WestCanMan Posted October 21, 2022 Report Share Posted October 21, 2022 23 minutes ago, robosmith said: Again, let us know when you have FACTS rather than just questions and suspicion mongering. There are lots of facts there. Get your head out of your ass and look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted October 21, 2022 Report Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: DAMMIT! That's CNN's job! The FBI was there, but only the Arlington County police vehicles were marked. Whatever other agencies were involved in the raid chose to remain unidentified. That's pretty legit, right? It's pretty standard now that anyone in North America who does anything that meets the disapproval of our fascist governments they're banned from social gatherings, they get their bank accounts seized, and/or they get their computers and related equipment seized, a ridiculous number of heavily-armed officers swarm their home (and if it has any political value the police will even bring reporters with them), they get jailed for months without a trial, they lose their jobs, they're banned from social media, they're banned from communicating/associating with other non-criminals, etc. This isn't happening to people who make things up about Trump, but if you tell the truth about covid, the Bidens, mandates, Ukraine, Afghanistan, etc you're a target for federal cops or even black flag police forces. People smashed into stores, looted them, burned them down, and assaulted civilians and cops with impunity for months in support of M Brown, a violent thug who was portrayed as a gentle giant by the MSM, and there were very few arrests. Entire communities were destroyed, still nothing happened to the criminals who did all that. But god forbid someone gives you the diary that Biden's daughter lost, or you donate $50 to some truckers who are going to Ottawa to protest against fascism, or you push someone away when they're verbally harassing your child, or you yell at a PTA meeting after the school board puts a rapist in the bathroom with your daughter and she gets beaten up and sodomized. You're suddenly a terrorist. Just because he's not charged with anything yet doesn't mean that he's not inside of a cell. You talk about fantasyland and then you go making a random, scurrilous comment like "maybe he had child pornography"? I've seen some pretty disgusting Biden/Trudeau apologists here, but it's some next-level shiznit to throw baseless accusations on top of one's bullshit excuses. "Fascist governments" Trump is no longer in power cause his insurrection FAILED. LMAO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted October 21, 2022 Report Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: There are lots of facts there. Get your head out of your ass and look. I ONLY see your SPECULATION and LIES about "fascist government." No FACTS about government abductions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted October 21, 2022 Report Share Posted October 21, 2022 39 minutes ago, robosmith said: "Fascist governments" Yes, quite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted October 21, 2022 Report Share Posted October 21, 2022 38 minutes ago, robosmith said: I ONLY see your SPECULATION and LIES about "fascist government." No FACTS about government abductions. It's definitely not a certainty that he's in prison, but it's a distinct possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted October 21, 2022 Report Share Posted October 21, 2022 22 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Yes, quite. Republicans have not eliminated democracy yet, despite their best efforts to overrule the voters by state legislatures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodad Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 5 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Just because he's not charged with anything yet doesn't mean that he's not inside of a cell. You talk about fantasyland and then you go making a random, scurrilous comment like "maybe he had child pornography"? I've seen some pretty disgusting Biden/Trudeau apologists here, but it's some next-level shiznit to throw baseless accusations on top of one's bullshit excuses. Buy a damn mirror. This thread is literally just clowns like you throwing baseless shit at the FBI. Did the FBI (who is now like the KGB?) spirit Meek away to a secret black site prison? Inquiring minds want to know. But but but there were unmarked cars!! (Which is what FBI agents drive.) Oh, and the FBI super secretly confirmed that they were there when asked. Such an amazing secret abduction. Jeebus. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Norris Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 On 10/21/2022 at 1:24 AM, DONKIROCK said: There is no avoiding the conclusion that the Right is being persecuted and, when possible, prosecuted by the Left. This is fascism or authoritarianism happening right before our eyes. Are we demonstrating the boiled frog syndrome? What is fascism is the objections to democracy which bought Trump undone. It was him and his redneck nuts cases who orchestrated the j6 riots attempting to I stall a fascist regime with him at the head. You can't deny that. The democrats have stayed at arm's length from enquiries and Biden has not been consulted by the DOJ since it happened. It is their job to hold enquiries and subpoena people etc. Why shouldn't the first attempt of a coup in America history not be investigated? Where are these so-called patriots who busily hold their flags with their hands on the chests whilst belated about democracy. But Lord Trump gets upset about just that and the disease spreads like a virus amongst the blockheads and they don't like it. The investigation should continue until the bitter end and those responsible for any of it should be jailed, including democrats. It must never happen again under any circumstance regardless of who it is. If anyone reading this disagrees, you can move to North Korea if you like. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 16 hours ago, robosmith said: You know a couple of years ago, I knew a bunch of posters who were sure there was going to be a Kraken and had a meltdown when they found out Trump lied to them. LMAO Good argument... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 16 hours ago, Rebound said: Who is going to prosecute Hunter Biden? I figure while the current charges are being slow-walked...the new congress will begin investigations and proceed to drag the POS through the mud. Once all of America sees the corruption unveiled...Hunter will go down and drag a lot of people with him... Including "The Big Guy". