Wet Got Bigger Problems Than George Floyd

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Boges said:

Directly related to the idea that people on the right actually give two shits about the property of poor people in the inner city. They'll never vote for them. 

Don't be such an uninformed bigot Boges. (Go ahead and cry to the mod Boges, he won't care that I correctly identified you as a bigot for making the claim that people on the right don't care about inner city folk).

People "on the right" care just as much as people on the left. The difference is that people on the left carry on like 90% of blacks and inner city folk are losers who need handouts in order to feed themselves. People on the left don't notice tens of thousands of cops risking their lives to protect black folks every single day, but they pounce on every biennial instance of police brutality in which a black person dies like it's already proven to be 100% racism and nothing else. What do you think is more significant Boges: the fact that police face danger to help black people in the US 700,000 times a year, or the fact that 2 or 3 times a year a cop is involved in a wrongful death, and 40% of the victims are black?  

What makes you think that people on the left, like Biden, care so much about poor or black folks? Can you name any famous crime bills that Biden created or sponsored that have been deemed to be racist? Do you ever wonder how Demmie politicians always manage to amass a lot of wealth despite their salaries of $200K or less? How does that happen?

Get a load of this: when a guy goes into the pulse night club yelling to his muslim deity while killing gay people with an AK-47, leftist morons all say "it's too early to say if he was a terrorist". At the same time they'll blame Republicans (who don't typically yell muslim platitudes) and gun laws (despite the fact that AK-47s have been illegal since before there were ever any AK-47s) for those killings before the last shell casing even hits the ground. And when a cop kills a black man without making any racist comments, it's ok to jump right to the conclusion that it was a racist killing right away, and that white supremacists were involved. Do you ever get the feeling that, on average, leftists are extremely stupid and hypocritical? Hint: the truth is - they are. 

I'll state this unequivocally and for the record that, on average, leftists are naive, stupid people. There are plenty of examples above, and if you want, I can provide plenty more.

 

[Infidel Dog]

27 minutes ago, Rue said:

Some responses only need pictures.

 

 

 

 

And here's one from another previous post on this thread you missed. Tony Timba was a white guy who suffered the same fate as Floyd. So unless your point is police in general and with all races - no single race more than another - need to handle these kinds of cases differently I'd like to know what your point is.

 

Edited June 3, 2020 by Infidel Dog

[Infidel Dog]

I'm getting the idea from the Floyd and Timba cases that when dealing with a large person who's resisting arrest what you do is pin him to the ground and wait for the wagon.

What would be a better policy, I wonder. Not kneel on the guy's neck, of course, but would that be enough?

Edited June 3, 2020 by Infidel Dog

[taxme]

22 hours ago, scribblet said:

It isn't anymore, it can't be as the guy is up on charges.  Someone is helping organize and leaving piles of bricks around, fanning the flames of insurrection and chaos.    They used to shoot looters. 

It's not often one sees such blatant thieving criminality and without an ounce of shame, in broad daylight. Watching this criminal behaviour is particularly shocking because these people are so seemingly unaware of what morality is, that they are capable of repeating this action and possibly worse crime, with no sense that they have done anything wrong.  They seem to think it's okay to kill a black police officer, beat up women and men trying to defend their businesses, torch a house with children inside

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/dallas-man-beaten-machete-riot-store

 

 

https://www.kmov.com/news/retired-st-louis-police-captain-david-dorn-murdered-by-a-looter-outside-pawn-shop/article_327ce1e4-a4a9-11ea-8b67-ff8a3d5d9ab4.html

who will protest in his name, cos you know - black lives matter

Senseless brutality

 

 

 

 

 

And look at those gutless blacks beating up on a small white woman, and thinking that they are a bunch of tough guys. And they want white people to have and show respect for scum like that? Indeed, 1,323 people should be talking about this video, especially white people, who are mostly the target when it comes to these black demonstrations. It makes no matter what white people try to do to help blacks make a go of it, white people will always be despised forever. We see on  CNN and MSNBC black news reporters and their guests always talking about and attacking and mocking white people and their so called white privilege ad nauseum. And those white news reporters or interviewers never will say a word against those black whatever's as to their promotion of hatred towards white people. Oh, there is real racism going on in America today, and it is not white people that are the ones that appear to be trying to promote racism  anymore. 

