WestCanMan Posted September 4, 2020 Report Posted September 4, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Argus said: You mean the fact they caught them fairly easily? 18,600 charges for Breaking and Entering are filed every year. That seems like a lot, but there are 160,000 B&E's. The moral of the story is that just because some people get caught doesn't mean that there aren't 10x as many people getting away with it. I can't read that article, it's behind the NYT's paywall and I don't give money to terrorists or their sympathizers. Just out of curiosity: -How many people were charged, and for trying to affect how many extra votes? -Did their scam have a chance of working? -Would their scam even have been worth trying if they had to show up at a polling station with ID? -What penalty are they facing? Is it the kind of sentence that would deter a career criminal/welfare type, or would it just deter working people and business owners who have jobs and a credit rating that they can't afford to lose? IE, is this something that Dem voters can afford to get caught doing but GOP voters can't? Edited September 4, 2020 by WestCanMan Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
WestCanMan Posted September 4, 2020 Report Posted September 4, 2020 6 hours ago, Infidel Dog said: Shttps://www.foxnews.com/opinion/vote-fraud-trump-deroy-murdock https://noqreport.com/2020/06/28/caught-on-camera-postal-worker-dumped-gop-candidates-mailers-in-dumpster/ https://noqreport.com/2020/07/13/20000-mail-in-ballots-in-ny-may-be-disqualified-because-of-post-office-overload/ You're using logic and facts on people who see no relevance in such things. Various forms of the quote: "Mail-in ballots are infallible! Anyone who thinks otherwise is a joke!" are the answer to everything you say. You could show those guys a high-def video of Schiff & Pelosi mass-printing ballots with the Biden box already checked off and these guys would say "Look, they got caught! This is 100% proof that mail-in voting is 100% secure!" 2 hours ago, Argus said: Oddly, the only evidence of an organized voter fraud of this type happened in North Carolina. Guess who did it? You mean, "They only found evidence of this once, but it could have happened hundreds of times because it's a fairly easy crime to get away with". Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
Argus Posted September 4, 2020 Report Posted September 4, 2020 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: You mean, "They only found evidence of this once, but it could have happened hundreds of times because it's a fairly easy crime to get away with". It 'could' have happened hundreds of times. Right. Sure. Why not say thousands, or millions or billions while you're at it? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
WestCanMan Posted September 5, 2020 Report Posted September 5, 2020 16 minutes ago, Argus said: It 'could' have happened hundreds of times. Right. Sure. Why not say thousands, or millions or billions while you're at it? I'm not here being a jackass, or to misrepresent anything, I'm stating an obvious truth. Just because only 1 or two groups got caught does not mean "every single person or group that tried a mail-in ballot scam got busted" and you shouldn't be insinuating as much. There's ample proof that several different types of scams are occurring, and there's no way to prove that none have been successful. There's a zero percent chance of that. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
Infidel Dog Posted September 5, 2020 Report Posted September 5, 2020 7 hours ago, Argus said: Really? Did he not tell them to go to the poll, ask if they had a record of their vote, and then vote if they didn't? Because the poll workers would often not have such records and absentee ballots are often not counted until after the election anyway. Which means if they voted at the poll and then their absentee ballot was checked they'd be arrested. Not so? You and Trump have a different opinion on what's legal but more specifically here's what he said without the editorializing, in a series of Tweets: Quote Based on the massive number of Unsolicited & Solicited Ballots that will be sent to potential Voters for the upcoming 2020 Election, & in order for you to MAKE SURE YOUR VOTE COUNTS & IS COUNTED, SIGN & MAIL IN your Ballot as EARLY as possible. On Election Day, or Early Voting,.. …..go to your Polling Place to see whether or not your Mail In Vote has been Tabulated (Counted). If it has you will not be able to Vote & the Mail In System worked properly. If it has not been Counted, VOTE (which is a citizen’s right to do). If your Mail In Ballot arrives…. ….after you Vote, which it should not, that Ballot will not be used or counted in that your vote has already been cast & tabulated. YOU ARE NOW ASSURED THAT YOUR PRECIOUS VOTE HAS BEEN COUNTED, it hasn’t been “lost, thrown out, or in any way destroyed”. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!! https://noqreport.com/2020/09/03/trump-tweet-censored-as-he-gets-leftists-to-talk-about-mail-in-ballot-voter-fraud/ And let's be clear what you actually, originally claimed. What I questioned was you saying Trump told people "to try to vote twice." So no, he didn't do that. Interesting though that you seem to believe it would be possible to commit voter fraud with mail-in voting. That's something you and the President agree on anyway. 1 Quote
Argus Posted September 5, 2020 Report Posted September 5, 2020 9 hours ago, Infidel Dog said: You and Trump have a different opinion on what's legal but more specifically here's what he said without the editorializing, in a series of Tweets: https://noqreport.com/2020/09/03/trump-tweet-censored-as-he-gets-leftists-to-talk-about-mail-in-ballot-voter-fraud/ And let's be clear what you actually, originally claimed. What I questioned was you saying Trump told people "to try to vote twice." So no, he didn't do that. Interesting though that you seem to believe it would be possible to commit voter fraud with mail-in voting. That's something you and the President agree on anyway. Much of the way voter fraud is detected is after the fact. Always has been. Cheating on your taxes is the same way. You put in what you want, and they take your word for it. If your tax return calls for a fat refund, you get the refund. Then a little ways later you get a letter telling you your taxes have been 'reassessed' and you owe them a ton of cash. Ballots are not all counted immediately. Mail-in ballots are certainly not all going to have been counted and registered before the end of day on voting day. Especially those only mailed in a few days earlier. Anyone with more than half a brain knows that. And I thought the great fear was about people taking their ballots, changing them, and submitting them with a different vote. If that's the fear than even if it was registered they'd be told 'yes', their vote was counted. Now suddenly the fear is what? That mail-in ballots will be thrown away, sight unseen? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted September 5, 2020 Report Posted September 5, 2020 Trump's attitude is not endearing him to military people or veterans, despite these groups usually being strongly Republican. The race for the presidency in a country that has elected 26 military veterans to that office, half of them generals, is being roiled by reports that the current commander-in-chief – who was exempted from Vietnam-era service by a controversial bone spur diagnosis – has repeatedly disparaged American war dead as “losers” and “suckers.” The remarks attributed to President Donald Trump have become an instant campaign issue, with Democratic nominee Joe Biden saying the President’s soul was “that of a coward.” Speaking of his late son, Beau, who was awarded the Bronze Star Medal for his service in Iraq, Mr. Biden asserted, “My son wasn’t a sucker.’' https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/us-politics/article-trumps-disputed-remarks-on-us-war-dead-become-election-issue/ Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
