Panic, Ignorance, Shut Up Already

[Yzermandius19]

11 minutes ago, ProudConservative said:

But I don't see the government being this incompetent.

Your faith in the competence of government is misguided, especially the Chinese Communist Government. It is very easy to see the government being that incompetent, especially when it's China.

Edited March 20, 2020 by Yzermandius19

[Guest ProudConservative]

Just now, Dougie93 said:

All the other politicians in Canada are basically the same, so it's a wash

You;'re right... I didn't even see Maxime Bernier warning Canadians about the pandemic... We was completely focused on the native blockades... Which could of been an engineered distraction, by the same puppet masters, scripting the repose to the Covid-19 disaster.

[Yzermandius19]

You may want to live in a world where government can't possibly be that incompetent, but you do not live in such a world. Humans are not as competent as you seem to think they are, and that goes double for their governments.

[Guest ProudConservative]

4 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Your faith in the competence of government is misguided, especially the Chinese Communist Government. It is very easy to see the government being that incompetent, especially when it's China.

I don't think they're that stupid, and you watch... if you want real proof of a conspiracy... see how many of our politicians die from covid-19? My guess is that the chosen few have been inoculated against this virus.

Edited March 20, 2020 by ProudConservative

[Yzermandius19]

17 minutes ago, ProudConservative said:

I don't think they're that stupid.

Wishful thinking is helluva drug, they are that stupid. Hell they are probably even dumber than I think, I'm probably giving them too much credit in the competence department and you definitely are.

You have a penchant for believing in unlikely vast conspiracies over likely human incompetence. You seem to think are way smarter than actually are, and that their governments are far more effective than they actually are.

You'd rather believe governments have control over things and are out to fuck everyone over than they don't have control over things and their lack of competence is what produces the negative results. You want the world to be less chaotic than it really is, so you see order where there is none, because it helps you sleep at night.

You want to believe that if governments just had good intentions, everything would work out, and if it doesn't work out, that means they simply have bad intentions. Intentions usually aren't the issue though, as the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Edited March 20, 2020 by Yzermandius19

[cougar]

200 some sick people in BC and it feels like we are at war with Viet-Nam or some other nation.  Empty shelves, people with masks driving in their cars in a city with 0 cases; no hairdressers, no restaurants, no flights, no nothing!

Seems like our system was pretty fragile.

[Dougie93]

Works out great for me, my wife is working from home so I'm getting pampered

[Guest ProudConservative]

I think they're more corrupt, but not stupid. If the average Canadian could figure out the threat in January, our government had to of know something.

[Guest ProudConservative]

1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

Works out great for me, my wife is working from home so I'm getting pampered

You keep saying amazing things about your wife, any change you get. Someone out to get a hold of your wife, and tell her how much you love her. You seem solid as a rock, in you're commitment. It's a rare find these days.

[Guest ProudConservative]

15 minutes ago, cougar said:

200 some sick people in BC and it feels like we are at war with Viet-Nam or some other nation.  Empty shelves, people with masks driving in their cars in a city with 0 cases; no hairdressers, no restaurants, no flights, no nothing!

Seems like our system was pretty fragile.

This pandemic is not worth a great depression. I'm reaching the point where they should instruct everyone to make homemade masks, and go to work. For all we know this is an engineered collapse, and Trump has no choices. Everyone accuses me of saying this is a bio-weapon, well out leaders are sure behaving like it's a bio-weapon. Are we really good to take 20% unemployment, and 35% youth unemployment... just to save some boomers?

Is this a bio-weapon? It's time for the government to give us some straight answers.

If you allow this to descend into a great depression, you will harm more young people, than the old people who have a few years left to live anyways.

Edited March 20, 2020 by ProudConservative

[Yzermandius19]

9 minutes ago, ProudConservative said:

I think they're more corrupt, but not stupid. If the average Canadian could figure out the threat in January, our government had to of know something.

They are corrupt and stupid. You simply think far too highly of humans and their governments level of intelligence, and give far too much credit to corruption and not enough credit to stupidity.

You would prefer to live in world where they are corrupt and smart instead of a world where they are corrupt and stupid, but wishful thinking does not alter reality.

Edited March 20, 2020 by Yzermandius19

[bush_cheney2004]

2 minutes ago, ProudConservative said:

This pandemic is not worth a great depression. I'm reaching the point where they should instruct everyone to make homemade masks, and go to work. For all we know this is an engineered collapse, and Trump has no choices. Everyone accuses me of saying this is a bioweapon, well out leaders are sure behaving like it's a bioweapon.

 

Has nothing to do with Trump.   Not sure what you mean here.

[Guest ProudConservative]

4 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Has nothing to do with Trump.   Not sure what you mean here.

