Yzermandius19 Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 (edited) many Canadians maintain the delusion that Canada can do something about China and that China will somehow care if Canada does something about them but clearly neither is true Canadians simply want to live in a world where they are vastly more important than they really are and refuse to let reality get in the way of that dream wishful thinking is a helluva drug Edited May 23, 2021 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said: many Canadians maintain the delusion that Canada can do something about China and that China will somehow care if Canada does something about them but clearly neither is true Canada simply cannot access any of the raw power that might be contained in this land the Confederation itself is structurally dysfunctional there really is no governance in Canada, it's basically just bribing entrenched interests to prop up the nabobs in Ottawa the emperor has no clothes and quite sure most Canadians realize whether they want to say openly on the internet is a another story, most Canadians stay silent, keep their heads down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 if you look at the Canadian National Shipbuilding Program, that is a metaphor for Canada writ large first of all the real purpose is not to actually build anything, it's just a mechanism for corporate welfare handouts then Canada aspires to build the state of the art Type 26 Surface Combatant but in fact Irving is incapable of fulfilling the contract, it's too big for them so you end up with a civilianized patrol boat armed with one machine gun instead Canada simply cannot compete with the real countries, fake countries don't have navies for a reason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 the most powerful weapon at Canada's disposal would be the Communications Security Establishment (CSE) that's like a mini NSA, a superpower like SIGINT / CYBER capability problem being for Canada that CSE doesn't really answer to Canada, CSE works for Fort Meade so again, fake countries don't have their own sovereign intelligence services. nor even their own foreign policy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 this brings us back to why Canada is dismantling its own military and national security agencies the political class here knows, they don't really work for Canada, they don't really answer to Canada the military, the intelligence services, the federal police, all answer to Washington above Ottawa so why spend money on assets which actually take their marching orders from the Americans ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 this how Canada is rendered into an American protectorate Canada's only foreign and national security policy is to render unto American Ceasar that's why Trump is so bothersome to Canadians, because he openly stated the truth of that none the less, you try to claw back what you can, you only render unto Caesar what is forced upon you brutally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 it's like why does the RCN only consist of twelve patrol frigates and nothing else ? no support ships, no amphibious capability, no mine countermeasures, just lightly armed frigates the reason is that the RCN has one job, send a frigate to join the American Carrier Strike Groups so it's not even really a navy at all, it's just an adjunct to the US Navy like auxiliaries in the Roman Legions, the Canadian Forces follow the American Emperor thus why Canadians have no interest in paying for this project Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 it's like back in the 80's when Canada flirted with buying SSN Fast Attack Submarines to go to the Arctic who actually put a stop to that ? it was the Americans, they have territorial disputes with Canada in the Arctic the Americans didn't want Canada up there asserting its sovereignty, so they told Ottawa to stand down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Yzermandius19 said: and everything to do with Canadians being morons who buy into foolish media propaganda I don't think that is the case, it's not a case of stupidity Canadians simply recognize that Ottawa is a fake government and Canada is a fake country what Ottawa says is irrelevant, and most of it is gibberish anyways Canada's fate is entirely in the hands of Washington, so paying attention to Washington is the imperative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: I don't think that is the case, it's not a case of stupidity Canadians simply recognize that Ottawa is a fake government and Canada is a fake country what Ottawa says is irrelevant, and most of it is gibberish anyways Canada's fate is entirely in the hands of Washington, so paying attention to Washington is the imperative and Canadians "paying attention" to Washington is basically them watching a biased media nuthug the Democrats and hate on Republicans and they drink up the kool-aid with great enthusiasm Edited May 23, 2021 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: and Canadians "paying attention" is basically them watching a biased media nuthug the Democrats and hate on Republicans and they drink up the kool-aid with great enthusiasm the media is like a drug, it's meant to paralyze you, paralysis by analysis it's a very powerful and sophisticated mechanism, I don't castigate people for falling prey to it none the less, the schism all came to a head in 1962 with the Cuban Missile Crisis when the Canadian military in essence mutinied against the Canadian government Diefenbaker tried to opt out of World War Three, and the Canadian military disobeyed the Canadian military took it upon themselves to follow the Americans regardless of what Ottawa said this is when the delusion of Canadian sovereignty was dissipated this is when the Canadian government decided that its own military was a threat which needed to be dismantled 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 it's all true of course, the Canadian national security state is an occupying power for all intents & purposes it is all run by foreign powers on their behalf at the expense of Canadians what is happening now is that America & China are vying for control of it slowly but surely the Canadian national security state is being lost to Washington, falling under control of Beijing Beijing's weapon of choice being money, the Chinese bribe Canada to sell its own people down the river since Canadian governance is all about bribery in lieu of a functioning Confederation, it all works out for the Chinese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 (edited) many Canadians falling prey to the mechanism is not a sign that the Canadian-American relationship is better when a Democrat is POTUS Zeitgeist appears to be under the impression that media complaining about Canadian-American relations a lot more when Trump was in office is simply because there was more things to complain about and not that the media bias has a totally distorted view of reality Edited May 23, 2021 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: and not that the media bias has a totally distorted view of reality well you can see the canaries in this coal mine you will note how the Canadian state media propaganda arms castigate the