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53 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

"Jews didn't die... they are evil and deserving of extermination... the Nazis were right !" not barbaric ? Ok then... 

also barbaric

but less barbaric than the free speech haters

I do not like what they have to say

but they have every right to deny the holocaust and hate on jews

saying mean things > taking away rights

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2 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

also barbaric

but less barbaric than the free speech haters

Freedom of speech is a principle that supports the freedom of an individual or a community to articulate their opinions and ideas without fear of retaliation, censorship, or legal sanction.  

 

The problem with hate speech is that it has no real purpose other than genocide.  

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2 minutes ago, Cannucklehead said:

Freedom of speech is a principle that supports the freedom of an individual or a community to articulate their opinions and ideas without fear of retaliation, censorship, or legal sanction.  

 

The problem with hate speech is that it has no real purpose other than genocide.  

hate speech should not be banned just because there is "no purpose for it" or you not liking the purpose for it

it should be protected under the same justification in your first paragraph

Edited by Yzermandius19
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4 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

hate speech should not be banned just because there is "no purpose for it" or you not liking the purpose for it

it should be protected under the same justification in your first paragraph

You are absolutely correct mein führer.  ?

Posted
5 hours ago, Cannucklehead said:

Freedom of speech is a principle that supports the freedom of an individual or a community to articulate their opinions and ideas without fear of retaliation, censorship, or legal sanction.  

 

The problem with hate speech is that it has no real purpose other than genocide.  

Genocide?  People can hate people without trying to kill them.  The act of killing or genocide is half the equation of a crime.  Of course hate is bad and I understand why people want to legislate against hate, but you can’t make people love or hate each other.  

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1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said:

Genocide?  People can hate people without trying to kill them.  The act of killing or genocide is half the equation of a crime.  Of course hate is bad and I understand why people want to legislate against hate, but you can’t make people love or hate each other.  

True, people will hate or love regardless of legislation.  Hate speech legislation isn't about controlling people's feelings; people can even express those feelings in private conversations.

In Canada, it's when expressions of hate become public rather than private that they may be penalized.  So if Joe Blow bitches to his wife and buddies that rag heads are scum, barbaric, immoral, criminals and unfit for Canadian society, that's one thing.  But putting out a pamphlet, starting a webpage or newsletter, leaving graffiti on a temple, posting on FB, Twitter etc or yelling it to a brown person on the street - that could be classified as hate speech by our current legislation. 

In Canada, it's not easy to prove hate speech because the government/courts do not want to infringe on people's freedom of expression.  

 

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29 minutes ago, dialamah said:

True, people will hate or love regardless of legislation.  Hate speech legislation isn't about controlling people's feelings; people can even express those feelings in private conversations.

In Canada, it's when expressions of hate become public rather than private that they may be penalized.  So if Joe Blow bitches to his wife and buddies that rag heads are scum, barbaric, immoral, criminals and unfit for Canadian society, that's one thing.  But putting out a pamphlet, starting a webpage or newsletter, leaving graffiti on a temple, posting on FB, Twitter etc or yelling it to a brown person on the street - that could be classified as hate speech by our current legislation. 

In Canada, it's not easy to prove hate speech because the government/courts do not want to infringe on people's freedom of expression.  

In Canada, tons of things are considered hate speech that aren't

government is all too eager to infringe on the rights of Canadians

the current legislation sucks

the government is not good at this job

yet another reason it shouldn't be it's job

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