A Study of the CURRENT State of Liberal and Conservative Ideologies

[Nationalist]

55 minutes ago, Hodad said:

What is the point of that link? Remedial vandalism and bog stupid people are the same demographic? 

But you do make a good point. I will go to my grave believing well researched and reasoned arguments supported by data. While you'll go to your grave believing a bumper sticker instead. That surely sums up the difference between us.

The point is...most people already know who's primarily to blame for high gas and oil prices. And blowing up Nordstream didn't help any.

But ya...you be you.

[Hodad]

31 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

The point is...most people already know who's primarily to blame for high gas and oil prices. And blowing up Nordstream didn't help any.

But ya...you be you.

Utter nonsense. You might argue that the ignorant are going to blame Biden anyway, and that it's a political problem. That much is true. 

But it is patently false to claim that most people "know" the cause of higher gas and oil prices. They don't. Like you, they have no understanding of supply, demand and pricing in a global market.

[Nationalist]

4 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Utter nonsense. You might argue that the ignorant are going to blame Biden anyway, and that it's a political problem. That much is true. 

But it is patently false to claim that most people "know" the cause of higher gas and oil prices. They don't. Like you, they have no understanding of supply, demand and pricing in a global market.

Unfortunately...you're dead wrong and that's that. Were the markets only driven by supply and demand...which they are not...you'd still be dead wrong.

[Hodad]

4 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Unfortunately...you're dead wrong and that's that. Were the markets only driven by supply and demand...which they are not...you'd still be dead wrong.

So you say, ad nauseum, but you clearly lack the ability to mount any argument to support that claim, nor find data to support that would-be argument.

You've been invited many times to propose any economic mechanism by which Biden is driving up prices, and you cannot. Instead, you persist in babbling endlessly without saying much of anything. If you're content with that, who am I to stop you from showing the world your true colors?

 

[Nationalist]

1 minute ago, Hodad said:

So you say, ad nauseum, but you clearly lack the ability to mount any argument to support that claim, nor find data to support that would-be argument.

You've been invited many times to propose any economic mechanism by which Biden is driving up prices, and you cannot. Instead, you persist in babbling endlessly without saying much of anything. If you're content with that, who am I to stop you from showing the world your true colors?

 

No...I did show the evidence. But right on queue...you close your eyes and refuse to read it.

A very childish reaction but again...you be you son.

[Hodad]

1 minute ago, Nationalist said:

No...I did show the evidence. But right on queue...you close your eyes and refuse to read it.

A very childish reaction but again...you be you son.

Lol. Linking a story about ignorant fools putting stickers on gas pumps = evidence of a secret economic lever that Biden manipulates. ?

Can you articulate anything, anything at all, to support your claims? Use your words like a big boy? Apparently you're not embarrassed by this deficiency, which I just don't understand. You just keep posting to highlight it. 

[Nationalist]

3 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Lol. Linking a story about ignorant fools putting stickers on gas pumps = evidence of a secret economic lever that Biden manipulates. ?

Can you articulate anything, anything at all, to support your claims? Use your words like a big boy? Apparently you're not embarrassed by this deficiency, which I just don't understand. You just keep posting to highlight it. 

What point would there be? You'll just ignore it and claim the opposite.

I had kids who acted like you. Then they grew up...thank Gawd.

Again Hodad...you be you dear.

[Hodad]

6 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

What point would there be? You'll just ignore it and claim the opposite.

I had kids who acted like you. Then they grew up...thank Gawd.

Again Hodad...you be you dear.

The point would be so that you don't continue to look like a blathering fool. 

I haven't simply claimed anything. I've provided you with data that backs up everything I've said. I've given you authoritative charts and graphs, tables, current and historical data and on and on. And yes, that indeed does show that reality is exact opposite of the claims you made. 

[Nationalist]

3 hours ago, Hodad said:

The point would be so that you don't continue to look like a blathering fool. 

I haven't simply claimed anything. I've provided you with data that backs up everything I've said. I've given you authoritative charts and graphs, tables, current and historical data and on and on. And yes, that indeed does show that reality is exact opposite of the claims you made. 

