Anti-vax buffoons blame Presley's death on Covid vaccine

[Deluge]

11 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Saying there's no risks in getting COVID, or no risks getting the vaccine, are both lies, and both easily disproven by mainstream science.

Show where I said that there's no risks in getting COVID, or no risks in getting the vaccine. 

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

I'm not Canadian. I do know that the death count here in America has dropped dramatically since the vaccine. So, the vaccine may not stop infection, but it's keeping the death toll down. The vaccines available in Canada correct?

Really?

https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/death-rate

Seems to have jumped UP since the vaccines.

[CrakHoBarbie]

1 minute ago, Deluge said:

Show where I said that there's no risks in getting COVID, or no risks in getting the vaccine. 

Well, to be fair, you do come off as if you think it's as dangerous as the common cold...... Even though it was the number three cause of death during the height of the pandemic. 

[Deluge]

16 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

I admit it. I point out stupidity and the foolishness of the gullible. 

You're a tool; nothing more. 

[CrakHoBarbie]

1 minute ago, Nationalist said:

Really?

https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/death-rate

Seems to have jumped UP since the vaccines.

Death by covid. 

[CrakHoBarbie]

Just now, Deluge said:

You're a tool; nothing more. 

I guess I'm a wrench.... Because all y'all alt right buffoons look like nuts.

[Nationalist]

1 minute ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

Death by covid. 

Oh please...

You do realize the overall population is aging quickly right?

 

[CrakHoBarbie]

Just now, Nationalist said:

Oh please...

You do realize the overall population is aging quickly right?

 

Gee, how is it that you didn't know I was talking about covid deaths?

[Nationalist]

Just now, CrakHoBarbie said:

Gee, how is it that you didn't know I was talking about covid deaths?

I don't think all that many folks actually died from The Rona. I had it...for 2 days. All of my family had it...for no more than a week. My 80-something parents had it...for a few days. It appears that death by Rona is a misnomer. Most of the deaths appear to be in folks who had pre-existing conditions, or were run over by trucks and happened to have The Rona.

I am tired of this endless fear porn. I am tired of these vaccines and their blood clots killing people. And I am tired of chickenshits who refuse to acknowledge and "follow the science". "Follow the science" was the great Libbie battle-cry for 2 friggin' years. And what did it get us?

Fcking blood clots that look like snakes in our bodies.

Enough!

[Deluge]

2 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

Well, to be fair, you do come off as if you think it's as dangerous as the common cold...... Even though it was the number three cause of death during the height of the pandemic. 

You COVID cultists are a hoot. 

It's funny, in hearing people like you talk about that virus, one would think that you have a special affinity for it. It's like you're disappointed that it's not #3 anymore. lol

Hey, did you know that precious death toll may have been somewhat skewed? How many people died from the virus DIRECTLY? Check out the article below:

https://www.aamc.org/news-insights/how-are-covid-19-deaths-counted-it-s-complicated

We're through the pandemic. Don't you think it's time to get back to something like climate scare? That nonsense has been so much more enduring. 

 

[Deluge]

12 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

I guess I'm a wrench.... Because all y'all alt right buffoons look like nuts.

A wrench is useful; you're more like a can of spray paint during an Antifa riot. 

[WestCanMan]

8 hours ago, robosmith said:

Without a POSITIVE TEST, there is NO EVIDENCE I was "exposed."

In FACT my custom mask means it is VERY UNLIKELY I was exposed because it is far better than any N95 mask.

Living in NA means that you were exposed. 

Did you wear your mask when you had friends over? Did you wear it between bites in the restaurant, etc?

If you never got exposed to covid then I actually feel sorry for you. I got to live my life during covid and I built up my immune system. 

Maybe this explains why you're such a raging leftist.  

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

I'm not Canadian. I do know that the death count here in America has dropped dramatically since the vaccine. So, the vaccine may not stop infection, but it's keeping the death toll down. The vaccines available in Canada correct?

How is it possible that the US is having the exact opposite outcome as Canada? 

Cite....

[CrakHoBarbie]

31 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

How is it possible that the US is having the exact opposite outcome as Canada? 

Cite....

Vaccination rates?

[CrakHoBarbie]

1 hour ago, Deluge said:

A wrench is useful; you're more like a can of spray paint during an Antifa riot. 

And you're a dimwitted extremist.

