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The description of the book alerts us that there will be lots of scare-mongering and catering to the reader who is panicked over nothing at all, and willing to spend ~12$ to feel better.

Anybody who thinks that discussing oppression is terrifying should review how democracy supplanted monarchy in the first place.

 

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I'm not sure anyone can stop this woke insanity now. It's everywhere and we are being bombarded with it. Anything and everything is racist apparently. Kamala Harris claims something about the dispersion of trees is racist. Mayor Pete claims roads are racist.

It's way beyond discussing oppression, it's about laying a permanent guilt trip on white people. The vast majority of white people have nothing to do with the sins of the past which were admittedly terrible.

This woke mindset is actually like a new religion and a fanatical one at that. Very profitable too. Lot's of money to be made by stirring the pot.

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2 hours ago, ironstone said:

There are nuts on both sides to be fair. But if  we compare which side has more crazies, it's not even close. Hands down it's you guys on the left.

The fact that you are calling me (I assume) 'left' shows that you're on the fringe.  

The 'left' should rightly be categorized as those who would seize capital and the means of production to redistribute to workers.  The centre is really just making the status quo and the new left is all identity politics.

If you don't identify with the main two parties AT ALL you might be a fringe-neck...

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2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

The fact that you are calling me (I assume) 'left' shows that you're on the fringe.  

The 'left' should rightly be categorized as those who would seize capital and the means of production to redistribute to workers. 

The fact you believe what you're saying in that second paragraph shows you are a victim of the shift in the Overton window.

What you describe there is now and should always be the far left. Not just left.

The woke left is also shifting cultural norms and that might be even more heinous. And those you call "centre" are deceiving themselves into believing they haven't been affected and haven't been shifted or are shifting across the new societal lines.

Lefty. ;)

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33 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

1. The fact you believe what you're saying in that second paragraph shows you are a victim of the shift in the Overton window.

2. What you describe there is now and should always be the far left. Not just left.

3. And those you call "centre" are deceiving themselves into believing they haven't been affected and haven't been shifted or are shifting across the new societal lines.

1. This is what Communism is FYI.
2. The NDP - are they far left ?  
3. The centre may be affected, but they don't care enough to be obsessed with 'wokism'.  If I have to call somebody 'them' in the workplace, well... (shrug)

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If you want to get technical Socialism is also controlling the means of production. That's also far left. That's where it starts. Or at least it used to be. The general difference seems to be how you get there. Communism is sudden and revolutionary. Socialism is gradual or if you prefer...Progressive.

The NDP are still on the journey. Are they "far left" yet? Farther than they were but not as far as they'd like to be, I think. 

The center are gullibles, available to the left now as the line between right and left shifts. Apparently they still think they're in the centre though.

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14 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

1. Or at least it used to be.  

2. The NDP are still on the journey. Are they "far left" yet? Farther than they were but not as far as they'd like to be, I think. 

3. The center are gullibles, available to the left now as the line between right and left shifts. Apparently they still think they're in the centre though.

1. Bingo.
2. No... they are not farther than they were.  Everything is going right - as per your "used to be" comment in #1
3. All except the right (actually the far right) are not sensible.  Thank God for you and God damn me...

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1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

No... they are not farther than they were.  Everything is going right - as per your "used to be" comment in #1

Government used to be just about politics, but now is also about, maybe even mostly about, transforming culture. I don't recall giving my vote on that.

So maybe they are farther, or even further, but in either case NDP and Liberals would love to take up the woke vote. Wokeism is just another teenage fad in Canada. Something we see on US TV. Hey look everybody, let's be cool too.

And that's about the depth of it. It has about as much societal value as Mr. Trudeau's hair styles.

It's like, taking down the statues in the park. Meanwhile we still got natives living in tents there, as well as bus stops and store doorways.

Oh well, at least they don't have to look at a statue of Sir John anymore, while sleeping on concrete.

And smug white leftists go home, feeling good about themselves. Upstanding citizens. Woke.

< Pat self on shoulder >

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11 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

Government used to be just about politics, but now is also about, maybe even mostly about, transforming culture. I don't recall giving my vote on that.

Me neither.

11 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

So maybe they are farther, or even further, but in either case NDP and Liberals would love to take up the woke vote. Wokeism is just another teenage fad in Canada. Something we see on US TV. Hey look everybody, let's be cool too.

I say we take it out of the political realm so we can focus on more important things than whether the Harry Potter writer is a bad lady or no.

11 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

And that's about the depth of it. It has about as much societal value as Mr. Trudeau's hair styles.

It's like, taking down the statues in the park. Meanwhile we still got natives living in tents there, as well as bus stops and store doorways.

Oh well, at least they don't have to look at a statue of Sir John anymore, while sleeping on concrete.

And smug white leftists go home, feeling good about themselves. Upstanding citizens. Woke.

< Pat self on shoulder >

That's why such people aren't real leftists - they're satisfied with discussing symbology.  It's the most lazy politics there is.

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2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Bingo.
2. No... they are not farther than they were.  Everything is going right - as per your "used to be" comment in #1
3. All except the right (actually the far right) are not sensible.  Thank God for you and God damn me...

Everything you say there is incorrect. Unfortunately there is no way to convince you. You're too far gone. Luckily it doesn't really matter. Good luck with it, I guess.

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4 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

The 'left' should rightly be categorized as those who would seize capital and the means of production to redistribute to workers. 

Universal living wage, CRB are even more radical ideas than this.

The redistribution part was always a lie anyway, in so far as it was not done equally. In USSR they lived like peasants. But they were peasants with nuclear reactors and ICBM's. A rather haphazard combo, as it were.

And now Covid regulations allow governments to "seize the means of production", where businesses are not allowed to open and people cannot obtain employment, unless they follow the new health directives. This level of control is all-encompassing, worldwide, and put in place overnight.

It too is politicized, in that left-leaning governments implement more far-reaching controls. Meanwhile the more right-leaning governments are implementing laws to prevent the use of such controls.

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Actually that wasn't me who said that. That was Michael.

Seizing the means of Production is Communism. Gradually acquiring it is Socialism. Either way it ends in totalitarianism and is far left. Not too long ago we knew this. It was mainstream, common knowledge. 

Now Michael tells us having this knowledge is far right and he seems to think the Overton window has shifted right not left. This is how I know he's not in the center. That's what the left does now. Tell you left is right, up is down, war is peace, equity is equality, servitude is liberty. When you start doing that you're a leftist. The left has shifted and absorbed him.

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The Marxist NDP like to cloak their ideology in care and compassion for the less privileged or those below the poverty line, whatever that is.  They promise every kind of government aid such as pharma care, dental care, housing for all, mental care, etc. etc.  Whatever demand there is somewhere, they promise to deliver it.  The thing about all this that most people don't realize this is just a stepping stone to a Marxist dictatorship.  In order to set up a system that provides cradle to grave care for every single person, at some point the state must take over private industry and private ownership must be taken over by government.  That is the theory.  But it has never worked in the world.  Socialism (or Marxism if you wish) has been tried before but always failed because it is totally against human nature.  It is impossible to control every single individual to make them do what the Marxist system wants.  China has been trying this for decades ever since the Communist revolution in 1949.  They had the Cultural Revolution and the Great Leap Forward around the 1960s and 70s.  But all they achieved was starvation for millions of people and the revolution itself killed tens of millions.  They eliminated anyone who looked like they might question anything about the revolution or new system.  It required an ongoing cleansing from society of all those who believed in any kind of human rights or individual rights.  This is the direction that many in our society are leaning without having a clue what it all means.

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