The Coronavirus

[eyeball]

3 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

A seven year old composes an isolation waltz:

That brought tears to my ears. Thanks I needed that.

[Abies]

On 3/21/2020 at 12:23 PM, Argus said:

The government has not invoked any emergency powers.

You are correct. My mistake. 

[Rue]

22 hours ago, Argus said:

This is stupid. We've already pointed out how much more dangerous the coronavirus is than the flu. Are you people just blind or incapable of processing basic information? More people have already died from the CV19 in a month than usually die in a year from flu, and that's WITH the big lockdown. We see bodies piling up in hallways and in refrigerator trucks outside hospitals, and mortuaries being overwhelmed with dead so they can't process them. You think that's some kind of worldwide conspiracy?

It has only  been pointed out it's actually not as or more  dangerous tgan certain flus no one denies it  allows piggy backing of opportunistic infections that kill.

You seec what you want to see.  In fact this virus is lethal in relative terms and you are not interested in the relative terms and stereotype anyone who tells you that as their  denying the virus is lethal because you closed your mind to the actual variables.

You gain assume all tigers will eat you. You show primal fear. You argue fear keeps you alive by running...not if it causes you to run off a cliff..you might instead learn how and where the tiger travels and avoid its territory..it might be more useful then running in a panic or thinking a mask, i.e., a pee shooter will keep you safe from a wild tiger.

[SpankyMcFarland]

Hydroxychloroquine has some unpleasant side effects. You’d want to be taking it for good reason.
 

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Several hospitals in Sweden have reportedly stopped administering chloroquine to coronavirus patients following reports the drug was causing adverse side effects.

According to the national paper Expressen, hospitals in the Västra Götaland region are no longer offering the antimalarial medication, with side effects reported to include cramps and the loss of peripheral vision.

One of the patients affected was Carl Sydenhag, a 40-year-old Stockholm resident. According to Expressen, Sydenhag was prescribed two tablets of chloroquine to take daily after he was diagnosed with COVID-19 on March 23.

But instead of making him feel better, the medication produced unpleasant side effects. As well as cramps and vision loss, Sydenhag experienced a headache that felt like stepping into "a high voltage plant," he told the paper.

https://www.newsweek.com/swedish-hospitals-chloroquine-covid-19-side-effects-1496368

The evidence for HCQ in COVID is patchy at the moment. That French trial by Gautret which created such a stir was tiny and six patients involved were lost to follow-up, which further complicates the findings:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0924857920300996

 

Edited April 7, 2020 by SpankyMcFarland

[Rue]

I also believe interferon has not proven effective either. 

Edited April 7, 2020 by Rue

[Argus]

4 hours ago, Rue said:

It has only  been pointed out it's actually not as or more  dangerous tgan certain flus no one denies it  allows piggy backing of opportunistic infections that kill.

That's specious bullshit.

[SpankyMcFarland]

As far back as February, some brave politicians in Iran were expresssing deep scepticism about the government's COVID figures:

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Gholam Ali Jafazadeh Imanabadi, MP for Rasht has urged state officials to present the real figures. "You may conceal the numbers, but you cannot hide graveyards," he said.

Reporting what he has seen during visits to graveyards in Tehran and Rasht, Imanabadi charged that "the officials conceal the statistics from the people," adding that what has been officially declared is not accurate....

....Nahid Khodakarami, the head of the Tehran City Council's health committee says "some 10,000 to 15,000 Iranians may have already contracted the virus." She says "although these figures might look pessimistic, some people may have the virus in their body without knowing about it yet."

 

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https://en.radiofarda.com/a/lawmaker-in-iran-dismisses-official-coronavirus-death-toll/30460224.html

 

[Boges]

4 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Hydroxychloroquine has some unpleasant side effects. You’d want to be taking it for good reason.
 

The evidence for HCQ in COVID is patchy at the moment. That French trial by Gautret which created such a stir was tiny and six patients involved were lost to follow-up, which further complicates the findings:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0924857920300996

 

People who can't handle the side effects are Cucks!

