War In Ukraine

[Moonbox]

7 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Well at least I'm not a little liar.

You're proving that you are.  I have your quote.  I can show that every time you BS us and try to pretend you're interested in peace.  You're not.  You want to see Putin win and that's what you said.  

You calling me a liar for that is just doubling down on your BS.  You can't show me that I'm a liar.  You have no evidence of it, because what I'm saying is actually true and demonstrable.  You're just upset that we keep throwing this quote in your face, because it makes you look retarded.  

Edited February 2 by Moonbox

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, Moonbox said:

You're proving that you are.  I have your quote.  I can show that every time you BS us and try to pretend you're interested in peace.  You're not.  You want to see Putin win and that's what you said.  

You calling me a liar for that is just doubling down on your BS.  You can't show me that I'm a liar.  You have no evidence of it, because what I'm saying is actually true and demonstrable.  You're just upset that we keep throwing this quote in your face, because it makes you look retarded.  

Go ahead Sally. Enjoy your blood sport on TV...

[Aristides]

Seems Vlad the Destroyer's tactic is to throw poorly trained conscripts at the Ukrainian lines in order to sacrifice them so  the Ukrainians will expose their positions and they can then be attacked by the criminals of the Wagner Group. That's how Vlad the Destroyer values his own people.

[Moonbox]

Wagner group is getting thrown under the bus.  It's on the outs.  

That conscripts are being thrown into the meatgrinder appears true, but then Russia's lost something like 30-50% of their professional manpower in the last year made that necessary.

[athos]

12 hours ago, Contrarian said:

Morning to any communist sympathiser, FSB sympathiser, Russian bot and disenfranchised Westerners that do not like our democratic system. 

😂 This news is for you, it has the word Lenin in it, a statue, and Putin's visit. If some of you are in Russia, maybe head over and take a picture with Putin and Lenin instead of trying to brainwash people on Western forums. 

---> Bust Of Stalin Erected In Volgograd Ahead Of Putin Visit.

The new bust is the second of Stalin in the city. 😂 Members of the local Communist Party in December 2019 installed a sculpture dedicated to Stalin on the grounds of the party’s regional committee.

(Radio Free Europe).

Again you sound like Klaus Schwab's communist.

😀

[Contrarian]

12 minutes ago, athos said:

Again you sound like Klaus Schwab's communist.

😀

So first is Soros, then is Bill Gates, now is Schwab.

In one of my predictions of 2023 I wrote that the mind of the populist will find another conspiracy to latch on.

What are you cooking there in the FSB labs to feed our angry western men that do not like democracy?

Some conspiracy with this Schwab fellow? I have no idea who he is to be honest, probably some elitist that you are jealous of, exactly how Lenin's mob was. 

You are a communist through and through, where do you keep the red flag? Look, your troops are flying it, in 2023, 🤣

Your Communist Flag that you worship 😂 try again, you are as weak in arguments as the Russian army 😂

Edited February 2 by Contrarian

[Nationalist]

https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-could-launch-new-offensive-on-wars-anniversary-ukraine-says-2023-2?op=1

Here it comes.

Would this be a good time to negotiate a peace settlement?

Or is the rising death toll and suffering the point?

Edited February 4 by Nationalist

[taxme]

On 2/2/2023 at 1:54 PM, Contrarian said:

So first is Soros, then is Bill Gates, now is Schwab.

In one of my predictions of 2023 I wrote that the mind of the populist will find another conspiracy to latch on.

What are you cooking there in the FSB labs to feed our angry western men that do not like democracy?

Some conspiracy with this Schwab fellow? I have no idea who he is to be honest, probably some elitist that you are jealous of, exactly how Lenin's mob was. 

You are a communist through and through, where do you keep the red flag? Look, your troops are flying it, in 2023, 🤣

Your Communist Flag that you worship 😂 try again, you are as weak in arguments as the Russian army 😂

Just whom are you referring to as the communist here? Zelensky or Putin? Just for your information, Russia is not communist anymore. And the last I heard was that Russia was winning the war with Ukraine. The warmongers in America knows that they cannot defeat Putin unless they try and use nuclear weapons to do so. That ain't going to happen, pardner. The war is over. Now all that is needed is for Fascist Zelensky to raise the white flag and surrender. 

It's sad for me to see so many of my white brothers and sisters killing each other. 😒

[Aristides]

3 minutes ago, taxme said:

Just whom are you referring to as the communist here? Zelensky or Putin? Just for your information, Russia is not communist anymore. And the last I heard was that Russia was winning the war with Ukraine. The warmongers in America knows that they cannot defeat Putin unless they try and use nuclear weapons to do so. That ain't going to happen, pardner. The war is over. Now all that is needed is for Fascist Zelensky to raise the white flag and surrender. 