 

This is the "Groovy Guy of the Day" award.

You win it today. Now please stop bugging me with your back-assedwards ideas of markets and market influences.

Have a warm and fuzzy day.

[Hodad]

8 hours ago, Nationalist said:

 

This is the "Groovy Guy of the Day" award.

You win it today. Now please stop bugging me with your back-assedwards ideas of markets and market influences.

Have a warm and fuzzy day.

Oh you have a lovely day too. Offer stands if you can put in the effort to come up with even a single economic rationale.

[OftenWrong]

12 hours ago, Hodad said:

You've been invited many times to propose any economic mechanism by which Biden is driving up prices, and you cannot. Instead, you persist in babbling endlessly without saying much of anything. If you're content with that, who am I to stop you from showing the world your true colors?

No one actually cares whatever it is you think you're showing us. It should be a discussion, not stupid back-and-forth. You get that, dick head?

Everyone knows that Biden's war in the Ukraine is raising the price of diesel, and that's a major factor in why the price of all goods is going up. There was already a shortage before the war, and now this is taking us over the top. Sanctions on Russian gas have created a shortage in Europe. Really, who knew? And from there the whole house of cards starts coming apart.

 

[Hodad]

Just now, OftenWrong said:

No one actually cares whatever it is you think you're showing us. It should be a discussion, not stupid back-and-forth. You get that, dick head?

Everyone knows that Biden's war in the Ukraine is raising the price of diesel, and that's a major factor in why the price of all goods is going up. There was already a shortage before the war, and now this is taking us over the top. Sanctions on Russian gas have created a shortage in Europe. Really, who knew? And from there the whole house of cards starts coming apart.

 

Hey "dick head" a discussion IS back and forth and in a discussion both parties DO care what the other shows. Jeebus, and I thought I'd already met the runt of the litter.

Biden's war in Ukraine? ? 

Are you posting from mother Russia, or just carrying Putin's water?

 

[OftenWrong]

1 hour ago, Hodad said:

Hey "dick head" a discussion IS back and forth and in a discussion both parties DO care what the other shows. Jeebus, and I thought I'd already met the runt of the litter.

Biden's war in Ukraine? ? 

Are you posting from mother Russia, or just carrying Putin's water?

 

You probably didn't even know there was a war, because your ass is sitting in a comfortable Starbucks all day. Doing homework on your laptop. Gete lost kid, do not try to come here and pretend you know something.

Your mommy probably pays all your bills anyway,

 

[Hodad]

15 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

You probably didn't even know there was a war, because your ass is sitting in a comfortable Starbucks all day. Doing homework on your laptop. Gete lost kid, do not try to come here and pretend you know something.

Your mommy probably pays all your bills anyway,

 

It's so, so sad that you think this^^ passes for clever. Bless your heart.❤️

[OftenWrong]

9 minutes ago, Hodad said:

It's so, so sad that you think this^^ passes for clever. Bless your heart.❤️

No clever is getting told there's Uncle Joe's war in the Ukraine when you forgot about it.

Move along, sonny bozo

[Nationalist]

3 hours ago, Contrarian said:

Ha, this is coming from a man which said people had it good during the Soviet times. It was peace and harmony then, right? 

So what is stopping you from just going there now since you take issues with the West standing against a medieval force invading another sovereign country in 2023?

When everything fails, he resorts to something about bills and economics. Yah, okii. You are a capitalist my friend? With your views on the Soviet Union, are you a capitalist at all after those statements about the Soviet Union and your constant rallies against "them", "the elites"? That sounds to me like Leninist proletariat language. 

When is the last time you worked in the private industry, in the real arena of work, and paid taxes through your nose?! When is the last time you got a bonus and the government took a lot of it like theirs? Have you walked the walk to lecture people about paying bills or did you benefit from some socialist programs in Canada? 

Another day in the internet of marxism where we are all equal in opinion sharing regardless of reality. 

unless you have a different perspective for me to read, so I can think about where you are coming from? Have a good day ahead and NATO is not going anywhere. The civilized world stands against Neanderthal Putin. 