The lying American media were trying to blame all of the violence and rioting and looting on white supremacists who were nowhere to be found. But what the lying media purposely left out was the fact that it was not WS but it was scumbag Soros paid off communist Antifa thugs that were committing all the violence, rioting and the looting. They were there alright because they were seen on TV and they were dressed up in their usually black garb with their faces covered. 

I watched a video today and there was a black woman who just had her sister shot and killed during the riots and looting's. But she did not blame the police for her sister's death. She blamed one of the demonstrators who shot her sister, and not the cops. The cops took a lot of shit abuse but held their ground and did not do anything to try and make the situation worse. It was the lying pro-democratic American media and Soros who tried to make things worse for all, especially for the cops. Disgusting indeed. 

Edited June 3, 2020 by taxme

[Infidel Dog]

I have to post this one from Tucker Carlson because it has lots of good footage but also a line that's a classic.

"Some Democrats have openly embraced what's happening...really they don't have much of a choice. These are their voters cleaning out the rolex store. These riots effectively are the largest Joe Biden for President rally on record."

 

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Boges said:

The more people who think like this. The more these protests will keep happening. 

It was pointed out to me that when Trayvon Martin got killed or when Eric Garner got killed or when Micheal Brown got killed, you didn't see organizations en masse release statements decrying violence against POC. 

The times, they are a changin' 

Only Garner's death was even remotely similar to this one. Michael Brown? LMAO. You might as well compare Michael Jackson's death to Rodney King's. 

[Shady]

19 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

I have to post this one from Tucker Carlson because it has lots of good footage but also a line that's a classic.

"Some Democrats have openly embraced what's happening...really they don't have much of a choice. These are their voters cleaning out the rolex store. These riots effectively are the largest Joe Biden for President rally on record."

 

His monologue was amazing!  He took shots at every politician, even Trump.

[Shady]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Don't be such an uninformed bigot Boges. (Go ahead and cry to the mod Boges, he won't care that I correctly identified you as a bigot for making the claim that people on the right don't care about inner city folk).

People "on the right" care just as much as people on the left. The difference is that people on the left carry on like 90% of blacks and inner city folk are losers who need handouts in order to feed themselves. People on the left don't notice tens of thousands of cops risking their lives to protect black folks every single day, but they pounce on every biennial instance of police brutality in which a black person dies like it's already proven to be 100% racism and nothing else. What do you think is more significant Boges: the fact that police face danger to help black people in the US 700,000 times a year, or the fact that 2 or 3 times a year a cop is involved in a wrongful death, and 40% of the victims are black?  

What makes you think that people on the left, like Biden, care so much about poor or black folks? Can you name any famous crime bills that Biden created or sponsored that have been deemed to be racist? Do you ever wonder how Demmie politicians always manage to amass a lot of wealth despite their salaries of $200K or less? How does that happen?

Get a load of this: when a guy goes into the pulse night club yelling to his muslim deity while killing gay people with an AK-47, leftist morons all say "it's too early to say if he was a terrorist". At the same time they'll blame Republicans (who don't typically yell muslim platitudes) and gun laws (despite the fact that AK-47s have been illegal since before there were ever any AK-47s) for those killings before the last shell casing even hits the ground. And when a cop kills a black man without making any racist comments, it's ok to jump right to the conclusion that it was a racist killing right away, and that white supremacists were involved. Do you ever get the feeling that, on average, leftists are extremely stupid and hypocritical? Hint: the truth is - they are. 

I'll state this unequivocally and for the record that, on average, leftists are naive, stupid people. There are plenty of examples above, and if you want, I can provide plenty more.

 

I often find that the biggest bigots are usually on the left, but think that they’re virtuous.  The woman from the park in New York was a great example.  Then you add in the soft bigotry of low expectations.

[taxme]

43 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

I'm getting the idea from the Floyd and Timba cases that when dealing with a large person who's resisting arrest what you do is pin him to the ground and wait for the wagon.

What would be a better policy, I wonder. Not kneel on the guy's neck, of course, but would that be enough?

