Muslims and Christians unite on the streets of Ottawa, trampling the Gender Ideology Flag

ironstone · June 24, 2023

On 6/23/2023 at 3:00 AM, Americana Antifa said:

The Daily Wire is cartoonishly fake news, so we'll disregard that. As for this claim from the National Post: 57 per cent agree schools should have to tell parents about their child’s desire to change their gender or pronouns.

That doesn't mean they're against kids learning that trans people exist. And that is what you mean when you say "pushed on children," you just mean that it's because taught to children.

Personally, I totally get where these people are coming from. If a child has signs of gender dysphoria, the parents should know right away so they can help them. But on the other hand, if the kid's parents are transphobic, not telling them might be the lesser evil. I think this should really be a case by case kinda thing. So yeah, I don't think it's anti-trans to think schools should have to tell the parents, I just don't think it should be standard policy.

Finally, you started this by saying that nobody said they did, but that was Zeitgeist's argument. That people are rejecting trans rights. The numbers actually show that people are still overwhelmingly in favor of trans rights and against the anti-trans bills, but there is some good faith disagreement over certain trans issues among this majority.

What else can people identify as? Can they identify as another race(Rachel Dolezal)? Can they identify as older or younger and it becomes fact? Can they identify as shorter or taller too?

Can a person even identify as an animal? Oh wait...I know you guys totally believe that one already. ‘A girl at our school has decided she identifies as a cat’ (telegraph.co.uk)

Talk about perverting science.

June 24, 2023

6 minutes ago, ironstone said:

What else can people identify as? Can they identify as another race(Rachel Dolezal)? Can they identify as older or younger and it becomes fact? Can they identify as shorter or taller too?

Can a person even identify as an animal? Oh wait...I know you guys totally believe that one already. ‘A girl at our school has decided she identifies as a cat’ (telegraph.co.uk)

Talk about perverting science.

There's a lot of people on this site who identify as rational, intelligent thinkers.

You can't control people's fantasies.

ironstone · June 24, 2023

1 minute ago, bcsapper said:

There's a lot of people on this site who identify as rational, intelligent thinkers.

You can't control people's fantasies.

But you didn't give an answer to my questions. I cannot control other people's fantasies. But it does not mean that I must be forced to accept their delusions.

June 24, 2023

1 minute ago, ironstone said:

But you didn't give an answer to my questions. I cannot control other people's fantasies. But it does not mean that I must be forced to accept their delusions.

I had no intention of giving you an answer to your question.

But that said, you can accept whatever you want.

I certainly don't accept the delusions of the people I mentioned in my post.

ironstone · June 24, 2023

21 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

I had no intention of giving you an answer to your question.

But that said, you can accept whatever you want.

I certainly don't accept the delusions of the people I mentioned in my post.

And I will not accept the delusions of people that think gender is fluid and that there are an infinite number of them.?

June 24, 2023

1 minute ago, ironstone said:

And I will not accept the delusions of people that think gender is fluid and that there are an infinite number of them.?

Damn right! You stand up for what you believe in!

Don't let anyone tell you different.

CdnFox · June 24, 2023

2 hours ago, ironstone said:

What else can people identify as? Can they identify as another race(Rachel Dolezal)? Can they identify as older or younger and it becomes fact? Can they identify as shorter or taller too?

Can a person even identify as an animal? Oh wait...I know you guys totally believe that one already. ‘A girl at our school has decided she identifies as a cat’ (telegraph.co.uk)

Talk about perverting science.

Good question Mortal.

Americana Antifa · June 24, 2023

7 hours ago, ironstone said:

What else can people identify as? Can they identify as another race(Rachel Dolezal)? Can they identify as older or younger and it becomes fact? Can they identify as shorter or taller too?

No, because those things aren't social constructs based on culture. Age has a cultural element in that we decide when someone is young or old, but a 50 year old has objectively been alive for 50 years. So it's not the same as gender, which is defined by cultural tropes, not time.