Did you not get the memo?

The Soviet Union is long gone now.

If this turns into an ugly war that NATO is active in, will you go volunteer to fight? You talk a mean game, but do you have the balls to go get shot at?

Doubtful.

I suspect you're just another armchair warrior who's perfectly willing to let others fight your battles for you.

[Nationalist]

5 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

No, dogmatic, I just comment on reality.

I don't make up lies that I am a former diplomat to try to build credibility like you do to push populistic messages.

I won't volunteer, as I chose another career. There is a career for military men that chose to go in.

Why I am even talking to you?

You are someone that likes russian propaganda of a known discovered wagner bot and when cornered starts talking about anti-war messages?! 

haha

Is good some reasonable conservatives joined this board.

Please considering stoping using that name, you are clueless and are giving more % to the Liberal Party with your lack of knowledge.

Lol...you ran away from your home once. Now you want a full scale war to take place, but won't fight for what you profess to believe. Thus...you'll run away again.

Enjoy Canada...

[Nationalist]

26 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

I am enjoying it every day. Do you know why? Because ignorant fools like you have no say or power on my status. 

It is earned through hard work and the legal process. As for the contribution to this country? I am not a 60-year-old man (you said it) lying about his diplomatic status, pushing Russian disinformation with a Wagner bot, and having the name "Nationalist" which preaches an anti-Liberal message. 

A true conversative sits with a liberal and discusses ideas without falling into the emotional BIAS trap. 

A populist just talks like you talk. Not to worry, this radical centrist is here for you to remind people of your Curriculum Vitae. Unless, you come to reason, maybe in a few years as I suspect you are younger than what you are lying about. Your writing skills give you away. You just parrot what the radio and right wing sources say in the US. That's all you have.  

*giggle*

RUN AWAAAYYY!

You like to talk the talk...but will never walk the walk.

[Nationalist]

12 hours ago, Contrarian said:

I have a spot here for you at the radical center after you escape from your right-wing programming. 

?

This thread showed potential, a few more threads like this, you'll come around eventually. 

Like any organism which is sensing the gig is up, the populist virus inside you is reacting at times, but reason is making its way. 

Why are you so adverse to common sense.

[Nationalist]

What is "radical"?

Is it "radical" to to think men are men and women are women? Or that man can be women and women can be men?

Is it "radical" to think a nation should protect its border? Or that borders are irrelevant?

Is it "radical" to think actively halting production and use of our primary source of energy, before a full replacement exists? Or that it's OK to impose such resulting suffering, based on a bunch of people who made scary predictions, many times over, and are continually wrong?

And is it "radical" to think risking nuclear war, over a strip of land NATO has demonstrated no interest in? Or to risk nuclear war for said unwanted strip of land?

What is really "radical"?

[eyeball]

On 2/20/2023 at 2:47 AM, Nationalist said:

The naked truth is, since the day that blithering, blubbering ijit Biden took power, not a single thing he's done has resulted in a net positive impact on society.

Well, he's not Donald Trump.

[CdnFox]

17 hours ago, Contrarian said:

I am enjoying it every day. Do you know why? Because ignorant fools like you have no say or power on my status. 

Justin Trudeau would like a word with you....

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, Contrarian said:

You have no legitimacy to talk about this kind of stuff in my view. You are on visual record on this board assisting foreign posters in Russian disinformation. One, in particular, posted a Wagner job offer. You liked some of his posts in the past and PARTICIPATED in circulating the same information, Redacted, which the same Russian troll is pushing in Australia aside from his anti-Jewish, anti-Western messages. Look he even posted today using your same source: https://repolitics.com/forums/topic/41991-war-in-ukraine/?do=findComment&comment=1566539.

Sure, after, when he was exposed as being KGB old communist guard, he is not even in Canada, you turned around and said that you don't care about both sides of the conflict.

Now you are posing as this holy peace man who does not care about both sides.

• Also on record, a screenshot before you deleted your messages: 

So again, who are you fooling, populist? Come to reason and renounce your ways, I will have a spot for you here as mentioned before. This country is inclusive for people that are stuck in their limited perception too and use the internet via the name "Nationalist" thinking they have some sort of weight. 

