bush_cheney2004 Posted May 15, 2021 Report Share Posted May 15, 2021 Another interesting twist in Canada's covid-19 vaccine saga: Quote Maj.-Gen. Dany Fortin under military investigation, is no longer leading vaccine campaign The major-general leading Canada's vaccine logistics campaign at the Public Health Agency of Canada (PHAC) is stepping down under the cloud of a military misconduct investigation. The Department of National Defence issued a terse three-line statement late Friday, saying that Maj.-Gen. Dany Fortin is leaving his post and his future will be decided by the acting chief of the defence staff. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/fortin-military-investigation-removed-1.6027995 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted May 15, 2021 Report Share Posted May 15, 2021 10 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Another interesting twist in Canada's covid-19 vaccine saga: He’s probably being investigated because he didn’t fire all the men who tried to go out with military women. Even consensual sex has become a quasi-crime and women are deemed by the puritanical elements of the #metoo movement as incapable of saying no or making adult choices. Perhaps he heard about a misdeed but didn’t start the witch trial fast enough. No one is neutral in woke world. You’re either with the revolution or you’re a counter-revolutionary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted May 15, 2021 Report Share Posted May 15, 2021 3 hours ago, Zeitgeist said: He’s probably being investigated because he didn’t fire all the men who tried to go out with military women. Even consensual sex has become a quasi-crime and women are deemed by the puritanical elements of the #metoo movement as incapable of saying no or making adult choices. Perhaps he heard about a misdeed but didn’t start the witch trial fast enough. No one is neutral in woke world. You’re either with the revolution or you’re a counter-revolutionary. Senior ranks shouldn't become involved with those junior to them, consensual or not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted May 16, 2021 Report Share Posted May 16, 2021 7 hours ago, Aristides said: Senior ranks shouldn't become involved with those junior to them, consensual or not. No sure I agree with that. Adults should be able to have consensual relationships. What must not happen is that someone is advantaged because of it. So, a policy of ensuring that a more junior officer isn’t in the same unit or workplace makes sense, but if your junior-senior rule was applied across professions and workplaces, hundreds of thousands of Canadians would be in violation. Be realistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITIZEN_2015 Posted June 25, 2021 Report Share Posted June 25, 2021 (edited) Over 99% of covid related deaths in the US are among the unvaccinated people. https://www.khou.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/covid-deaths-unvaccinated/507-c075296b-dd37-4fe7-aa22-e91718797d33 Yes they had the freedom to choose and they exercised their freedom and now they paid with their lives. Yeah right don't make vaccination mandatory and be a walking virus or be killed by it. Edited June 25, 2021 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted June 25, 2021 Report Share Posted June 25, 2021 12 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: Over 99% of covid related deaths in the US are among the unvaccinated people. https://www.khou.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/covid-deaths-unvaccinated/507-c075296b-dd37-4fe7-aa22-e91718797d33 Yes they gad the freedom to choose and they exercised their freedom and now they paid with their lives. Yeah right don't make vaccination mandatory and be a walking virus or be killed by it. Yes that’s the price of freedom. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITIZEN_2015 Posted June 25, 2021 Report Share Posted June 25, 2021 25 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: Yes that’s the price of freedom. What about the freedom of the majority who also exercise their choice. They will remain susceptible to infection not to mention economic consequences like lockdowns and closures because a minority decided to pay the price of freedom. In a free society it is not only the minorities who have the rights. The majority have rights too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 (edited) On 6/25/2021 at 1:21 PM, CITIZEN_2015 said: What about the freedom of the majority who also exercise their choice. They will remain susceptible to infection not to mention economic consequences like lockdowns and closures because a minority decided to pay the price of freedom. In a free society it is not only the minorities who have the rights. The majority have rights too. the majority don't have rights to infringe on the minorities rights though the minority doesn't only have rights if the majority allows them to, not how it works Edited June 29, 2021 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITIZEN_2015 Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 16 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said: the majority don't have rights to infringe on the minorities rights though the minority doesn't only have rights if the majority allows them to, not how it works But you are saying that the minority do have the right to infringe on majority? Yes it is infringement of my right when I have to pay economic consequences and longer lockdowns and risk being sick or die from those walking viruses who for the reason of paranoia refuse to get vaccinated and hence be a carrier of the virus and walk with them in public places like malls and groceries where I have to go as well. I haven't the slightest idea what your second sentence is saying!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 On 5/15/2021 at 9:36 PM, Zeitgeist said: No sure I agree with that. Adults should be able to have consensual relationships. What must not happen is that someone is advantaged because of it. So, a policy of ensuring that a more junior officer isn’t in the same unit or workplace makes sense, but if your junior-senior rule was applied across professions and workplaces, hundreds of thousands of Canadians would be in violation. Be realistic. Believe it or not that is DND policy, a senior member can not have a relationship with a junior in their '"chain of command". and if they are married they try to separate them by different units.( so they are not deployed at the same time, in regards to kids and ensuring they will not be under ones command, or shown special treatment. ) It is realistic under combat conditions the chain of command can change very rapidly, one could go from Jr officer to Commanding officer in a few hours...Take a look at Beaumont Hamill and the RNFLD Regt. Now when you the CDS everyone is under his command. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted June 29, 2021 Report Share Posted June 29, 2021 3 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: But you are saying that the minority do have the right to infringe on majority? Yes it is infringement of my right when I have to pay economic consequences and longer lockdowns and risk being sick or die from those walking viruses who for the reason of paranoia refuse to get vaccinated and hence be a carrier of the virus and walk with them in public places like malls and groceries where I have to go as well. I haven't the slightest idea what your second sentence is saying!!!! Some times , Look at the LGBT community, and this 1000 different types of gender being forced on everyone. they are not the majority in this country, maybe in the "liberal party" but not in the country... if you have the countries ear you can change anything... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 (edited) On 6/25/2021 at 1:21 PM, CITIZEN_2015 said: What about the freedom of the majority who also exercise their choice. They will remain susceptible to infection not to mention economic consequences like lockdowns and closures because a minority decided to pay the price of freedom. In a free society it is not only the minorities who have the rights. The majority have rights too. The fully vaccinated are largely protected from serious illness. The vast majority of unvaccinated children are also unlikely to get seriously ill from C-19. If you’re worried about your unvaccinated under 12’s, they can wear masks, social distance, stay away from crowds, etc. If people who can have vaccines don’t want them, they can roll the dice on their own lives. That’s a personal choice and vaccine passports seem like a way to force people to comply with inoculations that are manufactured healthcare for which we don’t know the long term effects. Though I value vaccination and have been vaccinated, health passports seem like a violation of privacy and freedom. I just don’t think they’re necessary for reopening. I also don’t think we should return to mandatory restrictions once most of the population is fully vaccinated. We can’t thrive under such infringements on human freedom. Enough already. Edited June 30, 2021 by Zeitgeist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CITIZEN_2015 Posted June 30, 2021 Report Share Posted June 30, 2021 4 hours ago, Army Guy said: Some times , Look at the LGBT community, and this 1000 different types of gender being forced on everyone. they are not the majority in this country, maybe in the "liberal party" but not in the country... if you have the countries ear you can change anything... The LGBT live their own lives and don't endanger anyone else around them or infringe on anyone's right so it is not at all a similar example as there are no similarities to those who refuse vaccines out of paranoia and endanger the lives of anyone they come in contact with. They refuse to contribute to herd immunity to protect those who can't be vaccinated for different reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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