WestCanMan Posted September 5, 2020 Report Posted September 5, 2020 29 minutes ago, Argus said: Trump's attitude is not endearing him to military people or veterans, despite these groups usually being strongly Republican. The race for the presidency in a country that has elected 26 military veterans to that office, half of them generals, is being roiled by reports that the current commander-in-chief – who was exempted from Vietnam-era service by a controversial bone spur diagnosis – has repeatedly disparaged American war dead as “losers” and “suckers.” The remarks attributed to President Donald Trump have become an instant campaign issue, with Democratic nominee Joe Biden saying the President’s soul was “that of a coward.” Speaking of his late son, Beau, who was awarded the Bronze Star Medal for his service in Iraq, Mr. Biden asserted, “My son wasn’t a sucker.’' https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/us-politics/article-trumps-disputed-remarks-on-us-war-dead-become-election-issue/ Once again you were totally sucked in by fake news Argus, that story has been completely debunked from every angle. It was just more outright lies from the exact same MSM that has lied about every other politically-charged story of the past 4 years, but go ahead and keep trying to kick that football Charlie Brown. Given your penchant for swallowing leftist articles from known liars whole it just blows my mind that you're not a googly-eyed, drooling Trudeau sycophant. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
WestCanMan Posted September 5, 2020 Report Posted September 5, 2020 41 minutes ago, Argus said: Much of the way voter fraud is detected is after the fact. Always has been. Cheating on your taxes is the same way. You put in what you want, and they take your word for it. If your tax return calls for a fat refund, you get the refund. Then a little ways later you get a letter telling you your taxes have been 'reassessed' and you owe them a ton of cash. Ballots are not all counted immediately. Mail-in ballots are certainly not all going to have been counted and registered before the end of day on voting day. Especially those only mailed in a few days earlier. Anyone with more than half a brain knows that. And I thought the great fear was about people taking their ballots, changing them, and submitting them with a different vote. If that's the fear than even if it was registered they'd be told 'yes', their vote was counted. Now suddenly the fear is what? That mail-in ballots will be thrown away, sight unseen? What you're intentionally ignorant of is the fact that showing up at a polling booth with government-issued ID is by far the most secure polling policy. There are many, many ways to scam an election that's done via mail and if you Google them they don't show up. Instead you get a slew of articles laughing about how idiotic it is to think that mail-in elections can be scammed, or fake proof that they are infallible. Even if I didn't tell you how many scams can be run with mail-in ballots, you should have instantly seen through it for yourself. The fact that you just toe the Dem party line and refuse to use common sense, to think for yourself or to at least have an open mind to all the evidence that's coming in speaks to a disturbing closed-mindedness. You should be more alarmed and less of a useful idiot Argus. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
Infidel Dog Posted September 5, 2020 Report Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Argus said: Much of the way voter fraud is detected is after the fact. Always has been. Cheating on your taxes is the same way. You put in what you want, and they take your word for it. If your tax return calls for a fat refund, you get the refund. Then a little ways later you get a letter telling you your taxes have been 'reassessed' and you owe them a ton of cash. Ballots are not all counted immediately. Mail-in ballots are certainly not all going to have been counted and registered before the end of day on voting day. Especially those only mailed in a few days earlier. Anyone with more than half a brain knows that. And I thought the great fear was about people taking their ballots, changing them, and submitting them with a different vote. If that's the fear than even if it was registered they'd be told 'yes', their vote was counted. Now suddenly the fear is what? That mail-in ballots will be thrown away, sight unseen? There's a theory that the calls this last week from the Clintons and other Democrats to never accept the results of the election if it doesn't turn out the way they want is part of the strategy of creating chaos with late tabulation from mass "mail-out" voting. Edited September 5, 2020 by Infidel Dog Quote
Guest Posted September 5, 2020 Report Posted September 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Once again you were totally sucked in by fake news Argus, that story has been completely debunked from every angle. It was just more outright lies from the exact same MSM that has lied about every other politically-charged story of the past 4 years, but go ahead and keep trying to kick that football Charlie Brown. Given your penchant for swallowing leftist articles from known liars whole it just blows my mind that you're not a googly-eyed, drooling Trudeau sycophant. It sure doesn't look like it's been completely debunked from every angle. I have to admit that when I first heard it I thought, surely no-one could be that stupid? Then I remembered who it was. Quote
OftenWrong Posted September 5, 2020 Report Posted September 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, bcsapper said: I have to admit that when I first heard it I thought, surely no-one could be that stupid? Then I remembered who it was. Truly an award winning deduction... Quote
OftenWrong Posted September 5, 2020 Report Posted September 5, 2020 58 minutes ago, Argus said: Trump's attitude is not endearing him to military people or veterans, despite these groups usually being strongly Republican. There's different power connections all to do with money, anyway. Mitt Romney When I heard this, it was from undisclosed sources. But that was few days ago... wondering, has anyone who was there substantiated this? Because we certainly don't need another media tizzy over unsubstantiated claims. Can't even remember how many of them there've been with this guy by now. Enough is enough. Quote
