Dougie93 Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 that's the thing to understand about money printing the money is not actually created out of thin air that is money from the future, which you borrow from there, to spend here so the American debt is much larger than the current account that Washington will admit to most of the debt is in the future, future liabilities projected forward at which point you arrive at what is called the fiscal gap America's fiscal gap is something like $160 trillion so America is already insolvent, in the future and we are moving towards that void at the speed of the earth around the sun, 107,000 kph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 Maybe in this new era of politics, the bar has been raised, and he needs to twerk upside-down to appeal to the leftist voters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: 1. You mean when he says "freedom freedom freedom" ? Correct me if I'm wrong but he didn't promise sh*t. A perfect politician. 2. He will spend money to please people until they get sick of his hair. 1. So I went to his web (https://www.pierre4pm.ca/) Quote Today, candidate for Prime Minister and MP Pierre Poilievre announced his plan to cap spending to make government affordable with a Pay-As-You-Go Law requiring that the government find a dollar of savings for every dollar of new spending measures. Good idea. Quote Today, candidate for Prime Minister and MP Pierre Poilievre announced his plan to protect academic freedom and free speech from campus gatekeepers. Hmmm...liking it...liking it... Quote Do you know who should be determining Canadian values? Canadians. Instead, we have a small group of ruling elites who claim to possess moral superiority and the burden of instructing the rest of us how to live our lives. They’re wrong. We need to get back to the basics. It’s time to stand up for fundamental Canadian values and protect Canadians’ freedom of speech and belief. It is Canadians’ who are the moral ballast of society, not the governing few in Ottawa. It’s time to restore dignity and honour back to the Canadian people and let them live their lives according to their values. A real politician...who has a rather nationalistic agenda...and doesn't get banned from Twitter. Interesting eh? Edited July 12, 2022 by Nationalist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 this is how inflation & interest rates work inflation is future money flooding your present economy since you don't have the future productivity to keep with that, prices rise interest rates is taking money out of the system, to put it back into the future the mechanism is that the central bank raises interest rates to pay off its balance sheet from the future the banks then pull the money out of the economy and park it in the future with the central bank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 42 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Do you still pretend to be a conservative or have you finally just come clean MH? Do you still pretend to like politics? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 37 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: I can see why the leftists are triggered. It's impossible to be triggered by a Canadian Tire commercial. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 33 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Maybe in this new era of politics, the bar has been raised, and he needs to twerk upside-down to appeal to the leftist voters. Or talk about actual policy maybe. But then again with voters like you voting, who needs substance? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 (edited) see, Polievre will say things like "inflation was only 3% under the Harpercons" but the BoC was still borrowing from the future to buy Canada's bonds to keep the interest rates at net negative and the Liberals did not change anything, they carried on with the same quantitative easing all that is happening now, is that we are running into the future in the form of higher prices from the future when nobody has gotten their future raises from their employer today's salaries trying to pay tomorrows prices Trudeau did not create this situation, he simply did as the Harpercons had been doing since 2008 Edited July 12, 2022 by Dougie93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack9000 Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 Lol Pierre is just a con artist like Trump he can sound good but in reality will do nothing for the country and leave office as one of the most disliked PM's in history 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 31 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Hmmm...liking it...liking it... A real politician...who has a rather nationalistic agenda...and doesn't get banned from Twitter. Interesting eh? Any real conservative should run screaming from the prospect of a government agent approving university discussion. Would you be OK with the Liberals doing that? I hope so because they will turn that into a whole Ministry when they're re-elected... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 10 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Do you still pretend to like politics? Some times I cheat on politics with other topics. Last month I watched some hockey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 you only have to look at Doug Ford to see where the Conservatives go once elected with the Woke Liberals & NDP leaving most of the left wide open the Conservatives in Ontario have gone way to the left, into all that open territory 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Or talk about actual policy maybe. But then again with voters like you voting, who needs substance? Ooooh, MH is interested in policy now, hey? How is a Trudeau apologist talking to conservatives about a "need for substance"? Remember this: Quote “Trudeau is the Kim Kardashian of political leaders: an all-style, no substance bimbo with all the depth of a puddle.” - Australian columnist Rita Panahi Bang-on. How about "not being a fascist"? Is that a good enough policy for you? How about "not using a charity scam to enrich your family, or selling our gov't out to a criminal entity like SNC"? How about "working for Canadians, not big pharma"? Are those good enough for you? Edited July 12, 2022 by WestCanMan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 in fact, Doug Ford has even gone Woke now it's the Conservatives are who passing these new Woke standards for public schools they are the same as the Liberals they have no ideology other than gaining power & prerogatives for themselves 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 9 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: 1. Ooooh, MH is interested in policy now, hey? 2. How is a Trudeau apologist talking to conservatives about a "need for substance"? 