It's sad for me to see so many of my white brothers and sisters killing each other. 😒

It's Russians killing Ukrainians on Ukrainian soil. No one in Russia has been attacked.

[Contrarian]

12 hours ago, taxme said:

Just whom are you referring to as the communist here? Zelensky or Putin? Just for your information, Russia is not communist anymore. And the last I heard was that Russia was winning the war with Ukraine. The warmongers in America knows that they cannot defeat Putin unless they try and use nuclear weapons to do so. That ain't going to happen, pardner. The war is over. Now all that is needed is for Fascist Zelensky to raise the white flag and surrender. 

It's sad for me to see so many of my white brothers and sisters killing each other. 😒

Let me give my opinions on what you wrote: 

a. Yes, I know what the Russian leadership calls itself today, but who is leading Russia? 2 former secret police members. One is Putin, former East Germany KGB watchman and Patriarch Kirill, the leader of the Church, code name Mikhailov. So one person that served the communist secret police is leading the politics, the other the religious establishment. So, in my books 100 % they are communists. They just changed their clothes. An animal can change his coat but not his character.

b. Zelenskyy is not a fascist, he is an actor landed in a position bigger than him, his international politics are a disaster in my view, but for an Ukrainian nationalist that is waiting for years for some payback towards the Russians he is the best point of reference to use towards that goal. Is hard for you as a Canadian to understand the hatred there. If you had a neighbour that starved you, chased you, beat you, took your women, did not let you pray, you don't think that someone will wait every opportunity for payback? This is what the Russians did to the Ukrainians, even before communism during the Tsar's time. At one point the hatred was as such that the Ukrainians allied themselves briefly with Hitler. When Hitler was playing the same game as Stalin, Ukrainians turned their weapons against both sides. 

c. In my estimation there won't be any nukes used, worst case scenario will be a frozen conflict as in North Korea - South Korea after a few more months of battle in the East. I think America understands this war is much more than a regional skirmish Ukraine - Russia. It goes beyond that, to Beijing, to the Mullahs in Iran, to every authoritarian type of system around the world. As long as the Ukrainians want to fight, help will be provided. There is also something that I read that there is an Ukrainian general ready to take Zelenskyy's place in case Zelenskyy becomes too soft on the war, however his trip to America showed that he is secure enough to leave the country without a coup is my take. In practical terms the US can not lower their guard and allow Russia to win this war, you can't be number 1 in the world while being nice all the time. As a conclusion, nobody will win or lose the war is my take, well I guess we'll know in a couple of months. 

c. That depends where you read who wins the war. The Russian and Ukrainian intelligence have the same father: the KGB. I don't necessarily take everything the Ukrainians say face value but this war is a disaster for Russia. The Hostomel airport raid which was supposed to give them 1 week access to Kyiv was their failure due to the American intelligence that helped an invaded country defend its territory. The CIA warned the Ukrainian intelligence that this is where the Russians want to strike first. Reports are all over the internet about the meeting prior. They were right. I think you would agree if someone flies in your house, you would welcome intelligence from the Americans to kick those people out?  

d. In regards as to why your white brothers and sisters are fighting each other is easy. You have on display 2 major factors why human beings are killing each other: 

1. COMMUNISM (Russia being lead by 2 secret police members from the KGB, former communist militia). Yes, I know now, today they call themselves religious and nationalistic. 😂

2. RELIGION (I mentioned this several times but Russian Patriarch Kirill is not a priest, he was a communist police member) however he is using Religion as a vehicle to brainwash other small minded men like him to go to war by invading a sovereign country in 2023. This is not medieval times, is 2023. It does not matter for old communists members that now pose as Russian nationalists and religious folk. 😂 

---> I tend to agree with a Russian former soldier which flew to Georgia because he did not want to invade another country. He said: "The nationalists and heroes are us that left Russia, the traitors are the ones that stayed to fight a non-sense war."

Edited February 5 by Contrarian

[Moonbox]

On 2/4/2023 at 8:53 PM, taxme said:

 And the last I heard was that Russia was winning the war with Ukraine.

Where are you hearing that?  Off-shore propaganda farms?  

What part of the retreat from Kiev, Kharkiv or Kherson do you consider winning?  Soledar?  The 6 month attritional campaign to (maybe) take Bakhmut?  

