BubberMiley Posted November 20, 2020 Report Posted November 20, 2020 4 hours ago, Infidel Dog said: Trump won Utah. I don't know who Rino Romney thinks he's representing. People who believe in democracy. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Argus Posted November 21, 2020 Report Posted November 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Infidel Dog said: He's a Rino Republican or what Canadians might call a Progressive Conservative - both coming from what I might call the Argus Right which is more like some kind of right when convenient but less and less so as real right. He's a conservative Republican, unlike you or Trump. Neither of you is conservative. You're both just uneducated and given to ridiculous conspiracies. You have no meaning in your life so you've seized on Trumpism. Better to have found something constructive. 1 Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Michael Hardner Posted November 21, 2020 Report Posted November 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Argus said: He's a conservative Republican, unlike you or Trump. Neither of you is conservative. You're both just uneducated and given to ridiculous conspiracies. You have no meaning in your life so you've seized on Trumpism. Better to have found something constructive. I never considered that. Politics should never have replaced identity or religion. Bad move. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
sharkman Posted November 21, 2020 Report Posted November 21, 2020 The derangement is strong with this one, fellas. 1 Quote
Infidel Dog Posted November 21, 2020 Report Posted November 21, 2020 4 hours ago, BubberMiley said: People who believe in democracy. America isn't a democracy. It's a Republic. A democracy is 6 gang rapists and a victim deciding who gets to have a good time. It's 2 wolves and sheep deciding what's for dinner. And no, I don't believe in that. It doesn't surprise that you and your friends do though. Quote
sharkman Posted November 21, 2020 Report Posted November 21, 2020 And now, for your viewing pleasure, an invigorated, rested, newly minted PRESIDENT ELECT JOE BIDEN!!!(not official just yet) That was during his press conference yesterday. Will he even make it to January? Quote
Infidel Dog Posted November 21, 2020 Report Posted November 21, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Argus said: He's a conservative Republican, unlike you or Trump. Neither of you is conservative. Mitt Romney? No, He's not. He's the creator of the model for Obamacare during his time as Governor of Massachusetts. He's no more a real conservative than John McCain (who I'm guessing would be another one of your idols) was. As to your expertise on what makes a conservative, you're joking right? Do you understand at least that the term "Progressive Conservative" is an oxymoron? Do you not understand why they call Mitt Romney a "RINO," as in Republican In Name Only? Have you seriously never heard the term "Trumpism" during your time as self-appointed expert of experts? Maybe before you get too full of yourself on that one you need to spend a little more time considering what made Trump's policies so successful and less time on how the quirks of his character bothered you. Edited November 21, 2020 by Infidel Dog Quote
Infidel Dog Posted November 21, 2020 Report Posted November 21, 2020 A little too much blather in this one from Crowder, below but if you can get through it and understand what the figures are saying you'll get why people are calling this election another Democrat attempt at a coup: Quote
BeaverFever Posted November 21, 2020 Report Posted November 21, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, Infidel Dog said: America isn't a democracy. It's a Republic. A democracy is 6 gang rapists and a victim deciding who gets to have a good time. It's 2 wolves and sheep deciding what's for dinner. And no, I don't believe in that. It doesn't surprise that you and your friends do though. ......And here’s the pivot we last heard from the right wing back in the days of the Weimar Republic: Democracy bad. Black Friday special: Brown shirts are 50% off. Edited November 21, 2020 by BeaverFever Quote
Guest Posted November 21, 2020 Report Posted November 21, 2020 12 hours ago, Infidel Dog said: America isn't a democracy. It's a Republic. A democracy is 6 gang rapists and a victim deciding who gets to have a good time. It's 2 wolves and sheep deciding what's for dinner. And no, I don't believe in that. It doesn't surprise that you and your friends do though. At least there's some honesty now. It has nothing to do with voter fraud. I would be curious as to how many of your co-arguers on here agree with you. Quote
sharkman Posted November 21, 2020 Report Posted November 21, 2020 3 hours ago, BeaverFever said: ......And here’s the pivot we last heard from the right back in the days of the Weimar Republic: Democracy bad. Black Friday special: Brown shirts are 50% off. It's not a democracy, maybe losing $100 will demonstrate that to you. Quote
BeaverFever Posted November 21, 2020 Report Posted November 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, sharkman said: It's not a democracy, maybe losing $100 will demonstrate that to you. And just like that the Republicans are now pro-dictatorship. Funny because while I still doubt Trump will remain president, betting that Republicans will eventually turn America into a dictatorship now feels more certain than ever. Quote
Infidel Dog Posted November 21, 2020 Report Posted November 21, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, BeaverFever said: ......And here’s the pivot we last heard from the right back in the days of the Weimar Republic: Democracy bad. Black Friday special: Brown shirts are 50% off. Pure democracy or majority rule isn't so much bad as stupid. Again - 2 wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner. The vote should be seen as a regulated tool not the all-governing, primary precept. Even so there can be the danger of totalitarians such as the Communists or the Nazis using the vote to acquire enough power to to gain more then getting rid of the vote as a meaningful factor. This is a reason I'd be very wary of the Techno-fascist globalists behind Biden and wouldn't want to give up my 2nd amendment. Nobody wants what the Nazis were able to do to the Weimar Republic to happen in America. For now though, and for America they have what the famous quote says they have - "a Republic, if you can keep it." Edited November 21, 2020 by Infidel Dog Quote
