The Next World War

[August1991]

Once, there was the "Great War".

Then, there was "World War II".

These terms are very Western.

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IMHO, the next "world war" will be between common illiterate people and literate people.

[eyeball]

34 minutes ago, August1991 said:

IMHO, the next "world war" will be between common illiterate people and literate people.

Probably right-wing people allied with most of the world's national governments vs....humanity...everywhere.

Notice how Ecuador's butt-sniff of a President and a so-called socialist, framed his handover of Julian Assange for example,

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Ecuador's Foreign Minister said "Ecuador had been left with little choice but to end Assange’s stay in its London embassy following his 'innumerable acts of interference in the politics of other states' which put at risk the country’s relations with them."

https://www.dailywire.com/news/45889/former-ecuadorian-president-blasts-successor-paul-bois

 

Seriously though, I think I concur with the opinion of literate people that WW3 already occurred in the Congo and Central Africa where at least 5 million human beings died between 1998 and 2003.

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Congo: The 'World War' Nobody Knows About

Many people think that World War III has never occurred – but they would be wrong.

A third 'World War' did indeed occur and it killed at least 5 million people (mostly from disease and starvation) – some estimated place the death toll much higher.

 

One of the top ten deadliest wars in human history but we probably haven't seen anything yet.

[August1991]

There was also a "Cold War" that JFK, Nixon, Reagan - America - ultimately won.

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But I wonder, eyeball, if America will win this current war. 

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, August1991 said:

There was also a "Cold War" that JFK, Nixon, Reagan - America - ultimately won.

A Pyrrhic victory given the GWOT they had to start to win it.

 

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But I wonder, eyeball, if America will win this current war.

Maybe - but like the Cold War they'll probably have to ignite another inferno to win it.  Start a war with domestic liberals and progressives maybe.  Of course that conflict will be galactic in scale by the time they ever stop whining about the left and actually get around to doing something about it.  It'll be like Star Wars.

[QuebecOverCanada]

NATO vs the whole world, who would win?

[DogOnPorch]

11 hours ago, eyeball said:

A Pyrrhic victory given the GWOT they had to start to win it.

 

America didn't start the war...thus your confusion.

 

[August1991]

On 4/14/2019 at 12:11 AM, eyeball said:

A Pyrrhic victory given the GWOT they had to start to win it.

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I had to google that: GWOT = Global War on Terror.

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Look, in the Western/European World, there were two violent periods:

1789-1815

1914-1945

Since 1945, we've largely been at peace. Why? I reckon for the same reason that Tolstoi in the 1860s explained European peace after 1815.

I reckon that around 2055 or so, Europeans will be fighting again. And no doubt, the Swedes/Lutherans will claim neutrality. Yet, stubborn Slavic Christians will defend Western principles. 

 

  

Edited April 16, 2019 by August1991

[August1991]

Why 2055?

In Europe, it takes a generation or so to forget the violence of the previous cataclysm. By 2055, anyone born in 1990 and with a direct memory to the past of 1940 - will be dead.

[eyeball]

12 hours ago, August1991 said:

Why 2055?

In Europe, it takes a generation or so to forget the violence of the previous cataclysm. By 2055, anyone born in 1990 and with a direct memory to the past of 1940 - will be dead.

It took a lot less time than that to forget how the inferno that 'won' the Cold War was started. 

[taxme]

On 4/13/2019 at 6:24 PM, August1991 said:

Once, there was the "Great War".

Then, there was "World War II".

These terms are very Western.

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IMHO, the next "world war" will be between common illiterate people and literate people.

You must mean that there will be a war between the literate right versus the illiterate left, right? But we see that happening today. The war is on. The illiterate left have gone bonkers and they keep attacking the literate right all the time with their crazy and insane sore losing leftist madness and their silly azz tactics. The left are like children? They appear to have been doped up on too much illiterate leftist liberal no good for your health candy. Just saying. 

[taxme]

On 4/13/2019 at 9:48 PM, QuebecOverCanada said:

NATO vs the whole world, who would win?

If NATO tries to start a war with China or Russia, no one will win. NATO today has shown itself to be nothing more than a war mongering machine and are always ready to try to get a war started somewhere in the world. After all, all those military making warmongering corporations and the international bankers cannot make hundreds of billions of dollars if there is peace in the world. They keep trying and they keep saying that there must be war, somewhere, for world peace and democracy to prevail and win, pretty-pretty please. LOL. 

[August1991]

4 hours ago, taxme said:

You must mean that there will be a war between the literate right versus the illiterate left, right? But we see that happening today. The war is on. The illiterate left have gone bonkers and they keep attacking the literate right all the time with their crazy and insane sore losing leftist madness and their silly azz tactics. The left are like children? They appear to have been doped up on too much illiterate leftist liberal no good for your health candy. Just saying. 

No, Taxme. That's not what I mean at all.

We live in a world of 7 billion people. Many of them are barely literate and follow all kinds of superstitions. They live as common people did in the 18th century.

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We in the West, after much strife and tragedy, have created "civilized societies". We now confront the problem of dragging billions of people through the Enlightenment, quickly. (Note: No one is born with the knowledge of calculus. Someone older must teach calculus to someone younger.)

