eyeball Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 9 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Mass murderers? That's right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted February 16 Author Report Share Posted February 16 3 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said: Only in your tiny mind. I was talking about incriminating evidence against the president on hunters laptop. Damn your f__kung stupid. Stay on topic halfwit. Again with your st_pid ass speculation. Where is your proof that hunters laptop has evidence that incriminates the president? Where's the proof? So you didn't read the links...OK. Yes well, if we're gonna believe either Bobuliski or Biden...I'm sort o' leaning towards Bobulinski's story. Barb...you really should try not being so blind. You've read...supposedly...the links provided and still you rail on about proof. Which brings us to another interesting difference between liberal and conservative. I need to ask, how do liberals manage to completely disregard their own senses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted February 16 Author Report Share Posted February 16 1 minute ago, eyeball said: That's right. Care to elaborate? Who might you be talkin' about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 1 minute ago, Nationalist said: Care to elaborate? Who might you be talkin' about? Okay be stupid if you must...Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot et al - but what really pisses me off is when you people compare me to Trudeau. Like I said there's really only one response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted February 16 Author Report Share Posted February 16 6 minutes ago, eyeball said: Okay be stupid if you must...Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot et al - but what really pisses me off is when you people compare me to Trudeau. Like I said there's really only one response. OK so...Stalin was a monster. Hitler was too. Pol pot apparently too but admittedly I don't know much about him. Who compared you to Trudeau? Did I? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrakHoBarbie Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 3 minutes ago, Nationalist said: So you didn't read the links...OK. I read your links. If Congress has evidence of wrongdoing by the president, they can submit it to the DOJ. The pdf you cited only states they found illegal activity. But, just like the jan6th commission found Donald responsible for inciting an insurrection, we'd still need to see the evidence once the DOJ moves to indict . 10 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Which brings us to another interesting difference between liberal and conservative. I need to ask, how do liberals manage to completely disregard their own senses? My senses tell me that I haven't seen all the evidence, so unlike you and your "hang em first, make sure they were guilty later" mob mentality, I don't jump to conclusions. It's called having matured emotionally enough to be able to discern fabrications from facts. You, having both a gullible and obstinate personality, you lack that quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 6 minutes ago, Nationalist said: OK so...Stalin was a monster. Hitler was too. Pol pot apparently too but admittedly I don't know much about him. Who compared you to Trudeau? Did I? If you associated Trudeau with Hitler or Stalin you may as well have associated me along with them - I suspect they'd be rightly pissed off too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted February 16 Author Report Share Posted February 16 14 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said: I read your links. If Congress has evidence of wrongdoing by the president, they can submit it to the DOJ. The pdf you cited only states they found illegal activity. But, just like the jan6th commission found Donald responsible for inciting an insurrection, we'd still need to see the evidence once the DOJ moves to indict . My senses tell me that I haven't seen all the evidence, so unlike you and your "hang em first, make sure they were guilty later" mob mentality, I don't jump to conclusions. It's called having matured emotionally enough to be able to discern fabrications from facts. You, having both a gullible and obstinate personality, you lack that quality. Question: Do you still think Trump colluded with Russia in 2016? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted February 16 Author Report Share Posted February 16 10 minutes ago, eyeball said: If you associated Trudeau with Hitler or Stalin you may as well have associated me along with them - I suspect they'd be rightly pissed off too. That's got you upset? And how is it calling you either one of them? Dude...this is a bit silly...don't you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrakHoBarbie Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 7 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Question: Do you still think Trump colluded with Russia in 2016? I know that Donald had business dealings in Russia for decades. I've also read that his campaign colluded with Russia, but not Donald personally? So, logically, since he's been doing business in Russia one could assume. But I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: That's got you upset? And how is it calling you either one of them? Dude...this is a bit silly...don't you think? It got silly decades ago - where have you been? Anyway it's definitely the silliness. And it's not like you don't know. That gets a little nauseating too, the disingenuity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted February 16 Author Report Share Posted February 16 4 hours ago, Hodad said: Well, there are the conservatives that existed before Trump, and then there's the MAGA movement which Trump didn't necessarily invent, but certainly took advantage of. Trump's campaign was willing to abandon a huge chunk of traditional conservatives in exchange for stitching together some of the ugliest constituencies in America. He said ugly things. He did ugly things. And the uglier it got the more his new base loved it. It became professional wrestling. From an electoral perspective, it seems to have been successful. But the consequence of embracing those diverse flavors of far-right radicalism is that the conversation focuses a lot more on hate and spite than on actual values. Suddenly the most Republican Republicans are being called RINOs and Obama and Clinton should be executed for treason and PWN the LIBS! It's why the Republican party hasn't formalized a platform in ages. The party doesn't collectively stand for anything anymore except beating the Democrats. This is interesting. Its quite true that the Republican party has changed. Its also true that the Democrat party has changed. I noted that in my first post. But which caused which? Its also true that Trump said some rather off-colour stuff. Its also true though that Biden has said some rather off-colour stuff. So what are we left with? Two factions moving further and further away from each other. That makes bi-partisanism a bit difficult. There's very little cooperation between the two sides anymore. Making concessions seems out the door. BTW...Obama and Clinton are