed that there was no investigation at the time--that Shokin had shelved it. We also know that he refused to cooperate with the UK investigation of Burisma, forcing the UK to unfreeze Burisma assets. We also know that Archer and other insiders were told that Shokin was under control and it would be bad for Burisma if he were fired and replaced with a reformer.

Good try, but go find a conspiracy that makes any semblance of sense.

[West]

29 minutes ago, Hodad said:

You are a crazy person. This has been pointed out to you multiple times, and you persist with your lies. Archer's testimony was literally the opposite of what you claim:

A. The Burisma board was told that Shokin was under control and Burisma didn't want him fired.

B. To his knowledge, Joe Biden had never done anything material to assist Hunter, the consulting firm or Burisma.

 

 

Exhibit B (pg. 127 one of many instances 114-120 are also instructive)
Q: In fact, Hunter Biden never asked his father to take official actions on behalf of his business partners?

A: He did not. He did not ask him -- to my knowledge, I never saw him say, do  anything for any particular business. 

Q And you're not aware of Joe Biden ever doing anything to help his son's business partners? 

A No. I think that the calls were -- that's what it was. They were calls to talk about the weather, and that was signal enough to be powerful. 

Q So this, again, was about projecting this illusion of access to his father. Is that right? 

A: Correct

 

Exhibit A (pg. 106, one of many)

Archer: That was like -- that was a narrative that was -- that was told to me 3 by various of the D.C. team, that the firing of Shokin was bad for Burisma because he was 4 under control.

Mr. Goldman. What did you understand "under control" to mean? 

Mr. Archer. Meaning that they were going to maybe give a slap on the wrist as 7 opposed to you know, seize all his assets.

Mr. Goldman. Because there was a lot of characterizations by the Republicans in 11 the first part about a Ukrainian investigation. 

Mr. Archer. Uh-huh. 

Mr. Goldman. But you're not actually aware of any investigation by the 14 prosecutor general in Ukraine into Burisma which is different from the 15 British investigation. 

Mr. Archer. Right. The British investigation I was aware of. I think in the early stages, like the visa and the British, I was made aware of. And then it kind of  my -- I had other responsibilities and I was less informed as we moved forward and Blue Star kind of was more involved.

Mr. Goldman. Was taken over on that angle of things. 

Mr. Archer. Yeah, I was, like, an FYI at first, and then I became less FYI as time  progressed. 

Mr. Goldman. So was it -- Shokin was ultimately removed from office.

Mr. Archer. Right. 

Mr. Goldman. Was that a bad thing for -- and the Burisma leaders felt like that would be bad for them? 

Mr. Archer. That was what I was told.

 

 

 

 

Under control because multiple western folks would get him under control lol. Archer is clearly trying to limit the damage in those statements.. even though he said Hunter was hired for access to high ranking US politicians including his father. 

Same folks accepting bribes from burisma are the same folks claiming the prosecutor is "corrupt". Imagine that. 

Edited August 30, 2023 by West

[Hodad]

2 minutes ago, West said:

Under control because multiple western folks would get him under control lol. 

Same folks accepting bribes from burisma are the same folks claiming the prosecutor is "corrupt". Imagine that. 

To repeat, for people really bad at reading and reason:

Mr. Goldman. So was it -- Shokin was ultimately removed from office.

Mr. Archer. Right. 

Mr. Goldman. Was that a bad thing for -- and the Burisma leaders felt like that would be bad for them? 

Mr. Archer. That was what I was told.

[West]

2 minutes ago, Hodad said:

To repeat, for people really bad at reading and reason:

Mr. Goldman. So was it -- Shokin was ultimately removed from office.

Mr. Archer. Right. 

Mr. Goldman. Was that a bad thing for -- and the Burisma leaders felt like that would be bad for them? 

Mr. Archer. That was what I was told.

?.. 

Yeah until shokin had the executives of Burisma arrested two weeks prior to his ouster. 

Edited August 30, 2023 by West

[Nationalist]

35 minutes ago, West said:

?.. 

Yeah until shokin had the executives of Burisma arrested two weeks prior to his ouster. 

I think we need to face the fact that, no matter the evidence, these people will never acknowledge it and the MSM will go along with them for the ride. But Joe is now a washed up old has-been. His name and legacy is now dirt.

[West]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

I think we need to face the fact that, no matter the evidence, these people will never acknowledge it and the MSM will go along with them for the ride. But Joe is now a washed up old has-been. His name and legacy is now dirt.

