Nationalist Posted October 31, 2022 Report Posted October 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: “Biolabs!” ”Zelensky is a Nazi!” ”Zelenskywas planning to attack Russia first!” ”The occupied Ukrainians WANT to join Russia!” So... Biolabs: already shown to be true by the Pentagon. Zelinsky: I never said he's a Nazi. I said he sent Nazis to fight for him. I also didn't say he was planning to attack Russia first. Occupied Ukrainians in eastern Ukraine held 2 referendums in which the voted for independence. Are you through being silly? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Boges Posted October 31, 2022 Report Posted October 31, 2022 4 hours ago, Nationalist said: Occupied Ukrainians in eastern Ukraine held 2 referendums in which the voted for independence. Are you through being silly? Stop being silly first. As has been pointed out to you several times. No reputable nation thinks those referendums are an accurate representation of the will of the people that live there. Especially considering Russia doesn't even hold 100% of any of these regions. So how could they have obtained a truly representative sample size? Quote
WestCanMan Posted October 31, 2022 Report Posted October 31, 2022 15 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Hilarious ! The guy who just recently posted that he doesn’t know or care what happened in Ukraine previously and didn’t even know about Yuschenko or Yanukovich now says that I don’t know how w got here? Youve changed your story 180 degrees buddy. And you SFA except what you copy paste from Putin’s apologists and Russian fake news sites. If you really believe you’re facing such an existential threat you’ll be visiting some liberals house with a hammer soon I expect. I never changed my story at all. My prediction that Putin would attack was correct, there were just better reasons for it. Did you know about all the biolabs in Ukraine 3 years ago? Were you aware of how serious the Dems were of getting Ukraine into NATO? Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
Moonbox Posted October 31, 2022 Author Report Posted October 31, 2022 5 hours ago, Nationalist said: So... Biolabs: already shown to be true by the Pentagon. Where? There was joint research being done on bovine diseases or something from what I recall. 5 hours ago, Nationalist said: Occupied Ukrainians in eastern Ukraine held 2 referendums in which the voted for independence. Come on. In what world are we to expect a referendum held under armed occupation without outside observers where none of the options were "remain as part of Ukraine" was even remotely legitimate? I sincerely believe even you know these were a farce. I refuse to believe you're that silly. 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
DogOnPorch Posted October 31, 2022 Report Posted October 31, 2022 So this bat here had sex with this pangolin, see? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Nationalist Posted October 31, 2022 Report Posted October 31, 2022 2 hours ago, Boges said: Stop being silly first. As has been pointed out to you several times. No reputable nation thinks those referendums are an accurate representation of the will of the people that live there. Especially considering Russia doesn't even hold 100% of any of these regions. So how could they have obtained a truly representative sample size? "I don't like the outcome, so I'll just call it BS. So there!" did y'all stick ur tongue out at the screen while you typed up this drivel as well? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Boges Posted October 31, 2022 Report Posted October 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, Nationalist said: "I don't like the outcome, so I'll just call it BS. So there!" did y'all stick ur tongue out at the screen while you typed up this drivel as well? Do you honestly think that if the public voted to stay part of Ukraine, Russia would withdraw? You really believe that? Quote
Nationalist Posted October 31, 2022 Report Posted October 31, 2022 57 minutes ago, Moonbox said: Where? There was joint research being done on bovine diseases or something from what I recall. Come on. In what world are we to expect a referendum held under armed occupation without outside observers where none of the options were "remain as part of Ukraine" was even remotely legitimate? I sincerely believe even you know these were a farce. I refuse to believe you're that silly. Well you're wrong. As I have pointed out, I have a tenant in Prague who's from Ukraine. You know...a REAL Ukrainian. According to her that part of Ukraine was always Russian. She tells me she's not at all surprised they voted to separate from Ukraine. Nor does she care. Probably the most level headed thing I've heard about Ukraine since this whole charade started. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted October 31, 2022 Report Posted October 31, 2022 Just now, Boges said: Do you honestly think that if the public voted to stay part of Ukraine, Russia would withdraw? You really believe that? Yes. But they didn't...did they. And apparently...this isn't a huge surprise to real Ukrainians. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Boges Posted October 31, 2022 Report Posted October 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Well you're wrong. As I have pointed out, I have a tenant in Prague who's from Ukraine. You know...a REAL Ukrainian. According to her that part of Ukraine was always Russian. She tells me she's not at all surprised they voted to separate from Ukraine. Nor does she care. Probably the most level headed thing I've heard about Ukraine since this whole charade started. I don't support Putin. . . I just gobble up all his propaganda like it came from Jesus himself. ? Quote
Boges Posted October 31, 2022 Report Posted October 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Nationalist said: Yes. But they didn't...did they. And apparently...this isn't a huge surprise to real Ukrainians. Yeah because they've militarily occupied this territory. And are losing the territory they falsely claimed very quickly. Because Ukrainians don't want them there!!!! Quote
Nationalist Posted October 31, 2022 Report Posted October 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, Boges said: I don't support Putin. . . I just gobble up all his propaganda like it came from Jesus himself. ? Are you always full o' shit? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted October 31, 2022 Report Posted October 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, Boges said: Yeah because they've militarily occupied this territory. And are losing the territory they falsely claimed very quickly. Because Ukrainians don't want them there!!!! You have no idea of the history of that area...do you. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Boges Posted October 31, 2022 Report Posted October 31, 2022 Just now, Nationalist said: Are you always full o' shit? No I don't believe an election staged by an autocrat in a territory he illegally annexed is legit. I'm not a gullible useful idiot like you are. 2 Quote
BeaverFever Posted October 31, 2022 Report Posted October 31, 2022 6 hours ago, Nationalist said: Biolabs: already shown to be true by the Pentagon. Zelinsky: I never said he's a Nazi. I said he sent Nazis to fight for him. I also didn't say he was planning to attack Russia first. Occupied Ukrainians in eastern Ukraine held 2 referendums in which the voted for independence. Are you through being silly? Biolabs is a lie. Referenda conducted at gun point by an invading occupier are by definition illegitimate. And we’re expected to take Russia’s word at face valu regarding the results. It just goes to show har deluded the MAGA have become that they think American elections are rigged but Putin’s elections are above suspicion and not to be questioned. If you never said Ukraine was about to attack then you’re admitting that the invasion is unjustified as preemptive strike is the only legal justification for invasion Quote
Moonbox Posted October 31, 2022 Author Report Posted October 31, 2022 51 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Well you're wrong. As I have pointed out, I have a tenant in Prague who's from Ukraine. You know...a REAL Ukrainian. Cool testimonial. It's utterly useless for this debate, but cool. My biggest client is a Russian expat who fled in the early 2000's because Putin had several of her friends arrested. Want to know what she has to say? Doubt it. 51 minutes ago, Nationalist said: According to her that part of Ukraine was always Russian. She tells me she's not at all surprised they voted to separate from Ukraine. Nor does she care. Probably the most level headed thing I've heard about Ukraine since this whole charade started. The Donbas is heavily Russian. Nobody disputes that. So is Crimea. That's what happens when the Soviet Union deported the natives and/or starved them out under Stalin. This does not, however, have any bearing on the legitimacy of farcical referendums held under armed occupation where there was no option to stay in Ukraine. 1 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Moonbox Posted October 31, 2022 Author Report Posted October 31, 2022 49 minutes ago, Nationalist said: You have no idea of the history of that area...do you. You clearly don't. Any time I've tried to engage you on it, you've just tossed limp insults. Ukraine hasn't been "part of Russia" for 8-900 years and since then has mostly fought them for their independence. ? 1 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Nationalist Posted October 31, 2022 Report Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Boges said: No I don't believe an election staged by an autocrat in a territory he illegally annexed is legit. I'm not a gullible useful idiot like you are. Really? I know several people who would disagree with your self assessment. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted October 31, 2022 Report Posted October 31, 2022 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: Biolabs is a lie. Referenda conducted at gun point by an invading occupier are by definition illegitimate. And we’re expected to take Russia’s word at face valu regarding the results. It just goes to show har deluded the MAGA have become that they think American elections are rigged but Putin’s elections are above suspicion and not to be questioned. If you never said Ukraine was about to attack then you’re admitting that the invasion is unjustified as preemptive strike is the only legal justification for invasion "Thath's a LIE!" lol... Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted October 31, 2022 Report Posted October 31, 2022 35 minutes ago, Moonbox said: You clearly don't. Any time I've tried to engage you on it, you've just tossed limp insults. Ukraine hasn't been "part of Russia" for 8-900 years and since then has mostly fought them for their independence. ? Ukraine had experienced a brief period of independence in 1918–20, but portions of western Ukraine were ruled by Poland, Romania, and Czechoslovakia in the period between the two World Wars, and Ukraine thereafter became part of the Soviet Union as the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
BeaverFever Posted October 31, 2022 Report Posted October 31, 2022 7 minutes ago, Nationalist said: "Thath's a LIE!" lol... It is lie. You’re telling lies, plain and simple. Grow up with your childish comebacks is that really the best you can do? Quote
Moonbox Posted October 31, 2022 Author Report Posted October 31, 2022 8 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Ukraine had experienced a brief period of independence in 1918–20, but portions of western Ukraine were ruled by Poland, Romania, and Czechoslovakia in the period between the two World Wars, and Ukraine thereafter became part of the Soviet Union as the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic. Correction - Ukraine was forced to become part of the Soviet Union and was brutally repressed, subsequently starved in the millions under Stalin, and then immediately chose to break off from Russia when the USSR collapsed. Which part of this signals or suggests Ukraine would want to be part of Russia, especially considering they're fighting tooth and nail to avoid exactly that? 1 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Nationalist Posted October 31, 2022 Report Posted October 31, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Moonbox said: Cool testimonial. It's utterly useless for this debate, but cool. My biggest client is a Russian expat who fled in the early 2000's because Putin had several of her friends arrested. Want to know what she has to say? Doubt it. The Donbas is heavily Russian. Nobody disputes that. So is Crimea. That's what happens when the Soviet Union deported the natives and/or starved them out under Stalin. This does not, however, have any bearing on the legitimacy of farcical referendums held under armed occupation where there was no option to stay in Ukraine. I'd love to hear her story. My wife is a defector. As this BS plan continues, I figure it'll amount to the end of the EU, and a serious black eye for NATO. Freezing and starving has interesting affects on folks. And none of your willingness to sacrifice them, impresses anyone but typical spoiled brats on this side of the pond. For now...we get to eat... As for the 2 referendums... 1. 2 referendums and NATO STILL thinks this is a quagmire they need to butt into. 2. Nobody heald a gun to anyone's head. You're being silly. Edited October 31, 2022 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted October 31, 2022 Report Posted October 31, 2022 45 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: It is lie. You’re telling lies, plain and simple. Grow up with your childish comebacks is that really the best you can do? Well actually it's not a lie as they've admitted the bio-labs exist. And you think I should grow up...ya...thilly... Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted October 31, 2022 Report Posted October 31, 2022 42 minutes ago, Moonbox said: Correction - Ukraine was forced to become part of the Soviet Union and was brutally repressed, subsequently starved in the millions under Stalin, and then immediately chose to break off from Russia when the USSR collapsed. Which part of this signals or suggests Ukraine would want to be part of Russia, especially considering they're fighting tooth and nail to avoid exactly that? We aren't discussing what they may have "wanted" are we. Go home...this is extraordinarily pathetic. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
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