Infidel Dog Posted September 5, 2020 Report Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said: There's a theory that the calls this last week from the Clintons and other Democrats to never accept the results of the election if it doesn't turn out the way they want is part of the strategy of creating chaos with late tabulation from mass "mail-out" voting. On the other hand Soros and his little band of useful idiots are ready if the opposite happens: Quote A bipartisan group of about 80 political operatives and academics has been involved in discussions about what could happen if President Donald Trump were to lose the November election and then contest the results, potentially refusing to leave the White House. Quote https://www.newsweek.com/bipartisan-group-predicts-violence-if-trump-loses-election-refuses-leave-white-house-1520561 Either way they create the chaos with mass "mail-out" voting then gain advantage from the bedlam: Quote Revolver believes that this TIP group may be the organization tasked with fomenting a color revolution to get President Trump out of office regardless of the results of November’s election. They compared Brooks’ recent Washington Post op/ed with The Democracy Playbook, a guide to color revolutions published by the globalist Brookings Institution. They concluded that TIP is about creating a self-fulfilling prophecy that keeps Trump from a second presidential term regardless of what the American people decide. Big League Politics has reported about how Biden is being encouraged not to concede to Trump under any circumstances by Hillary Clinton, as Democrats once again engage in the behavior they are accusing Trump of committing: Failed presidential candidate Hillary Clinton is urging Joe Biden to be a sore loser and make the election in November as grueling and agonizing as it can be. Clinton does not believe that Biden should do what’s best for the country. If he is losing on election night, she implores him to keep the fight going even if it means tearing the nation apart at its seams. https://bigleaguepolitics.com/coup-soros-backed-election-integrity-group-sets-stage-to-oust-president-trump-regardless-of-voting-results/ Edited September 5, 2020 by Infidel Dog Quote
Infidel Dog Posted September 5, 2020 Report Posted September 5, 2020 And in case we still don't get the danger here, here's something to think about: Quote Republicans have always seemed remarkably flaccid in their response to these “lost” and “found” votes always being cast for the Democrat. As Angelo M. Codevilla warned: “Consider the 2020 election. In July, the Democratic National Committee engaged some 600 lawyers to litigate the outcome, possibly in every state. No particular outcome of such litigations is needed to set off a systemic crisis. The existence of the litigations themselves is enough for one or more blue state governors to refuse to certify that state’s electors to the Electoral College, so as to prevent the college from recording a majority of votes for the winner. In case no winner could be confirmed by January’s Inauguration Day, the 20th Amendment provides that Congress would elect the next president. Who doubts that, were Donald Trump the apparent winner, and were Congress in Democratic hands, that this would be likelier than not to happen?” https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/09/the_dems_plan_to_steal_the_presidency.html The danger is a legalized coup. Quote
-TSS- Posted September 5, 2020 Report Posted September 5, 2020 That is total bullshit that if Trump loses he would barricade himself in the White House and refuse to leave. Stuff like that happens in some African or Central-American banana republics but not in any developed western country. 1 Quote
Shady Posted September 5, 2020 Report Posted September 5, 2020 The Never Trumpers will ignore this too. Quote
Argus Posted September 5, 2020 Report Posted September 5, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Once again you were totally sucked in by fake news Argus, that story has been completely debunked from every angle. It hasn't been debunked AT ALL. You're just making shit up. Even a FOX news reporter says they can confirm key parts of the story. And she isn't the only one AP has also confirmed it with sources. https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-news/fox-news-reporter-confirmed-atlantics-story-about-trump-insulting-fallen-troops-fox-hosts Edited September 5, 2020 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Cannucklehead Posted September 5, 2020 Report Posted September 5, 2020 The only thing that would surprise me more than this is trump coming out and admitting it. Its exactly in his character. When it comes down to it trump is a massive narcissist, it should be obvious to everyone. Quote
Argus Posted September 5, 2020 Report Posted September 5, 2020 "Donald Trump would never say such things about the military because he's a real patriot who admires and respects the military to no end!" say the Trumpers Found this elsewhere. Trump: called John McCain “a fucking loser” when asked to lower flags to half staff. called President George H.W. Bush a loser for being shot down during WWII. said “I don’t get it. What was in it for them?” To Gen. John Kelly — while visiting Kelly’s son’s grave at Arlington. “That guy is smart. Why did he join the military?” re: Joint Chiefs of Staff, he said asked his staff to not include wounded veterans in events because amputees make him uncomfortable. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/ Trump defended Russia from arming the Taliban against US Troops, saying the US did that once https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-appears-to-defend-russia-arming-the-taliban-against-us-troops Trump knew since Mar 2020 that Russia paid bounties to kill American troops, yet he has done nothing. he was briefed on options such as sanctions yet his admin has taken no action against Russia for paying bounties for killing American and NATO troops. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/26/us/politics/russia-afghanistan-bounties.html In May 2020, the White House was planning to end National Guard deployments one day before they could claim benefits, but after the massive public outcry, they backtracked and let Guard members continue on their orders. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/20/trump-administration-extending-national-guard-deployments-272156 The Trump admin seized 5 million masks intended for VA hospitals. Kushner distributes these masks to private entities for a fee, who then sells the masks to the government https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-admin-seizing-ppe/ https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/06/us/politics/coronavirus-fema-medical-supplies.html Trump's admin fired the captain of the USS Theodore Roosevelt after he warned superiors that COVID19 was spreading among his crew. The virus subsequently spread amongst the crew. https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/02/826317152/uss-roosevelt-commander-removed-after-criticizing-handling-of-coronavirus-outbre After Iran's retaliatory strike, 109 US troops suffered brain injuries. Trump dismissed these as "headaches" https://apnews.com/eabf6766d717a2dd518a3c6319bb2430 https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/22/world/middleeast/trump-iraq-brain-injuries.html Pardoned multiple war criminals, which stomped on long standing military values, discipline, and command. Trump has no military experience (May&Nov, 2019) https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2019/11/16/trump-grants-clemency-to-troops-in-three-controversial-war-crimes-cases/ https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/16/us/trump-pardon-military.html Trump mocked Lt. Col. Vindman for his rank and uniform. He threatened said purple heart