Sadly they perpetuate corrupt acts

[Nationalist]

40 minutes ago, West said:

Sadly they perpetuate corrupt acts

Ya...its Trump. They are so warped by their hatred, that they can justify anything by thinking, keeping Trump out of the Whitehouse is worth the cost. Any cost.

They'll do the same to DeSantis or whomever is the Republican nominee...if its not Trump...which it likely will.

Its wild to watch. Presumably otherwise functional adults, so wrapped and warped by hatred, that they would cut off their nose to spite their face.

"BUT ITS A FACT!"

Oh horse-doodoo. What's a "fact" is that Trump has withstood your childish BS for 7 years now. During that time, he also made America great again, gave you Tweenkie-asses your Gawd damn vax, and faced 2 of the silliest impeachment exhibits the USA has ever seen.

Frankly...I hope he wins back the Whitehouse just so he can exact some well deserved revenge.

and...you know...make America great...once again.

Edited August 30, 2023 by Nationalist

[Hodad]

1 hour ago, West said:

?.. 

Yeah until shokin had the executives of Burisma arrested two weeks prior to his ouster. 

Who was arrested and when? Where are your citations?

I don't think you have any idea of what was happening in Ukraine outside of your loose conspiracy theory. This never was about the Bidens. It's incredibly myopic to try and shoehorn an entire nation's politics--and the associated geopolitics into a narrative about Americans.

Again, the US, UK, EU, IMF, Ukrainian watchdog groups and Ukranian citizens ALL wanted Shokin fired for a long time before Joe Biden applied the pressure. And it's absurd to think an international anti-corruption effort is all a favor to help Hunter make a few bucks.

Here's the story of how the UK case was foiled by Shokin's office. The money machine: how a high-profile corruption investigation fell apart

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

I think we need to face the fact that, no matter the evidence, these people will never acknowledge it and the MSM will go along with them for the ride. But Joe is now a washed up old has-been. His name and legacy is now dirt.

Find some evidence and we'll see. So far all you have is wild speculation that is undermined  by mountains of evidence that Shokin was corrupt.

[West]

15 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Who was arrested and when? Where are your citations?

I don't think you have any idea of what was happening in Ukraine outside of your loose conspiracy theory. This never was about the Bidens. It's incredibly myopic to try and shoehorn an entire nation's politics--and the associated geopolitics into a narrative about Americans.

Again, the US, UK, EU, IMF, Ukrainian watchdog groups and Ukranian citizens ALL wanted Shokin fired for a long time before Joe Biden applied the pressure. And it's absurd to think an international anti-corruption effort is all a favor to help Hunter make a few bucks.

Here's the story of how the UK case was foiled by Shokin's office. The money machine: how a high-profile corruption investigation fell apart

Find some evidence and we'll see. So far all you have is wild speculation that is undermined  by mountains of evidence that Shokin was corrupt.

So your evidence of Shokin's "corruption" is a man whos son was making $1 million a year to sit on a board of an energy firm who was under investigation all over for corruption said so? Pretty weak argument 

That's why your claims are ridiculous.

And yes as has already been explained to you, the stakes for Burisma were high which is why they had multilayered approach in the US and in Europe. Archer alluded to this in his testimony. 

Edited August 30, 2023 by West

[Nationalist]

15 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Who was arrested and when? Where are your citations?

I don't think you have any idea of what was happening in Ukraine outside of your loose conspiracy theory. This never was about the Bidens. It's incredibly myopic to try and shoehorn an entire nation's politics--and the associated geopolitics into a narrative about Americans.

Again, the US, UK, EU, IMF, Ukrainian watchdog groups and Ukranian citizens ALL wanted Shokin fired for a long time before Joe Biden applied the pressure. And it's absurd to think an international anti-corruption effort is all a favor to help Hunter make a few bucks.

Here's the story of how the UK case was foiled by Shokin's office. The money machine: how a high-profile corruption investigation fell apart

Find some evidence and we'll see. So far all you have is wild speculation that is undermined  by mountains of evidence that Shokin was corrupt.

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Hunter’s former business partner Devon Archer, who also served on Burisma’s board, testified in a closed-door House Oversight Committee hearing in July that, amid pressure from Shokin’s office and other entities investigating Burisma, company leaders turned to Hunter for help. Archer said Hunter “called D.C.” to help get Shokin fired.

https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2023/08/30/former-ukraine-prosecutor-makes-explosive-claims-against-joe-and-hunter-biden-in-a-fox-news/

OOPS...so now Devon Archer is a liar too?

This is silly. I don't know what this Shokin character is like, nor do I care. He and Hunter's own business partner and old buddy, say the same thing.

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Hunter “called D.C.” to help get Shokin fired.