PS: Also to remind you, in Czech Republic, a NATO former employee won, contrary to your lies that the populist, which made an alliance with the local Communists had a chance. Here is the link in case you forgot: 

https://repolitics.com/forums/topic/43187-czechs-vote-after-the-war-division-over-foreign-policy-gets-a-public-platform/page/2/#comment-1559602

And why should I care what your opinion of me is? Why don't you answer at least 1 of my questions? Because you can't.

Your attacks on me, only show that you're out of ammo. So you stoop to posting half-quotes of mine out of context. A level of desperation and intellectual rot I could never allow myself to sink to. I have too much self respect to wallow that low. 

So is it "radical" to present the dry facts and naked truth of matters? Or to warp both facts and truth to suit a desired narrative?

I'll leave you with a final thought.

Is it "radical" to view a newly elected leader who's first act is to ban news media, as authoritarian? Or to ignore the obvious and herald this new leader as a hero of freedom?

[Nationalist]

4 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

You are still missing the point here:

The key in society is to stand against government overreach WITHOUT losing your balance AND PARTICIPATING IN FOREIGN DISINFORMATION. I wrote in caps lock, hopefully, it clicks somewhere. 

Is my arrogance that can't answer your questions. I am not like regular politician type of material folks that roam this forum and pretend to be nice to you, even give you a like so they can put a seed in your head, next time you will remember they threw you a bone and vote with them.

You get the raw truth here, and one day I hope it will stick with you, then you will understand is ok to not be a sheep to the government BUT at the same while doing that not fall victim to being a sheep for Russian communists and other agitators from any spectrum. 

You still have a lot of work to do for me to answer the questions, but everytime you write stuff like a guru I will be there for you. 

People need to know the source of information when they listen to someone. Is what makes for better filtration in society.

I see. So you only want to "filter" news and information? Well gee...that sounds rather...Zelinsky-like.

Your in a bar. 2 people in the bar start fighting. You want to break it up. Do you stand between them and listen to both of their arguments in order to understand their conflict? Or do you take sides and ignore one side of the argument?

IMO...this is a major reason why the current Liberal consistently is found to be wrong about so much. They "filter" information for their own purposes. Then they make assumptions based on their "filtered" information. 

Remove the "filters" and what you get is an ability to determine the truth of matters. But that would mean exposing one's self to opposing points of view...and we can't have that...

Can we.

[Nationalist]

3 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

1. Don't worry about what I do, this is a free country, we all chose our own paths and our own ideas. Capitalism also allows for new ideas to flourish. 

2. I am not a politician or an activist to break up fights, that's their job. 

3. hahahaha. Hilarious. You go to redacted frequented by Russian trolls, American right-wing populists, and a Trump loyalist, and you lecture Canadian liberals? In some countries, they would call you a traitor, and send you to the border to clean washrooms for the rest of your life. Yet, here, this tolerant society gives you a computer so you can write against your own country because you happen to be upset with 1 politician that is currently driving. 

Also please consider using the Power of Silence when we are heading into the next federal elections. Unless you change your ways, every word you say will make the electorate vote for the Liberals, and for some of us that want a change for various reasons, that is not helping. 

The only way the Liberals will win and get away with their recent scandals if more people like you won't be able to control themselves. As soon as the Canadian average voter gets a view that conservatives here are starting to sound like Breitbart down south, is not good news for mainstream conservatives as a political movement, that is my take. 

Indeed. This is your "filter".

Are you calling me a "traitor" now? Contrarian...I didn't run away from my nation. In fact, I served my nation.

You came here to benefit from our free society. Yet you retain rather authoritarian views. I find that interesting. In Canada, before the current leadership, we were all able to voice our opinions and argue them. Today...not so much. Does this turn towards authoritarian rule feel more comfortable to you?

I will continue to explore both sides of issues without your "filters", thank you very much. This is still Canada. And in Canada, we value free thought and expression. If that makes you uncomfortable...tough.

Welcome to Canada.