What are your Most Controversial Opinions?

[psikeyhackr]

On 5/1/2023 at 10:22 AM, ExFlyer said:

The world does not owe you anything.

No free ride.

It is not the governments fault.

You are not the centre of the universe.

 

But it was OK for the government to steal all of the land though everybody has to live somewhere. Palefaces accept slavery to governments.

[ExFlyer]

6 minutes ago, psikeyhackr said:

But it was OK for the government to steal all of the land though everybody has to live somewhere. Palefaces accept slavery to governments.

The topic and question is "What are your Most Controversial Opinions" and those are mine.

Lets not go down the "slavery" road. Indigenous that conquered other tribes also enslaved. Indigenous government or todays government....same.

Lets not try and be too righteous.  https://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.ca/en/article/slavery-of-indigenous-people-in-canada

[reason10]

This is a fresh approach. By all means.

-I don't believe there is such a thing as a subject matter that can't be made into a joke. If you don't like jokes that don't offend you, don't attend a comedy club.

Comedy clubs have GOT to be the last bastians of Free Speech in America. Laughter is probably the healthiest thing a human could engage in. ANYTHING that will make you laugh is cool. Of course, I turn off the comics who go RIGHT TO BASHING Trump, because they are basically lazy. My choice only. I wouldn't shut down the comedy club that hires them. ANYTHING that makes you laugh is good. 

-I can't stand the soft penalties I often see for drinking and driving. Penalties for one who does so and causes a crash, should be very severe. No exceptions.

I think you need to read some state statutes. There are NO soft penalties for drunk driving. (Well, today it is now called driving under the influence, which means you can get high on pot and get a DUI if you are impaired.)  A simple DUI will cost you a minimum of $10K and the loss of your driver's license, either up to a year or permanently if it is habitual. There goes your transportation to work, so your ability to keep a roof over your family's heads is greatly impaired.

If there is a crash, the penalties add up.  There is such a thing as vehicular homicide, which means a lot of prison time and a felony record. I promise you that (at least in the State of Florida) there are no SOFT penalties for driving under the influence.

 

[CdnFox]

On 4/25/2023 at 11:15 AM, TreeBeard said:

For this forum, it seems to be a radical opinion to believe experts over conspiracy theorists.  

True. But we like you anyway

[CdnFox]

I like pinapple on pizza and i don't care what anyone says.  ( i don't even know how this became 'controversial' )

I would say that my most controversial is that 911 was a legitimate military attack, not a 'terrorist' attack.  All the targets were either military or things that funded the military and allowed the nation to make war or were leadership.  They went after the economy, the president, the pentagon.  While they didn't technically have a country, they were basically part of the Afghan political infrastructure and people so this was more country to country. They were responding to what they perceived as American interference with their country.

I still think it was disgusting and horrible and that they should have been rounded up and slaughtered for it but i believe it's wrong to call it a terrorist attack.

[Guest]

49 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I like pinapple on pizza and i don't care what anyone says.  ( i don't even know how this became 'controversial' )

I love pineapple on pizza.  Best pizza I ever had was mainly pineapple and artichoke hearts.

[CdnFox]

32 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

I love pineapple on pizza.  Best pizza I ever had was mainly pineapple and artichoke hearts.

Right? And hawaiian pizza was invented in Canada! Apparently there's a lot of people right now who think you're going straight to pizza hell for even suggesting it.

[impartialobserver]

Another way that I differ from everybody on here (and everybody I have ever encountered on internet forums) is that I could not care less about abortion. 

[reason10]

32 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

Another way that I differ from everybody on here (and everybody I have ever encountered on internet forums) is that I could not care less about abortion. 

Abortion certainly is a hot button issue. Roe V. Wade was Excedrin Headache #500 to have to read.

What is so funny is watching those ugly left wing beeches RAIL about protecting abortion when it's pretty clear they're too fat and ugly for some male to want to impregnate them to begin with.

The only real problem mainstream conservatives have about Abortion is the Margaret Sanger angle, (the Nazi who founded Planned Parenthood, and whose Eugenics ideas led to the HOLOCAUST.) That's some pretty uncomfortable material to have to delve into.

[impartialobserver]

17 minutes ago, reason10 said:

Abortion certainly is a hot button issue. Roe V. Wade was Excedrin Headache #500 to have to read.

What is so funny is watching those ugly left wing beeches RAIL about protecting abortion when it's pretty clear they're too fat and ugly for some male to want to impregnate them to begin with.

The only real problem mainstream conservatives have about Abortion is the Margaret Sanger angle, (the Nazi who founded Planned Parenthood, and whose Eugenics ideas led to the HOLOCAUST.) That's some pretty uncomfortable material to have to delve into.

it gets people all sorts of worked up when I tell them I could not care less about the topic. Roe vs. Wade being overturned.. meh.. Denver Nuggets making it to the NBA Finals for the first time ever, now that is interesting

[Guest]

2 hours ago, reason10 said:

I wouldn't shut down the comedy club that hires them.

Thats the thing. You don't like the joke, you find another club. 