officer, resulting in the Army providing him protection. Sent opposition research to the Pentagon to derail Lt. Col. Vindman's promotion https://www.businessinsider.com/white-house-nsc-dirt-alexander-vindman-allegations-2020-7 https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-gop-slam-vindman-wearing-army-uniform-impeachment-hearing-2019-11 Trump’s Chief of Staff worked—in secret—to deny comprehensive health coverage to Vietnam Vets who suffered from Agent Orange. https://www.militarytimes.com/pay-benefits/2019/10/23/white-house-responsible-for-delayed-decision-on-new-agent-orange-diseases-documents-show/ There is a facility in Tijuana for US veterans that Trump deported. Wounded war vet, Sen Duckworth (D) marked Veterans Day 2019 by visiting this facility https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/deployed-then-deported-how-us-vets-who-served-their-country-get-kicked-out-11390471 Russia took control of the main U.S. military facility in Syria abandoned on Trump’s orders. Russia now owns the airstrip we built https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-security-russia/russia-lands-forces-at-former-u-s-air-base-in-northern-syria-idUSKBN1XP0XN https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/15/world/middleeast/kurds-syria-turkey.html On Oct 7, 2019, Trump abruptly withdrew support from America's allies in Syria after a phone call with Turkey's president (Erdogan). Turkey subsequently bombed US Special Forces. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-administration-to-pull-troops-from-northern- syria-as-turkey-readies-offensive/2019/10/07/a965e466-e8b3-11e9-bafb-da248f8d5734_story.html https://www.npr.org/2019/10/07/767904589/shocking-trump-is-criticized-for-pulling-troops-from-syrian-border In Sept 2019, he made an Air Force cargo crew, flying from the U.S. to Kuwait stop in Scotland (where there's no U.S. base) to refuel at a commercial airport (where it costs more), so they could stay overnight at a Trump property (which isn't close to the airport). Trump’s golf courses are losing money, so he's forcing the military to pay for 5-star nights there. https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2019/09/07/c-17-crew-stops-at-trumps-scottish-golf-resort-en-route-to-kuwait/ https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/06/air-force-trump-scottish-retreat-1484337 In Sept, 2019, Pentagon pulled funds for military schools, military housing funds, and daycare to pay for Trump's border wall. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-pentagon/pentagon-pulls-funds-for-military-schools-daycare-to-pay-for-trumps-border-wall-idUSKCN1VP2VY In Aug, 2019, emails revealed that three of Trump's Mar-a-Lago pals, who are now running Veterans Affairs, are rampant with meddling. "They had no experience in veterans affairs (none of them even served in the military) nor underwent any kind of approval process to serve as de facto managers. Yet, with Trump’s approval, they directed actions and criticized operations without any oversight. They wasted valuable staff time in hundreds of pages of communications and meetings, emails show. Emails reveal disdainful attitudes within the department to the trio’s meddling." https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/25/politics/trump-mar-a-lago-crowd-va-emails/index.html https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/22/digital-health-platform-mar-a-lago-members-1676335 Trump instructed aides to seize private property some of which contain military service member remains. https://apnews.com/ad6f6247154548c3b28db33ae6a5eae9 Trump told officials he would pardon them if they break the law by illegally seizing property. https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-08-28/trump-officials-border-wall-pardon Children of deployed US troops are no longer guaranteed citizenship. This includes US troops posted abroad for years at a time (August 28, 2019) https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019/08/28/children-us-troops-born-overseas-will-no-longer-get-automatic-american-citizenship.html On Aug 2, 2019, Trump requisitioned military retirement funds towards border wall https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/military-retirement-trump-wall/ On July 31, 2019, Trump ordered the Navy rescind medals to prosecutors who were prosecuted war criminals https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2019/07/31/trump-nixes-nams-for-4-prosecutors-tied-to-seal-case/ https://www.npr.org/2019/08/01/747144221/navy-rescinds-awards-to-prosecutors-in-case-of-seal-acquitted-of-murdering-capti Trump denied a U.S. Marine of 6 years entry into the United States for his citizenship interview (Reported July 17, 2019) https://thehill.com/homenews/news/453225-marine-corps-veteran-denied-entry-to-us-for-citizenship-interview https://www.pri.org/stories/2019-07-17/marine-vet-denied-entry-us-scheduled-citizenship-interview Trump made the U.S. Navy Blue Angels violate ethics rules by having them fly at his July 4th political campaign event (July 4, 2019) https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-office-presidency-2020-reelection-20190703-story.html https://www.npr.org/2019/07/03/738139123/on-july-4-trump-could-continue-pattern-of-politics-in-unexpected-places https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/07/trump-july-fourth-rally-hatch-act-violation.html Trump demanded US military chiefs stand next to him at 4th of July parade (reported July 2, 2019) https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/trump-demands-us-military-chiefs-stand-next-to-him-at-4th-of-july-parade/ar-AADJGbc In June, 2019, Trump sent troops to the border to paint the fence https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019/06/06/active-duty-troops-spend-month-painting-border-wall.html 6.5k User avatar level 2 victorvictor1 1 day ago · edited 21 hours ago PlatinumStarry2Gold8Bravo! continued Trump used his D-Day interview at a cemetery commemorating fallen US soldiers to attack a Vietnam veteran (June 6, 2019) https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-says-mueller-made-such-a-fool-of-himself-in-last-weeks-public-appearance/2019/06/06/96dd8f9c-885f-11e9-a491-25df61c78dc4_story.html Trump made his 2nd wife, Marla Maples, sign a prenup that would have cut off all child support if Tiffany joined the military (reported June 4th, 2019) https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-prenup-melania-everything-we-know-2019-4#the-agreement-also-stipulated-that-trump-would-stop-the-100000-child-support-payments-for-maples-young-daughter-tiffany-when-she-turned-21-or-if-she-got-a-full-time-job-enlisted-in-the-military-or-joined-the-peace-corps-11 On May 27, 2019, Trump turned away US military from his Memorial Day speech because they were from the destroyer USS John S. McCain https://www.businessinsider.com/uss-john-mccain-sailors-were-turned-away-from-trump-speech-2019-5 Trump ordered the USS John McCain out of sight during his visit to Japan (May 15, 2019). The ship's name was subsequently covered. (May 27, 2019) https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/446076-white-house-asked-for-uss-john-mccain-to-be-out-of-sight-during Trump's admin did nothing to fix the purge of 200,000 vets' healthcare applications (due to known administrative errors within VA’s enrollment system) even after a congressional testimony to point out the problem. (reported on May 13, 