[CrakHoBarbie]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

I don't think all that many folks actually died from The Rona. I had it...for 2 days. All of my family had it...for no more than a week. My 80-something parents had it...for a few days. It appears that death by Rona is a misnomer. Most of the deaths appear to be in folks who had pre-existing conditions, or were run over by trucks and happened to have The Rona.

I am tired of this endless fear porn. I am tired of these vaccines and their blood clots killing people. And I am tired of chickenshits who refuse to acknowledge and "follow the science". "Follow the science" was the great Libbie battle-cry for 2 friggin' years. And what did it get us?

Fcking blood clots that look like snakes in our bodies.

Enough!

Your anecdotal observations have been duly noted. 

[WestCanMan]

57 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

Vaccination rates?

We're at a bajillion %.

Cite?

[CrakHoBarbie]

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

We're at a bajillion %.

Cite?

I'm asking you.... You are Canadian, right?

[WestCanMan]

39 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

I'm asking you.... You are Canadian, right?

I showed your the graph from our gov't showing death rates from before and after vaxing, you said deaths in the US went down after vaxing. You showed zero proof.

Cite?

[CrakHoBarbie]

8 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I showed your the graph from our gov't showing death rates from before and after vaxing, you said deaths in the US went down after vaxing. You showed zero proof.

Cite?

Not that you believe anything I post. In California deaths are more than 80% lower in communities with high vaccination rates. 

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.statnews.com/2022/12/13/covid-vaccines-prevented-3-million-deaths/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiz-MWIqtT8AhUCBEQIHVWvD6cQFnoECAkQAg&usg=AOvVaw0Nc9OwJeDxHPwHlST_UASH 

 

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/issue-brief/deaths-among-older-adults-due-to-covid-19-jumped-during-the-summer-of-2022-before-falling-somewhat-in-september/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiz-MWIqtT8AhUCBEQIHVWvD6cQFnoECAoQAg&usg=AOvVaw0OY852GNAzDm2stma6uXZV. 

https://covid19.ca.gov/state-dashboard/

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/new-study-shows-fewer-people-die-from-covid-19-in-better-vaccinated-communities/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjXp6K1rdT8AhXXH0QIHXKYDNEQFnoECAkQAg&usg=AOvVaw3WC0p5j9sZZINgww7zOCRc

[WestCanMan]

9 minutes ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

Not that you believe anything I post. In California deaths are more than 80% lower in communities with high vaccination rates. 

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.statnews.com/2022/12/13/covid-vaccines-prevented-3-million-deaths/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiz-MWIqtT8AhUCBEQIHVWvD6cQFnoECAkQAg&usg=AOvVaw0Nc9OwJeDxHPwHlST_UASH 

I believe that you believe that site and its conclusions are legit, but it says this:

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Rather than modeling population-level effects, the team of researchers from the University of Maryland, York University, and the Yale School of Public Health used a computational model

So, no stats at all, they just pumped their confirmation bias into a computer and let it spew out results based on that bias.

It continues thusly:

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that allowed them to incorporate factors like waning immunity or different age groups’ eligibility for vaccines and boosters into their calculations.

Nothing to see there, just a description of their conf bias BS, and then they say this:

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Fung noted that adding all of these parameters together creates more statistical uncertainty in the data, meaning that there’s a larger margin for error in the study’s final results. 

IE, he doesn't even believe his own BS.

And here was me thinking that all leftists liked the smell of their own farts. 

 

In a nutshell, your first cite was BS.

Instead of throwing crap against a wall, maybe check out your links before you post them. 

 

Care to take another stab at it? 

 

[Deluge]

3 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

And you're a dimwitted extremist.

Nice comeback. 

We'll see you on the news during the next BLM destruction tour.

[CrakHoBarbie]

3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I believe that you believe that site and its conclusions are legit, but it says this:

So, no stats at all, they just pumped their confirmation bias into a computer and let it spew out results based on that bias.

It continues thusly:

Nothing to see there, just a description of their conf bias BS, and then they say this:

IE, he doesn't even believe his own BS.

And here was me thinking that all leftists liked the smell of their own farts. 

 

In a nutshell, your first cite was BS.

Instead of throwing crap against a wall, maybe check out your links before you post them. 

 

Care to take another stab at it? 