I remember Daniel Tosh making a joke about a girl who got hit by a car and killed, and brought a different perspective of what he thought of the speed bumps they built in her honor. Essentially mimicking her parents in what he felt would be them crying, every time they run over them, where she was killed.

Dark as F, but his timing was impeccable, so the crowd roared with laughter. 

I have yet to see a subject that couldn't be laughed at.

Regarding Trump, if you go straight to his being a horrible president, I find it lazy, but if creative, like a roast I saw about him, where even he laughed at the zingers, I think its all fun and games.

I look at Jimmy Kimmel as an example. His jokes suck, because he is furious at Trump. So it comes across as disingenuous. 

If your intent is to make everyone laugh, then to me, the jokes are fair game as their intent will typically make them that much funnier.

[Guest]

3 hours ago, reason10 said:

I promise you that (at least in the State of Florida) there are no SOFT penalties for driving under the influence.

There should be zero soft penalties anywhere.

Fine, life sucks so you're an alcoholic. You knowing are one, and get behind the wheel should carry with it the same level of severity to the sentence as someone knowingly and deliberately tampering with your food at a fast food restaurant.

I remember a Burger King came under fire, for an employee feeling it was funny, to pull down their pants and wipe their bum with the buns, prior to preparing the burgers.

His consequences were serious, not only from the restaurant chain, but the law as well.

You take someone's life knowingly driving impaired to me, should carry with it similar sentences as me cleaning my gun in a busy restaurant and it going off. That level of stupidity should carry with it a very long time off of the streets. 

[reason10]

2 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Thats the thing. You don't like the joke, you find another club. 

I remember Daniel Tosh making a joke about a girl who got hit by a car and killed, and brought a different perspective of what he thought of the speed bumps they built in her honor. Essentially mimicking her parents in what he felt would be them crying, every time they run over them, where she was killed.

Dark as F, but his timing was impeccable, so the crowd roared with laughter. 

I have yet to see a subject that couldn't be laughed at.

Regarding Trump, if you go straight to his being a horrible president, I find it lazy, but if creative, like a roast I saw about him, where even he laughed at the zingers, I think its all fun and games.

I look at Jimmy Kimmel as an example. His jokes suck, because he is furious at Trump. So it comes across as disingenuous. 

If your intent is to make everyone laugh, then to me, the jokes are fair game as their intent will typically make them that much funnier.

If you look at the very FIRST controversial comedian in history (The author of "How To Talk Dirty and Influence People--Lenny Bruce) you see a lot of things put in motion with his act. (And the guy was a clumsy comedian, rarely funny, but always making headlines with his controversial political views as well as drug use.)  If you wonder where George Carlin got 90 percent of his act, it would seem that Carlin got himself arrested along with Lenny Bruce one night. (It was a raid on a club where Bruce was appearing. The cops demanded everyone show ID before letting them leave the club. Carlin became a smartass and said he didn't believe in ID, so the cops threw him in the same cop car as Bruce. Lenny then turned to him and said "You don't want any of this shit, man."  It's ironic that many years later, George Carlin became a very successful comedian, and A LOT FUNNIER THAN BRUCE.

[reason10]

3 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

There should be zero soft penalties anywhere.

Fine, life sucks so you're an alcoholic. You knowing are one, and get behind the wheel should carry with it the same level of severity to the sentence as someone knowingly and deliberately tampering with your food at a fast food restaurant.

I remember a Burger King came under fire, for an employee feeling it was funny, to pull down their pants and wipe their bum with the buns, prior to preparing the burgers.

His consequences were serious, not only from the restaurant chain, but the law as well.

You take someone's life knowingly driving impaired to me, should carry with it similar sentences as me cleaning my gun in a busy restaurant and it going off. That level of stupidity should carry with it a very long time off of the streets. 

I've actually had experiences with three alcoholics. Watched two of them die horribly from liver failure. It's not a pretty sight. Thing is, an alcoholic is not in charge. The booze is. And a recovering alcoholic can never touch a drop again. It's not about life sucking so one just becomes an alcoholic. There are a lot of drunks out there who drink every night but are able to go weeks without a drop. An alcoholic trying to dry out alone will suffer DTs, which is even more dangerous than heroin withdrawal. I've seen it. My alcoholic sister in law (who by the way has been dry now for over 30 years) almost died because the hospital had trouble stablizing her due to the DTs.

You're right about one thing: STUPID SHOULD HURT. 

[Guest]

3 hours ago, bcsapper said:

I love pineapple on pizza.  Best pizza I ever had was mainly pineapple and artichoke hearts.

Best pineapple pizza I have ever tried, was in the Philippines under their Yellow Cab franchise.

The pineapple was sliced fresh. Most pizzerias I have tried do theirs canned. Its a night and day difference.

[Guest]

10 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Best pineapple pizza I have ever tried, was in the Philippines under their Yellow Cab franchise.

The pineapple was sliced fresh. Most pizzerias I have tried do theirs canned. Its a night and day difference.

True.  I've made my own with fresh pineapple, and they're great.

