Happy Canada Day to all Canadians.

[blackbird]

11 minutes ago, Antichrist said:

I agree that their are pedophiles that are not religious....but religion paints its self as the good and moral.....when in fact it is the opposite

Dedicated to the Eradication of Religion

You paint all religion the same as Romanism.  The fact is the RC religion is by far the biggest in the west with around a billion members, but it is not Biblical Christianity.  It does not believe the basic teachings of the Bible.  That is why we had the Reformation 500 years ago and a chunk broke away from the Roman church.  They have by far the largest number of pedophiles.  While there may be a lot of pedophiles within the celibate priesthood, I do not believe there are more pedophiles within the ordinary rank and file membership of the Catholic church than outside the church in mainstream society.  You are lying when you imply that there are a lot of pedophiles within all churches.  Bible believers are not involved in all those problems, but are a much smaller group in the world as a whole.  

As for your claim of being dedicated to the eradication of religion,  religion is a basic human right that will never be eradicated.  It is part of the right to live and believe what one wishes.  Communists tried that and killed tens of millions of people.  China has been trying without a lot of success to eliminate religion (except worship of the Communist Party and it's leaders, which is the real religion of Communists).

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[Antichrist]

21 minutes ago, blackbird said:

You paint all religion the same as Romanism.  The fact is the RC religion is by far the biggest in the west with around a billion members, but it is not Biblical Christianity.  It does not believe the basic teachings of the Bible.  That is why we had the Reformation 500 years ago and a chunk broke away from the Roman church.  They have by far the largest number of pedophiles.  While there may be a lot of pedophiles within the celibate priesthood, I do not believe there are more pedophiles within the ordinary rank and file membership of the Catholic church than outside the church in mainstream society.  You are lying when you imply that there are a lot of pedophiles within all churches.  Bible believers are not involved in all those problems, but are a much smaller group in the world as a whole.  

As for your claim of being dedicated to the eradication of religion,  religion is a basic human right that will never be eradicated.  It is part of the right to live and believe what one wishes.  Communists tried that and killed tens of millions of people.  China has been trying without a lot of success to eliminate religion (except worship of the Communist Party and it's leaders, which is the real religion of Communists).

 

32 minutes ago, blackbird said:

You paint all religion the same as Romanism.  The fact is the RC religion is by far the biggest in the west with around a billion members, but it is not Biblical Christianity.  It does not believe the basic teachings of the Bible.  That is why we had the Reformation 500 years ago and a chunk broke away from the Roman church.  They have by far the largest number of pedophiles.  While there may be a lot of pedophiles within the celibate priesthood, I do not believe there are more pedophiles within the ordinary rank and file membership of the Catholic church than outside the church in mainstream society.  You are lying when you imply that there are a lot of pedophiles within all churches.  Bible believers are not involved in all those problems, but are a much smaller group in the world as a whole.  

As for your claim of being dedicated to the eradication of religion,  religion is a basic human right that will never be eradicated.  It is part of the right to live and believe what one wishes.  Communists tried that and killed tens of millions of people.  China has been trying without a lot of success to eliminate religion (except worship of the Communist Party and it's leaders, which is the real religion of Communists).

 Eradication of Religion will come by the hands of science  when humans wont need to pray for healing as science can fix gods mistakes...with genetic engineering...correcting the dna sequences that cause parkinson's, , cancers, blindness, sickle cell, muscular dystrophy  

It is science that is finding the answers through hard work...not some mighty creator Where is your almighty god when covid was reeking havoc   prayers did nothing....but science did

Proving once again  god is fake 

[blackbird]

7 minutes ago, Antichrist said:

 

 Eradication of Religion will come by the hands of science  when humans wont need to pray for healing as science can fix gods mistakes...with genetic engineering...correcting the dna sequences that cause parkinson's, , cancers, blindness, sickle cell, muscular dystrophy  

It is science that is finding the answers through hard work...not some mighty creator Where is your almighty god when covid was reeking havoc   prayers did nothing....but science did

Proving once again  god is fake 

I may have already explained why the world has diseases, wars, crime, sickness, and sin.  It is because of the fall of man who rebelled against God in the garden of Eden. See Genesis re Adam and Eve.   Before the fall of man, it was a perfect world.  But man rebelled and brought it all on himself. That is why there is Covid, and other diseases.  This will all end when Christ returns to create a new earth and rule over the earth as per the book of Revelation.  In the meantime, the only way to be forgiven and receive a new nature is to believe in Jesus Christ and be born again.  Otherwise be condemned to hell for eternity as the Bible teaches.