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Nationalist said: I figure while the current charges are being slow-walked...the new congress will begin investigations and proceed to drag the POS through the mud. Once all of America sees the corruption unveiled...Hunter will go down and drag a lot of people with him... Including "The Big Guy". Keep on fantasizing; it's what you do. HB MIGHT be convicted of tax evasion and lying on a gun permit. Edited October 22, 2022 by robosmith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 16 hours ago, Hodad said: Buy a damn mirror. This thread is literally just clowns like you throwing baseless shit at the FBI. Did the FBI (who is now like the KGB?) spirit Meek away to a secret black site prison? Inquiring minds want to know. But but but there were unmarked cars!! (Which is what FBI agents drive.) Oh, and the FBI super secretly confirmed that they were there when asked. Such an amazing secret abduction. Jeebus. The FBI commits crimes and persecutes people based on their political affiliation. It's KGB 101. Meek is just another well-respected guy who said something that embarrassed the Dems in an election year. He's been silenced. 'Nuff said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 19 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: The FBI commits crimes and persecutes people based on their political affiliation. It's KGB 101. The FBI is KNOWN to be strongly conservative on average. Trump Is Going After One of the Most Conservative Institutions 19 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Meek is just another well-respected guy who said something that embarrassed the Dems in an election year. He's been silenced. 'Nuff said. STILL no evidence of ^this but foolishly drawing premature conclusions AS USUAL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Nationalist said: I figure while the current charges are being slow-walked...the new congress will begin investigations and proceed to drag the POS through the mud. Once all of America sees the corruption unveiled...Hunter will go down and drag a lot of people with him... Including "The Big Guy". Tell me: Why didn't the FBI, under Trump, prosecute Hunter Biden? Edited October 22, 2022 by Rebound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodad Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, WestCanMan said: The FBI commits crimes and persecutes people based on their political affiliation. It's KGB 101. Meek is just another well-respected guy who said something that embarrassed the Dems in an election year. He's been silenced. 'Nuff said. If you mean to say that the organization is staffed by humans and humans are inherently political, it that any organization led by political appointees is inherently political, that's reasonable. https://www.npr.org/2018/01/26/580677742/the-massive-case-of-collective-amnesia-the-fbi-has-been-political-from-the-start Things happen that are sometimes inconvenient to one political party or the other. Comey spiked the Clinton campaign with nonsense right at the finish line, but he also didn't try to put her in jail over the silly email stuff. It's political, but it's not the damn KGB. That's Republican victim complex, "deep state" Q conspiracy nonsense. Edited October 22, 2022 by Hodad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted October 22, 2022 Report Share Posted October 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Rebound said: Tell me: Why didn't the FBI, under Trump, prosecute Hunter Biden? They were investigating. FBI doesn't prosecute, that's the DoJ. Latest is that FBI AGENTS believe they have enough evidence to prosecute, but it's not clear the DoJ is on board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 4 hours ago, Contrarian said: ? You have no shame really comparing an institution like the FBI to the KGB. By "An institution like the FBI" do you mean one that commits crimes to persecute politicians to suit their political bias? Do you mean an institution that ran a show trial against a duly elected president? Do you mean an institution that conducted a pre-dawn raid on the home of a septuagenarian using 17 assault weapons, "because he was perceived to be so dangerous", but who also allowed CNN to cover that raid live - because the old man that they frog-marched past the cameras in shackles (for a little bit of political theatre) wasn't actually all that dangerous? Do you mean an institution that arrested people for crimes that were completely unrelated to Russian collusion, and offered reduced sentencing to those people for false testimony regarding Russian collusion, after they already knew there was no collusion? Do you mean the institution that got busted for entrapment after getting guys high and then giving them money to buy guns to commit crimes of the FBI's own planning? Do you mean an institution that used dozens of officers with guns drawn to arrest a man for merely pushing someone away after they verbally harassed his child? They frog-marched that guy out of his own home, in front of his wife and children, for something that local police and DAs considered a non-crime... Do you mean an institution that can't find anyone to arrest from the hundreds of BLM riots which destroyed entire neighbourhoods and saw over 2,000 police officers get injured, and did damage in the billions of dollars of damage, but who somehow managed to find nearly 1000 people to charge criminally for a riot that lasted less than 4 hours, where there was less than $10,000 in damages? Did you know that same institution can't find evidence of Ray Epps committing sedition at the capitol, despite all of the videos which clearly show him committing the act of sedition at the capitol? Do you mean an institution that can't even find a single pedophile to arrest from all the people who flew to Epstein's child-prostitute island over the course of several years? Do you mean an institution that put Gen Glynn in jail for not actually lying, yet didn't press charges against Hillary for destroying subpoenaed evidence? Do you mean an institution that just put their executive assistant director of national security, Jill Sandborn, on the stand to tell a constant stream of lies in the Senate? There's no shame at all in pointing out the fact that the FBI isn't as much of a "federal police force" as they are a "political police force" with a massive amount of power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Hodad said: If you mean to say that the organization is staffed by humans and humans are inherently political, it that any organization led by political appointees is inherently political, that's