Muslims and Christians unite on the streets of Ottawa, trampling the Gender Ideology Flag

[herbie]

Another thread celebrating people acting like assh0les.

Another Artificial Untelligence word filter that bans "arsehole" and allows hate posts.

[CdnFox]

8 minutes ago, Americana Antifa said:

Wow, talk about a war on straw.

So here was what you actually said: You did write it down - that was just a re-hash of your 2016 "trump stole the election - russians!"  routine.  And you wrote about that for 4 years straight.

I acknowledged that Russia helped Trump win and that Trump should not have accepted their offer of help. This was a really bad scandal. However, I never said he stole the election.

Bullshit. We can go back further and you make the same claims again and again - russia helped trump win the election and the Democrat's claims are legit - and they claim he stole the election,

Soooowweeeeee - you lose kiddo

The current republican claim is just a take off of the Dem claim that he used the russians to steal the election. Hell hillary is STILL out there publically saying that the election was stolen from her and trump is an illegitimate president

Sometimes we reap what we sow    Republican conspiracy theories tend to be completely made up by or stolen from the dems 

Totally got ya kiddo

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

that was at the trial on charge of committing treason against Caesar for Jesus claiming that He was King

Yeah, I still remember some of that stuff.  I spent my first fifteen or so years on the planet as a Roman Catholic.

I still fear nuns!

[CdnFox]

Just now, herbie said:

Another thread celebrating people acting like assh0les.

what do you mean? It didn't mention the democrat convention once!  (Ba da dump! tip your waitresses folks, we're here all week )

An intelligent man looks at why they're behaving like arseholes. And would realize that we have a problem - the way that we're handling the Letter People issues is not making things more inclusive - it's breaking things apart.

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

Yeah, I still remember some of that stuff.  I spent my first fifteen or so years on the planet as a Roman Catholic.

I still fear nuns!

the Romans reserved crucifixion as the method of execution only for treason against the Princeps

Governor ( Rector Provincae ) Pilates was loathe to have Jesus executed

because the Romans were loathe to make martyrs in the middle of a ongoing insurrection

but Jesus refused to recant and the crowd bayed for His execution

so Governor Pilatus signed the order that made the Fisherman into the Lord

[Michael Hardner]

5 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

My view as a conservative in all seriousness is that government should govern matters of law, economy, health and security. NOT moralizing, NOT giving one  

I don't see what he's done lately that translates into actual policy.

[Dougie93]

15 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

I still fear nuns!

because that's not Jesus, that's the Romans

the Romans took the place of Jesus, installing the Emperor in His place, as the Pontifex Maximus

a Protestant has nothing to fear, with no Nun nor Pope between we & our Lord

[Guest]

21 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

because that's not Jesus, that's the Romans

the Romans took the place of Jesus, installing the Emperor in His place, as the Pontifex Maximus

a Protestant has nothing to fear, with no Nun nor Pope between we & our LordI

I was just worried about the nuns that came between me and getting through the day without a good hiding. 

I think they were sexually repressed, and they took it out on us.

[OftenWrong]

55 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I don't see what he's done lately that translates into actual policy.

Well there was an article in national post today indicating some statements Trudeau made about the premier of NB. I didn't read the article but I saw the headline. Maybe you should look it up.

Policy is not the main point here. It's also important to look at messaging and how his views get taken up by other groups. That's how cancel culture really works.

[CdnFox]

4 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

Well there was an article in national post today indicating some statements Trudeau made about the premier of NB. I didn't read the article but I saw the headline. Maybe you should look it up.

Policy is not the main point here. It's also important to look at messaging and how his views get taken up by other groups. That's how cancel culture really works.

And unfortunately the previous policy changes he's made are still having an effect.

But lets remember that creating division and then exploiting it is his strategy.

[Dougie93]

3 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

Well there was an article in national post today indicating some statements Trudeau made about the premier of NB. I didn't read the article but I saw the headline. Maybe you should look it up.

Policy is not the main point here. It's also important to look at messaging and how his views get taken up by other groups. That's how cancel culture really works.

generally I find New Brunswick to be a hellhole

at Camp Gagetown, you could dig a trench on the top of a hill, and still it will fill with water

yet all of a sudden, they are leading the nation against the Quislings in Ottawa

fittingly stalwart in the face of American cultural revolution

as the province named after George III

Princeps Elector of Brunswick-Lüneburg

[Michael Hardner]

14 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

 

Policy is not the main point here. It's also important to look at messaging and how his views get taken up by other groups. That's how cancel culture really works.