- MAGA fans. 

[Shady]

5 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Hydroxychloroquine has some unpleasant side effects. You’d want to be taking it for good reason.
 

The evidence for HCQ in COVID is patchy at the moment. That French trial by Gautret which created such a stir was tiny and six patients involved were lost to follow-up, which further complicates the findings:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0924857920300996

 

The side effects are known as the drug as been in use for several decades.  There’s certain types of patients that shouldn’t be given it.  Doctors know what types of patients they are.  New York is using it, and having significant positive results.

[Shady]

53 minutes ago, Argus said:

That's specious bullshit.

We actually don’t really know if it’s all that more deadly than the flu.  It’s certainly more contagious.  But there are studies that suggest up to 50% of those infected exhibit no symptoms.  Meaning that the virus is much more widespread, and a significantly higher percentage of the population have been infected.  Meaning, the actual hospitalization rate and mortality rate are even lower than previously thought.   It’s not really proper to compare it to the flu.  Because many people get flu shots every season to protect themselves.  That’s why the flu isn’t as big of a deal anymore.

[taxme]

18 hours ago, bcsapper said:

I don't fear our political leaders at all.  You really should be less timid.  Less of a lemming.

As for your first comment.  Such nonsense.  It's a good job this one is different from the Swine Flu, in terms of infection rate, because with that infection rate and this death rate, it would be scary.

We all should bloody well fear their politicians. They are the ones that keep trying to take our rights away. They steal our tax dollars. They create more red tape. Does anyone feel more free today then what they did three weeks ago? They are starting to act like little commie dyktators these days. I feel like all of Canada has now become one big gigantic prison where many have or were forced to stay at home. No assemblies allowed anymore because if one does have a get together with 6,8 or 10 people of their friends at their homes there is the good chance that some little commie like squealer will squeal on them to the cops. If someone squealed on me, and I found out who they were, him/her and me are going to have a nice talk after all of this sillyness is over. No one here can honestly say that they like squealers especially if someone went and squealed on them over something like this. 

But besides all of that,  the lemmings are the ones that are still believing and carrying on with this hoax of a show. Your problem is that you listen too much to the lying media and your fake politicians who keep trying to put fear and panic into your brains. Sure people are dying but it would appear as though people who are dying from other diseases are now being lumped in with people who are supposed to be dying from this fake virus. The numbers have to be kept high to be able to continue on with this farce. 

One woman's father had heart problems. When he died the hospital told her that he died from the virus. She did not believe them and wanted another autopsy done on her father. The results were that the father did not die from the virus. He died from heart failure. So much for believing what the the lying media has to say, eh? Wake up for gawds sake and stop allowing yourself to be treated as a buffoon by your dear leaders and the media. Some good friendly advice from your good friendly neighbor member. Chuckle-chuckle. 

[taxme]

18 hours ago, eyeball said:

In the future the proximity to wilderness and distance from neighbours will be valued as greatly as waterfront causing the gentrification of rural areas and especially where rural areas are scarce. If people thought there was a housing crisis in isolated tourist towns now wait until the speculators emerge after this crisis and drive affordability even farther thru the roof.

I won't be surprised if there's a push for some kind of land reform given how many small towns are surrounded by thousands of square km of Crown land.  Indigenous people on negotiated treaty lands could make a fortune in lease fees if they play their cards right. At the moment though most I'm aware of hereabouts have banned and blockaded all outsiders from their communities.

Then we all should all go out and buy some property in the bush somewhere, that is after we are all allowed to go out once again, before the speculators and the big developers go do the same thing and start taking it all. Oh ya, it's for sure that those speculators and big developers will being seeing big time dollars in their eyes now, and will probably be on the move to start buying up lots of land in the bush as soon as this is all over or it could be sooner. It's for sure that our dear leaders will know first hand as to where and what land will be opened up where they will no doubt start buying land in those areas at a very good low price, and then sell it a year down the road and make some money on that land. After all, our dear leaders do like to get in on the action first before we the people are able to do. I have never noticed at anytime in my scruffy life where a politician has thought about me first and themselves second. It ain't ever going to happen that way either, pardner. 