2019) https://www.snopes.com/news/2019/06/07/trump-admin-va-applications/ Under Trump's Admin, ICE deported a spouse of fallen Army soldier killed in Afghanistan, leaving their daughter parentless (April 16, 2019) https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/immigration/2019/04/15/ice-deports-gonzalez-spouse-u-s-soldier-killed-afghanistan/3477332002/ On March 20, 2019, Trump complained that a deceased war hero didn't thank him for his funeral https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47642335 Between 12/22/2018, and 1/25/2019, Trump refused to sign his party's funding bill, which shut down the government, forcing the Coast Guard to go without pay, which made service members rely on food pantries. and the generosity of private businesses like USAA and Navy Federal to cover their paychecks. However, his appointees got a $10,000 pay raise https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/trump-continues-retreat-on-government-shutdown-threat-pledges-to-renew-border-control-battle-in-2019/2018/12/20/3143a752-0457-11e9-b6a9-0aa5c2fcc9e4_story.html https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/01/trump-appointees-giant-raises-during-shutdown He banned service members from serving based on gender identity (1/22/2019) https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/13/us/transgender-troops-ban.html He tried to denied female troops access to birth control to limit sexual activity (on-going. Published Jan 18, 2019) https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/14/us/politics/court-trump-birth-control.html He tried to deport a marine vet who is a U.S.-born citizen (Jan 16, 2019) https://www.npr.org/2019/01/17/686188335/ice-tried-to-deport-this-u-s-citizen-and-marine-veteran When a man was caught swindling veterans pensions for high-interest “cash advances," Trump's Consumer Financial Protection Bureau fined him $1 (Jan 26, 2019) https://theintercept.com/2019/01/26/cfpb-mulvaney-discount/ He called a retired general a 'dog' with a 'big, dumb mouth' (Jan 1, 2019) https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/01/trump-mcchrystal-syria-troops-1077365 He increased privatization of the VA, leading to longer waits and higher taxpayer cost (2018) https://psmag.com/social-justice/privatizing-the-v-a-is-not-cheap https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-administration-plots-costly-private-care-expansion-for-veterans He revealed a covert Seal Team 5 deployment, including names and faces, on Twitter during his visit to Iraq (Dec 26, 2018) https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-s-reveal-seal-team-iraq-could-endanger-its-members-n952521 Trump lied to deployed troops that he gave them a 10% raise (12/26/2018). https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2018/12/27/in-iraq-visit-trump-makes-false-claim-about-military-pay-again/ He tried giving the military a raise that was lower than the standard living adjustment. Congress told him that idea wasn't going to work. Then after giving them the raise that Congress made him, he lied about it pretending that it was larger than Obama's. It wasn't. He fired service members living with HIV just before the 2018 holidays https://time.com/5485126/lawsuit-air-force-discharge-hiv-positive-members/ https://www.lambdalegal.org/news/va_20181219_trump-quietly-starts-firing-service-members-living-with-hiv He tried to slash disability and unemployment benefits for Veterans to $0, and eliminate the unemployability extrascheduler rating (Dec 17, 2018) This means disabled veterans could have seen their annual disability benefits fall from around $35,000 to around $13,000 under Donald Trump's budget proposal to cut "individual unemployability" for disabled veterans who were old enough to receive Social Security payments. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-disabled-veterans-cuts/ He called troops on Thanksgiving and told them he's most thankful for himself (Thanksgiving, 2018) https://www.denverpost.com/2018/11/22/trump-troops-thanksgiving/ medical-deferment-from-vietnam/ He urged Florida to not count deployed military votes (Nov 12, 2018) https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-military-votes-florida/ He canceled an Arlington Cemetery visit on Veterans Day due to light rain (Nov 12, 2018) https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/white-house-decision-cancel-veteran-s-cemetery-france-visit-creates-n934796 While in Europe commemorating the end of WWI, he didn't attend the ceremony at a US cemetery due to the rain -- other world leaders went anyway (Nov 10, 2018) https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/10/trump-cancels-ww1-memorial-at-us-cemetery-in-france-due-to-rain-sparking-twitterstorm.html He used troops as a political prop by sending them on a phantom mission to the border and made them miss Thanksgiving with their families (Oct-Dec, 2018) https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/thousands-of-us-troops-celebrating-thanksgiving-at-the-border/2018/11/21/b6987c00-edd4-11e8-9236-bb94154151d2_story.html Trump changed the GI Bill through his Forever GI Act, causing the VA to miss veteran benefits, including housing allowances. This caused many vets to run out of food and rent. (reported October 7, 2018) https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/12/7/18129508/forever-gi-bill-student-veterans-housing-wilkie Trump doubled the rejection rate for veterans requesting family deportation protections (July 5, 2018) https://www.newsweek.com/trump-doubled-rejection-rate-veterans-requesting-family-deportation-1010571 https://www.npr.org/2019/06/27/736362986/trump-wants-to-withdraw-deportation-protections-for-families-of-active-troops Trump deported active-duty spouses (11,800 military families face this problem as of April 2018) https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2018/04/01/as-many-as-11800-military-families-face-deportation-issues-group-says/ He forgot a fallen soldier's name (below) during a call to his pregnant widow, then attacked her the next day (Oct 23-24, 2017) https://www.militarytimes.com/news/2017/10/23/fallen-soldiers-widow-nothing-to-say-to-trump/ He sent commandos into an ambush due to a lack of intel, and sends contractors to pick them up, resulting in a commando being left behind, tortured, and executed. (Trump approved the mission because Bannon told him Obama didn't have the guts to do it) (Oct 4, 2017) https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/02/17/world/africa/niger-ambush-american-soldiers.html https://apnews.com/cb0d6c63f3ed4415a0bd19e98175f792 Doesn't stand during retreat bugle, continues to talk. "What a nice sound that is. Are they playing that for you [Sean Hannity] or me?" He ordered the discharge of active-duty immigrant troops with good records (2017-present) https://www.npr.org/2018/07/09/626773440/u-s-army-is-discharging-immigrant-recruits-who-were-promised-citizenship On Oct 3, 2016, Trump said vets get PTSD because they aren't strong https://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/trump-veterans-ptsd-not-strong-229050 Trump accepted a Purple Heart from a fan at one of his rallies and said: “I always wanted to get the Purple Heart. This was much easier.” (Aug 2, 2016) https://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/trump-purple-heart-226565 If you know how service members receive purple hearts, then you should also realize how absurd it is