I thought you were saying government should get out of the bedrooms of Canadians? Without policy, they're not doing anything just talking.

Pierre Trudeau said that because people were breaking the law by having consensual sex.

 

[Americana Antifa]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Bullshit. We can go back further and you make the same claims again and again - russia helped trump win the election and the Democrat's claims are legit - and they claim he stole the election,

That's nice, but you're talking to me, not other people who aren't here. I never claimed he stole the election. My position was always that the election was problematic, some laws need to be changed, but he did legally win. The election wasn't stolen, Trump just took advantage of our flawed election process.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Americana Antifa said:

That's nice, but you're talking to me, not other people

And you've stated you share their views and this view in particular.  I've already posted the proof,

Hoisted by your own petard i'm afraid. 

Sorry kiddo - the whole 'stole the election' thing is just a rehash of the 'russians stole the election for trump' thing you've been agreeing with all along.

But hey - maybe 3 or 4 more posts desperately trying to deny what everyone knows and can see with their own eyes will make the facts change.

Anything else?   LOLOLOLOL

[BeaverFever]

10 hours ago, I am Groot said:

I have met a lot of immigrants and worked with a lot of immigrants and have a lot of immigrants as neighbours. Approximately NONE have left their homeland because of its conservative views. They came here for what they hoped would be an economically better life in a safe, ordered society. 

They certainly didn't come here to let their sons have sex with other boys or be taught that they could actually be girls if they want to be and helped along with that in school without their parents being informed much less consenting.

I’ve met plenty who came because they didn’t want to be in an arranged marriage or have to go to mosque every Friday or who just didn’t want to be in a stifling conservative monoculture and who just wanted to be free to dress and act how they please like the people in the Hollywood movies that they all see.  
 

Yeah they’re not all enthusiastic about gays and trannys neither am I for that matter but you don’t have to like or approve every lifestyle and identity out there to appreciate those people’s rights and the value of Canadians being able to choose their own lifestyle.  Id rather live in society where people are feee to pursue their own life Including tranny gay redneck whatever than live in a stifling conservative society where no diversity is tolerated and everyone is expected to live and appear in the same traditional way generation after generation. I think many immigrants feel the same. 

Edited June 12, 2023 by BeaverFever

[CdnFox]

5 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Yeah they’re not all enthusiastic about gays and trannys neither am I for that matter but you don’t have to like or approve every lifestyle and identity out there

That's the thing - that USED to be the deal, didn't it.  You didn't HAVE to approve of a lifestyle - but they did their thing and you did yours and where you had to interact you tried find common ground, not focus on the differences.

But NOT NOW.  Now  it is "UNCANADIAN" if you disagree with children being exposed to kink and nudity at pride parades.  It's jail or fines if you don't use someone's preferred pronouns. If you don't want your children to be exposed to kink and sexuality during trans story time, you're a nazi.

And - you have to pay for all this. Gay pride parade can't afford it's bills? no problem, the gov't will spend taxpayer dollars to help out.

And if you dare say anything about straights or whites then you're just the worst kind of evil.  "All lives matter" is a racist comment. "Families matter" is an attack on  the letter people.  Etc etc.

Sorry - for whatever reason they started a culture war and if we're being FORCED to take sides then i guess that's what's going to happen. This is no longer the Canada where we all respect each other. Justin saw to that.

[OftenWrong]

3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

I thought you were saying government should get out of the bedrooms of Canadians? Without policy, they're not doing anything just talking.

Pierre Trudeau said that because people were breaking the law by having consensual sex.

 

I showed you an article and explained that official policy is not their only means to create problems. Thought that was clear enough. What does he mean when he says "We have to stand against this." Who is we?

It doesn't seem like you read a lot and know what's going on. I'm not going to argue with your opinion.

[Americana Antifa]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

the whole 'stole the election' thing is just a rehash of the 'russians stole the election for trump' thing you've been agreeing with all along.

And now we've reached the part where you just lie about what I've said.

Angry incels gonna angry incel. ?‍♀️

[BeaverFever]

3 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

That's the thing - that USED to be the deal, didn't it.  You didn't HAVE to approve of a lifestyle - but they did their thing and you did yours and where you had to interact you tried find common ground, not focus on the differences.

But NOT NOW.  Now  it is "UNCANADIAN" if you disagree with children being exposed to kink and nudity at pride parades.  It's jail or fines if you don't use someone's preferred pronouns. If you don't want your children to be exposed to kink and sexuality during trans story time, you're a nazi.