 

In California covid related deaths are more than 80% lower in communities with high vaccination rates. 

https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/new-study-shows-fewer-people-die-from-covid-19-in-better-vaccinated-communities/

Edited January 19, 2023 by CrakHoBarbie

[WestCanMan]

3 hours ago, CrakHoBarbie said:

In California covid related deaths are more than 80% lower in communities with high vaccination rates. 

https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/new-study-shows-fewer-people-die-from-covid-19-in-better-vaccinated-communities/

Right at the bottom of your page: 

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Evidence type: Observational; Opinion

Do you know why we started vaccinating people in the first place? (Hint: rhymes with "do deduce meths")

Do you know what was supposed to happen once we vaccinated 70% of the population? (Hint: rhymes with "turd community")

The benefits of a "vaccine" are well-known to people with grade 7 or higher in industrialized countries. 

So where do we get some reliable data from an industrialized nation from before, during and after a massive vax campaign? I dunno, maybe let's look at Canada, because I'm sitting right here inside of it.

I have the data for this entire country to look at. And there's no speculation involved at all: we know exactly how many people were vaccinated, we know when, and we know how many people died each week before, during and after the vax campaign. 

Vax coverage looks like this:

Basically no one was "fully protected" until June of 2021, and by August we were up around 80%, but a higher percentage of fogies was vaccinated. 

So, if a population was suddenly vaccinated against a pathogen which already had a low death rate, deaths should have plummeted, right? 

Let's look for evidence of a plunge in death rates in Sept of 2021 on the chart below"

The plunge here looks more like a graph of "How wet do you get when you jump in water", not: "What happens to death rates in a country after a massive, successful vaccination campaign.

If that graph corresponded with some stats that sid "Only unvaxed people were dying" I'd say "Holy crap, the vaxed people dodged a bullet!" but 86% of covid deaths here in Canada are among the multi-vaxed, and I've posted the stats (for our entire country) here showing that upwards of a dozen times. 

If you look at those spots on the above graph where deaths were almost zero, that's from the summer of 2020 and 2021. We were completely unvaxed in 2020 and roughly 50% vaxed in '21. In 2022, with 85% of our adults vaxed, we had several times as many deaths as the previous summers, and in the last reporting period of that summer exactly 85.7% of the covid deaths were among the vaxed.

In short, deaths were not down here at all after jabbination.

Our gov't used fascist tactics that Hitler would proud of to force Canadians to vax and it didn't do Jack spit. 

 

Key points to remember: covid deaths went up after our vax campaign and 86% of covid deaths are among the multi-vaxed. 

Make of that what ye will. 

Edited January 20, 2023 by WestCanMan

[CrakHoBarbie]

33 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Right at the bottom of your page: 

Do you know why we started vaccinating people in the first place? (Hint: rhymes with "do deduce meths")

Do you know what was supposed to happen once we vaccinated 70% of the population? (Hint: rhymes with "turd community")

The benefits of a "vaccine" are well-known to people with grade 7 or higher in industrialized countries. 

So where do we get some reliable data from an industrialized nation from before, during and after a massive vax campaign? I dunno, maybe let's look at Canada, because I'm sitting right here inside of it.

I have the data for this entire country to look at. And there's no speculation involved at all: we know exactly how many people were vaccinated, we know when, and we know how many people died each week before, during and after the vax campaign. 

Vax coverage looks like this:

Basically no one was "fully protected" until June of 2021, and by August we were up around 80%, but a higher percentage of fogies was vaccinated. 

So, if a population was suddenly vaccinated against a pathogen which already had a low death rate, deaths should have plummeted, right? 

Let's look for evidence of a plunge in death rates in Sept of 2021 on the chart below"

The plunge here looks more like a graph of "How wet do you get when you jump in water", not: "What happens to death rates in a country after a massive, successful vaccination campaign.

If that graph corresponded with some stats that sid "Only unvaxed people were dying" I'd say "Holy crap, the vaxed people dodged a bullet!" but 86% of covid deaths here in Canada are among the multi-vaxed, and I've posted the stats (for our entire country) here showing that upwards of a dozen times. 

If you look at those spots on the above graph where deaths were almost zero, that's from the summer of 2020 and 2021. We were completely unvaxed in 2020 and roughly 50% vaxed in '21. In 2022, with 85% of our adults vaxed, we had several times as many deaths as the previous summers, and in the last reporting period of that summer exactly 85.7% of the covid deaths were among the vaxed.

 deaths went up after our vax campaign and 86% of covid deaths are among the multi-vaxed. 

 

And yet, here, in America, the vaccine has saved 3million lives.  And btw, if 100% of Americans had been vaccinated, that would mean 100% of those who died from covid were vaxed. 

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/report-covid-19-vaccines-saved-us-115-trillion-3-million-lives

Edited January 20, 2023 by CrakHoBarbie