Why Does 40% Of Gen Z Identify as LGBT?

[impartialobserver]

Just for a second.. ponder this reality. in 2023.. having children is not an absolute certainty for someone. In 1923.. only the rarest of exceptions lived a life and did not procreate. 2023.. folks are waiting to have kids or simply not having them at all. That is radically different from 1923 when by age 18.. you had better be making the kids or have it on the agenda soon... Just think for a second (I know for some, that is difficult.. they are too busy blasting away telling everyone how they are perfect and everyone else is an id10t) and think about how that impacts their view on sexuality. 

[herbie]

On 4/12/2023 at 8:15 AM, Deluge said:

A stark reminder that parents need to pull their heads out of their a$$es. That figure should be around 3% or less across the board. 

In your homophobic dreams. Kinsey reported around 10% homosexuals in the 1950s, when how many would even admit it under such persecuting times?

And that's just gays... way more bis than gays...

It's just sex. Something people do like poop or pee. And certainly nothing of your concern.

[Perspektiv]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

It's just sex. Something people do like poop or pee. And certainly nothing of your concern.

Unless someone chose to poop on my front lawn. I am then within my rights to not only judge, but to do something about it.

Keep your sex and self identity to yourself, and I don't see anyone having an issue with anyone.

Ram it down throats, and it inadvertently becomes not only a concern, but an annoyance.

Your logic is you looking down at me for shooing a crackhead for taking a shit near my car, downtown.

"She was minding her business"

No. She was doing her business. I should have run her over.

[herbie]

Ramming it down anyone's throat would be called rape. Then you really can complain. Actually having sex on your lawn or in a parking lot is public indecency.

Parading down the street in drag or teaching kids that the attitude you demonstrate is vile and antisocial is not ramming anything down your throat. If you don't want to ever see LBGTQ people turn off your TV, unhook your Internet and don't go outside in the real world.

Edited September 16, 2023 by herbie

[Michael Hardner]

7 hours ago, herbie said:

 

Parading down the street in drag or teaching kids that the attitude you demonstrate is vile and antisocial is not ramming anything down your throat. If you don't want to ever see LBGTQ people turn off your TV, unhook your Internet and don't go outside in the real world.

Hear hear.

All of these things are free expression and true conservatives protect it.

Fake conservative populists want to legislate a false image of the past into existence because they think it's natural.

[herbie]

What's the dictionary definition of conservative thinkers who glorify the past blame their economic situation on 'the left' and scapegoat a particular group?

Ain't "conservatives".

[Deluge]

On 9/15/2023 at 4:00 PM, herbie said:

In your homophobic dreams.

Sorry, pervert. Your queer fantasies are not science. If you're not born homosexual then you're not homosexual. 

Your ldiotic Kinsey report has been discredited multiple times. 

The actual numbers are around 3% for men, and 1.5% for women. Any number that claims to go beyond that is the result of indoctrination, and you scumbags excel at indoctrination.  

 

 

 

Edited September 17, 2023 by Deluge

[Perspektiv]

On 9/15/2023 at 10:22 PM, herbie said:

is not ramming anything down your throat

Sorry, but gender ideology is.

You're teaching kids who aren't even questioning, to question not only their sexuality which is perfectly normal, but also many who would now question their gender.

Fear mongering, socially shaming even medical specialists who could risk losing a license by speaking out.

Yup, sounds like jamming down a throat to me.

On 9/15/2023 at 10:22 PM, herbie said:

If you don't want to ever see LBGTQ people turn off your TV

Am asexual. I am part of the group. 

Even many within our group, are against the methods used,  to drive things down throats and the silencing of free speech. Not the people in the community.

I think its sad, that honest discussion is automatically dismissed as bigotry if it disagrees, which is essentially you proving my point. 

That is precisely what people are against, and even more, when kids are subjected to it behind their parents backs.

Its a free world. I couldn't care less what others do behind closed doors.

I draw the line at being gaslit about someone non factual, and risking doxxing or worse, in openly challenging it.

[herbie]

4 hours ago, Deluge said:

The actual numbers are around 3% for men, and 1.5% for women. Any number that claims to go beyond that is the result of indoctrination, and you scumbags excel at indoctrination. 

In your f*cking dreams buddie. In your f*cking dreams. Absolutely blind to reality and so blatantly bullshit only a troll would post such made up drivel.

[Deluge]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

In your f*cking dreams buddie. In your f*cking dreams. Absolutely blind to reality and so blatantly bullshit only a troll would post such made up drivel.

You're high, and so are the groomers you're whoring for. 

The homo revolution is already in decline.

[Michael Hardner]

53 minutes ago, Deluge said:

The homo revolution is already in decline.

A troll shares their true colours...

 

[OftenWrong]

On 3/4/2023 at 2:05 PM, Perspektiv said:

However, am sure just like all the "bi" girls I went to high school with who quickly grew out of it, are doing it to fit in.

I agree, this is a big part of what's going on at that age.

And illustrates the potential danger of manipulating the person when they are most vulnerable.

You have to look at things from the child or adolescent's point of view. Not your own as a mature educated adult. They're children.

Edited September 18, 2023 by OftenWrong

[Perspektiv]

1 hour ago, OftenWrong said:

They're children.

This is key. Thinking a child can choose a potentially permanent thing like their gender, is insane.

Ever ask a child what they would like to eat?

Better yet. Ask a kid to keep themselves busy, and see how far that gets you.

I have changed careers a dozen times as a kid, and a few as a young adult  before finding my lane.

Sorry, but yeah. I don't buy it. 

Let kids be kids.

Forcing do or die adult decisions onto them, and then having them feel pressured not to back out due to the outpouring of support that they get is a recipe for disaster.

