Liberal Party and Online Censorship

[Zeitgeist]

I’m quite sure you know about Bill C-11

[eyeball]

15 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

I’m quite sure you know about Bill C-11

Heard of it. The word censor isn't even in the bill is it?

If I'm wrong, show me where the words censor or censorship, media and government are used together in a sentence or paragraph that makes it unambiguously clear that the government can tell the msm what not to report.

Thanks and good luck.  

Edited April 4, 2022 by eyeball

[Zeitgeist]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

Heard of it. The word censor isn't even in the bill is it?

If I'm wrong, show me where the words censor or censorship, media and government are used together in a sentence or paragraph that makes it unambiguously clear that the government can tell the msm what not to report.

Thanks and good luck.  

The government (CRTC) decides what’s acceptable.  The legislation is pure censorship.  The Indian Act isn’t called The Segregation Act.  A rose by any other name…

[ExFlyer]

18 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

I’m quite sure you know about Bill C-11

The Bill C-11 "An Act to enact the Consumer Privacy Protection Act and the Personal Information and Data Protection Tribunal Act and to make related and consequential amendments to other Acts" that has been kicking around for well more than a year and has not moved??

That Bill?

 

This Bill?

https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/csj-sjc/pl/charter-charte/c11.html

Edited April 4, 2022 by ExFlyer

[Michael Hardner]

There's no mention of censorship, nor does there seem to be any changes in that area.

If you hate Trudeau, though, every bill is a slippery slope towards the internment camps...

[Zeitgeist]

4 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

There's no mention of censorship, nor does there seem to be any changes in that area.

If you hate Trudeau, though, every bill is a slippery slope towards the internment camps...

Too late.  You’re already interned. 

[ironstone]

This bill seems pretty woke according to the Liberal Heritage Minister.

In a somewhat goofy video, Heritage Minister Pablo Rodriguez tells Canadians what Bill C-11 is supposedly intended to do:

Make it easier to find Canadian stories and music.
Support Canadian artists and create jobs.
Support racialized and Indigenous creators.
Make more accessible content.
Make sure streaming services contribute to Canadian culture.

According to the Bill, search engines, like Google, will be required to boost news organizations that promote “racialized communities, cultural and linguistic minorities, LGBTQ2+ communities, and persons with disabilities.” Consequently, non-compliant news publishers not focusing on such progressive topics will be punished by receiving lower rankings in searches.

So politically correct bs will be pushed to the top of the search results. Better comply or else!

[ExFlyer]

So, the Liberals propose Bill C-11 which can be misinterpreted but the Conservatives have an outright ban.

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Conservatives clamp down on governing body’s dealings with reporters, social media posts

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But party president Rob Batherson said the new policy pre-dated former national councilor Bert Chen’s departure from the board, and is not meant as a veto over councilors’ communications with party members or the public.

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New rules published filter all communications about the elected National Council’s business through Batherson or a designated communications director.

The first objective of the new policy, according to the document, is to “ensure councilors understand their obligations on maintaining confidentiality” while discussing council business.

The document emphasizes that the party’s president — currently Batherson, a longtime party activist — is the official spokesperson for the council, not the elected councillors.

“In the event a National Councilor is contacted by a member of the media, (they) shall notify the president … prior to any interview taking place,” the document reads.

That applies to discussing national council business on social media platforms, as well.

“Any social media post by a national councilor related to confidential national council business must be reviewed and approved by the president or (his) designate,” the document reads.

The new policy comes after Bert Chen, a national councilor representing Conservatives in Ontario, was ousted from his position on the governing body for agitating for Erin O’Toole’s ouster.

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After last September’s disappointing election results, and while O’Toole and his inner circle sought to maintain his hold over the party, Chen and Sen. Denise Batters became the two most public faces of the behind-the-scenes movement to force a leadership review.

O’Toole removed Batters from the Conservative national caucus. His successor, interim Conservative Leader Candice Bergen, invited the Saskatchewan senator back into the fold after O’Toole lost 73 of his own MPs in a caucus vote on his leadership.