And - you have to pay for all this. Gay pride parade can't afford it's bills? no problem, the gov't will spend taxpayer dollars to help out.

And if you dare say anything about straights or whites then you're just the worst kind of evil.  "All lives matter" is a racist comment. "Families matter" is an attack on  the letter people.  Etc etc.

Sorry - for whatever reason they started a culture war and if we're being FORCED to take sides then i guess that's what's going to happen. This is no longer the Canada where we all respect each other. Justin saw to that.

I don’t agree with your revisionist assessment at all.  You are free to dislike pride parades and tranny story time but when you start staging protests and boycotts because you won’t allow others to participate in those things you cross the line. Don’t forget conservatives hated gays and opposed same sex marriage long before JT was in the picture.
 

Do you not recall in the year 2000 conservative premier Ralph Klein actually invoked the notwithstanding clause to ban same sex marriage in Alberta?  What do you consider that?

Your blind spot is that you don’t consider it a divisive culture war when you conservatives punch other people in the face, you only consider it divisive when the other person punches you back. 

Conservatives throughout history have always been at war with changing culture that literally is what the word “conservative” means in the dictionary: “traditional, opposed to change” Therefore culture war is baked in to conservatism  The tranny hysteria today is just the 21st century version of the conservative outrage over Elvis’s swinging hips 70 years ago  

PS nobody has be jailed or fined over pronouns, that’s more fake news 

 

“All lives matter” is a racist slogan because it’s meant to invalidate the specific struggles faced by black peoples who feel they are treated as if their lives don’t matter. Imagine if I turned up at a “support the sick children” rally with bullhorn shouting “support all sick people!” and claimed it was discrimination against adults. 

[OftenWrong]

12 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

I don’t agree with your revisionist assessment at all.  You are free to dislike pride parades and tranny story time but when you start staging protests and boycotts because you won’t allow others to participate in those things you cross the line. Don’t forget conservatives hated gays and opposed same sex marriage long before JT was in the picture.
 

Do you not recall in the year 2000 conservative premier Ralph Klein actually invoked the notwithstanding clause to ban same sex marriage in Alberta?  What do you consider that?

Your blind spot is that you don’t consider it a divisive culture war when you conservatives punch other people in the face, you only consider it divisive when the other person punches you back. 

Conservatives throughout history have always been at war with changing culture that literally is what the word “conservative” means in the dictionary: “traditional, opposed to change” Therefore culture war is baked in to conservatism  The tranny hysteria today is just the 21st century version of the conservative outrage over Elvis’s swinging hips 70 years ago  

PS nobody has be jailed or fined over pronouns, that’s more fake news 

 

“All lives matter” is a racist slogan because it’s meant to invalidate the specific struggles faced by black peoples who feel they are treated as if their lives don’t matter. Imagine if I turned up at a “support the sick children” rally with bullhorn shouting “support all sick people!” and claimed it was discrimination against adults. 

The changes were eventually allowed and not all change is good. That's why conservatives play a role in limiting change and directing it in places where it may harm the least of us. Those who might get rolled over by liberals in their zeal to improve things.

In this case I'm for keeping the decision for a child to get a sex change as a family decision. It should not be a school boards decision, not a provincial one and certainly not Trudeau's decision either.

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, BeaverFever said:

I don’t agree with your revisionist assessment at all. 

I'm not sure you're using those words correctly - but i'll take a leap of faith. Which part of the 'history' did you disagree with?
 

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You are free to dislike pride parades and tranny story time but when you start staging protests and boycotts because you won’t allow others to participate in those things you cross the line.

 

Well i don't actually do any of those things  but  i'm free to do all of them. That's what freedom is.  If not - then we need to bring in gov'ts who will respect my rights and punish those who would take them.  ANd that's what people will work towards.  In the end the repressives always fail.  And that would be you at the moment.

And as we've seen with the protests getting bigger and stronger - i'm right.

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Don’t forget conservatives hated gays and opposed same sex marriage long before JT was in the picture.

VERY long before.  And they made peace with that and gave it up 20 years ago. Gays got it all - equal rights including marriage, pensions, etc etc.  They won completely and good for them. I was actually one of the conservatives fighting for their rights and demanding we drop that crap at the convention.

But this isn't about gays any more. This is about MY rights.

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Your blind spot is that you don’t consider it a divisive culture war when you conservatives punch other people in the face, you only consider it divisive when the other person punches you back. 

Like punch a nazi? Which is what the left is doing now?

YOU are the one with that blind spot. When their rights were taken away gay people decided to fight back. And they convinced enough people to win their rights.