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[Guest]

26 minutes ago, blackbird said:

I may have already explained why the world has diseases, wars, crime, sickness, and sin. 

You did.  Nobody bought it.

[Antichrist]

2 hours ago, blackbird said:

I may have already explained why the world has diseases, wars, crime, sickness, and sin.  It is because of the fall of man who rebelled against God in the garden of Eden. See Genesis re Adam and Eve.   Before the fall of man, it was a perfect world.  But man rebelled and brought it all on himself. That is why there is Covid, and other diseases.  This will all end when Christ returns to create a new earth and rule over the earth as per the book of Revelation.  In the meantime, the only way to be forgiven and receive a new nature is to believe in Jesus Christ and be born again.  Otherwise be condemned to hell for eternity as the Bible teaches.

Thats one of my favorites especially the talking snake  ......what a load of shit just because they were tricked into eating an  an apple by wait....wait....a  phuking talking snake     

 

[Antichrist]

2 hours ago, blackbird said:

I may have already explained why the world has diseases, wars, crime, sickness, and sin.  It is because of the fall of man who rebelled against God in the garden of Eden. See Genesis re Adam and Eve.   Before the fall of man, it was a perfect world.  But man rebelled and brought it all on himself. That is why there is Covid, and other diseases.  This will all end when Christ returns to create a new earth and rule over the earth as per the book of Revelation.  In the meantime, the only way to be forgiven and receive a new nature is to believe in Jesus Christ and be born again.  Otherwise be condemned to hell for eternity as the Bible teaches.

somehow eating an apple is way more serious than sticking priests peckers in little boys....

Dedicated to the Eradication of Religion

 

[cougar]

22 hours ago, blackbird said:

What makes aboriginals so special that they cannot assimilate into society like everyone else? 

The fact they were here first.  You should have assimilated to them; asked them for permission to come, learnt their language, swore allegiance to their hereditary chiefs, lived by their traditions and cultural habits, not the other way round.

[Zeitgeist]

4 hours ago, Antichrist said:

Religion will be eradicated....as we evolve and humans become educated they wont need religion to tell them how to live Only the weak minded cling to religion

You think that man and his imperfect vision should be in the Holy of Holies.  V. Lenin, Mao, or some other dude becomes deified, desecrating the transcendent.  You have a limited notion of the lofty and sacred.  You’re a moral relativist.  All can be rationalized.  The Creator is reduced to the mundane.  People are reduced to numbers because there’s no soul or spiritual.  Materialism, absurdly, futility, nothingness... Anything goes in a universe devoid of meaning or purpose.  You create your own meaning.   I know that ground well and don’t have a problem with atheists who understand their ignorance, but your judgment of religious people is arrogant and unfounded.  You really don’t know what lies beyond.   No one does.  The religious person has faith.  You may not, but don’t expect respect from those who do if you don’t respect them.  Your comments are discriminatory and you should apologize.  

[Zeitgeist]

2 minutes ago, cougar said:

The fact they were here first.  You should have assimilated to them; asked them for permission to come, learnt their language, swore allegiance to their hereditary chiefs, lived by their traditions and cultural habits, not the other way round.

What nonsense.  So whoever has the oldest traceable bloodline in a place gets all?  People are people.   The Nazis preached a similar belief about the real Germans who could trace their roots back to the Aryans who settled there from India.   They called them the master race who deserved to lord over and even exterminate inferiors.  No race or ethnicity is better than any other and none deserves more than anyone else on the basis of ethnicity alone.  

[blackbird]

3 hours ago, bcsapper said:

You did.  Nobody bought it.

I've done my part and don't get paid if you "buy it".  