At present, we seem to do it by having people wanting to move here. That's not sustainable - particularly when it is now easy/cheap to travel. (Canada has the advantage that it's cold here and many people don't like the weather.)

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Last Point: I know that knowledge of calculus dates from the 17th century. And I've made mention of ignorant common people from the 18th century. So, knowledge of calculus is not a measure of being civilized. But to me, IMHO, IME, ordinary Americans understand the principles of the Enlightenment - even if few can take a derivative.

[August1991]

Look, Europeans seem to fight every century or so.

They fought in 1618-1648.

Then 1789-1815.

Then 1914-1945.

I suspect this is due to generational memory.

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By 2055 or so, every European alive will have forgotten about any grand-parent and a previous battle - and they'll want to kill each again.

Edited April 20, 2019 by August1991

[Guest]

I knew I was antsy for a reason...

[August1991]

1 hour ago, bcsapper said:

I knew I was antsy for a reason...

For several centuries, America is civilised - despite a Civil War. Europe, less so.

[taxme]

15 hours ago, August1991 said:

Look, Europeans seem to fight every century or so.

They fought in 1618-1648.

Then 1789-1815.

Then 1914-1945.

I suspect this is due to generational memory.

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By 2055 or so, every European alive will have forgotten about any grand-parent and a previous battle - and they'll want to kill each again.

Europeans do not want to fight with each other. We are a peaceful, caring and loving people by nature and only want to do what is best for the world. The problem is that the Europeans have allowed a certain number of international deep state elite zionist bankers to start wars and get mostly Europeans involved. Europeans have killed other Euroepeans by the hundreds of millions in the past many centuries. Many Europeans have suffered poverty, hunger, wars where they were either maimed or killed and all for a sick pathetic bunch of Satan worshipers who have made billions in profits from creating wars and getting Europeans to hurt one another. And these same scum are now trying to flood every non-European country with people who are not a part of a common mother into every white European nation to try and destroy our way of life and even our very existence. The next world war already has started and that war will be fought for the survival of the white Europeans of the world. Believe it or not. 

[August1991]

On 4/20/2019 at 2:37 PM, taxme said:

Europeans do not want to fight with each other.

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Huh?

Europeans are civilised? Europe is a civilised place? A place to send your daughters to learn a foreign language, for a finishing school?

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In the Thirty Years War, it was various Germans killing each other. (The Lutheran Swedes intervened and won.)

In 1800 or so, Napoleon put together an army ultimately defeated in Leipzig.

in 1914, Europeans created a cataclysm.

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Meanwhile, America/Canada/Australia were havens of peace.  

[August1991]

How does this happen?

I suspect that in 1610, like 1780 and 1910 - ordinary people listened and trusted priests/teachers/educated people - until not.

Before 1910, such people referred to "duty" or "la race". Imagine after.

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Nowadays, people refer to "culture" and "respect". Duty? Le Devoir. To understand the past, imagine this word as now politically correct. 

Edited April 28, 2019 by August1991

[Michael Hardner]

4 hours ago, August1991 said:

Huh?

Europeans are civilised? Europe is a civilised place? A place to send your daughters to learn a foreign language, for a finishing school?

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In the Thirty Years War, it was various Germans killing each other. (The Lutheran Swedes intervened and won.)

In 1800 or so, Napoleon put together an army ultimately defeated in Leipzig.

in 1914, Europeans created a cataclysm.

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Meanwhile, America/Canada/Australia were havens of peace.  

You have a good grasp of history.  The alt-right folks who can't use spellcheckers will be part of the illiterate army you mention above.

I will point out though that Andrew Jackson was president in the early 1800s and North America's peace came before the Europeans and Indians started playing each other off.

[Geremy777]

 

On 4/28/2019 at 9:16 AM, August1991 said:

Huh?

Europeans are civilised? Europe is a civilised place? A place to send your daughters to learn a foreign language, for a finishing school?

 

Europe is civilized for sure. They have a lot of minuses in their foreign politic decisions and on immigrant movements, but talking of the whole picture - they do a lot for their union. The last my essay about EU that I was writing, I gave it to team of good writers (www.superiorpapers.com), who makes really great job in the writing field of business, and they opened my eyes onto EU. With all the pros and cons, you know.

[Geremy777]

On 4/18/2019 at 11:12 AM, August1991 said:

Why 2055?

In Europe, it takes a generation or so to forget the violence of the previous cataclysm. By 2055, anyone born in 1990 and with a direct memory to the past of 1940 - will be dead.

Do you mean WW1 and WW2 by that?

[Carlus Magnus]

My SWAG is WWIII will start in Asia, India and China or some combination of them in Asia.  Just for the simple reason they are the worlds largest populations competing for resources in the same region.

 

[August1991]

15 hours ago, Geremy777 said:

Do you mean WW1 and WW2 by that?

Yes. My paper is due next Sunday. 3000 words. The topic is: "America in Europe: Two World Wars". I'm desperate. I'll pay whatever. I have my Mom's credit card.