Canadian military the Canadian military is all "White Supremacist Extremist Mysognist Rapists" who must be rooted out they've even had a Canadian Forces member crash his truck into the gates into Rideau Hall to arrest Justin Trudeau in the name of the Queen at gun point this the is the Canadian political classes nightmare starting to come true the Anglo-American Canadian military could turn on the Liberals and try to overthrow the establishment by force Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 this is why the Liberals are obsessed with rounding up "Assault Weapons" it's not about gang violence, that is all handguns what the Liberals fear is the Mass Shooters not so much that those Mass Shooters are going to shoot up the Eaton Centre no doubt they fear the Mass Shooters politiczing the violence and then shooting the politicians instead no doubt they fear the military enabling it, because they know how much their own troops despise them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: this is why the Liberals are obsessed with rounding up "Assault Weapons" it's not about gang violence, that is all handguns what the Liberals fear is the Mass Shooters not so much that those Mass Shooters are going to shoot up the Eaton Centre no doubt they fear the Mass Shooters politiczing the violence and then shooting the politicians instead no doubt they fear the military enabling it, because they know how much their own troops despise them and the more the Liberals round up the "assault weapons" the more the troops despise them self fulfilling prophecy for the lulz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said: and the more the Liberals round up the "assault weapons" the more the troops despise them self fulfilling prophecy for the lulz there was a time of course, when God, Queen, Country stood in the way of this Canadian soldiers didn't swear fealty to Canada, we swore fealty to VRI Pro Patria but God, Queen, Country doesn't rule here anymore the Post National State is illegitimate, the Liberals know it, and they know that all the soldiers of the Crown know too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 (edited) like even as a seventeen year old high school drop out recruit I knew I was not swearing fealty to Canadian Cofederation not only did the oath specifically edit that out of the legally binding text but it was obvious that you could not swear fealty to Canada, because then Canada doesn't work you can't have a Parti Quebecois in office if Canada was a republic because that would make all of Quebec into traitors if Canada were to become a republic, it would be bound to go to war against itself only the monarchy can square the circle of Canada but by replacing that with the Post National State Canada is starting to go war against itself by default Edited May 23, 2021 by Dougie93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: like even as a seventeen year old high school drop out recruit I knew I was not swearing fealty to Canadian Cofederation not only did the oath specifically edit that out of the legally binding text but it was obvious that you could not swear fealty to Canada, because then Canada doesn't work you can't have a Parti Quebecois in office if Canada was a republic, because that would make all of Quebec into traitors if Canada were to become a republic, it would be bound to go to war against itself only the monarchy can square the circle of Canada but by replacing that with the Post National State Canada is starting to go war against itself by default vive le Quebec libre #monarchynotarepublic Edited May 23, 2021 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: vive le Quebec libre #monarchynotarepublic ironically, Quebec is the most monarchist part of Canada Quebec is the most British, least American part of Canada reason being, it is the Queen herself who says they have the right to opt out if Canada becomes a completely Americanized republic, Quebec will be forced to fight a war of independence so in fact it is Elizabeth Windsor who is the one defending vive le Quebec libre in the end Je me souviens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 Yet Canada works very well, just too woke like much of the West. I agree with most of your assertions about the military in the sense that Canada has been discouraged by the US from empowering itself except in the form of NATO contributions which are a proxy for the US. Remember the Avro shutdown? In some ways Trudeau senior’s pacifism sheltered Canada from the military industrial complex quagmire in which it was ensconced in the late 40’s to 60’s. If Canada didn’t have a permanent seat at the Security Council and would essentially be left with supporting US missions, what leadership is left apart from peacekeeping and diplomacy? Which is it, does Canada flesh out its military branches or let them die? I think the only course left for hard power in Canada is primarily aircraft, ships, and drones to patrol the coasts and for quick deployment overseas. It has to be high tech and light on its feet, but always capable of defending Canada. We can’t hold a candle to US might and trying is a waste of money. I do think our military must become more like the UK’s as we approach 50 million people, with a strong Arctic component, but I’m not a military guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: ironically, Quebec is the most monarchist part of Canada Quebec is the most British, least American part of Canada reason being, it is the Queen herself who says they have the right to opt out if Canada becomes a completely Americanized republic, Quebec will be forced to fight a war of independence so in fact it is Elizabeth Windsor who is the one defending vive le Quebec libre in the end Je me souviens Not true. The opt-out is constitutional, and somewhat measured by the Clarity Act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 Just now, Zeitgeist said: Not true. The opt-out is constitutional, and somewhat measured by the Clarity Act. whatever helps you sleep at night I think most Canadians are aware that Quebec has Canada over a barrel what is Canada going to do if they ignore the Clarity Act ? send the troops in ? what troops ? Canada has dismantled its own military the Republic of Quebec would hand Canada its asses in any sort of fight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 there is only one thing keeping Quebec in Confederation, and that is bribery Canada bribes Quebec not to formally declare full independence Canada can only do this now by selling debt to the Chinese Communists in Beijing if Canada runs out of capacity to print money, if inflation puts a stop to that, all heck will break loose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted May 23, 2021 Report Share Posted May 23, 2021 the governance by bribery has now expanded to the entire Confederation it is not just Quebec the Liberals are bribing not to go to civil unrest they are bribing everybody now, the Liberals hand out printed money to keep the angry mobs at bay under the facade of normality projected by the state media propaganda arms, Canada is actually a boiling cauldron of instability Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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