I mean that they have left Trump with no good choices, but the stock market has crashed too fast. We're entering dangerous territory, and it could be far worse, than a few million lives lost. Governments need to be straight forward about the trade-offs, so society can make an informed choice.

Edited March 20, 2020 by ProudConservative

[cougar]

6 minutes ago, ProudConservative said:

If you allow this to descend into a great depression, you will harm more young people, than the old people who have a few years left to live anyways.

I am afraid our system will collapse completely and we can start killing one another over food, once the supply chains are disrupted.   There have been fights in stores over toilet paper already.  EI and money from the government helps nothing.  People still need to go to work and produce.

[bush_cheney2004]

1 minute ago, ProudConservative said:

I mean that they have left Trump with no good choices, but the stock market has crashed too fast. We're entering dangerous territory, and it could be far worse, than a few million lives lost.

 

Trump is just another U.S. president and his political fate will be like all the rest....good times or bad.

Trump does not have the burden of leading Canadian or other world markets back to prosperity.   He actually imposed tariffs to hurt and leverage other nations into seeing things his way (anti-globalism, protectionism, IP theft, etc.)

Trump is responsible for America...Canada has its own leadership (Trudeau ? ).

[Guest ProudConservative]

What I would do, is have a 14 day work week, followed by 7 days off. After 7 days, most people show symptoms... you have those people stay at home for 14 days....

You run the economy straight for 14 days... to keep even thing intact... then give people 7 days off... to figure out who's sick, and who isn't.

If we did 3 or 4 rounds like that... we could kill the virus.

[Dougie93]

14 minutes ago, ProudConservative said:

You keep saying amazing things about your wife, any change you get. Someone out to get a hold of your wife, and tell her how much you love her. You seem solid as a rock, in you're commitment. It's a rare find these days.

Oh I'm a lucky guy, no doubt, but this disaster thing has her spooked, yet I had everything prepped for it,  so now I'm getting extra spoiled beyond even the levels of spoiled rotten which I normally enjoy

Edited March 20, 2020 by Dougie93

[bush_cheney2004]

Just now, ProudConservative said:

What I would do, is have a 14 day work week, followed by 7 days off. After 7 days, most people show symptoms... you have those people stay at home for 14 days....

You run the economy straight for 14 days... to keep even thing intact... then give people 7 days off... to figure out who's sick, and who isn't.

If we did 3 or 4 rounds like that... we could kill the virus.

 

Well, that is creative thinking and one way to stop the cure from being worse than the disease.

But it won't work across the board.

[Guest ProudConservative]

Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:

Well, that is creative thinking and one way to stop the cure from being worse than the disease.

But it won't work across the board.

The problem is... no one would go shopping, and support the service industry... during that time.

People wouldn't have to be told... to give up their fears... and support the economy.

[Guest ProudConservative]

If scientist, could only figure out how to give everyone a controlled infection or the virus... it might be far less deadly.

Prehaps a low dose of the real virus in the arm... so it doesn't find it's way in the lungs first.

Don't they have the technology to weaken viruses, so they're not as dangerous.

I also heard... they can shoot dead viruses into your body... that don't replicate... you produce antibodies from them.

If large doses are dangerous... Give people 10 shots, and have them store it in their fridge... and Do one shot... every 3 days for 21 days.

Edited March 20, 2020 by ProudConservative

[cougar]

1 minute ago, ProudConservative said:

People wouldn't have to be told... to give up their fears... and support the economy.

How do you support an economy that is at a standstill and will not start to produce?    Buying only depletes the supplies.

[bush_cheney2004]

Just now, ProudConservative said:

The problem is... no one would go shopping, and support the service industry... during that time.

People wouldn't have to be told... to give up their fears... and support the economy.

 

There is already pushback and a degree of non-compliance.   Some people will never limit their activities and habits regardless of the risks.   Hell, millions of people still smoke cigarettes !

During 'Nam, we would have to destroy a village to "save" it from the commies.   That won't work for western nations and economies.

[Guest ProudConservative]

3 minutes ago, cougar said:

How do you support an economy that is at a standstill and will not start to produce?    Buying only depletes the supplies.

You start in the factories first.

[Dougie93]

If I was in my twenties I would be ignoring it, but this doesn't crimp my lifestyle now that I'm in my fifties

[Guest ProudConservative]

3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

There is already pushback and a degree of non-compliance.   Some people will never limit their activities and habits regardless of the risks.   Hell, millions of people still smoke cigarettes !

During 'Nam, we would have to destroy a village to "save" it from the commies.   That won't work for western nations and economies.

which we kind of need.

One theory the had... was to let the young people support the economy, and get infected first... once they get immunity... your work up to larger age groups... when you get to the oldest people, you're close to heard immunity.