Chen, however, lost his seat at the National Council table and has no plans to mount a comeback.

In an interview with Global News, Chen agreed that the new policy appears to have been motivated by the saga. But he says that while the policy gives the party’s president a measure of control over national council communications, it also limits the power of that position to act “unilaterally.”

“Any solid organization deserves to have a policy in place, but this is directly in response to (Batherson) unilaterally declaring things of national council without consulting them first,” Chen, who is now working with leadership hopeful Leslyn Lewis’ campaign, said Monday.

But Batherson said work on the new communications protocol dates back to January 2020, and was taken up by newly-elected members again in March 2021. He told Global News in an interview that a “number of councilors” over the years had expressed concern about what is confidential information and what isn’t, and about the lack of guidelines in place around discussing council business.

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Batherson said that requiring councillors to flag media requests or social media posts to him was not a “veto” over their communications, but a “courtesy” to the rest of the board about any planned public comments.

“If you’re going to be out there speaking, (the guidelines ensure) that people know about it in advance and don’t hear about it by reading a media report,” Batherson said.

“It’s hard to sort of envision the kind of situation where you would ask someone not to speak to something. But again, there are confidential issues that come up … So if someone were to speak about something that’s in camera, that certainly would be problematic.”

Batherson confirmed there were no explicit consequences for councilors who violated the protocols, and noted that Chen was suspended from the board prior to having official rules around media interviews and social media posts in place.

 

 

Edited April 5, 2022 by ExFlyer

[West]

15 hours ago, ironstone said:

This bill seems pretty woke according to the Liberal Heritage Minister.

In a somewhat goofy video, Heritage Minister Pablo Rodriguez tells Canadians what Bill C-11 is supposedly intended to do:

Make it easier to find Canadian stories and music.
Support Canadian artists and create jobs.
Support racialized and Indigenous creators.
Make more accessible content.
Make sure streaming services contribute to Canadian culture.

According to the Bill, search engines, like Google, will be required to boost news organizations that promote “racialized communities, cultural and linguistic minorities, LGBTQ2+ communities, and persons with disabilities.” Consequently, non-compliant news publishers not focusing on such progressive topics will be punished by receiving lower rankings in searches.

So politically correct bs will be pushed to the top of the search results. Better comply or else!

So basically social credit scores for content providers. 

Focus on what the LPOC tell you to focus on or else.

[West]

2 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

So, the Liberals propose Bill C-11 which can be misinterpreted but the Conservatives have an outright ban.

 

Bu but Harper.. bu but Harper ?

[Zeitgeist]

It’s about compliance with whatever messaging government wants to inculcate.  No thanks.  

[ExFlyer]

1 hour ago, West said:

Bu but Harper.. bu but Harper ?

Harper?  LOL  Very Old News Dude. This is the New Conservatives LOL

[Michael Hardner]

11 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Harper?  LOL   

Harper and the Liberals teamed up for the surveillance bill.

[West]

Looks like the LPOC/Rolex Socialist henchman are refusing to give Rebel News a license as they say mean things about JT.

[Michael Hardner]

38 minutes ago, West said:

Looks like the LPOC/Rolex Socialist henchman are refusing to give Rebel News a license as they say mean things about JT.

Uh.  Cite ?

[Michael Hardner]

What am I asking for ?? ? 

Apologies I didn't notice who was posting

[West]

48 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Uh.  Cite ?

https://www.rebelnews.com/ezra_levant_show_april_07_2022

[Michael Hardner]

4 hours ago, West said:

https://www.rebelnews.com/ezra_levant_show_april_07_2022

Ahhhh they want a government hand out !  I get it.

Well I disagree that they are 1% news.  Closer to 0%.

[West]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

Ahhhh they want a government hand out !  I get it.

Well I disagree that they are 1% news.  Closer to 0%.

Good one Mike

[Zeitgeist]

On 4/4/2022 at 7:06 PM, ironstone said:

This bill seems pretty woke according to the Liberal Heritage Minister.