for trump to say what he did. Trump attacks Gold Star families: Myeshia Johnson (gold star widow), Khan family (gold star parents) etc. (2016-present) https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/31/us/politics/donald-trump-khizr-khan-wife-ghazala.html Trump sent roughly half of funds raised from a Jan 2016 veterans benefit to the Donald J Trump Foundation instead of veterans charities (the foundation has since been ordered shut because of fraud) (Jan, 2016) https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/07/trump-ordered-to-pay-2-million-to-settle-trump-foundation-suit.html Trump said he doesn't consider POWs heroes because they were caught. He said he prefers people who were not caught (July 18, 2015) Trump said having unprotected sex was his own personal Vietnam (1998) ever Trump dodged the draft 5 times by having a doctor diagnose him with bone spurs. https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2019/02/27/trumps-lawyer-no-basis-for-presidents- Want to follow more? r/TrumpHatesTheTroops/ 6.4k Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Shady Posted September 5, 2020 Report Posted September 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Argus said: "Donald Trump would never say such things about the military because he's a real patriot who admires and respects the military to no end!" say the Trumpers Found this elsewhere. Trump: called John McCain “a fucking loser” when asked to lower flags to half staff. called President George H.W. Bush a loser for being shot down during WWII. said “I don’t get it. What was in it for them?” To Gen. John Kelly — while visiting Kelly’s son’s grave at Arlington. “That guy is smart. Why did he join the military?” re: Joint Chiefs of Staff, he said asked his staff to not include wounded veterans in events because amputees make him uncomfortable. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/ Trump defended Russia from arming the Taliban against US Troops, saying the US did that once https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-appears-to-defend-russia-arming-the-taliban-against-us-troops Trump knew since Mar 2020 that Russia paid bounties to kill American troops, yet he has done nothing. he was briefed on options such as sanctions yet his admin has taken no action against Russia for paying bounties for killing American and NATO troops. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/26/us/politics/russia-afghanistan-bounties.html In May 2020, the White House was planning to end National Guard deployments one day before they could claim benefits, but after the massive public outcry, they backtracked and let Guard members continue on their orders. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/20/trump-administration-extending-national-guard-deployments-272156 The Trump admin seized 5 million masks intended for VA hospitals. Kushner distributes these masks to private entities for a fee, who then sells the masks to the government https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-admin-seizing-ppe/ https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/06/us/politics/coronavirus-fema-medical-supplies.html Trump's admin fired the captain of the USS Theodore Roosevelt after he warned superiors that COVID19 was spreading among his crew. The virus subsequently spread amongst the crew. https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/02/826317152/uss-roosevelt-commander-removed-after-criticizing-handling-of-coronavirus-outbre After Iran's retaliatory strike, 109 US troops suffered brain injuries. Trump dismissed these as "headaches" https://apnews.com/eabf6766d717a2dd518a3c6319bb2430 https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/22/world/middleeast/trump-iraq-brain-injuries.html Pardoned multiple war criminals, which stomped on long standing military values, discipline, and command. Trump has no military experience (May&Nov, 2019) https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2019/11/16/trump-grants-clemency-to-troops-in-three-controversial-war-crimes-cases/ https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/16/us/trump-pardon-military.html Trump mocked Lt. Col. Vindman for his rank and uniform. He threatened said purple heart officer, resulting in the Army providing him protection. Sent opposition research to the Pentagon to derail Lt. Col. Vindman's promotion https://www.businessinsider.com/white-house-nsc-dirt-alexander-vindman-allegations-2020-7 https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-gop-slam-vindman-wearing-army-uniform-impeachment-hearing-2019-11 Trump’s Chief of Staff worked—in secret—to deny comprehensive health coverage to Vietnam Vets who suffered from Agent Orange. https://www.militarytimes.com/pay-benefits/2019/10/23/white-house-responsible-for-delayed-decision-on-new-agent-orange-diseases-documents-show/ There is a facility in Tijuana for US veterans that Trump deported. Wounded war vet, Sen Duckworth (D) marked Veterans Day 2019 by visiting this facility https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/deployed-then-deported-how-us-vets-who-served-their-country-get-kicked-out-11390471 Russia took control of the main U.S. military facility in Syria abandoned on Trump’s orders. Russia now owns the airstrip we built https://www.reuters.com/article/us-syria-security-russia/russia-lands-forces-at-former-u-s-air-base-in-northern-syria-idUSKBN1XP0XN https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/15/world/middleeast/kurds-syria-turkey.html On Oct 7, 2019, Trump abruptly withdrew support from America's allies in Syria after a phone call with Turkey's president (Erdogan). Turkey subsequently bombed US Special Forces. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-administration-to-pull-troops-from-northern- syria-as-turkey-readies-offensive/2019/10/07/a965e466-e8b3-11e9-bafb-da248f8d5734_story.html https://www.npr.org/2019/10/07/767904589/shocking-trump-is-criticized-for-pulling-troops-from-syrian-border In Sept 2019, he made an Air Force cargo crew, flying from the U.S. to Kuwait stop in Scotland (where there's no U.S. base) to refuel at a commercial airport (where it costs more), so they could stay overnight at a Trump property (which isn't close to the airport). Trump’s golf courses are losing money, so he's forcing the military to pay for 5-star nights there. https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2019/09/07/c-17-crew-stops-at-trumps-scottish-golf-resort-en-route-to-kuwait/ https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/06/air-force-trump-scottish-retreat-1484337 In Sept, 2019, Pentagon pulled funds for military schools, military housing funds, and daycare to pay for Trump's border wall. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-pentagon/pentagon-pulls-funds-for-military-schools-daycare-to-pay-for-trumps-border-wall-idUSKCN1VP2VY In Aug, 2019, emails revealed that three of Trump's Mar-a-Lago pals, who are now running Veterans Affairs, are rampant with meddling. "They had no experience in veterans affairs (none of them even served in the military) nor underwent any kind of approval process to serve as de facto managers. Yet, with Trump’s approval, they directed actions and criticized operations without any oversight. They wasted valuable staff time in hundreds of pages of communications and meetings, emails show. Emails reveal disdainful attitudes within the department to the trio’s meddling." https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/25/politics/trump-mar-a-lago-crowd-va-emails/index.html https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/22/digital-health-platform-mar-a-lago-members-1676335 Trump instructed aides to seize private property some of which contain military service member remains. https://apnews.com/ad6f6247154548c3b28db33ae6a5eae9 Trump told officials he would pardon them if they break the law by illegally seizing property. https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-08-28/trump-officials-border-wall-pardon Children of deployed US troops are no longer guaranteed citizenship. This includes US troops posted abroad for years at a time (August 28, 2019) https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019/08/28/children-us-troops-born-overseas-will-no-longer-get-automatic-american-citizenship.html On Aug 2, 2019, Trump requisitioned military retirement funds towards border wall https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/military-retirement-trump-wall/ On July 31, 2019, Trump ordered the Navy rescind medals to prosecutors who were prosecuted war criminals https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2019/07/31/trump-nixes-nams-for-4-prosecutors-tied-to-seal-case/ https://www.npr.org/2019/08/01/747144221/navy-rescinds-awards-to-prosecutors-in-case-of-seal-acquitted-of-murdering-capti Trump denied a U.S. Marine of 6 years entry into the United States for his citizenship interview (Reported July 17, 2019) https://thehill.com/homenews/news/453225-marine-corps-veteran-denied-entry-to-us-for-citizenship-interview https://www.pri.org/stories/2019-07-17/marine-vet-denied-entry-us-scheduled-citizenship-interview Trump made the U.S. Navy Blue Angels violate ethics rules by having them fly at his July 4th political campaign event (July 4, 2019) https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-office-presidency-2020-reelection-20190703-story.html https://www.npr.org/2019/07/03/738139123/on-july-4-trump-could-continue-pattern-of-politics-in-unexpected-places https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/07/trump-july-fourth-rally-hatch-act-violation.html Trump demanded US military chiefs stand next to him at 4th of July parade (reported July 2, 2019) https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/trump-demands-us-military-chiefs-stand-next-to-him-at-4th-of-july-parade/ar-AADJGbc In June, 2019, Trump sent troops to the border to paint the fence https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019/06/06/active-duty-troops-spend-month-painting-border-wall.html 6.5k User avatar level 2 victorvictor1 1 day ago · edited 21 hours ago PlatinumStarry2Gold8Bravo! continued Trump used his D-Day interview at a cemetery commemorating fallen US soldiers to attack a Vietnam veteran (June 6, 2019) https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-says-mueller-made-such-a-fool-of-himself-in-last-weeks-public-appearance/2019/06/06/96dd8f9c-885f-11e9-a491-25df61c78dc4_story.html Trump made his 2nd wife, Marla Maples, sign a prenup that would have cut off all child support if Tiffany joined the military (reported June 4th, 2019) https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-prenup-melania-everything-we-know-2019-4#the-agreement-also-stipulated-that-trump-would-stop-the-100000-child-support-payments-for-maples-young-daughter-tiffany-when-she-turned-21-or-if-she-got-a-full-time-job-enlisted-in-the-military-or-joined-the-peace-corps-11 On May 27, 2019, Trump turned away US military from his Memorial Day speech because they were from the destroyer USS John S. McCain https://www.businessinsider.com/uss-john-mccain-sailors-were-turned-away-from-trump-speech-2019-5 Trump ordered the USS John McCain out of sight during his visit to Japan (May 15, 2019). The ship's name was subsequently covered. (May 27, 2019) https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/446076-white-house-asked-for-uss-john-mccain-to-be-out-of-sight-during Trump's admin did nothing to fix the purge of 200,000 vets' healthcare applications (due to known administrative errors within VA’s enrollment system) even after a congressional testimony to point out the problem. (reported on May 13, 2019) https://www.snopes.com/news/2019/06/07/trump-admin-va-applications/ Under Trump's Admin, ICE deported a spouse of fallen Army soldier killed in Afghanistan, leaving their daughter parentless (April 16, 2019) https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/immigration/2019/04/15/ice-deports-gonzalez-spouse-u-s-soldier-killed-afghanistan/3477332002/ On March 20, 2019, Trump complained that a deceased war hero didn't thank him for his funeral https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47642335 Between 12/22/2018, and 1/25/2019, Trump refused to sign his party's funding bill, which shut down the government, forcing the Coast Guard to go without pay, which made service members rely on food pantries. and the generosity of private businesses like USAA and Navy Federal to cover their paychecks. However, his appointees got a $10,000 pay raise https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/trump-continues-retreat-on-government-shutdown-threat-pledges-to-renew-border-control-battle-in-2019/2018/12/20/3143a752-0457-11e9-b6a9-0aa5c2fcc9e4_story.html https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/01/trump-appointees-giant-raises-during-shutdown He banned service members from serving based on gender identity (1/22/2019) https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/13/us/transgender-troops-ban.html He tried to denied female troops access to birth control to limit sexual activity (on-going. Published Jan 18, 2019) https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/14/us/politics/court-trump-birth-control.html He tried to deport a marine vet who is a U.S.-born citizen (Jan 16, 2019) https://www.npr.org/2019/01/17/686188335/ice-tried-to-deport-this-u-s-citizen-and-marine-veteran When a man was caught swindling veterans pensions for high-interest “cash advances," Trump's Consumer Financial Protection Bureau fined him $1 (Jan 26, 2019) https://theintercept.com/2019/01/26/cfpb-mulvaney-discount/ He called a retired general a 'dog' with a 'big, dumb mouth' (Jan 1, 2019) https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/01/trump-mcchrystal-syria-troops-1077365 He increased privatization of the VA, leading to longer waits and higher taxpayer cost (2018) https://psmag.com/social-justice/privatizing-the-v-a-is-not-cheap https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-administration-plots-costly-private-care-expansion-for-veterans He revealed a covert Seal Team 5 deployment, including names and faces, on Twitter during his visit to Iraq (Dec 26, 2018) https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-s-reveal-seal-team-iraq-could-endanger-its-members-n952521 Trump lied to deployed troops that he gave them a 10% raise (12/26/2018). https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2018/12/27/in-iraq-visit-trump-makes-false-claim-about-military-pay-again/ He tried giving the military a raise that was lower than the standard living adjustment. Congress told him that idea wasn't going to work. Then after giving them the raise that Congress made him, he lied about it pretending that it was larger than Obama's. It wasn't. He fired service members living with HIV just before the 2018 holidays https://time.com/5485126/lawsuit-air-force-discharge-hiv-positive-members/ https://www.lambdalegal.org/news/va_20181219_trump-quietly-starts-firing-service-members-living-with-hiv He tried to slash disability and unemployment benefits for Veterans to $0, and eliminate the unemployability extrascheduler rating (Dec 17, 2018) This means disabled veterans could have seen their annual disability benefits fall from around $35,000 to around $13,000 under Donald Trump's budget proposal to cut "individual unemployability" for disabled veterans who were old enough to receive Social Security payments. