World Economic Forum (WEF) Influence on Canadian Policy

[eyeball]

8 minutes ago, West said:

I think we went down this rabbithole as the concern is digital ID would be another way to clamp down on "unacceptable views". 

Oh well, that sounds better than being clamped down on by beatings and torture but given how malevolent you seem to think our government and WEF is we'll probably have that too. 

Edited March 20, 2022 by eyeball

[West]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

Oh well, that sounds better than being clamped down on by beatings and torture but given how malevolent you seem to think our government and WEF is we'll probably have that too. 

Considering our current ruling party are full of folks who equate disagreeing with them to violence, ya don't think I'll jump on the WEF bandwagon anytime soon

[eyeball]

9 minutes ago, West said:

Considering our current ruling party are full of folks who equate disagreeing with them to violence, ya don't think I'll jump on the WEF bandwagon anytime soon

I choose to be guided by my conviction that our current ruling party is secretive and avoids transparency and accountability and that's what gives me pause to consider before jumping on their bandwagons. That holds true for my governance by anyone, including WEF if it ever came down to that.

I'm not a partisan and never ever will be. I'm simply a progressive outie that has a few issues with how the innies of any flavour conduct my business.

[Moonbox]

4 hours ago, West said:

So ask no questions about why are Deputy Prime Minister held a side gig with the WEF, the "non profit" now ushering in digital ID and other draconian nonsense?

Ask all the questions you want, but Russel Brand is a burnt out-nutter whos publications and statements are regularly lampooned for their historical inaccuracies and made-up bullshit.  He has no credibility whatsoever and the only people who listen to him are the losers who get psyched-up by his hot-takes. 

3 hours ago, West said:

Now when you have people who are actually specialists in vaccines, as is the case with Dr. Briddle, then they would carry more weight on a vaccine than your average GP.

Dr. Bridle's claims have been widely discredited as bad science by far better scientists than him.  The errors he made in both his conclusions and the interpretation of the studies he cites were numerous and substantial, but that doesn't matter to you.  All that matters is that you were able to comb the world for an "expert" who sort of said something you liked, and because of this you've raised an associate university professor up as the eminent authority on these things (which he is most certainly not).  

The only counter-argument you have here is, "but but but WHO!  Dr. Fauci!  CDC!  Media CONSPIRACY!" which is the same used-up rag you been wipe yourself with every time the evidence/science/reality is against you.  

[Zeitgeist]

6 hours ago, Moonbox said:

Russel Brand is what you consider a reliable source of information?  A British comedian and mind-warped former heroin addict is the expert you're brining into the debate?  

 

Oh it’s knitting girl again.  Do you do anything apart from knit?  You’re the biggest Trudeau cheerleader I’ve seen on here.  Did you even watch the interview on the clip?   No, you can’t get past your own biases to listen and learn.  If you’re not concerned about the WEF’s agenda and the WEF’s influence in Canada, I can’t help you.  Again though, people like you are the reason Canada is in trouble. Unquestioning and self-satisfied.  As long as the money rolls in for you, the masses can eat cake, right?

Edited March 21, 2022 by Zeitgeist

[Zeitgeist]

5 hours ago, West said:

Yup. If we want to see WHY we, the little pee ons, should be concerned about big government and big business joining forces to erode due process and circumvent the Charter this is why. 

Corps aren't beholden to the Charter therefore a bank, as they did with the trucker's convoy, can make up some bs about breaking terms of service with pressure from the government should you dare hold an "unacceptable view". 

 

I think we need legislation to prevent government from tampering with bank accounts for political reasons.  I think a number of safeguards against government overreach need to be enacted.

[Moonbox]

1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said:

You’re the biggest Trudeau cheerleader I’ve seen on here.

I think Trudeau's a clown.  This is you projecting your limp anger on others.  

1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said:

 Did you even watch the interview on the clip?   No, you can’t get past your own biases to listen and learn.