 

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[blackbird]

1 hour ago, Antichrist said:

somehow eating an apple is way more serious than sticking priests peckers in little boys....

Dedicated to the Eradication of Religion

 

Get your mind out of the gutter.

37 minutes ago, cougar said:

The fact they were here first.  You should have assimilated to them; asked them for permission to come, learnt their language, swore allegiance to their hereditary chiefs, lived by their traditions and cultural habits, not the other way round.

Sure.  Maybe learn how to do a little war dance and take a few scalps.

So some people should be superior to everyone else and we should all bow and become their slaves.  You are the biggest racist around here.

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[blackbird]

36 minutes ago, cougar said:

The fact they were here first.  You should have assimilated to them; asked them for permission to come, learnt their language, swore allegiance to their hereditary chiefs, lived by their traditions and cultural habits, not the other way round.

 

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[cougar]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

So some people should be superior to everyone else and we should all bow and become their slaves.  You are the biggest racist around here.

And who are those people?  The British Crown?

Let me ask you this, if I came into your house with a gun and told you what you can and cannot do and how to live your life from this point on, and moved into your main room and bedroom but pushed you and your kids down in the basement, because you have knives, bows and nothing else, how happy were you going to be?

Just saying....not that I am a First Nations person, or a great supporter of their habits, but now in our climate emergency caused by the same culture that invaded their lands, I am starting to think they would have been better off setting up their trap lines and fishing from their canoes than dying in the next forest fire or other climate related catastrophe.

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[cougar]

2 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

What nonsense.  So whoever has the oldest traceable bloodline in a place gets all?

Wait till China takes over your province and your home and tells you to learn Cantonese as this is now the official language of the province.  If you disagree, they take your kids and put them in a Chinese Residential school to properly learn the Chinese culture.

The bottom line is you and me came here from another continent.  Someone was already living on these lands.

 

[blackbird]

15 minutes ago, cougar said:

And who are those people?  The British Crown?

Let me ask you this, if I came into your house with a gun and told you what you can and cannot do and how to live your life from this point on, and moved into your main room and bedroom but pushed you and your kids down in the basement, because you have knives, bows and nothing else, how happy were you going to be?

Just saying....not that I am a First Nations person, or a great supporter of their habits, but now in our climate emergency caused by the same culture that invaded their lands, I am starting to think they would have been better off setting up their trap lines and fishing from their canoes than dying in the next forest fire or other climate related catastrophe.

No, the colonizers didn't bring any particular climate or cause any climate to happen.  The early settlers actually traded with aboriginals.  The big industry was fur trade and white man sold them guns and various things that they never had before.  Unfortunately they also sold them some fire water that caused a lot of problems.

 Climate has nothing to do with mankind.  The temperatures are determined by the radiation from the sun and amount of water vapour in the atmosphere.  There have always been periods of warmer weather and periods of colder weather.  That is a historical fact. 

The aboriginals benefited greatly from colonization.  Many of them drive pickup trucks, cars.  They own boats with gas engines and all the modern advances that white man gives them.  They own houses, drive snowmobiles, and ATVs.  They have medical care that they never had before.  They wear clothes bought in the stores.  They have televisions, computers, and smart phones.  I don't think they want to go back to living off the land and being hunter-gathers.

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[blackbird]

20 minutes ago, cougar said:

Wait till China takes over your province and your home and tells you to learn Cantonese as this is now the official language of the province.  If you disagree, they take your kids and put them in a Chinese Residential school to properly learn the Chinese culture.

The bottom line is you and me came here from another continent.  Someone was already living on these lands.

 

So what?  Mankind migrating from one place to a better place is the history of mankind.  Nobody has an exclusive claim to a large uninhabited area which is what most of Canada was.  Someone having an ancestor who hunted and gathered over a hundred or thousand square kilometers does not give anyone the right today to claim ownership of that land.  It is ludicrous but is how many left wingers think today.  They need to get educated about how the history of world was and is.

The history of the world is such that the strongest controls the land. That won't change.  An advanced civilization cannot hand control back to previous occupants.  That is not how the world works and never will.   There are bigger things in the world to worry about such as Russia, China,  and N. Korea who have nuclear weapons or are trying to get nuclear weapons (Iran).  The west better wake up because China has imperial ambitions to control much of world and they will if the west does not resist and keep them back.

