Trucker's Convoy

[West]

34 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

You don't know many judges, do you. My neighbour was appointed to the bench. After that, he was forbidden to vote, have any political participation and had to be impartial. That is the rule in Canada. It works very well.

Lol.. did your neighbor ever run for political office, lose, get appointed judge, then oversee a case where the defense was protesting their party's policies? 

What about get appointed over a sham house hearing for damage control after the party that he staffed invoked an extreme "Emergencies Act" with lies about police forces asking for assistance? The only reason Liberals ended it was to save themselves the embarrassment of the senate striking it down.

This country's legal system is in trouble. The Liberals don't even have to hide it because folks are willing to accept it because "anti vaxxers bad"

For a guy like Trudeau making a stink about people not wanting to see babies murdered in the womb he sure does love to control your body

Edited June 29, 2022 by West

[WestCanMan]

22 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

You don't know many judges, do you. My neighbour was appointed to the bench. After that, he was forbidden to vote, have any political participation and had to be impartial. That is the rule in Canada. It works very well.

You don't know how the justice system in Canada works, do you QM85?

The PM will just replace the AG if the AG doesn't do his bidding. How does a judge ever get promoted to federal court if they run afoul of the PM/AG? 

The PM controls the RCMP - they beat down reporters who the PM doesn't like if they get too close to something that they're not supposed to report on, and he shuts down investigations into his own misconduct. And they beat up people who protested against the PM's human rights violations after they had surrendered on their knees. We don't even have legitimate cops in this country anymore. It's a joke. And you're acting like a judges ability to vote is someow proof that we don't live in a Canana Republic?

The PM controls the media, what do you think happens when a small-time judge goes against the Supreme Leader? The man who can freeze bank accounts and force millions of people to take a dangerous pseudovax? 

[WestCanMan]

1 minute ago, West said:

Lol.. did your neighbor ever run for political office, lose, get appointed judge, then oversee a case where the defense was protesting their party's policies? 

What about get appointed over a sham house hearing for damage control after the party that he staffed invoked an extreme "Emergencies Act" with lies about police forces asking for assistance? 

This country's legal system is in trouble.

These are children with their heads in the sand. They don't understand the difference between lawful, peaceful protests and violent riots - they only see those things through the prism of their political ideology. 

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Man, get with reality. She is charged with mischief and several other existing minor infractions and will probably get off but in the meantime she is under bail restrictions.

She jeopardized her bail conditions and is going to pay for that. Stupid people do stupid things and she is a perfect example of stupid.

Making her a martyr only demonstrates that stupid follow stupid.

You have a post to reply to up at the top of the previous page... One which you can't just slough off with some whining about Trump. 

Are you a man or a mouse? Squeak up. 

Edited June 29, 2022 by WestCanMan

[West]

13 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

You don't know how the justice system in Canada works, do you QM85?

The PM will just replace the AG if the AG doesn't do his bidding. How does a judge ever get promoted to federal court if they run afoul of the PM/AG? 

The PM controls the RCMP - they beat down reporters who the PM doesn't like if they get too close to something that they're not supposed to report on, and he shuts down investigations into his own misconduct. And they beat up people who protested against the PM's human rights violations after they had surrendered on their knees. We don't even have legitimate cops in this country anymore. It's a joke. And you're acting like a judges ability to vote is someow proof that we don't live in a Canana Republic?

The PM controls the media, what do you think happens when a small-time judge goes against the Supreme Leader? The man who can freeze bank accounts and force millions of people to take a dangerous pseudovax? 

The pseudovax was to weed out all the cops who would be non-compliant with the orders of the Prime Minister. All tyrants do the same.

They had to bring in new police chiefs likely because the old ones wanted nothing to do with it  

Edited June 29, 2022 by West

[West]

10 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

These are children with their heads in the sand. They don't understand the difference between lawful, peaceful protests and violent riots - they only see those things through the prism of their political ideology. 

Good is evil, evil is good to these folks. 

[Queenmandy85]

24 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Can you explain to me how Tamara Lich is guilty of more than the leader of BLM?

What leader of Black Lives matter are you talking about. Where was this $10 billion damage done. Montreal? Vancouver? Toronto? I don't know what you are talking about.

[West]

26 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Can you explain to me how Tamara Lich is guilty of more than the leader of BLM?