not the only ones people have called for treason or execution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted February 16 Author Report Share Posted February 16 21 minutes ago, eyeball said: It got silly decades ago - where have you been? Anyway it's definitely the silliness. And it's not like you don't know. That gets a little nauseating too, the disingenuity. What I know is you can't possibly be like Stalin or Hitler. I also know Justin is certainly not like either. I don't know if its because he can't...or he won't go that far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodad Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 4 minutes ago, Nationalist said: This is interesting. Its quite true that the Republican party has changed. Its also true that the Democrat party has changed. I noted that in my first post. But which caused which? Its also true that Trump said some rather off-colour stuff. Its also true though that Biden has said some rather off-colour stuff. So what are we left with? Two factions moving further and further away from each other. That makes bi-partisanism a bit difficult. There's very little cooperation between the two sides anymore. Making concessions seems out the door. BTW...Obama and Clinton are not the only ones people have called for treason or execution. Well, the Democrats ran the exact same people who have been in public service for 40 years in the last two election cycles. The Republicans ran a reality TV star and WWE heel turned political heel. I don't think there's much question about which party is radically moving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted February 16 Author Report Share Posted February 16 1 hour ago, CrakHoBarbie said: I know that Donald had business dealings in Russia for decades. I've also read that his campaign colluded with Russia, but not Donald personally? So, logically, since he's been doing business in Russia one could assume. But I don't know. His campaign? Are you referring to that poll thing? But ok so you don't know. But can't rule it out. Adversely...you should not be able to rule out the possibility that all this fuss over that laptop, could quite well be true and Joe Biden has made some very shady deals. Right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted February 16 Author Report Share Posted February 16 1 minute ago, Hodad said: Well, the Democrats ran the exact same people who have been in public service for 40 years in the last two election cycles. The Republicans ran a reality TV star and WWE heel turned political heel. I don't think there's much question about which party is radically moving. Have you listened to AOC or her squad lately? How about Bernie Sanders, who's all of the sudden a big Democrat star? They've both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodad Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 24 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Have you listened to AOC or her squad lately? How about Bernie Sanders, who's all of the sudden a big Democrat star? They've both Great. Let me know when she's a presidential candidate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted February 16 Author Report Share Posted February 16 20 minutes ago, Hodad said: Great. Let me know when she's a presidential candidate. So its important to you that a POTUS has years and years of political experience, working within the existing system? Isn't that sort of redundant? Take Old Joe for instance. This is a person who's well versed in "The Swamp". Are you saying you want more of that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted February 16 Author Report Share Posted February 16 (edited) So far we've learned that its generally the Liberal contingent who begin the "mud slinging" in discussions, that apparently some Liberals find it important for a POTUS to be a seasoned Washington politician while most Conservatives today want nothing to do with these seasoned veterans, and that when reasoned with, Liberals can admit that there may be something to the idea that the Biden family has abused Joe's power for monetary gain. But there's a lot of residual hatred and focus on Trump still within the Liberal camp. One thing I don't think we've explored is the notion of MAGA. Of Nationalist ideals. Is it wrong for a POTUS to act solely in the interest of the nation he or she leads? Edited February 16 by Nationalist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodad Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Nationalist said: So its important to you that a POTUS has years and years of political experience, working within the existing system? Isn't that sort of redundant? Take Old Joe for instance. This is a person who's well versed in "The Swamp". Are you saying you want more of that? Well, yes a president should be knowledgeable, experienced and qualified. But that wasn't the point. A party's presidential nominee is the survivor of the primary and ostensible leader and representative center of the party. So it's pretty easy to look at the last two election cycles and see which party has radically shifted. There's no mystery to unpack. Edited February 16 by Hodad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted February 16 Author Report Share Posted February 16 1 minute ago, Hodad said: Well, yes a president should be knowledgeable, experienced and qualified. But that wasn't the point. A party's presidential nominee is the survivor of the primary and ostensible leader and representative center of the party. So it's pretty to look at the last two election cycles and it's not really a mystery which party has radically shifted. I think that's a rather narrow viewpoint. Exhibit A, https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/01/19/rachel-levine-transgender-biden-hhs-pick/ Rather...radical...no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: What I know is you can't possibly be like Stalin or Hitler. Sure, that'll cut it. And of course you're speaking for the entire right wing? **** it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodad Posted February 16 Report Share Posted February 16 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: I think that's a rather narrow viewpoint. Exhibit A, https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/20 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: I think that's a rather narrow viewpoint. Exhibit A, https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/01/19/rachel-levine-transgender-biden-hhs-pick/ Rather...radical...no? 21/01/19/rachel-levine-transgender-biden-hhs-pick/ Rather...radical...no? How so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted February 16 Author Report Share Posted February 16 6 hours ago, eyeball said: Sure, that'll cut it. And of course you're speaking for the entire right wing? **** it too. Everyone has been called names eyeball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted February 16 Author Report Share Posted February 16 (edited) 5 hours ago, Hodad said: How so? So a male administration appointee who dresses like a woman all the time, isn't radical to you? Edited February 16 by Nationalist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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