Btw, I wonder how are those native  Indian blockades going? I have not heard a word about them ever since all this virus stuff came along. It's like it has all gone suddenly quiet on the native Indian warpath front. Has peace been declared or has there been a war going on now between the cavalry and the Indians that we are not being told about?  Just wondering. 

[taxme]

On 4/5/2020 at 4:08 PM, SpankyMcFarland said:

Looks like the Swedes may be in for a change of course:

 

They might as well join the rest of us suffering twits out there in the world. Why should they be allowed to carry on with business as usual like we did before all of this nonsense started up. They need to be pretty much locked down too. Those poor Swedes? They no not what is waiting for them.  I hope you get to like and enjoy your self or forced isolation. 

[Guest]

28 minutes ago, taxme said:

We all should bloody well fear their politicians. They are the ones that keep trying to take our rights away. They steal our tax dollars. They create more red tape. Does anyone feel more free today then what they did three weeks ago? They are starting to act like little commie dyktators these days. I feel like all of Canada has now become one big gigantic prison where many have or were forced to stay at home. No assemblies allowed anymore because if one does have a get together with 6,8 or 10 people of their friends at their homes there is the good chance that some little commie like squealer will squeal on them to the cops. If someone squealed on me, and I found out who they were, him/her and me are going to have a nice talk after all of this sillyness is over. No one here can honestly say that they like squealers especially if someone went and squealed on them over something like this. 

But besides all of that,  the lemmings are the ones that are still believing and carrying on with this hoax of a show. Your problem is that you listen too much to the lying media and your fake politicians who keep trying to put fear and panic into your brains. Sure people are dying but it would appear as though people who are dying from other diseases are now being lumped in with people who are supposed to be dying from this fake virus. The numbers have to be kept high to be able to continue on with this farce. 

One woman's father had heart problems. When he died the hospital told her that he died from the virus. She did not believe them and wanted another autopsy done on her father. The results were that the father did not die from the virus. He died from heart failure. So much for believing what the the lying media has to say, eh? Wake up for gawds sake and stop allowing yourself to be treated as a buffoon by your dear leaders and the media. Some good friendly advice from your good friendly neighbor member. Chuckle-chuckle. 

You're so afraid.  It must be a terrible way to live.  Have you considered counselling?

[taxme]

On 4/6/2020 at 2:29 AM, bush_cheney2004 said:

Looks like the provinces have implemented checkpoints to stop non-essential travel within Canada.    If this is a concern, maybe spend less time worrying about Trump and pay more attention to what is happening at home.   

 

 

Nah? What Trump says or does is way more important to Canucks here in Canukistan.  Now we have our dear bully dyktator leaders now restricting travel between provinces. I wonder what the hell will these buffoons dream up next and have in mind to try and throw their bully weight around to try and make our lives even more miserable than what they are already today over a bunch of bull chit. There will be new rules and regulations and laws and orders put in place to pretend to help fight this so called virus which once on the books will probably never come off those books. Not all, but some will stay for sure. I guess that our dear stupid leaders are trying to work their way up to shutting the whole dam country down. There will be no fun allowed until we your dear leaders say that you can now have some limited fun again. I guess that our dear leader Trudeau and maybe other political leaders do all really admire communist China and how things are done over their in that communist country. Enjoy your limited freedom with what you have for now because it may just get worse as weeks go on and have that freedom taken away. Hey, you never know, eh?  

[taxme]

49 minutes ago, Shady said:

We actually don’t really know if it’s all that more deadly than the flu.  It’s certainly more contagious.  But there are studies that suggest up to 50% of those infected exhibit no symptoms.  Meaning that the virus is much more widespread, and a significantly higher percentage of the population have been infected.  Meaning, the actual hospitalization rate and mortality rate are even lower than previously thought.   It’s not really proper to compare it to the flu.  Because many people get flu shots every season to protect themselves.  That’s why the flu isn’t as big of a deal anymore.

