War In Ukraine

[Aristides]

4 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Dude...the Azovs are self proclaimed neo-nazis. No matter how you sugar coat it.

Those Russian dudes wearing the skull and crossbones should just be honest and wear the complete Schutzstaffel uniform, I don't think the Spanish main was overrun with Russian pirates.

Edited April 3, 2023 by Aristides

[Aristides]

SS Totenkopf

 

[Aristides]

SS- Totenkopfverbande

 

I'm wondering why you experts on Nazis never picked up on this, unless you just decided to ignore it.

Edited April 4, 2023 by Aristides

[Nationalist]

4 hours ago, Aristides said:

Those Russian dudes wearing the skull and crossbones should just be honest and wear the complete Schutzstaffel uniform, I don't think the Spanish main was overrun with Russian pirates.

Whatever...the "good guys" have neo-nazis.

[Aristides]

18 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Whatever...the "good guys" have neo-nazis.

So you did choose to ignore it. Thought so.

[Nationalist]

6 minutes ago, Aristides said:

So you did choose to ignore it. Thought so.

Ignore what? Look dum-dum...I don't care what so ever about either side. But when you try to deny the truth, regardless of who it's about, I'll expose the BS.

You can whimper about that all you like. I'm on neither side of this crap.

[Aristides]

2 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Ignore what? Look dum-dum...I don't care what so ever about either side. But when you try to deny the truth, regardless of who it's about, I'll expose the BS.

 

Ignore the fact that your hero's wear the emblem of one of the most notorious SS divisions and overseers of death camps.

 

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You can whimper about that all you like. I'm on neither side of this crap.

Gawd, I don't know how you can expect anyone to believe that fairy tale.

[Nationalist]

10 hours ago, Aristides said:

Ignore the fact that your hero's wear the emblem of one of the most notorious SS divisions and overseers of death camps.

 

Gawd, I don't know how you can expect anyone to believe that fairy tale.

My heroes? LOL. Nice try.

[Aristides]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

My heroes? LOL. Nice try.

Your responses speak for themselves.

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

Your responses speak for themselves.

As do yours

[Aristides]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

As do yours

Absolutely.

[Dougie93]

18 hours ago, Aristides said:

SS- Totenkopfverbande

I'm wondering why you experts on Nazis never picked up on this, unless you just decided to ignore it.

the Totenkopf predates the Third Reich

the Totenkopf actually originates under Frederik the Great with his Husaren-Regiment

who became known as the "Death's Head Hussars" for their distinctive capbadge

here is Kaiser Wilhelm II wearing the Totenkopf

and make no mistake, Kaiser Bill absolutely despised Corporal Hitler and the Nazis

[Aristides]

3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

the Totenkopf predates the Third Reich

the Totenkopf actually originates under Frederik the Great with his Husaren-Regiment

who became known as the "Death's Head Hussars" for their distinctive capbadge

here is Kaiser Wilhelm II wearing the Totenkopf

and make no mistake, Kaiser Bill absolutely despised Corporal Hitler and the Nazis

Kaiser Bill started WWI

 

Odd that these Russians would adopt an emblem from a country they had to fight in two world wars. Don't you think?

 

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, Aristides said:

Kaiser Bill started WWI

Odd that these Russians would adopt an emblem from a country they had to fight in two world wars. Don't you think?

Kaiser Bill did not start World War One

the Austrians started World War One

Kaiser Bill was simply bound to fight for them by military alliance

I don't think the Russians mean to invoke the Prussian Hussars nor the Waffen-SS

those are both sworn enemies of the Russians

it's just a skull & crossbones

lots of military units fly that symbol

here is the Royal Navy flying skull & crossbones for example

in naval parlance, it's called a "Jolly Roger"

[Dougie93]

9 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Odd that these Russians would adopt an emblem from a country they had to fight in two world wars. Don't you think?

The British Army wears the same emblem

here we see the capbadge of the British Army 17th/21st Lancers

motto ; Death or Glory

that is what the skull & crossbones is meant to represent, it's the military symbol for that motto

[Aristides]

The Schlieffen Plan to invade France was developed in 1905.

[Dougie93]

see, when you wear the Skull & Crossbones on your capbadge

that is your skull and your bones

you are saying that is what you will be, if you do not achieve glory in battle

[Dougie93]

5 minutes ago, Aristides said:

The Schlieffen Plan to invade France was developed in 1905.

it wasn't World War One because Germany invaded France

that was only Franco - Prussian War Two

it didn't become World War One until Britain declared war on Germany over Belgian Neutrality

that is what made it a World War

but Britain also had plans to defeat Germany in 1905

Britain's plan was to starve Germany into submission with a naval blockade

which is the plan that worked in the end, when the starving Germans overthrew the Kaiser in 1918

[Dougie93]

look, here is French fighter ace Charles Nungesser with a skull & crossbones on his plane

does that make him a Nazi ?

seems unlikely

[Dougie93]

look, US Navy VF-17 Skull & Crossbones on an F-14

the American Nazi Party has its own US Navy fighter squadron ?

seems unlikely

[Dougie93]

that particular Skull & Crossbones seems to be the emblem a unit of Russian volunteers fighting in Ukraine

it doesn't appear to be a Totenkopf actually, it's not the Prussian Totenkopf

just a run o' the mill Skull & Crossbones, it doesn't look like the German Death's Head at all

[Aristides]

1 hour ago, Dougie93 said:

it wasn't World War One because Germany invaded France

that was only Franco - Prussian War Two

it didn't become World War One until Britain declared war on Germany over Belgian Neutrality

that is what made it a World War

but Britain also had plans to defeat Germany in 1905

Britain's plan was to starve Germany into submission with a naval blockade

which is the plan that worked in the end, when the starving Germans overthrew the Kaiser in 1918

Exactly, Germany invaded France through Belgium.

Germany won the Franco Prussian war, why the need to invade again?

[Dougie93]

12 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Exactly, Germany invaded France through Belgium.

Germany won the Franco Prussian war, why the need to invade again?

again, it all started with Austria

Austria started the war against Russia over Serbia

Germany was in an alliance with Austria against the Triple Entente : France, Russia, Britain

thus once Austria started the war with Russia

Germany was dragged into it

which meant that Germany had to knock France out of the war, so it could defeat Russia in the East

but then the British, after have declared ourselves to be in Splendid Isolation from the Contitnent

reversed ourselves and entered the war in the name of Belgian Neutrality

Germany had calculated that Britain would not do that, Germany took Britain at its word : Splendid Isolation

so based on a vague position taken by the British, Germany miscalculated as to our intentions

what actually happened was that Winston Churchill was part of the Liberal government coalition

the Liberals wanted to stay out of the war on the Continent

but Churchill said that if the Liberals would not defend Belgian Neutrality

then Churchill would cross the floor to the Tories

the Liberals knew that would bring their government down

so in order to keep Churchill onside, the Liberals went to war for Belgian Neutrality

Edited April 4, 2023 by Dougie93

[Nationalist]

10 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Exactly, Germany invaded France through Belgium.

Germany won the Franco Prussian war, why the need to invade again?

Giggle...so looks like you and your horseshit has been undressed nicely.

Thanks guys.

[Aristides]

Britain's strength was always its navy, its regular army was puny compared to France and Germany. That's why Kaiser Bill called it the "contemptible little army". Britain and Germany had been engaged in a naval arms race since the turn of the century with Germany trying to match the RN's strength. 

Germany requested Britain's neutrality in the event of a European war. Britain refused. The Germans miscalculated in 1914 just as Hitler did in 1939. Britains foreign policy was always to back the weaker side in Continental conflicts to prevent one power from becoming too dominant.