I'm not watching every moronic clip you put in front of me.  Russel Brand's bullshit has been so regularly debunked and his exercises in historical make-believe are peerless.  The dude is a former heroin addict/comedian/provocateur and has only slightly more credibility than your pal Alex Jones.  

1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said:

If you’re not concerned about the WEF’s agenda and the WEF’s influence in Canada, I can’t help you.  

I'm not concerned by conspiracy buffoons' exercises in make-believe.  Literally nobody of sound mind needs your "halp" jumping down this bozo rabbit hole.   

 

Edited March 21, 2022 by Moonbox

[West]

37 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

regularly debunked

One of the telltale signs of a CNN viewer. Won't actually examine for himself. Just says "it's been debunked" and thinks he's made a point. 

Edited March 21, 2022 by West

[West]

1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said:

I think we need legislation to prevent government from tampering with bank accounts for political reasons.  I think a number of safeguards against government overreach need to be enacted.

I fully agree though it seems this government is more interested in passing legislation to enable cronyism. 

[Zeitgeist]

32 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

I think Trudeau's a clown.  This is you projecting your limp anger on others.  

I'm not watching every moronic clip you put in front of me.  Russel Brand's bullshit has been so regularly debunked and his exercises in historical make-believe are peerless.  The dude is a former heroin addict/comedian/provocateur and has only slightly more credibility than your pal Alex Jones.  

I'm not concerned by conspiracy buffoons' exercises in make-believe.  Literally nobody of sound mind needs your "halp" jumping down this bozo rabbit hole.   

 

I’ve never watched an Alex Jones clip and I’m not into conspiracy theories.  You’re a government toady.  You have no thoughtful opinions or evidence, just troll insults.  

Edited March 21, 2022 by Zeitgeist

[West]

2 hours ago, Moonbox said:

Ask all the questions you want, but Russel Brand is a burnt out-nutter whos publications and statements are regularly lampooned for their historical inaccuracies and made-up bullshit.  He has no credibility whatsoever and the only people who listen to him are the losers who get psyched-up by his hot-takes. 

Dr. Bridle's claims have been widely discredited as bad science by far better scientists than him.  The errors he made in both his conclusions and the interpretation of the studies he cites were numerous and substantial, but that doesn't matter to you.  All that matters is that you were able to comb the world for an "expert" who sort of said something you liked, and because of this you've raised an associate university professor up as the eminent authority on these things (which he is most certainly not).  

The only counter-argument you have here is, "but but but WHO!  Dr. Fauci!  CDC!  Media CONSPIRACY!" which is the same used-up rag you been wipe yourself with every time the evidence/science/reality is against you.  

Do you even know what his claims are? 

And what conspiracy are we talking about here? The fact you have tenured professors raising alarms? That's not a conspiracy. That actually happened lol. 

As for Russell Brand and his types, their podcasts are far more informative that a 30 second clip of some nut job on CTV screaming "THATS BEEN DEBUUUNKED" ?. You can watch full unedited clips and not just a 3 second clip then a dancing head telling you what you should think they said. 

[West]

5 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

I’ve never watched an Alex Jones clip and I’m not into conspiracy theories.  You’re a government toady.  You have no thoughtful opinions or evidence, just troll insults.  

He's a CNN viewer. You can tell by the jargon he uses.

[Zeitgeist]

12 minutes ago, West said:

He's a CNN viewer. You can tell by the jargon he uses.

The scary thing is that many Canadians think like him. They don’t have media literacy skills or make a connection between their attitudes and the bad government policies that mirror them.  Canada is the frog slowly brought to a boil that doesn’t realize it’s near death.

Edited March 21, 2022 by Zeitgeist

[West]

24 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

The scary thing is that many Canadians think like him. They don’t have media literacy skills or make a connection between their attitudes and the bad government policies that mirror them.  Canada is the frog slowly brought to a boil that doesn’t realize it’s near death.

Russell Brand I noticed is the legacy media's newest whipping boy. They would rather feed you everything in sound bites and then tell you what to think. Folks who allow you unedited access to hour long interviews are bad bad "debunked conspiracy theorists"

[cougar]

2 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

I think we need legislation to prevent government from tampering with bank accounts for political reasons.  I think a number of safeguards against government overreach need to be enacted.

