West Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 45 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said: The hospitalization rate is 5 times higher in the unvaccinated population. Which part confuses you? Nothing about your ridiculous argument confuses me.. it's just ridiculous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infidel Dog Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 Something going unnoticed is almost all of the unvaccinated that do get sick now come out of it and now they're walking around with natural immunity which is soooo much better than anything the clot shot therapeutic is offering. The vaccinated need to check out the hashtag # Died Suddenly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 46 minutes ago, Rebound said: You are correct. The people in the large vaccinated circle were not at risk of serious illness… because they were vaccinated. Wrong... Age, comorbidities, BMI etc are much more of a factor... A twenty five year old unvaxxed is at less risk than an 80 year old vaxxed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrakHoBarbie Posted February 1 Author Report Share Posted February 1 Just now, West said: Nothing about your ridiculous argument confuses me.. it's just ridiculous It's a simple question. The hospitalization rate is 5 times higher in the unvaccinated population. Which part do you not understand? https://www.google.com/url?q=https://doh.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2022-02/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiaoqemjfX8AhV9m2oFHdWBDPAQFnoECAEQAg&usg=AOvVaw3oBr63edJXxfo4wpvcHcys 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 1 minute ago, CrakHoBarbie said: It's a simple question. The hospitalization rate is 5 times higher in the unvaccinated population. Which part do you not understand? https://www.google.com/url?q=https://doh.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2022-02/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiaoqemjfX8AhV9m2oFHdWBDPAQFnoECAEQAg&usg=AOvVaw3oBr63edJXxfo4wpvcHcys Your mental midget gymnastics don't fool people who know how to read it without a political agenda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrakHoBarbie Posted February 1 Author Report Share Posted February 1 Just now, West said: Your mental midget gymnastics don't fool people who know how to read it without a political agenda It's a simple question. The hospitalization rate is 5 times higher in the unvaccinated population. Which part do you not understand? https://www.google.com/url?q=https://doh.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2022-02/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiaoqemjfX8AhV9m2oFHdWBDPAQFnoECAEQAg&usg=AOvVaw3oBr63edJXxfo4wpvcHcys 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 2 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said: It's a simple question. The hospitalization rate is 5 times higher in the unvaccinated population. Which part do you not understand? https://www.google.com/url?q=https://doh.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2022-02/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiaoqemjfX8AhV9m2oFHdWBDPAQFnoECAEQAg&usg=AOvVaw3oBr63edJXxfo4wpvcHcys It's not a "simple question" at all. We KNOW the vast majority of patients with severe outcomes had at least four comorbidities.. We also know that any virus mutates into something less lethal over time... So we have VARIABLES that lunatics like yourself do not even try to isolate because it's not politically expedient for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrakHoBarbie Posted February 1 Author Report Share Posted February 1 1 minute ago, West said: It's not a "simple question" at all. We KNOW the vast majority of patients with severe outcomes had at least four comorbidities.. We also know that any virus mutates into something less lethal over time... So we have VARIABLES that lunatics like yourself do not even try to isolate because it's not politically expedient for you The hospitalization rate is 5 times higher in the unvaccinated population. Are you saying the USDOH is lying? https://www.google.com/url?q=https://doh.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2022-02/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiaoqemjfX8AhV9m2oFHdWBDPAQFnoECAEQAg&usg=AOvVaw3oBr63edJXxfo4wpvcHcys 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 (edited) 8 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said: The hospitalization rate is 5 times higher in the unvaccinated population. Are you saying the USDOH is lying? https://www.google.com/url?q=https://doh.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2022-02/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiaoqemjfX8AhV9m2oFHdWBDPAQFnoECAEQAg&usg=AOvVaw3oBr63edJXxfo4wpvcHcys Nah... vaccinating people who were not at risk skews and manipulates the data to serve a political purpose... this is a fact Same bs logic you loonies use to suggest that a small handful of black people getting killed by cops is evidence of your made up fantasy land Edited February 1 by West Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrakHoBarbie Posted February 1 Author Report Share Posted February 1 1 minute ago, West said: Nah... vaccinating people who were not at risk skews and manipulates the data to serve a political purpose... this is a fact Ahhh.... So you believe it's a conspiracy and the USDOH is in on it and lying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 14 minutes ago, West said: It's not a "simple question" at all. It is, if you're a simpleton. And we got a whole lot of those. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrakHoBarbie Posted February 1 Author Report Share Posted February 1 14 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: It is, if you're a simpleton. And we got a whole lot of those. It's a simple yes or no. The hospitalization rate is 5 times higher in the unvaccinated population. Are you saying the USDOH is lying? https://www.google.com/url?q=https://doh.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2022-02/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiaoqemjfX8AhV9m2oFHdWBDPAQFnoECAEQAg&usg=AOvVaw3oBr63edJXxfo4wpvcHcys 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 54 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said: Ahhh.... So you believe it's a conspiracy and the USDOH is in on it and lying. Where did I say it's a "conspiracy"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 35 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said: It's a simple yes or no. The hospitalization rate is 5 times higher in the unvaccinated population. Are you saying the USDOH is lying? https://www.google.com/url?q=https://doh.