What is with all that spraying going on in the skies that are called Chemtrails that the military keeps spraying over our heads almost every day of the year? We need to know as to what is really in that spray that maybe could be affecting our health and well being. Maybe these Chemtrails are causing some kind of symptoms in our bodies that act like the flu and may have nothing to do with any so called China virus.  Hey, we never know, eh?    Question more. 

[taxme]

24 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

You're so afraid.  It must be a terrible way to live.  Have you considered counselling?

I am only afraid of people like you who appear to have been turned into a bunch of trained gullible seals. I am sure glad that I am not living in your brainwashed world. You and so many others like you are a hazard and a danger to my life and my freedoms, and not some fake and phony exercise plandemic. When you have visited the many websites that I have posted here who have been trying to inform us all to try and get the other side of the story then I will listen to what you have to say. But until then, it is you that appears to need plenty of counselling and lots of it.

There are more people that die from the common seasonal flu every year than will ever die from this phony plandemic virus. Just this constant brainwashing over and over and over again 24 hours a day on bull chit TV should tell you that there has to be something else going on here. Do you honestly believe that we should be told over and over again that we must wash our hands, stay indoors, and when outside practice social distancing or what some like to call it social engineering? Isn't a few times a day enough? But if If you enjoy listening to the same old bull chit over and over again, well you will one day make a great communist comrade and then you will get all the brainwashing that you want and need. A hammer and sickle salute to you. 

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, taxme said:

I am only afraid of people like you who appear to have been turned into a bunch of trained gullible seals. I am sure glad that I am not living in your brainwashed world. You and so many others like you are a hazard and a danger to my life and my freedoms, and not some fake and phony exercise plandemic. When you have visited the many websites that I have posted here who have been trying to inform us all to try and get the other side of the story then I will listen to what you have to say. But until then, it is you that appears to need plenty of counselling and lots of it.

There are more people that die from the common seasonal flu every year than will ever die from this phony plandemic virus. Just this constant brainwashing over and over and over again 24 hours a day on bull chit TV should tell you that there has to be something else going on here. Do you honestly believe that we should be told over and over again that we must wash our hands, stay indoors, and when outside practice social distancing or what some like to call it social engineering? Isn't a few times a day enough? But if If you enjoy listening to the same old bull chit over and over again, well you will one day make a great communist comrade and then you will get all the brainwashing that you want and need. A hammer and sickle salute to you. 

You don't have to be afraid of me.  Unless you support Huddersfield Town.  And even then, I don't know where you live.

You should be more afraid of those who have brainwashed you into thinking COVID-19 is no worse than the seasonal flu.  It's gonna take an army of cult deprogrammers to extricate you from their evil clutches.  You may never be the same again.

[Argus]

1 hour ago, Shady said:

We actually don’t really know if it’s all that more deadly than the flu.

We DO know it's more deadly than the flu. And saying "Well, it's not the virus, it's the side effects it causes' makes no nevermind.

Do you remember a bad flu year where hospitals were overrun and every province, state and country was desperately looking for ventilators and masks and gowns and gloves? Because I don't.

[taxme]

4 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

You don't have to be afraid of me.  Unless you support Huddersfield Town.  And even then, I don't know where you live.

You should be more afraid of those who have brainwashed you into thinking COVID-19 is no worse than the seasonal flu.  It's gonna take an army of cult deprogrammers to extricate you from their evil clutches.  You may never be the same again.

I am just loving all the brainwashing that I am getting from those other alternative news websites. I am now able to use plenty more common sense and logic, rather than showing all the signs of being very emotional and talk silly talk politically correct bull shit that you are being brainwashed with. You see I have listened to both sides of the story where you refuse to do so and I have now been deprogrammed from your crap that you always enjoy listening too. I am free, I am free. it sure feels great, man. Lol. 