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-disabled-veterans-cuts/ He called troops on Thanksgiving and told them he's most thankful for himself (Thanksgiving, 2018) https://www.denverpost.com/2018/11/22/trump-troops-thanksgiving/ medical-deferment-from-vietnam/ He urged Florida to not count deployed military votes (Nov 12, 2018) https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-military-votes-florida/ He canceled an Arlington Cemetery visit on Veterans Day due to light rain (Nov 12, 2018) https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/white-house-decision-cancel-veteran-s-cemetery-france-visit-creates-n934796 While in Europe commemorating the end of WWI, he didn't attend the ceremony at a US cemetery due to the rain -- other world leaders went anyway (Nov 10, 2018) https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/10/trump-cancels-ww1-memorial-at-us-cemetery-in-france-due-to-rain-sparking-twitterstorm.html He used troops as a political prop by sending them on a phantom mission to the border and made them miss Thanksgiving with their families (Oct-Dec, 2018) https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/thousands-of-us-troops-celebrating-thanksgiving-at-the-border/2018/11/21/b6987c00-edd4-11e8-9236-bb94154151d2_story.html Trump changed the GI Bill through his Forever GI Act, causing the VA to miss veteran benefits, including housing allowances. This caused many vets to run out of food and rent. (reported October 7, 2018) https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/12/7/18129508/forever-gi-bill-student-veterans-housing-wilkie Trump doubled the rejection rate for veterans requesting family deportation protections (July 5, 2018) https://www.newsweek.com/trump-doubled-rejection-rate-veterans-requesting-family-deportation-1010571 https://www.npr.org/2019/06/27/736362986/trump-wants-to-withdraw-deportation-protections-for-families-of-active-troops Trump deported active-duty spouses (11,800 military families face this problem as of April 2018) https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2018/04/01/as-many-as-11800-military-families-face-deportation-issues-group-says/ He forgot a fallen soldier's name (below) during a call to his pregnant widow, then attacked her the next day (Oct 23-24, 2017) https://www.militarytimes.com/news/2017/10/23/fallen-soldiers-widow-nothing-to-say-to-trump/ He sent commandos into an ambush due to a lack of intel, and sends contractors to pick them up, resulting in a commando being left behind, tortured, and executed. (Trump approved the mission because Bannon told him Obama didn't have the guts to do it) (Oct 4, 2017) https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/02/17/world/africa/niger-ambush-american-soldiers.html https://apnews.com/cb0d6c63f3ed4415a0bd19e98175f792 Doesn't stand during retreat bugle, continues to talk. "What a nice sound that is. Are they playing that for you [Sean Hannity] or me?" He ordered the discharge of active-duty immigrant troops with good records (2017-present) https://www.npr.org/2018/07/09/626773440/u-s-army-is-discharging-immigrant-recruits-who-were-promised-citizenship On Oct 3, 2016, Trump said vets get PTSD because they aren't strong https://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/trump-veterans-ptsd-not-strong-229050 Trump accepted a Purple Heart from a fan at one of his rallies and said: “I always wanted to get the Purple Heart. This was much easier.” (Aug 2, 2016) https://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/trump-purple-heart-226565 If you know how service members receive purple hearts, then you should also realize how absurd it is for trump to say what he did. Trump attacks Gold Star families: Myeshia Johnson (gold star widow), Khan family (gold star parents) etc. (2016-present) https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/31/us/politics/donald-trump-khizr-khan-wife-ghazala.html Trump sent roughly half of funds raised from a Jan 2016 veterans benefit to the Donald J Trump Foundation instead of veterans charities (the foundation has since been ordered shut because of fraud) (Jan, 2016) https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/07/trump-ordered-to-pay-2-million-to-settle-trump-foundation-suit.html Trump said he doesn't consider POWs heroes because they were caught. He said he prefers people who were not caught (July 18, 2015) Trump said having unprotected sex was his own personal Vietnam (1998) ever Trump dodged the draft 5 times by having a doctor diagnose him with bone spurs. https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2019/02/27/trumps-lawyer-no-basis-for-presidents- Want to follow more? r/TrumpHatesTheTroops/ 6.4k It’s not about whether it’s something he would’ve said, it’s about whether there’s any evidence he did. There is none. And the only person that was actually there, that’s willing to go on the record, is Trump enemy John Bolton. Just because something fits your narrative of Trump doesn’t mean it’s true. Facts don’t care about your feelings. Again, if this was said and so egregious, why wasn’t anything said over the last 2 years? Why wasn’t anything leaked? Why is it reported on 2 months before the election? I think you know why. Quote
Shady Posted September 5, 2020 Report Posted September 5, 2020 More bad news for Dems. Probably the reason for the recent hit job based on unnamed sources. Anyways. Cook Political Report Editor: Trump Polling Better with Minority Voters in 2020 Than in 2016 https://www.mediaite.com/news/cook-political-report-editor-trump-polling-better-with-minority-voters-in-2020-than-in-2016/ Quote
Shady Posted September 5, 2020 Report Posted September 5, 2020 Btw. The Atlantic is the same publication that printed stories that suggested Trig wasn’t really Sarah Palin’s son, also based on unnamed sources. Quote
Argus Posted September 6, 2020 Report Posted September 6, 2020 Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Infidel Dog Posted September 6, 2020 Report Posted September 6, 2020 10 hours ago, Argus said: Want to follow more? r/TrumpHatesTheTroops/ 6.4k I'd settle for one that mattered. I didn't mind that one video you posted though. But he didn't say anything in there I had a problem with so I don't know what you thought you were proving by offering it up. Here's another video below I liked even better. Not the whole thing, just THE Kayleigh Mcenany talk at the end where she explained how the Atlantic article was based on remarks from 4 unnamed sources but 10 actual, for real and named sources with 1st hand, on the ground knowledge of what happened debunk everything the anonymous sources who supposedly came forward 2 years after the events to make nonsense claims, 2 months before an election. Totally FAKE NEWS. Oh well, at least they didn't claim he peed on the bed this time. Quote
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