If someone is on some kind of A drug they can produce a lot of strength from that drug. Maybe that cop has had other such incidents with a big black or white dude and had some problems with that dude and nearly got himself injured of killed. We just do not know as to why the cop did what he did, and we probably never will. 

[Argus]

1 hour ago, Infidel Dog said:

I'm getting the idea from the Floyd and Timba cases that when dealing with a large person who's resisting arrest what you do is pin him to the ground and wait for the wagon.

What would be a better policy, I wonder. Not kneel on the guy's neck, of course, but would that be enough?

A lot of police need  better training in positional asphyxia. Hobbles around the ankles would make a violently resisting person much easier to control, so you could roll them on their side. They can't stay on their chest, especially if they're full of drugs like Floyd was.

[taxme]

27 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

I have to post this one from Tucker Carlson because it has lots of good footage but also a line that's a classic.

"Some Democrats have openly embraced what's happening...really they don't have much of a choice. These are their voters cleaning out the rolex store. These riots effectively are the largest Joe Biden for President rally on record."

 

More people should listen to what Tucker has to say. He pulls no punches and pretty much tells it like it is. Some of the pro leftist lieberals and socialists here do not want to hear or learn and get the other side of the story. And they are the first here to try and tell us all that they know best, and that it is all Trump's fault.  

After this is all over, it will be democrats and their lying American media who will have to explain as to why they did nothing about the riots and looting's in the beginning. Even the American leftist lieberal democratic media were all on the side of the demonstrators and rioters. Trump had nothing to do with what took place but the lying media and the democrats are trying to blame all of this on Trump. The democrats and their lieberal lying media are trying to find anything they can blame Trump for because if they lose the next election Trump will hammer and nail the liars into the wall. Their useless and imbecile lives are doomed if Trump wins the next election. it's do or die for those lying leftist losers. A big loss will look good on them. 

The American media lied about Trump and Russia collusion. They lied about the Mueller probe. They lied about impeachment. They lied about Kavanaugh. They lied about the corona virus, and now they are lying about this Floyd demonstration. And these democratic supporters want these liars in the media and the democratic party to take power in the next election in November? These people have no idea just how insane they really are in the head. Those buffoons would prefer liars in the White House rather than someone like Trump who wants to make their lives and America great again. Gawd help the rest of the world if bumbling idiots like Biden takes the White House. Wars will be back in business once again. Just saying. 

[taxme]

20 hours ago, eyeball said:

I love how you guys always feel like you're in the middle of the unfolding of some master conspiracy. As it was pointed out in the Hitch-hikers Guide to the Galaxy though everyone gets that.

In any case given the backdrop the timing for a galvanizing event was spot on, never has there been a more graphic example of how closely associated collapse is with fiddling.

Just keep voting for leftist lieberals, socialists and communists and you will get more of this shit happening. The democrats are the masters at producing and promoting hatred, racism, riots, looting's and violence. This was just another example of how they try to make a mountain out of a mole hill, and then try to blame it all on Trump. Their communist motto is never let a good situation like this one go on by. But hopefully, in the end, Trump will make them all look like the evil communist bunch of batards that they are. There is no doubt about it that the democrats and their pro-democratic lying American media are all in favor of turning America into a communist country if it means that they can rule forever. Gawd help the world if they win the next election. All of your problems of today will be nothing compared to what those sob's have in store for people like you and the rest of the world. Your ass will be their's to pork. Believe it or not. 

[WestCanMan]

57 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

"Some Democrats have openly embraced what's happening...really they don't have much of a choice. These are their voters cleaning out the rolex store. These riots effectively are the largest Joe Biden for President rally on record."

LMAO.

I like Tucker but I don't watch his show. When he has guests on they always know that they don't have to answer any of his questions. He has as much control over the conversations as Jerry Springer does over his guests on a full moon, Friday the 13th. 

[OftenWrong]

1 hour ago, Infidel Dog said:

I'm getting the idea from the Floyd and Timba cases that when dealing with a large person who's resisting arrest what you do is pin him to the ground and wait for the wagon.

What would be a better policy, I wonder. Not kneel on the guy's neck, of course, but would that be enough?

 

47 minutes ago, taxme said:

If someone is on some kind of A drug they can produce a lot of strength from that drug. Maybe that cop has had other such incidents with a big black or white dude and had some problems with that dude and nearly got himself injured of killed. We just do not know as to why the cop did what he did, and we probably never will. 