So, you have nothing to really offer here but just more bs brainwashing to try and convince smart and intelligent people like me to listen to your silly ass nonsense. There has not been one single person that I know of that has got this big bad scary virus. Not that I am bragging, chuckle-chuckle, but I do know plenty of people and they are all just feeling fine. But you I am not sure about that. Check for a fever, will you? But I will bet that you know plenty of people who did get this phony virus, right? 

The only thing that I can be sure of is that I will never be able to do quite the same things again because of people like you who have now pretty much ruined the good life that I had and I have to settle with the loss of my freedom and my right to assembly. You are not only practicing social distancing but you are also practicing social engineering. Way the go, fella. 

[SpankyMcFarland]

1 hour ago, Shady said:

New York is using it, and having significant positive results.

Let’s hope it works. 

[Shady]

22 minutes ago, Argus said:

We DO know it's more deadly than the flu. And saying "Well, it's not the virus, it's the side effects it causes' makes no nevermind.

Do you remember a bad flu year where hospitals were overrun and every province, state and country was desperately looking for ventilators and masks and gowns and gloves? Because I don't.

I don’t remember them, because we have flu vaccines, and high risk people get flu shots every season.  That’s why hospitals aren’t overrun.  And even with that, thousands of people die every flu season from the flu. 

Coronavirus death rate may be lower than previously thought

0.66% mortality rate.

https://www.livescience.com/death-rate-lower-than-estimates.html

Edited April 7, 2020 by Shady

[taxme]

19 minutes ago, Argus said:

We DO know it's more deadly than the flu. And saying "Well, it's not the virus, it's the side effects it causes' makes no nevermind.

Do you remember a bad flu year where hospitals were overrun and every province, state and country was desperately looking for ventilators and masks and gowns and gloves? Because I don't.

Man, would I ever like to be one of those companies that are making those products you mentioned above. Those companies are going to make plenty of money just like some predicted that some people will be doing which is making some people plenty of money off this so called virus. I guess at the time back then no one thought of trying to create a false plandemic.

But carry on Mr. Fear and Panic man. I hope that you have all of those products that you mentioned above in your grandparents basement just in case you get the seasonal flu bug. LoL. 

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, taxme said:

I am just loving all the brainwashing that I am getting from those other alternative news websites. I am now able to use plenty more common sense and logic, rather than showing all the signs of being very emotional and talk silly talk politically correct bull shit that you are being brainwashed with. You see I have listened to both sides of the story where you refuse to do so and I have now been deprogrammed from your crap that you always enjoy listening too. I am free, I am free. it sure feels great, man. Lol. 

So, you have nothing to really offer here but just more bs brainwashing to try and convince smart and intelligent people like me to listen to your silly ass nonsense. There has not been one single person that I know of that has got this big bad scary virus. Not that I am bragging, chuckle-chuckle, but I do know plenty of people and they are all just feeling fine. But you I am not sure about that. Check for a fever, will you? But I will bet that you know plenty of people who did get this phony virus, right? 

The only thing that I can be sure of is that I will never be able to do quite the same things again because of people like you who have now pretty much ruined the good life that I had and I have to settle with the loss of my freedom and my right to assembly. You are not only practicing social distancing but you are also practicing social engineering. Way the go, fella. 

Not one person you know of, eh?  Why the hell didn't you say so? 

I'm going shopping, then I'm off to the bar.

[taxme]

5 minutes ago, Shady said:

I don’t remember them, because we have flu vaccines, and high risk people get flu shots every season.  That’s why hospitals aren’t overrun.  And even with that, thousands of people die every flu season from the flu. 

Coronavirus death rate may be lower than previously thought

0.66% mortality rate.

https://www.livescience.com/death-rate-lower-than-estimates.html

Today, pretty much everybody that are dying today are being lumped in with this so called seasonal flu bug virus deaths. Pneumonia deaths have dropped while the China virus has risen. Just a coincidence, right?