7 hours ago, ironstone said:

Can a person even identify as an animal? Oh wait...I know you guys totally believe that one already. ‘A girl at our school has decided she identifies as a cat’ (telegraph.co.uk)

Talk about perverting science.

OMG. You seriously fell for the litter box meme?!

Americana Antifa · June 24, 2023

16 hours ago, CdnFox said:

It's easily verified -so verify if it doesn't seem valid. But you can't just label it as false because of the source. Sorry.

They never include their sources and when they do, it's other fake news sites like Info Wars or Breitbart. Sorry.

16 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Repeating a lie doesn't make it true kiddo

Calm down, mommy issues. I know you're mad, but blaming feminism won't help.

16 hours ago, CdnFox said:

And Remember: Every time you need to rewrite what the person actually said by saying "and that's what you really mean" You've already admitted that you're wrong.

So if you dog whistle, and I clarify what the dog whistle means, I'm actually admitting that I'm wrong? That makes no sense.

16 hours ago, CdnFox said:

What you really want is the right to be able to wave someone's penis in front of the child as we've seen at the gay pride parades.

Wait, aren't you now doing what you're claiming I'm doing?

This is the problem with lying so much. You're having a hard time remembering your lies.

Edited June 24, 2023 by Americana Antifa

CdnFox · June 25, 2023

8 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

They never include their sources and when they do, it's other fake news sites like Info Wars or Breitbart. Sorry.

They literally provided their source and the information is still from a credible group. So - you can disprove it if it isn't true. Sorry.

If you're going to lie, couldn't you make it SLIGHTLY leff obvious that it's a lie?

I am Groot · June 25, 2023

14 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

No, because those things aren't social constructs based on culture.

Gender is not a social construct. It has always been synonymous with sex and is treated so in law. There are only two sexes and only two genders. Anything else is fantasy, the product of ideology, narcissism, and mental illness.

ironstone · June 25, 2023

15 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

OMG. You seriously fell for the litter box meme?!

Meet the 20-Year-Old Norwegian Woman Who Identifies As a Cat (mediaite.com)

I've heard about small children identifying as this or that, but they shouldn't be encouraged. When an adult does it...yikes!

And gender is not a social construct either. Are you going to tell us that biological males that identify as women can bear children?

June 25, 2023

11 minutes ago, ironstone said:

Meet the 20-Year-Old Norwegian Woman Who Identifies As a Cat (mediaite.com)

I've heard about small children identifying as this or that, but they shouldn't be encouraged. When an adult does it...yikes!

Put her in an animal shelter until her owner shows up to claim her.

Make sure she's spayed first.

Edited June 25, 2023 by bcsapper

I am Groot · June 25, 2023

The weird, wacky world of the Left's refusal to accept that men are not women.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12218911/University-Wyoming-sorority-slams-sisters-suing-6ft2-260lb-trans-member.html

Edited June 25, 2023 by I am Groot

CdnFox · June 25, 2023

43 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

Gender is not a social construct. It has always been synonymous with sex and is treated so in law. There are only two sexes and only two genders. Anything else is fantasy, the product of ideology, narcissism, and mental illness.

Gender is TOTALLY a social construct - you remember that time we all voted on it right? Where we all said "You know, what we really need is something that's like people's sex but is different but isn't because it would make life SO much easier." You remember that right?

I'd love to meet this person who apperently woke up one day and decided to 'construct' gender. I mean, I thought the guy who came up with the "flowbie" hair cutting system was a little nuts but "gender construction person" has that guy beat to hell.

eyeball · June 25, 2023

47 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

The weird, wacky world of the Left's refusal to accept that men are not women.

I'm a lefty and I get the biological silliness but I just don't care one way or another. It's takes too much effort.

Zeitgeist · June 25, 2023

30 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I'm a lefty and I get the biological silliness but I just don't care one way or another. It's takes too much effort.