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2022-02/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiaoqemjfX8AhV9m2oFHdWBDPAQFnoECAEQAg&usg=AOvVaw3oBr63edJXxfo4wpvcHcys However many who are vaccinated wouldn't dawn the doors of an emergency room anyway.. There was also dumb things like clinics shutting down because of pandemic restrictions that over inflated "hospitalizations" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dialamah Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 38 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said: Are you saying the USDOH is lying? Yes, that is what they think - a worldwide conspiracy involving virtually all health care workers, gov and media to mislead us about Covid and vaccinations for "reasons". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 2 minutes ago, dialamah said: Yes, that is what they think - a worldwide conspiracy involving virtually all health care workers, gov and media to mislead us about Covid and vaccinations for "reasons". You keep right on telling yourself you know what we think. Your intellect is simply to puny to bother correcting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dialamah Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 5 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: You keep right on telling yourself you know what we think. Your intellect is simply to puny to bother correcting. Didn't know you agreed with the anti-vax fanatics. Thanks for clearing that up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 1 minute ago, West said: Where did I say it's a "conspiracy"? Pretty much where you stated unequivocally that vaccinating people who were not at risk skews and manipulates the data to serve a political purpose... this is a fact This requires data skewers and manipulators as well as their political bosses to plan, coordinate and then execute the said skewing and manipulating. How many dozens upon dozens and hundreds do you think would be needed nationally and thousands internationally to accomplish this? This of course is also on top of the thousands and perhaps millions of other people involved with other tasks having to do with the ummm plan or well, what exactly do you call it anyway? Scamdemic or something cute? Point being, there's so many places and directions from which whistle-blowers bearing troves of evidence should be leaking through that the sheer volume of it would cause Edward Snowden and Julian Assange to blush. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contrarian Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 (edited) 11 minutes ago, dialamah said: Yes, that is what they think - a worldwide conspiracy involving virtually all health care workers, gov and media to mislead us about Covid and vaccinations for "reasons". I think is more complex than that, the theories from the crowd you are referring to also features 2 master puppeteers behind all this worldwide conspiracy. George Soros or Bill Gates? Maybe we should start a poll, "Who is the Anti-Christ?" Bill Gates or George Soros? I wonder what the results would be. 😃 Here they are, this is who some people go bed having nightmares about, 2 old men: Edited February 1 by Contrarian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrakHoBarbie Posted February 1 Author Report Share Posted February 1 6 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: You keep right on telling yourself you know what we think. Your intellect is simply to puny to bother correcting. Fact remains, The hospitalization rate is 5 times higher in the unvaccinated population. And you have no viable data that proves otherwise. So, as usual, all y'all MAGA fools are relying on speculations, gossip, innuendo, and opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrakHoBarbie Posted February 1 Author Report Share Posted February 1 21 minutes ago, West said: However many who are vaccinated wouldn't dawn the doors of an emergency room anyway.. There was also dumb things like clinics shutting down because of pandemic restrictions that over inflated "hospitalizations" The hospitalization rate is 5 times higher in the unvaccinated population. Prove otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrakHoBarbie Posted February 1 Author Report Share Posted February 1 23 minutes ago, West said: Where did I say it's a "conspiracy"? See @eyeballpost above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dialamah Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 6 minutes ago, Contrarian said: I think is more complex than that, the theories from the crowd you are referring to also features 2 master puppeteers behind all this worldwide conspiracy. George Soros or Bill Gates? Maybe we should start a poll, "Who is the Anti-Christ?" Bill Gates or George Soros? I wonder what the results would be. 😃 Here they are, this is who some people go bed having nightmares about, 2 old men: Not to mention WEF. But not to worry: my sister assures me that we'll be saved by star people, led by Donald Trump. She's well beyond the folks here in "understanding" what's really going on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contrarian Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 (edited) 22 minutes ago, dialamah said: Not to mention WEF. But not to worry: my sister assures me that we'll be saved by star people, led by Donald Trump. She's well beyond the folks here in "understanding" what's really going on. Was your sister part of the people that went to wait somewhere in the US for JFK's second coming? https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/11/02/qanon-jfk-jr-dallas/ Edited February 1 by Contrarian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodad Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 5 hours ago, Rebound said: You’re more than welcome to find a better source for this data. That’s fine with me and I would be happy to help you analyze it. However, worldwide, two statistics are very clear: 1) Vaccination rates increase substantially with age; 2) Mortality increases substantially with age. I strongly doubt that Canada is different in this respect but I’m happy to look at other data if you find something better. @Infidel Dog IIRC, Statistia is actually sourcing data from the PHAC site at timed intervals, so you're looking at the same data, though perhaps off by an update cycle from time to time. Here's the chart from PHAC (you just select cases deceased in figure 4. And yes, the groups at highest risk are vaccinating at the highest rates. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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