On 2/4/2023 at 8:53 PM, taxme said:

The warmongers in America knows that they cannot defeat Putin unless they try and use nuclear weapons to do so.

The Americans (Europeans etc) know that they can float Ukraine's military with superior equipment to what Russia's dragging into the fight with second-hand surplus and economies of scale that dwarf Russia's.  

On 2/4/2023 at 8:53 PM, taxme said:

That ain't going to happen, pardner. The war is over. Now all that is needed is for Fascist Zelensky to raise the white flag and surrender. 

Seems the Ukrainians disagree.  Check Russia's GDP against NATO/EU/USA and tell us how they outproduce and outscale Ukraine.  The weapons supplies are only getting started.  Tanks and AFV's were unthinkable a year ago.  Now they're heading to Ukraine.  While NATO's creeping weapon supply continues, Putin impotently bluffs with the same threats about escalation on which he cannot follow through.  

Edited February 6 by Moonbox

[Contrarian]

On 2/5/2023 at 2:06 AM, Contrarian said:

I think America understands this war is much more than a regional skirmish Ukraine - Russia. It goes beyond that, to Beijing, to the Mullahs in Iran, to every authoritarian type of

---> More to this point: 

Edited February 6 by Contrarian

[bcsapper]

2 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

---> More to this point: 

A new target for the Stuxnet Virus.  Maybe those drones can be programmed to fly up Putin's arse first time out.

[Nationalist]

Russia is about to unleash 500000 soldiers on Ukraine. 

This slaughter can be stopped.

[Boges]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Russia is about to unleash 500000 soldiers on Ukraine. 

This slaughter can be stopped.

Cite? 

If they were anywhere near competent, they would have been used already to stem huge losses in territory since September. 

[Nationalist]

51 minutes ago, Boges said:

Cite? 

If they were anywhere near competent, they would have been used already to stem huge losses in territory since September. 

Quote

Ukrainian Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov told French media on Wednesday that Russia had 500,000 troops ready for an attack to come in weeks. That number is far higher than the 300,000 newly enlisted soldiers Russian President Vladimir Putin called up this past autumn. 

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/3841230-ukraine-warns-russia-massing-500000-troops-on-border-for-offensive/

 

[Contrarian]

47 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

 

I highly doubt that is 500, 000, most likely is the Ukrainians saying that to get more weapons. You would not lie to get more weapons if someone is in your house? 

You can't filter propaganda on both sides it seems. What a fine specimen you would have made for the KGB.

Incredible. You still took that point to fit your narrative, can not filter at all.

Better luck next time. = )

[Boges]

So the source is Ukraine. 

Mark that the first time member Nationalist believed anything Ukraine has said. 

[Nationalist]

22 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

I highly doubt that is 500, 000, most likely is the Ukrainians saying that to get more weapons. You would not lie to get more weapons if someone is in your house? 

You can't filter propaganda on both sides it seems. What a fine specimen you would have made for the KGB.

Incredible. You still took that point to fit your narrative, can not filter at all.

Better luck next time. = )

Don't wish me luck. Save that for the Ukrainians.

[Aristides]

47 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Don't wish me luck. Save that for the Ukrainians.

The Ukrainians have been making their own luck.

[Nationalist]

13 minutes ago, Aristides said:

The Ukrainians have been making their own luck.

So I see...

 

[athos]

 

Close relatives of Ukrainian soldiers are begging the Russian authorities not to release the captured Ukrainian soldiers because the Ukrainian authorities are returning them to the front to die for Anglo-Khazarian interests

A frostbitten Ukrainian soldier who was forced to return to the front after being released from Russian captivity.

😟

Edited February 8 by athos

[Aristides]

1 hour ago, athos said:

 

Close relatives of Ukrainian soldiers are begging the Russian authorities not to release the captured Ukrainian soldiers because the Ukrainian authorities are returning them to the front to die for Anglo-Khazarian interests

A frostbitten Ukrainian soldier who was forced to return to the front after being released from Russian captivity.

😟

Could just as easily be a Russian.

[Aristides]

Criticism of the war in Russia gets you 9 years in a Gulag.

https://www.rferl.org/a/rusia-siberia-journalist-facing-nine-years-prison-ukraine-war/32259948.html

[Manymoons11]

what's amazing is that NATO is totally confronting Russia as the sole responsible force behind this war. Condemning Russia for its' abuse of human rights, its' uncalled for aggression and its' lack of humanity with their attacks and crimes against the people of Ukraine. I do not know what will happen to Russia now, there will definitely be consequences...