3. Remember this: Bang-on. 4. How about "not being a fascist"? Is that a good enough policy for you? 5. How about "not using a charity scam to enrich your family, or selling our gov't out to a criminal entity like SNC"? 6. Are those good enough for you? 1. Now ? 2. Please provide an example of me "apologizing" for Trudeau 3. Yes, I agree. Electing a male model from a Home Depot ad is no better than a hair model btw 4. Hyperbole. You forgot to add "Marxist". And it's not apologizing when you throw baseless words around... I only ask for some real criticism. 5. Yes, those are good reasons why I did not vote for him. 6. Yes but those are SCANDALS. You didn't discuss policy except for the veiled "pharma" jab... no leader would have avoided vaccines so ... why not try for something else ? You kind of stumbled there. What about "Pierre" (LOL) and his new university thought police. Do you like that idea ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 Hey @WestCanManhow about "Climate Policy" ? If Pierre puts in Carbon Credits will you be angry ? I picked a random emotion there but it seems apt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 (edited) in terms of the Conservatives supposed sympathy for the truckers ? that's only because the truckers were the Liberal's problem we've seen how the Conservatives treat protests from the G7 in Toronto in 2010 so If the truckers went against the Harpercons ? the difference would be that the Harpercons would have nipped it in the bud right away they wouldn't have waited for weeks to send the Mounties in, they would have done that within hours Edited July 12, 2022 by Dougie93 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: 1. The difference would be that the Harpercons would have nipped it in the bud right away 2. they wouldn't have waited for weeks to send the Mounties in, they would have done that within hours 1. This is the corruption of the Liberals. They managed the situation for political benefit. 2. I agree but a lot of people on here will faint on the spot seeing your post... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: 1. This is the corruption of the Liberals. They managed the situation for political benefit. 2. I agree but a lot of people on here will faint on the spot seeing your post... well, in fairness, it was Bill Blair running both operations so they were very similar like at the G7 they let this tiny group of Black Bloc types run amok then they used that as an excuse to crush all protests everywhere in Toronto with overwhelming paramilitary force this is how Bill Blair operates, he's an old school Toronto cop so he does what it takes to maintain order at any cost most of the delay on the trucker protest was the Feds trying to get Ottawa police to end it but when that failed, they went to the Bill Blair option Edited July 12, 2022 by Dougie93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nefarious Banana Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 Oil/gas sector will like the gas fire in the fireplace . . . We loggers like wood fires. Hoping he becomes PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 (edited) Canada has the Dutch disease when the oil & gas market gets hot, that causes the dollar to rise against the USD, killing exports in Ontario so Canada cannot oil & gas its way out of a recession what we are actually facing is stagflation rising oil & gas prices in a recession back to the Seventies, maan that's basically where we are at back to the Seventies, except on steroids same problem, orders of magnitude larger scale and the Seventies caused the worst recession since the Great Depression in 1981 so we are in uncharted territory, the scale is actually larger than what caused the Great Depression Edited July 12, 2022 by Dougie93 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 50 minutes ago, Jack9000 said: Lol Pierre is just a con artist like Trump he can sound good but in reality will do nothing for the country and leave office as one of the most disliked PM's in history That sounds exactly what Justin did... "absolutely nothing" "The worst World leader ever", yes he won the gold medal for being an ass clown while in office...wait he had some help let's not forget the NDP flunkies that made all this happen. and even then accomplished nothing of any real value...And you clowns find that funny. What a colossal waste of time his entire tenure as PM has been...You have blindly followed this jackass, just like trumps voters did for him...And while trying to hide your embarrassment for being a leftist, you start looking for distractions to point fingers at, cause that is how you roll. Canada is done with the left and is ready to move on, and personally, I don't give a rats ass if that's the fat ladies toy poodle from down the street, as long as Justin goes down in flames. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 in terms of a cut off point, as to where this particular crisis was started it was Alan Greenspan who started Quantitative Easing printing money to buy your own bonds to juice the asset prices in the wake of the Dot Com bubble bursting that caused the 2008 bubble then they doubled down on QE, took it next level, into the trillions and that's been going on for fourteen years now so this massive Dot Com bubble now, was a generation in the making Justin Trudeau was not the architect, and Pierre Polievre doesn't have any fixes for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: Any real conservative should run screaming from the prospect of a government agent approving university discussion. Would you be OK with the Liberals doing that? I hope so because they will turn that into a whole Ministry when they're re-elected... I have never heard Pixie-Dust support free speech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: 1. so this massive Dot Com bubble now, was a generation in the making 2. Justin Trudeau was not the architect, and Pierre Polievre doesn't have any fixes for it 1. Very astute. The base model though was RAILROAD speculation in the 19th century. Every wealthy person had major bets on a railroad, including tiny roads with no rails or land.... and the money was good if you were a land surveyor, or otherwise employed on the rich man's gambled money. 2. Indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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