[Deluge]

16 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

A troll shares their true colours...

So do tools.

[Yakuda]

On 9/15/2023 at 10:22 PM, herbie said:

Ramming it down anyone's throat would be called rape. Then you really can complain. Actually having sex on your lawn or in a parking lot is public indecency.

Parading down the street in drag or teaching kids that the attitude you demonstrate is vile and antisocial is not ramming anything down your throat. If you don't want to ever see LBGTQ people turn off your TV, unhook your Internet and don't go outside in the real world.

Its interesting how you're comfortable calling what others think vile but if they say what you think is perverted and evil you lose your sh*t. 

[Perspektiv]

1 hour ago, Yakuda said:

Its interesting how you're comfortable calling what others think vile but if they say what you think is perverted and evil you lose your sh*t. 

Also the "real world", which is the bulk of the planet, doesn't buy into this new ideology.

Being trans, gender dysphoria are real. Being gay. Intersex. 

What they are peddling since the early 2000's to bully legislators into allow things like biological men in prisons as "progress", is hogwash.

Get a passport in most countries, and you get to check off two boxes. Male. Female. Period.

Am in full support of the LGBTQ community, but the movement has been highjacked by the T portion of the equation.

You know you had too much enabling when trans women denounce lesbian women not wanting to date them as transphobic. Thats the epitome of insanity.

Its literally me arguing with you about filling my gas car with diesel at a gas station. 

"You will destroy your engine"

My car...identifies as a Diesel.

"But its built as a regular gasoline car. Not trying to be rude but.."

So you're discriminating against me?

*sigh* "Ok....how much Diesel would you like to buy?"

Nature doesn't work that way in the "real world".

Try a stunt like walking into a kids shower to shower with children, because you're a woman inside, in a country like Brazil, which like Thailand, have an immense and accepted trans community. You would get shot or beaten to death.

Am not calling for violence on these people, but pointing to how the rest of the world hasn't bought into what is being sold. 

Most just allow you to co-exist or couldn't care less, as long as you don't affect their lives.

In the west, those who are rational, just ridicule you behind closed doors and vote accordingly.

[Yakuda]

4 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Also the "real world", which is the bulk of the planet, doesn't buy into this new ideology.

Being trans, gender dysphoria are real. Being gay. Intersex. 

What they are peddling since the early 2000's to bully legislators into allow things like biological men in prisons as "progress", is hogwash.

Get a passport in most countries, and you get to check off two boxes. Male. Female. Period.

Am in full support of the LGBTQ community, but the movement has been highjacked by the T portion of the equation.

You know you had too much enabling when trans women denounce lesbian women not wanting to date them as transphobic. Thats the epitome of insanity.

Its literally me arguing with you about filling my gas car with diesel at a gas station. 

"You will destroy your engine"

My car...identifies as a Diesel.

"But its built as a regular gasoline car. Not trying to be rude but.."

So you're discriminating against me?

*sigh* "Ok....how much Diesel would you like to buy?"

Nature doesn't work that way in the "real world".

Try a stunt like walking into a kids shower to shower with children, because you're a woman inside, in a country like Brazil, which like Thailand, have an immense and accepted trans community. You would get shot or beaten to death.

Am not calling for violence on these people, but pointing to how the rest of the world hasn't bought into what is being sold. 

Most just allow you to co-exist or couldn't care less, as long as you don't affect their lives.

In the west, those who are rational, just ridicule you behind closed doors and vote accordingly.

People have lost their ever loving minds. 

[Michael Hardner]

27 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

1. Also the "real world", which is the bulk of the planet, doesn't buy into this new ideology.

2. Am in full support of the LGBTQ community...

1. There's that word again.  I read it and I immediately wonder what the poster is referring to.  It seems that everybody uses it differently, which I think is evidence of misuse.  Words need to mean things.
2. Of course you are, you're part of it.... asexual is part of the + right ?  So people who call it an ideology (other than you) are clearly referring to you... at least some of the time.  It would be like me railing on about white people (I'm white) because I don't consider myself white.  I don't care about the politics, the semantics makes me fall down...

[Michael Hardner]

Reading some criticism of this study... the term 'queer' is loosely defined.  Furthermore I couldn't find the study itself.  How they selected participants would be good to know.  Also other studies don't align with this one.

If a news source quotes "a new study"... they are likely not looking at other studies to compare, as the peer review would do.  If this is a trend, we'll know eventually.  

I'm more concerned about hetero cis- folks not wanting to have children.  That makes me very sad.  Our birthrates are plunging to historic lows.

[Perspektiv]

3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

I read it and I immediately wonder what the poster is referring to. 

Trans ideology.

3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

It seems that everybody uses it differently

Trans ideology is rather common, as is gender ideology.

3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Words need to mean things

They do.

3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

people who call it an ideology (other than you) are clearly referring to you.

I haven't seen any protests to protect asexual people. 

Closest movie to what many asexuals deal with, is the 40 year old virgin. 

Not having or wanting kids, have never had me call someone asexualophobic.

They're clearly referring to the T and gender proponents of the movement. Both parts which are parts of an ideology or woke culture. 

3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

hetero cis

You mean biologically male and female, right?

Hetero cis sounds like some type of bone disease.

[DUI_Offender]

On 3/5/2023 at 6:13 AM, Michael Hardner said:

1. And yet they're just saying what you said here.

2. What is the actual rate?  Maybe without stigma - this is it.

It's 7.1%

 

https://news.gallup.com/poll/389792/lgbt-identification-ticks-up.aspx

 

....or 5.5%

 

https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/adult-lgbt-pop-us/

Edited January 23 by DUI_Offender