I think that’s a very widespread sentiment, but our complaisance has enabled a reality where women’s and religious people’s rights are ignored and children are being taught dubious beliefs. Certain rights were inscribed without much fanfare or input and are being given a place of dominance over other rights and considerations. People are now questioning why they should put up symbols of ideas to which they never agreed that run counter to their values.

Edited June 25, 2023 by Zeitgeist

Army Guy · June 25, 2023

17 hours ago, Americana Antifa said:

No, because those things aren't social constructs based on culture. Age has a cultural element in that we decide when someone is young or old, but a 50 year old has objectively been alive for 50 years. So it's not the same as gender, which is defined by cultural tropes, not time.

OMG. You seriously fell for the litter box meme?!

And here i thought your gender was based in science. much like age, Race, and time Not by some cultural tropes as you said which are pretty much universal across the globe...unlike this new fade to pretend their are unlimited amount of genders...based on fantasy and not science.

Actually no one really cares what you want to call yourself in private, you could identify as a pink unicorn for all that it matters....where they disagree is forcing them to play along in their fantasy world, that and having serious companies such's as banks, major corporations and all levels of government buying into the fantasy...Thats where sane people should be say WTF...but they are not interested in if the matter makes sense or is based in reality... but rather more interested in not getting canceled. I mean this community makes up a small part of the nation, but they are controlling the narrative...and we are being told over and over again, that this is the new agenda, and science has it all wrong... to ensure it will survive it is now part of our schools teaching practices to which we teach the children.

CdnFox · June 25, 2023

4 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

I think that’s a very widespread sentiment, but our complaisance has enabled a reality where women’s and religious people’s rights are ignored and children are being taught dubious beliefs.

That would be the challenge right there. For years it was "Why should I care about this again?" I mean there are silly people everywhere, what made these silly people special? If they want to do or say something that's their own business.

But now they are demanding to include the children. And they are demanding that even the adults participate in their activities or face censure or job-related issues. So suddenly now people have to take a side. And even people who were not against them at all are being forced to consider taking a polarized position.

I am Groot · June 25, 2023

Muslims protest outside PMO chanting 'leave our children alone"

https://thecountersignal.com/leave-our-kids-alone-protests-continue-across-canada/

Zeitgeist · June 26, 2023

Nothing to worry about?

https://www.newsweek.com/video-drag-marchers-chanting-viral-1808870?amp=1

June 26, 2023

8 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Nothing to worry about?

https://www.newsweek.com/video-drag-marchers-chanting-viral-1808870?amp=1

I don't think the economy will suffer too much if trans people don't go shopping. There's just not that many of them.

herbie · June 26, 2023

26 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

don't think the economy will suffer too much if trans people don't go shopping. There's just not that many of them.

You'd be led to think otherwise by today's advertising.... but then again the people upset are dumb enough to believe advertisements....

eyeball · June 26, 2023

8 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

I think that’s a very widespread sentiment, but our complaisance has enabled a reality where women’s and religious people’s rights are ignored and children are being taught dubious beliefs.

Our world is saturated with dubious beliefs and outright nonsense all to often forced on society by religious people who saw it as a duty to do so. We're barely out of the stone age as a species and the slice of time we call the modern age is pretty razor thin. I don't think we just shuck off thousands of years of deeply ingrained deluded thinking and transform into a rational society in just a few short centuries.

8 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

Certain rights were inscribed without much fanfare or input and are being given a place of dominance over other rights and considerations. People are now questioning why they should put up symbols of ideas to which they never agreed that run counter to their values

I've noticed the more that people push against change the harder and faster the changes come. I'm pretty sure there's a direct correlation, especially when it involves politics, morals and sex.

Edited June 26, 2023 by eyeball

SpankyMcFarland · June 26, 2023

Trampling on a flag already sounds a bit unhinged. The thing is that every country has gay people but many force them to hide who they are. As a civilized state Canada doesn’t do that and if you can’t accept such tolerance of difference this may not be the right place for you. Perhaps a short video might help?

https://www.foxnews.com/story/dutch-immigrants-must-watch-racy-film

Edited June 26, 2023 by SpankyMcFarland