There should be absolutely no legitimate reason for a Government to tamper with your bank account, even for tax evasion or sponsoring criminal organizations !

All they should be allowed to do is file a civil or criminal case against you and if successful, get whatever money the judgement is for or seize your assets.

What they have done is criminal and they should be on the hook, but if they pay compensations for their wrongdoing it is with OUR tax money.  This is so f"""d  !

[eyeball]

25 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

The scary thing is that many Canadians think like him. They don’t have media literacy skills or make a connection between their attitudes and the bad government policies that mirror them.  Canada is the frog slowly brought to a boil that doesn’t realize it’s near death.

Would you support having Canadians pass a basic issues comprehension course to certify their fitness to vote?

It seem to me we should be doing more than essentially holding our breath and crossing our fingers in hopes it'll deter the election of deadly governments.

[West]

4 minutes ago, cougar said:

There should be absolutely no legitimate reason for a Government to tamper with your bank account, even for tax evasion or sponsoring criminal organizations !

All they should be allowed to do is file a civil or criminal case against you and if successful, get whatever money the judgement is for or seize your assets.

What they have done is criminal and they should be on the hook, but if they pay compensations for their wrongdoing it is with OUR tax money.  This is so f"""d  !

Exactly. We should also make it easier for politicians to be held liable for blatant power abuses. 

[eyeball]

4 minutes ago, West said:

Exactly. We should also make it easier for politicians to be held liable for blatant power abuses. 

?

[cougar]

7 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Would you support having Canadians pass a basic issues comprehension course to certify their fitness to vote?

Unfortunately it will never be right for three main reasons.

1. Misinformation in the media - all kinds of brainwashing propaganda, including false promises by the political candidates.

2. Lack of viable options - all available candidates are w-s from an old w-house.  You have one elected , then his son a few years later?  Give me a break!

3. No accountability.  They have done just about everything to us - lied, cheated, stole, limited our freedoms, destroyed the environment through their actions, given away chunks of the country to their buddies, no matter what they do, nobody is ever going to jail, let alone face a harsher punishment. 

[eyeball]

30 minutes ago, cougar said:

Unfortunately it will never be right for three main reasons.

1. Misinformation in the media - all kinds of brainwashing propaganda, including false promises by the political candidates.

2. Lack of viable options - all available candidates are w-s from an old w-house.  You have one elected , then his son a few years later?  Give me a break!

3. No accountability.  They have done just about everything to us - lied, cheated, stole, limited our freedoms, destroyed the environment through their actions, given away chunks of the country to their buddies, no matter what they do, nobody is ever going to jail, let alone face a harsher punishment. 

1. I'm pretty sure misinformation is an effect of the secretiveness that's been baked into our governance.  Media has to make a living and report something and if empty promises are all that politicians serve up it's no wonder it's such thin gruel.  Media can only penetrate the government so far on its own.  Politicians can be as stubbornly evasive as a 4 year old narcissist. 

2. Maybe we need to pay more to attract better talent.

3. Well, you should know my solution for getting in between politicians and their buddies.  Maybe it's as simple as offering politicians more than their buddies do.  

[Zeitgeist]

2 hours ago, cougar said:

There should be absolutely no legitimate reason for a Government to tamper with your bank account, even for tax evasion or sponsoring criminal organizations !

All they should be allowed to do is file a civil or criminal case against you and if successful, get whatever money the judgement is for or seize your assets.

What they have done is criminal and they should be on the hook, but if they pay compensations for their wrongdoing it is with OUR tax money.  This is so f"""d  !

I still can’t believe what unfolded in our country over the past two months. I never thought I’d see evil moves by the government of Canada.  Sure, acts of corruption by individuals or groups are in all governments.  The total alienation, vilification, and removal of rights from a segment of the population is nothing less than fascist. Trudeau and Freeland, no matter what else they have done or will do, will always be tyrants to me.  They are twisted characters from nightmares.  The fact that they took such radical, unconstitutional moves against peaceful citizens tells me all I need to know about their characters and morality.