• (A) How much property was destroyed by BLM protests vs Freedom Convoy? $10,000,000,000.00+ vs $0.00
• (B) Basically a lesser version of (A). Again, $10,000,000,000.00+ vs less than $0.00.
• (C) Obstructs, interrupts or interferes with the lawful use, enjoyment or operation of property... Obstrction was the very least of the damage caused by BLM, it's not even a consideration in the damage estimates, but it would still be far more than what was caused by the Freedom Convoy, even if you include the blocking of the Ambassador Bridge. BLM overran a police station and held it for weeks, claimed sovereignty over part of Seattle for 3 weeks and murdered a child there, laid siege to a federal building in Portland for 100 days, attacked the WH and lit the adjacent church on fire, businesses entire downtown areas were closed and boarded up for months on end although that didn't prevent them from being looted & burned down. 
• (D) obstructs, interrupts or interferes with any person in the lawful use, enjoyment or operation of property - LOL. Does killing people count as interfering with the lawful use of their property? Does assaulting people and customers at their businesses count? Does burning down their business count? It sounds like BLM was guilty of far more than mischief. 

 

So tell me QM85, if Tamara Lich isn't a political prisoner then why is she facing such severe (by your own account) charges compared to the BLM leader, who was guilty of far more? To say " far more by several orders of magnitude" is an understatement - it's a division by zero equation.  

We both know that it's because leftists supported the BLM protests, they even pushed the false narratives that kept the protests going... In two instances they even withheld video evidence that would have diminished the rioting. So this is clearly a case of allowing extremely illegal riots which supported a racially divisive leftist cause, and punishing a legitimate & peaceful protest which was about protecting the most basic freedoms of Canadian adults and children. 

If it's not a political issue, then... if the Freedom Convoy killed some people, assaulted thousands of civilians and cops, burned down cities, claimed sovereignty over a few city blocks, had some bogus "Freedom Police" murder a child and then clear the crime scene of evidence, and they had an angry mob trying to attack the PM in his own residence, would Tamara have gotten off without any charges? Did the BLM leader just get away with it because the DOJ in the US was afraid to prosecute her for her obvious crimes? Should Freedom Convoy v 2.0 include a massive swath of death and destruction in order to be considered lawful? 

They ran an 85 year old lady over with a horse. 

[West]

Just now, Queenmandy85 said:

What leader of Black Lives matter are you talking about. Where was this $10 billion damage done. Montreal? Vancouver? Toronto? I don't know what you are talking about.

What about Trudeau who violated Covid mandates by marching with BLM? Why wasn't he fined like people who protested the mandates? 

Is it because he had an acceptable view and that's now what we base enforcement on? 

Police and health officials can trample on the criminal code to disrupt a religious gathering to check to ensure everyone's wearing the face diaper. And we are to be okay with the type of behavior you find in communist dictatorships.. don't say anything.. allow it to happen or you'll be abused by a "justice" system. 

Justice for who? The tyrants making the laws?

[Queenmandy85]

15 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

The PM will just replace the AG if the AG doesn't do his bidding. How does a judge ever get promoted to federal court if they run afoul of the PM/AG? 

 SNCdid not get the  deferred prosecution they were asking for. Justice was served, but this has nothing to do with the occupation of Ottawa. 

[Queenmandy85]

3 minutes ago, West said:

They ran an 85 year old lady over with a horse. 

She failed to comply with the lawful order of a Peace Officer to move and put herself in the path of a horse. It was her own choice.

[Queenmandy85]

3 minutes ago, West said:

What about Trudeau who violated Covid mandates by marching with BLM? Why wasn't he fined like people who protested the mandates? 

Is it because he had an acceptable view and that's now what we base enforcement on? 

Police and health officials can trample on the criminal code to disrupt a religious gathering to check to ensure everyone's wearing the face diaper. And we are to be okay with the type of behavior you find in communist dictatorships.. don't say anything.. allow it to happen or you'll be abused by a "justice" system. 

Justice for who? The tyrants making the laws?

You failed to answer the question.

 

3 minutes ago, West said:

Where was this $10 billion damage done. Montreal? Vancouver? Toronto? I don't know what you are talking about.

 

[West]

Just now, Queenmandy85 said:

She failed to comply with the lawful order of a Peace Officer to move and put herself in the path of a horse. It was her own choice.

You are serious? She was on a scooter with mobility issues. 

[West]

1 minute ago, Queenmandy85 said:

You failed to answer the question.

 

 

I never said that.. 

[Queenmandy85]

34 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

BLM overran a police station and held it for weeks, claimed sovereignty over part of Seattle for 3 weeks

You need to study geography. Seattle is an American city. It has nothing to do with Canada. Although, a lot of Ms. Lich's fellow occupiers were also confused about who's country this is, judging by all the American flags. 

[Queenmandy85]

4 minutes ago, West said:

You are serious? She was on a scooter with mobility issues. 