BeaverFever Posted November 21, 2020 Report Posted November 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Infidel Dog said: Nobody wants what the Nazis were able to do to the Weimar Republic to happen in America. That’s exactly what you’re doing though. This is exactly what happened in Weimar and you’re making the exact same arguments to justify it. Quote
BeaverFever Posted November 21, 2020 Report Posted November 21, 2020 6 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said: Pure democracy or majority rule isn't so much bad as stupid. Again - 2 wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner. Also you’re aware of what you’re saying here right? The public can’t be trusted and you’re suddenly concerned about protecting minorities? That doesn’t sound very populist or conservative and it’s the very opposite in fact. Again just more proof that Republicans will fucking say anything Quote
Infidel Dog Posted November 21, 2020 Report Posted November 21, 2020 1 minute ago, BeaverFever said: That’s exactly what you’re doing though. This is exactly what happened in Weimar and you’re making the exact same arguments to justify it. Nonsense. If you're using that paradigm the Republicans would be the Weimar. The Nazis would be the Biden corporates, globalists and techno-fascists gaining power first through a questionable vote. I get it though in your reality Proud Boys would be Brownshirts even though all they've ever done was fight actual Brown Black shirts. If you insist on matching histories though, antifa are the Brownshirts. Nazis used Jew-hate. Progs use White-guilt-hate. I can go on if you really want to play this Godwin game. Quote
Infidel Dog Posted November 21, 2020 Report Posted November 21, 2020 1 minute ago, BeaverFever said: Also you’re aware of what you’re saying here right? The public can’t be trusted. No, I'm saying a raw majority can't be trusted. Not in a gang-rape and not in politics. If you want to play with language though, are you pushing for mob rule? Wouldn't surprise me, because that is the way it begins. If you still want to make what happened in pre-war Germany the comparable, I mean. Quote
BeaverFever Posted November 21, 2020 Report Posted November 21, 2020 17 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said: Nonsense. If you're using that paradigm the Republicans would be the Weimar. The Nazis would be the Biden corporates, globalists and techno-fascists gaining power first through a questionable vote. I get it though in your reality Proud Boys would be Brownshirts even though all they've ever done was fight actual Brown Black shirts. If you insist on matching histories though, antifa are the Brownshirts. Nazis used Jew-hate. Progs use White-guilt-hate. I can go on if you really want to play this Godwin game. Uh no. Republicans are the ones claiming wild and grandiose conspiracy theories, that democracy is dangerous to society, the press is the enemy of the people and that the election results should be cast aside so that a “GREAT MAN” can be appointed leader to rule with absolute power in the people’s best interest, and the truth is whatever the “GREAT MAN” says it is regardless of evidence. That’s fascism 101 Quote
BeaverFever Posted November 21, 2020 Report Posted November 21, 2020 19 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said: No, I'm saying a raw majority can't be trusted. Not in a gang-rape and not in politics. If you want to play with language though, are you pushing for mob rule? Wouldn't surprise me, because that is the way it begins. If you still want to make what happened in pre-war Germany the comparable, I mean. Populism is mob rule, period. Anything else requires “elites” to make decisions. So are you suddenly and advocate for minority rights now? I notice you didn’t mention it in your reply above. Quote
Infidel Dog Posted November 21, 2020 Report Posted November 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Uh no. Republicans are the ones claiming wild and grandiose conspiracy theories, that democracy is dangerous to society, So Bud, but what you want to believe is rarely what's true in reality, I notice. If you're trying to convince us Republicans claim the general idea of a vote is dangerous to society it requires at least a link to somewhere Republicans are saying this. If that isn't what you're saying, define your terms. What exactly are you saying. Don't insinuate spell it out. Quote
Infidel Dog Posted November 21, 2020 Report Posted November 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Populism is mob rule, period. No, it's not. Peaceful protest such as we saw at the million MAGA march in Washington last week can be the public display of Populism. A display of "Mob Rule" would be what we're seeing in places like Portland. And it's spreading via the usual suspects. 1 Quote
BeaverFever Posted November 21, 2020 Report Posted November 21, 2020 16 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said: So Bud, but what you want to believe is rarely what's true in reality, I notice. If you're trying to convince us Republicans claim the general idea of a vote is dangerous to society it requires at least a link to somewhere Republicans are saying this. If that isn't what you're saying, define your terms. What exactly are you saying. Don't insinuate spell it out. You’re the one who posted a link saying Trumps master plan is to have the entire election thrown out and have congress appoint him president. And now you’re saying democracy is equivalent to gang rape. Put 2 and 2 together Quote
BeaverFever Posted November 21, 2020 Report Posted November 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said: No, it's not. Peaceful protest such as we saw at the million MAGA march in Washington last week can be the public display of Populism. A display of "Mob Rule" would be what we're seeing in places like Portland. And it's spreading via the usual suspects. Two fake claims in memes can’t hide that you don’t know what you’re talking about. Populism is not simply peaceful protests. Also you’re still dodging the quest about minority rights. Why is that? Quote
Infidel Dog Posted November 21, 2020 Report Posted November 21, 2020 Again, what you want to believe has little resemblance to contextual reality. And you're doing that thing again you like to do when you get desperate. You're asking people to ignore the obvious. In context that isn't what I said. Quote
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