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[Zeitgeist]

48 minutes ago, cougar said:

Wait till China takes over your province and your home and tells you to learn Cantonese as this is now the official language of the province.  If you disagree, they take your kids and put them in a Chinese Residential school to properly learn the Chinese culture.

The bottom line is you and me came here from another continent.  Someone was already living on these lands.

 

It’s not that simple.  Various Indigenous groups moved in and out of much of the country.  In Ontario the Ottawas pushed out the southern tribes.  What are now Six Nations pushed out the Hurons.  Anishnabe and Six Nations moved in and out of each other’s farming areas, though the farms lasted maybe six years before the soil was stripped of nutrients and the clans packed up and moved elsewhere.  For a long time settlers came without infringing on the traditional Indigenous lifestyles, and the exchanges helped both sides: guns for pelts, for example.  The colonial confrontation that you’re describing is a bit of a Hollywood charicature.   That’s not to say that there weren’t conflicts and disagreements over land, poor treaties or lack thereof, but it’s complicated.  There weren’t a lot of shoot-outs in Canada.  The settlers thought that they were offering all of the benefits of modern western civilization, including education, health, farming and manufacturing technology, etc.  The wide open unsettled territory gradually shrank with immigration, which is accelerating today.  The Indigenous lost and gained.  To pretend that the Indigenous of today are living as they did before contact serves no one.  Pretending that education and technology were destructive overall is disingenuous.  Yes the settlers educated according to their values, but having an education was considered far more progressive than the alternative, including for Indigenous.  Now, how it was done was another issue.  Much should have been better.  Again, this is a fairly recent critique about colonialism that people didn’t make more than about a half century ago.

Bringing China into this doesn’t help.  They do not treat those who don’t fall in line with mainstream society as well as we do.  Indigenous in Canada receive more money and benefits than any ethnic groups, considering that property, income, HST, and other taxes aren’t collected from status Indians or those who who claim status and work on the reserve.  Health, education, and much utility infrastructure are provided free by the federal government.

The Indian Act, the reserve system, and the idea of special status should all be revisited and reformed, but doing so would be highly contentious.  As long as it’s revenue neutral, Indigenous should decide on the reforms, but if more taxpayer money is asked, then the non-Indigenous must be involved in the changes.  That’s why economic self-reliance is so critical to self-government.  You can’t have one without the other.  Without paying taxes or making an economic contribution to the services on and servicing of their land, it’s hard to justify having Indigenous at the centre of decision making.  

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[blackbird]

1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said:

It’s not that simple.  Various Indigenous groups moved in and out of much of the country.  In Ontario the Ottawas pushed out the southern tribes.  What are now Six Nations pushed out the Hurons.  Anishnabe and Six Nations moved in and out of each other’s farming areas, though the farms lasted maybe six years before the soil was stripped of nutrients and the clans packed up and moved elsewhere.  For a long time settlers came without infringing on the traditional Indigenous lifestyles, and the exchanges helped both sides: guns for pelts, for example.  The colonial confrontation that you’re describing is a bit of a Hollywood charicature.   That’s not to say that there weren’t conflicts and disagreements over land, poor treaties or lack thereof, but it’s complicated.  There weren’t a lot of shoot-outs in Canada.  The settlers thought that they were offering all of the benefits of modern western civilization, including education, health, farming and manufacturing technology, etc.  The wide open unsettled territory gradually shrank with immigration, which is accelerating today.  The Indigenous lost and gained.  To pretend that the Indigenous of today are living as they did before contact serves no one.  Pretending that education and technology were destructive overall is disingenuous.  Yes the settlers educated according to their values, but having an education was considered far more progressive than the alternative, including for Indigenous.  Now, how it was done was another issue.  Much should have been better.  Again, this is a fairly recent critique about colonialism that people didn’t make more than about a half century ago.