It feels like 1930’s Germany because the population are mostly accepting this degraded citizenship and government.  I don’t know exactly why: fear, exhaustion, resignation.  Even on this site it seems that there are those who understand the gravity and those who think it’s no big deal.  The World Economic Forum is tremendously powerful, backed by most governments and around 500 corporations.  Our Governor General’s inaction is worrying. The Senate took a stand against the Emergencies Act, but many military veterans and elder statesmen were treated like trash by government and the police who supported them.  The Economist and countless news outlets around the world expressed their disgust at Trudeau’s words and deeds, yet the government is still in place, the federal vaccine mandates and pass remain, and the influence of the WEF won’t even get a mention in mainstream media.

Putin knew what was unfolding in Canada as he launched his invasion.  He knows Trudeau and Freeland are compromised and freedom is under attack in Canada.  He also knows that the public’s attention has been successfully turned to Ukraine.

Canadians are distracted from how they were just violated, but we can all tell ourselves, at least we’re not suffering like the Ukrainian people.  Then we can train and send arms to people we don’t understand, including Neo-Nazis.   I no longer believe the narratives we’re fed by government and mainstream media because they’ve lost credibility.  I hope the Ukrainian people prevail, though I’m not sure freedom will prevail in Canada.

Edited March 21, 2022 by Zeitgeist

[Michael Hardner]

8 hours ago, eyeball said:

1. I'm pretty sure misinformation is an effect of the secretiveness that's been baked into our governance. 

2. Media has to make a living and report something and if empty promises are all that politicians serve up it's no wonder it's such thin gruel.  Media can only penetrate the government so far on its own.  Politicians can be as stubbornly evasive as a 4 year old narcissist. 

3. Maybe we need to pay more to attract better talent.

4. Well, you should know my solution for getting in between politicians and their buddies.  Maybe it's as simple as offering politicians more than their buddies do.  

1. Only in the same way mould is baked into drywall.  To wit, all drywall will absorb moisture at some point, and mould will grow.  The thing that made governance in our way 'better' is that change and criticism was also baked in.

2. This site is media.  If we make a better conversation here, than what you are calling 'media' will look dumber and dumber in comparison and will lose influence.

3. We should pay conspiracy theory people to stay home and shut up IMO.   

4. Influence and corruption from lobbying is now a smaller problem than offshore disinfo or smug, vain, fat people who refuse to listen.  We should give them sedatives.

[West]

MIT and Central Bank are working on digital currency. Better hope Trudeau doesn't find your views "unacceptable".

https://www.bankofcanada.ca/2022/03/central-bank-digital-currency-collaboration/?fbclid=IwAR1Gvl7VvX99jbcuBNjgYkmokHyIEAMtLqlMKPebVR462IKUVL36vzkSnRY

[Nexii]

I don't think you need to be a conspiracy theorist to see that the Emergency Act was a power grab, and borderline into coup territory. All this conspiracy stuff detracts from the core issues. Only around 5-10% of people are of the personality type that want to believe any dumb conspiracy that's cooked up.

That being said I think Trudeau's ideology is highly influenced by WEF. But I don't think WEF is controlling him in some secret shadow cabal. If they were that powerful we'd already be much further down the path of totalitarianism.

[Zeitgeist]

26 minutes ago, West said:

MIT and Central Bank are working on digital currency. Better hope Trudeau doesn't find your views "unacceptable".

https://www.bankofcanada.ca/2022/03/central-bank-digital-currency-collaboration/?fbclid=IwAR1Gvl7VvX99jbcuBNjgYkmokHyIEAMtLqlMKPebVR462IKUVL36vzkSnRY

Yes and much can be done with digital currency, including limiting what you can buy or simply deactivating your use of it.  Digital ID and digital national currency should be banned.  We already have digital ID (the vax pass), and those who don’t carry it have fewer rights.  This is techno-fascism pure and simple.