Are you saying she was forced to enter an area where the Police had ordered the occupiers to leave?

[dialamah]

9 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

She failed to comply with the lawful order of a Peace Officer to move and put herself in the path of a horse. It was her own choice.

She was 49, but never let it be said that facts should get in the way of extreme partianship.

[West]

4 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Are you saying she was forced to enter an area where the Police had ordered the occupiers to leave?

Occupiers eh . 

Trudeau doesn't like your views, can call your protest "illegal" then have his henchman run you over with a horse if you don't comply. 

How convenient it must be to be tyrant when the leftists will enforce illegal orders. 

Edited June 29, 2022 by West

[Queenmandy85]

9 minutes ago, West said:

I never said that.. 

Sorry, that was meant for WestCanMan.

[West]

Just now, Queenmandy85 said:

Sorry, that was meant for WestCanMan.

Now are you going to answer why law enforcement are engaging in selective enforcement based on approved views and why they are allowed to violate the criminal code by harassing Christians exercising their right to participate in a religious ceremony?

[Queenmandy85]

2 minutes ago, West said:

Occupiers eh . 

Trudeau doesn't like your views, can call your protest "illegal" then have his henchman run you over with a horse if you don't comply

That is insulting. Peace officers are not "henchmen" and there is a constant flow of protests in Ottawa that I am sure the Prime Minister disagrees with. As a supporter of the Progressive Conservative party of Canada, and Jean Charest, I am sure the Prime Minister doesn't like my views, but I follow the law. Also, I am not stupid enough to stand in front of a horse after having been ordered to leave the area. I might not be the sharpest knife in the drawer but I'm not that stupid.

[West]

4 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

That is insulting. Peace officers are not "henchmen" and there is a constant flow of protests in Ottawa that I am sure the Prime Minister disagrees with. As a supporter of the Progressive Conservative party of Canada, and Jean Charest, I am sure the Prime Minister doesn't like my views, but I follow the law. Also, I am not stupid enough to stand in front of a horse after having been ordered to leave the area. I might not be the sharpest knife in the drawer but I'm not that stupid.

I don't care if you are insulted, it's the truth. 

How often do politicians make up fake allegations against protesters then use that to run people over with horses? 

We had the man baby fake covid then hurl insults from behind a computer screen. Guys pathetic as are those who enforced his bs. 

The police should be damn ashamed of how they handled themselves. They don't get a pass... "just following orders" isn't good enough.

Edited June 29, 2022 by West

[Queenmandy85]

14 minutes ago, West said:

Now are you going to answer why law enforcement are engaging in selective enforcement based on approved views and why they are allowed to violate the criminal code by harassing Christians exercising their right to participate in a religious ceremony?

If it is the case of a Pastor in Alberta, he was deliberately violatinglating Public Health Orders. The Christian churches, and the Hindu, Sikh, Jewish, and Islamic temples all complied. Religious services were held virtually. God is currently managing more than 27 trillion solar systems just in our location of the Universe. I hardly think It would consider Itsself with whether adherents meet in person or virtually, but if It did, It would want them to be safe.

At the time, religious gatherings were sources of super spreader events that resulted in several deaths across the country. Public Health Orders are laws. 

[Zeitgeist]

5 hours ago, Boges said:

OK, go the semantics route. Associating with other "Freedom Convoyers" directly relates to the crime she's charged for.

It's like telling a person charged with pedophilia not to be close to any place children congregate or use the internet. 

Are you comparing Freedom Convoy protesters to pedophiles?   These protesters weren’t violent and didn’t threaten violence.  Total knee jerk reaction from our cowardly quasi-communist totalitarian ideologues across the system, a place where a judge who is a former Liberal candidate sentences political opponents.  So weak.

Edited June 29, 2022 by Zeitgeist

[Queenmandy85]

8 minutes ago, West said:

1. I don't care if you are insulted, it's the truth. 

2. How often do politicians make up fake allegations against protesters then use that to run people over with horses? 

3. We had the man baby fake covid then hurl insults from behind a computer screen. Guys pathetic as are those who enforced his bs. 

4. The police should be damn ashamed of how they handled themselves. They don't get a pass... "just following orders" isn't good enough.

1. You are incorrect.

2. Well, once. It was the Winnipeg general strike in 1919 when the strikers were suspected of being led by communists. Pretty much like the occupiers in Ottawa.

3. You hate Trudeau. Yes, we all know that. 

4. I watched the process and was impressed with the way they did it. It was a textbook exersise with the absolute minimum conflict. They were executing an order from the Court. The Court acted on evidence by the Crown.