reasonable. https://www.npr.org/2018/01/26/580677742/the-massive-case-of-collective-amnesia-the-fbi-has-been-political-from-the-start Check out this beauty of a comment from your article: ?? Chris Swecker, who finished his 24-year bureau career as an acting assistant director, told NPR's Ryan Lucas this week that "there's been plenty of controversies, but never accusations that the FBI has become a political tool for one party or another, or one set of political beliefs or another." Never? Really? In his defense, Swecker's FBI tenure coincided almost exactly with that of Louis Freeh, Robert Mueller and James Comey, the directors of the agency from 1993 to last May. In these years, under these men, the FBI has been arguably less politicized and less of a political tool than at any time in its 109-year history. ?? There have absolutely been accusations that the FBI was a political tool under Comey and Mueller lol. There's no disputing that at all, because we've seen accusations from a sitting president, as well as sitting congressmen and senators. There just might not be any accusations that the NPR wants to consider, on account of their own massive bias. We both know that members of the FBI actually committed crimes to support their political bias. Edited October 23, 2022 by WestCanMan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodad Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: Check out this beauty of a comment from your article: ?? Chris Swecker, who finished his 24-year bureau career as an acting assistant director, told NPR's Ryan Lucas this week that "there's been plenty of controversies, but never accusations that the FBI has become a political tool for one party or another, or one set of political beliefs or another." Never? Really? In his defense, Swecker's FBI tenure coincided almost exactly with that of Louis Freeh, Robert Mueller and James Comey, the directors of the agency from 1993 to last May. In these years, under these men, the FBI has been arguably less politicized and less of a political tool than at any time in its 109-year history. ?? There have absolutely been accusations that the FBI was a political tool under Comey and Mueller lol. There's no disputing that at all, because we've seen accusations from a sitting president, as well as sitting congressmen and senators. There just might not be any accusations that the NPR wants to consider, on account of their own massive bias. We both know that members of the FBI actually committed crimes to support their political bias. Great. You seen to agree with the article, which is titled, "The Massive Case Of Collective Amnesia: The FBI Has Been Political From The Start" There have always been things that make politicians unhappy. The magic of this moment is that a wildly corrupt megalomaniac has convinced you that anyone who opposes him is out to get him, and that you're being "persecuted" by association. Edited October 23, 2022 by Hodad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 2 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Do you mean an institution that can't find anyone to arrest from the hundreds of BLM riots which destroyed entire neighbourhoods and saw over 2,000 police officers get injured, and did damage in the billions of dollars of damage, but who somehow managed to find nearly 1000 people to charge criminally for a riot that lasted less than 4 hours, where there was less than $10,000 in damages? Did you know that same institution can't find evidence of Ray Epps committing sedition at the capitol, despite all of the videos which clearly show him committing the act of sedition at the capitol? Do you know that those were STATE crimes and there's NO REASON the FBI would be involved, unlike an attack on the Federal Capitol and an OFFICIAL PROCEEDING in DC? The attack on the political process is FAR MORE IMPORTANT than the monetary damages or time it took. If anyone is like the KGB, it's YOU defending an ATTEMPTED insurrection. Did you WANT Pence killed for doing HIS JOB or prevent him from doing HIS JOB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted October 23, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 And yet another case of the FBI going rogue, this time seizing safety deposit boxes at random. Except the warrant specified not touching such boxes. https://reason.com/2022/07/26/what-is-the-fbi-hiding-about-its-raid-on-innocent-americans-safe-deposit-boxes/ “There are substantial constitutional issues raised by the FBI's raid of U.S. Private Vaults that ought to worry any American concerned about privacy. Before raiding the business, the FBI built a lengthy case against U.S. Private Vaults' owners, who have been charged with several crimes. But the businesses' hundreds of customers were viewed as guilty by association, and the FBI's affidavit seeking permission to seize the safe deposit boxes stored at U.S. Private Vaults relied on sweeping generalizations rather than specific allegations of wrongdoing. “ … ”Four depositions that could be crucial to understanding the motivations and intentions behind the FBI's March 2021 raid of U.S. Private Vaults, a Beverly Hills–based safe deposit box storage business, are being kept confidential at the request of federal prosecutors. Attorneys representing some victims of the raid say the depositions could contain important information about how and why the FBI decided to seize and catalog the private belongings of U.S. Private Vault's customers.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 14 hours ago, robosmith said: Keep on fantasizing; it's what you do. HB MIGHT be convicted of tax evasion and lying on a gun permit. We will see...won't we Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 13 hours ago, Rebound said: Tell me: Why didn't the FBI, under Trump, prosecute Hunter Biden? Because instead they buried it and lied about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 4 hours ago, Nationalist said: Because instead they buried it and lied about it. Why did Trump appoint an FBI Director who buried and lied about the political rival? I thought Trump only appointed the Best Criminals… er, people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironstone Posted October 23, 2022 Report Share Posted October 23, 2022 On 10/21/2022 at 12:59 AM, Rebound said: Congress does not control the FBI. REPEATING: FBI DIRECTOR WAS APPOINTED BY TRUMP. Not that facts can enter your thick skull. You never respond to that simple fact. But you’re so dumb that you think Congress can tell the FBI what to do. Are you and robosmith one and the same? I mean, with the use of CAPS and all? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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