Bringing China into this doesn’t help.  They do not treat those who don’t fall in line with mainstream society as well as we do.  Indigenous in Canada receive more money and benefits than any ethnic groups, considering that property, income, HST, and other taxes aren’t collected from status Indians or those who who claim status and work on the reserve.  Health, education, and much utility infrastructure are provided free by the federal government.

The Indian Act, the reserve system, and the idea of special status should all be revisited and reformed, but doing so would be highly contentious.  As long as it’s revenue neutral, Indigenous should decide on the reforms, but if more taxpayer money is asked, then the non-Indigenous must be involved in the changes.  That’s why economic self-reliance is so critical to self-government.  You can’t have one without the other.  Without paying taxes or making an economic contribution to the services on and servicing of their land, it’s hard to justify having Indigenous at the centre of decision making.  

Well said!  Strong evidence that it is far more complicated than most people realize.

[Antichrist]

11 hours ago, blackbird said:

Get your mind out of the gutter.

You cant handle the truth....your filthy cult is sexualy assulting children...what the hell is wrong with you predators'....one religion even sucks the penis of a child that has just been circumsized....be alot of priest are frothing at the mouth when they hear that....sick phuks

[Antichrist]

12 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

You think that man and his imperfect vision should be in the Holy of Holies.  V. Lenin, Mao, or some other dude becomes deified, desecrating the transcendent.  You have a limited notion of the lofty and sacred.  You’re a moral relativist.  All can be rationalized.  The Creator is reduced to the mundane.  People are reduced to numbers because there’s no soul or spiritual.  Materialism, absurdly, futility, nothingness... Anything goes in a universe devoid of meaning or purpose.  You create your own meaning.   I know that ground well and don’t have a problem with atheists who understand their ignorance, but your judgment of religious people is arrogant and unfounded.  You really don’t know what lies beyond.   No one does.  The religious person has faith.  You may not, but don’t expect respect from those who do if you don’t respect them.  Your comments are discriminatory and you should apologize.  

What is faith...its the  basis of your religion...since your religion has no evidence its based on faith ....how can you respect religion with the lies...giving false hope tele evangelists making millions from weak minded followers...the replica of noah's arc...a joke in itself...distorting science and you say apologize....GFY

 

 

[Zeitgeist]

37 minutes ago, Antichrist said:

What is faith...its the  basis of your religion...since your religion has no evidence its based on faith ....how can you respect religion with the lies...giving false hope tele evangelists making millions from weak minded followers...the replica of noah's arc...a joke in itself...distorting science and you say apologize....GFY

 

 

You’re rude and disrespectful.  Your comments don’t deserve a response, but I’ll give you this to think about, said during the crucifixion: “Have you no fear?”   You’re free to be an atheist, but you don’t have evidence for or against a higher authority, so don’t pretend to know more than you do and respect that other people have differing beliefs. Thinking you have all the answers without evidence is folly.  We only have to look at past dictatorships to see where that attitude leads.  I wouldn’t follow you.

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[Antichrist]

13 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

You’re rude and disrespectful.  Your comments don’t deserve a response, but I’ll give you this to think about, said during the crucifixion: “Have you no fear?”   You’re free to be an atheist, but you don’t have evidence for or against a higher authority, so don’t pretend to know more than you do and respect that other people have differing beliefs. Thinking you have all the answers without evidence is folly.  We only have to look at past dictatorships to see where that attitude leads.  I wouldn’t follow you.

You spew your beliefs' so they are fodder for rebuttal. remember i have hard evidence u have nada....faith a book of stories.

Science is real....religion is ignorance

OH today is Sunday..the priest and ministers pick their new alter boys.

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[Charles Anthony]

Folks, 

Stay on topic.  Avoid thread derailment. 

[CITIZEN_2015]

Please guys this thread is about the birth of best country in the world, Canada. It is about respect, equality, prosperity, love of family and neighbor, freedom and justice and respect and equality of women. 

[Yzermandius19]

19 hours ago, Antichrist said:

II am sorry you were brainwashed  by your parents at a young age....thats all you have known its not your fault you were made to believe in a lie.

I prey for you brother 

Im the wolf and your the lamb

my parents never pushed that on me

I used to be an atheist when I was young and stupid in fact