I heard that some cops may do that, pin them down by their necks. It's a good way to keep a big man down but they're supposed to ease up and let them breath once in a while.

[Argus]

Hmmmm.

• In 2016, for every thousand white people arrested for a violent crime, three white people were killed by police.

• In 2016, for every thousand black people arrested for a violent crime, two black people were killed by police.

https://rosebyanyothernameblog.wordpress.com/2020/06/02/watching-violence-in-black-and-white/

[WestCanMan]

Are people out protesting or what? 

It's all quiet on the leftern front. (Yeah that's a word now)

[New World Disorder]

2 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

Yes, I see you are very pleased. How many more people were killed?

Wrong optics.  How dare you even put forth the notion I am ok with people being killed. Shameful.

The protests are good because people are tired of getting screwed over year after year. When people from other nations are calling out the systemic racism (more accurately systemic classism) in the USA, you know there is a bigger problem.

[Michael Hardner]

2 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

I'd be happy to if you could explain to me why you think Blue Matters is relevant to something. In fact...relevant to what exactly? It's dificult to offer a reaction to your opinion when I'm not sure what it is. What exactly are you talking about?

I'm trying to explain the value of emotional group response in politics.  You seem to think that it's ok to feel emotions sometimes and not others?

 

But I'm not sure.  Maybe give me an example of the Republican base violating the principles you're invoking towards BLM?

[Michael Hardner]

2 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

You've stopped making sense to me.

When is it ok for a political movement to invoke irrational emotional response to achieve a political goal?

[WestCanMan]

29 minutes ago, New World Disorder said:

Wrong optics.  How dare you even put forth the notion I am ok with people being killed. Shameful.

The protests are good because people are tired of getting screwed over year after year. When people from other nations are calling out the systemic racism (more accurately systemic classism) in the USA, you know there is a bigger problem.

Utter bullshit.

The protests aren't good, because they're actually riots.

Riots aren't good because communities are being destroyed, and hatred is growing.

In what country are people in any position to look down on America? 

[New World Disorder]

56 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Utter bullshit.

The protests aren't good, because they're actually riots.

Riots aren't good because communities are being destroyed, and hatred is growing.

In what country are people in any position to look down on America? 

Most of the protests we see online are peaceful. It's been the police that have actually been very aggressive.  I have no problem with going after looters and stuff. But the cops are NOT going after those people. Check it out. In every case WHERE are the cops? Getting the looters or beating down peaceful protestors? 

The beatings shall continue until moral improves. The looting will continue until officials start to listen.

[OftenWrong]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

When is it ok for a political movement to invoke irrational emotional response to achieve a political goal?

Hmm, how about when civil law and order can still be maintained.

[Infidel Dog]

3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

I'm trying to explain the value of emotional group response in politics.  You seem to think that it's ok to feel emotions sometimes and not others?

 

But I'm not sure.  Maybe give me an example of the Republican base violating the principles you're invoking towards BLM?

Actually what I'm saying is "facts don't care about your feelings."

As to - and I quote - the "Republican base violating the principles you're invoking towards BLM". Huh? What on earth are you talking about?

Edited June 4, 2020 by Infidel Dog

[Boges]

14 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Only Garner's death was even remotely similar to this one. Michael Brown? LMAO. You might as well compare Michael Jackson's death to Rodney King's. 

Missed the point. 

The traction for Race incidents haven't achieved this level of scrutiny and support before. 

See what happened to Drew Brees yesterday. He probably thought that opinion was a safe one. 

[Michael Hardner]

9 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

Hmm, how about when civil law and order can still be maintained.

So if I come up with some examples of Republican tribal response breaking the law due to an emotional response, will you be with me ?

Let me be clear: I am actually all about using facts, establishing order through collaborative frameworks.  But it's odd for me to read that people believe one side or the other has a lock on the high road.  Michelle Obama said "When they go low, we go high"  Did you believe her ?

Here's an example of civil law and order being broken for emotional response: toothless hicks carrying "I need a haircut" signs... storming the legislature, egged on by propaganda memes, carrying automatic weapons.  Seems less important than protesting a killer cop, at least to me.