[TreeBeard]

5 hours ago, impartialobserver said:

it gets people all sorts of worked up when I tell them I could not care less about the topic. Roe vs. Wade being overturned.. meh.. Denver Nuggets making it to the NBA Finals for the first time ever, now that is interesting

I can see how caring about sports more than the rights of your fellow humans could be controversial!   Women dying from lack of healthcare?   Meh!  Flip to the sport section!

Good example!

[impartialobserver]

21 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

I can see how caring about sports more than the rights of your fellow humans could be controversial!   Women dying from lack of healthcare?   Meh!  Flip to the sport section!

Good example!

Unlike everyone else I have encountered on chat forums... I do not pretend to care about every topic. Not every topic needs or demands my proverbial 2 cents. 

[Guest]

On 6/7/2023 at 11:42 AM, impartialobserver said:

I could not care less about abortion

I never understood the anger that is on both sides about this topic. 

I remember voting for a politician and then was scolded from a woman because didnt: "you look into his stance on abortion?!"

I didn't want to be rude, but my thought was, "Uh, I couldn't care less."

I then got the typical answer to that: "what if you had a daughter, and she got raped and got pregnant?"

To me, last thing on my mind would be the abortion. 

First thing on my mind, would be finding the guy before the police did.

I still wouldn't care about abortion. Or at least wouldn't be angry about it.

[CdnFox]

7 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

I never understood the anger that is on both sides about this topic. 

I remember voting for a politician and then was scolded from a woman because didnt: "you look into his stance on abortion?!"

I didn't want to be rude, but my thought was, "Uh, I couldn't care less."

I then got the typical answer to that: "what if you had a daughter, and she got raped and got pregnant?"

To me, last thing on my mind would be the abortion. 

First thing on my mind, would be finding the guy before the police did.

I still wouldn't care about abortion. Or at least wouldn't be angry about it.

It only becomes important if you have strong beliefs towards one or another point. IF you genuinely believe that people are humans at the moment of  conception (or at least before whatever the legal age of abortion is) then  what we're talking about here is killing children.   Nobody's pro child murder. I'm sure if you heard that the gov't was walking into preschools and cutting the heads off of the children there with a machete you'd have a strong opinion about that.

If you don't believe that then what's happening is no different than having a cyst removed and who gets worked up over that?

Likewise, if you are rabidly of the opinion that the slightest infringement on a "woman's right"  to an abortion is an actual 'right' and that if it falls women will soon lose all their other rights and be barefoot in the kitchen and not voting,  that's a pretty serious issue.  Losing our rights should ALWAYS upset us and people should always stand against that

On the other hand if you don't consider it to be a 'right' any more than we have a 'right' to a colonoscopy or any other medical procedure then you probably care less.

 

[impartialobserver]

7 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

I never understood the anger that is on both sides about this topic. 

I remember voting for a politician and then was scolded from a woman because didnt: "you look into his stance on abortion?!"

I didn't want to be rude, but my thought was, "Uh, I couldn't care less."

I then got the typical answer to that: "what if you had a daughter, and she got raped and got pregnant?"

To me, last thing on my mind would be the abortion. 

First thing on my mind, would be finding the guy before the police did.

I still wouldn't care about abortion. Or at least wouldn't be angry about it.

If my daughter was raped.. like you my first thought would be finding the guy who did this. Second, would be tending to her emotional and physical needs as much as I can. Lastly, I would trust that she can make the decision to have an abortion or not. 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

It only becomes important if you have strong beliefs towards one or another point.

I do. I strongly believe in freedom of choice. I just don't understand why I should be angry at someone for being pro life.

I see it like religion. My wife is God fearing. 

Am agnostic at best. Maybe slightly spiritual.

She doesn't shove her beliefs down my throat. I respect her beliefs, even having gone to church with her. 

She knows I will never convert back, so she respects mine.

As a result, she can talk about God, without me rolling my eyes, or intersecting with it being "make believe" and I can openly tell her why I don't go to church, nor believe in God.

Am a highly logical thinker. 

So it logically makes no sense to be angry at her for her beliefs I disagree with.

Where I draw the line, is having those beliefs driven down my throat, to the tune of being forced to convert.

Then I will dig in my heels and the person attempting will realize why when approached in such a fashion my mother once told me my head must have been made of granite. 

I was on a hunger strike as a kid as I hate pulp in my OJ. She said no supper if I didn't finish.

So I went on strike. She felt she could outwait me. That I wouldn't last a couple of hours.

At that young age, I was preparing myself to starve to death. 

Upon realizing this, she had no choice. She had to buy pulp free, moving forwards.

[eyeball]

I think everyone in government from deputy ministers on up should wear body cams for the same reason police do - public mistrust.

[herbie]

That everyone who blindly follows "policy" should be shot.

[Guest]

On 6/7/2023 at 8:36 AM, psikeyhackr said:

But it was OK for the government to steal all of the land though everybody has to live somewhere.

If talking Canada, is it the Canadian government that stole the land?

If talking the US

 Is it the American government that stole the land?