In a somewhat goofy video, Heritage Minister Pablo Rodriguez tells Canadians what Bill C-11 is supposedly intended to do:

Make it easier to find Canadian stories and music.
Support Canadian artists and create jobs.
Support racialized and Indigenous creators.
Make more accessible content.
Make sure streaming services contribute to Canadian culture.

According to the Bill, search engines, like Google, will be required to boost news organizations that promote “racialized communities, cultural and linguistic minorities, LGBTQ2+ communities, and persons with disabilities.” Consequently, non-compliant news publishers not focusing on such progressive topics will be punished by receiving lower rankings in searches.

So politically correct bs will be pushed to the top of the search results. Better comply or else!

It’s a social credit score for online content.  “Good” online content will be Liberal-supported online content.   

Edited April 9, 2022 by Zeitgeist

[Dougie93]

24 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

It’s a social credit score for online content.  “Good” online content will be Liberal-supported online content.   

because the Liberal party is imploding, driven by sheer desperation & self deluding hysteria

guaranteed to backfire resulting in the Liberals being wiped out nationally just as they have been in Ontario

[Zeitgeist]

Well maybe Andrew Coyne hasn’t joined the Liberal-NDP dictatorship after all.  Maybe.  He’s got it right on their attempts at online censorship:

https://apple.news/AM87jHa2FQL2Z6ucVrCAOSg

We better hope that the Conservatives make repealing of this evil legislation their first act in government, if they ever form one.  

[suds]

How is it even remotely possible to ascertain the truth when only one side of an argument is heard? We need Democrats to hold Republicans in check, and Republicans to hold Democrats in check. Same for Liberals and Conservatives, and the politically aligned news media.

"When government actors are allowed to decide which opinions can be expressed and which cannot, an open, vibrant and diverse society quickly breaks down. Similarly, when our court system is used to silence those who oppose powerful actors, we all lose the opportunity to hear all sides of an issue and come to our own conclusions. Freedom of expression is the right to speak, BUT ALSO THE RIGHT TO HEAR. It is almost impossible to imagine how a democracy could work without the protection of those most basic rights and freedoms, and yet-in Canada-they continue to be under attack in many ways." .... Canadian Civil Liberties Association.

DISINFORMATION  =  THE NEW CENSORSHIP

 

[Zeitgeist]

27 minutes ago, suds said:

How is it even remotely possible to ascertain the truth when only one side of an argument is heard? We need Democrats to hold Republicans in check, and Republicans to hold Democrats in check. Same for Liberals and Conservatives, and the politically aligned news media.

"When government actors are allowed to decide which opinions can be expressed and which cannot, an open, vibrant and diverse society quickly breaks down. Similarly, when our court system is used to silence those who oppose powerful actors, we all lose the opportunity to hear all sides of an issue and come to our own conclusions. Freedom of expression is the right to speak, BUT ALSO THE RIGHT TO HEAR. It is almost impossible to imagine how a democracy could work without the protection of those most basic rights and freedoms, and yet-in Canada-they continue to be under attack in many ways." .... Canadian Civil Liberties Association.

DISINFORMATION  =  THE NEW CENSORSHIP

 

I always considered myself slightly left of centre, but we’ve swung radical left. People now accept all sorts of government overreach.  Individual freedom is suppressed. People are discouraged from thinking for themselves. Children are being indoctrinated in Marxist-nihilism. The squeeze is on against family and the middle class lifestyle that represent the American Dream.  Kids are confused about gender and sexual orientation.  They are told their country is racist and patriarchal.  People are categorized by superficial markers to determine their levels of victimhood for compensation through socialist collectivization and redistribution of wealth.  Government buys votes by indebting future generations to pay for today’s handouts.  The excuses given for the inflation and high cost of living are health and climate purity and war. None of this policy is necessary and our institutions are breaking down.  

Edited April 18, 2022 by Zeitgeist

[ironstone]

At least one pollster has come right out and said he'll do whatever it takes to make sure the Conservatives do not get elected. 

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