NOW - they're STEALING OTHER PEOPLE"S RIGHTS.

And those people are starting to fight back. And guess what's going to happen.

 

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Conservatives throughout history have always been at war with changing culture that literally is what the word “conservative” means in the dictionary: “traditional, opposed to change” Therefore culture war is baked in to conservatism

That is wrong on many levels. First off - you're talking about conservatism from 100 -200 years ago. LONG ago the conservative movement became more about smaller gov't and people's rights - conserving their freedom.  The left USED to be about those things back in the day - keep gov't out of the people's lives and let them make choice. NOW it's about forcing their own ideology by force of law and taking away rights and compelling speech. 

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The tranny hysteria today is just the 21st century version of the conservative outrage over Elvis’s swinging hips 70 years ago  

Nope.  before it was fighting for their rights - now it's trying to steal other people's rights.

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PS nobody has be jailed or fined over pronouns, that’s more fake news 

PS i literally posed cases the other day in canada so you're a liar as well as a leftie.  But no need to repeat myself i guess.

 

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“All lives matter” is a racist slogan because it’s meant to invalidate the specific struggles faced by black peoples who feel they are treated as if their lives don’t matter. Imagine if I turned up at a “support the sick children” rally with bullhorn shouting “support all sick people!” and claimed it was discrimination against adults. 

Every bigot and racist has an excuse for their bigtory and racism - and you're no different.

[herbie]

How else does one start a culture war? One teacher said something therefore Trudeau ordered it so, it is law and as so is policy in stone of all 'leftists'.
Defend one's position by making statements analogous to 'I can't even bring my kids to a strip club without exposing them to tits and ass" and mention grooming of kids and child abuse as if they had anything at all to do with a school flying a Pride flag. Argue that getting arrested for burning Korans outside a Mosque is discrimination against Christians while you're at it.

Make sure to avoid showing the slightest respect for anyone who is no YOU as only YOU deserve to be left in peace.

[BeaverFever]

7 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

The changes were eventually allowed and not all change is good. That's why conservatives play a role in limiting change and directing it in places where it may harm the least of us. Those who might get rolled over by liberals in their zeal to improve things.

In this case I'm for keeping the decision for a child to get a sex change as a family decision. It should not be a school boards decision, not a provincial one and certainly not Trudeau's decision either.

“The changes were eventually allowed” 

LOL  In other words conservatives lost  because society always evolves and so the conservatives always lose in the end  You make it sound like society asked conservatives permission as the appointed guardians of society and conservatives eventually deigned to grant our wish. In reality change is always happening and conservatives always try and fail to stop it they don’t “direct it in places that harm the least of us” whatever that means

Literally nowhere on planet earth is a school board, a province, or Trudeau making the decision for a child to have a sex change.   More of your fantasy boogeymen. 

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, herbie said:

How else does one start a culture war? One teacher said something therefore Trudeau ordered it so, it is law and as so is policy in stone of all 'leftists'.

People who answer their own questions are so cute :)_  it's like they believe they're thinking or something

 

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Defend one's position by making statements analogous to 'I can't even bring my kids to a strip club without exposing them to tits and ass" and mention grooming of kids and child abuse as if they had anything at all to do with a school flying a Pride flag.

 

Lying about what people are concerned about just breeds more concerns.  You make things worse.  Currently there is a push to expose children to explicit sexual issues at an inappropriate age and people are concerned about that and would be regardless of the sexual orientation of the 'exposes'. 

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

“The changes were eventually allowed” 

LOL  In other words conservatives lost  because society always evolves

It doesn't always 'evolve' the way you think.

For example - libeals in the 70's would be horrified in today's 'liberals' views on free speech. The current repressive nature of the libs and their fondness of authoritarianism would not be considered 'evolution'.  But today's libs do,

And conservatives didn't "lose". They realized that their opposition wasn't in keeping with their values as conservatives. I know - i was there.  Many pointed out correctly that we could hardly call ourselves conservatives while denying other people's right to choice.

So the fight died out. Most conservatives realky weren't anti gay - many didn't like having 'marriage' as a term taken away but even then they didn't mind the gays having marriage rights, they just wanted to call it 'civil union'. And even they were told 'drop it' in the end.

Oh - reminder, the libs went to the courts looking to see if there was ways they could satisfy the courts instructions to allow gays to marry without calling it marriage. 

So lets not pretend the liberals were on board with this until they were forced to be by the courts

But it's one thing to give people rights - its another to have yours taken.

And a whole different 'evolution' may be about to be happening.  Keep it up and find out.