Dougie93 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 34 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: All warfare is deception...said someone. We're seeing in this affair for sure. The citizen-taken videos are really the only ones you can see some of the reality. Ghosts are everywhere else it seems. it really seems like Putin deceived himself into thinking this was going to be a walkover I was not expecting them to invade this winter, because they only had 200,000 stood to I said it would take 400,000 minimum to take Ukraine up to the Dnieper, never mind west Ukraine I didn't think they'd actually go on an operation of this scope with only 200,000 troops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: it really seems like Putin deceived himself into thinking this was going to be a walkover Perhaps his objectives are not what the media says they are. Much speculation as to why anything...but like Bill Nye...consider this. What if the objective has already been met? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: What if the objective has already been met? seems unlikely that this was the objective end state what is the gain ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: what is the gain ? The past was alterable. The past never had been altered. Oceania was at war with Eastasia. Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: the past was alterable. The past never had been altered. Oceania was at war with Eastasia. Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia. ha ha ha ha Vladimir Goldstein 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 30 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Perhaps his objectives are not what the media says they are. Much speculation as to why anything...but like Bill Nye...consider this. it does make me think back to the 1980s, as a soldier serving in the late Cold War when the MIC was threat inflating the Soviets, saying that they were Ten Feet Tall again but even as a young Private Soldier I thought at the time : low grade conscript army with junky equipment if they cross the Inner German Border, we are going to kick their asses mind you, the scenario always ended with the Soviets having to resort to theater tactical thermonuclear war which spiraled out of control to the threshold of Herman Kahn's Insensate Spasm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Bingo. see what fun we will have, stuck in a trench together, when they come to conscript us for World War Three ? should I come out to Vancouver to join the Seaforth's or are you coming east to join the 48th ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 Yup...the one thing of theirs that is top-shelf. Rockets and things that go on-top of them. They are not to be mocked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: see what fun we will have, stuck in a trench together, when they come to conscript us for World War Three ? should I come out to Vancouver to join the Seaforth's or are you coming east to join the 48th ? Soldiering is a young fellow's game. But I am the sort that might enjoy dishing out revolutionary justice to the mighty. Every revolution needs its Marat. Edited March 1, 2022 by DogOnPorch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Soldiering is a young fellow's game. only the light infantry is if it's mechanized I could still handle it, I'm only fiftysomething Edited March 1, 2022 by Dougie93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 I just don't have a dog in this fight it does seem like the media fabricates Russia hoax becoming a self fulfilling prospect with Vladimir Goldstein believing his own press releases I only sympathize with the civilians and front line soldiers including the poor Russian conscripts being driven into this meat grinder but I wouldn't volunteer to go fight for either of these totalitarian governments and that's the test, if I wouldn't kill & die for the cause, it is not worth supporting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Dougie93 said: I just don't have a dog in this fight it does seem like the media fabricates Russia hoax becoming a self fulfilling prospect with Vladimir Goldstein believing his own press releases I only sympathize with the civilians and front line soldiers including the poor Russian conscripts being driven into this meat grinder but I wouldn't volunteer to go fight for either of these totalitarian governments and that's the test, if I wouldn't kill & die for the cause, it is not worth supporting Those US truckers should deck-out in Ukrainian flags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Those US truckers should deck-out in Ukrainian flags. yeah but the trucker type protests are not going away even Emmanuel Goldstein cannot tamp down the desperation of an inflation crisis Jimmy Carter knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 Just now, Dougie93 said: yeah but the trucker type protests are not going away even Emmanuel Goldstein cannot tamp down the desperation of an inflation crisis Jimmy Carter knows The plan is to say US truckers support Putin, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 7 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: The plan is to say US truckers support Putin, of course. the common theme to all three tyrants Biden, Trudeau & Putin tired rhetoric which isn't selling anymore followed by massive overreach which gets them in way over their heads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: the common theme to all three tyrants Biden, Trudeau & Putin tired rhetoric which isn't selling anymore followed by massive overreach which gets them in way over their heads I think one thing they weren't counting on was the extensive use of good ol' citizen's band radio. But we'll see. Like I've mentioned, the truckers are a wild card as are the National Guard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 Just now, DogOnPorch said: I think one thing they weren't counting on was the extensive use of good ol' citizen's band radio. But we'll see. Like I've mentioned, the truckers are a wild card as are the National Guard. things are only going to get hotter as we go on both sides of the 49th because they can't sustain net negative interest rates anymore, inflation is out of control but you got 33% of Canadians on the verge of bankruptcy already with the debt being carried and real estate, which is about to go underwater, is the only thing propping the economy up so the ranks of the truckers is only going to grow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 Both the truckers and the *war are part of the same theater presentation. All the world's a stage...and we're merely players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 Let's not forget our dear virus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 24 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Both the truckers and the *war are part of the same theater presentation. All the world's a stage...and we're merely players. Joe Biden botches the withdrawal in Afghanistan not even six months later, the Russians make their move collapse of the American Hegemony is pretty much the story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: Joe Biden botches the withdrawal in Afghanistan not even six months later, the Russians make their move collapse of the American Hegemony is pretty much the story Intentionally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Intentionally. of course, Communism is a religion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-TSS- Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 Putin probably believed in Blitzkrieg. An invasion on Thursday and a victory-parade in Kiev on Sunday. Some sort of condemnation from other countries but soon it would be forgotten. Didn't quite work that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 this war is not working in favour of the tyrants here at home the tyrants here thought what Putin thought, that this would be a walkover for the Russians but now the Ukrainians are showing the whole world, that Putin can be stopped and that is starting to blowback against the tyrants here, Biden & Trudeau Biblical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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