jacee Posted April 4, 2019 Author Report Posted April 4, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said: They can ask, but that doesn't make it more likely they'll be accepted, especially if they come in through a safe country. Absolutely correct. All asylum seekers are processed the same to see whether they even qualify for a refugee hearing. 10 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said: Economic migrants claiming asylum to front like a refugee coming in through the US, they don't get to skip the line, especially if they come in illegally. The line up is what it is. They all wait. Edited April 4, 2019 by jacee
jacee Posted April 4, 2019 Author Report Posted April 4, 2019 On 4/2/2019 at 5:54 PM, Army Guy said: That might be good if we where talking a couple of days here, even a couple of weeks, but these guys are staying for a year or more before they even see their claim looked at, costing the tax payer... Hire more people to process? Or support asylum seekers for longer?
Army Guy Posted April 5, 2019 Report Posted April 5, 2019 54 minutes ago, jacee said: Hire more people to process? Or support asylum seekers for longer? Or close the Can/US border to illegal immigrants....just a thought.. 1 We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
egghead Posted April 5, 2019 Report Posted April 5, 2019 10 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Or close the Can/US border to illegal immigrants....just a thought.. Or just deport all illegal immigrants 1
Argus Posted April 5, 2019 Report Posted April 5, 2019 2 hours ago, jacee said: The line up is what it is. They all wait. While we pay for their food, clothing and shelter - as well as their legal costs. 1 "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
cannuck Posted April 5, 2019 Report Posted April 5, 2019 1 hour ago, egghead said: Or just deport all illegal immigrants The problem with that is you still have to go through some kind of process to determine who is legal and who is not. Well, actually, who hired the immigration consultant to the process finds you legal and those who did not.
Yzermandius19 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Posted April 5, 2019 30 minutes ago, cannuck said: The problem with that is you still have to go through some kind of process to determine who is legal and who is not. Well, actually, who hired the immigration consultant to the process finds you legal and those who did not. Can't deport all illegal immigrants until you know they are illegal immigrants, that's what the process is for. You might not like that it takes too long or costs too much money, but there isn't a better alternative. 1
cannuck Posted April 5, 2019 Report Posted April 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: Can't deport all illegal immigrants until you know they are illegal immigrants, that's what the process is for. You might not like that it takes too long or costs too much money, but there isn't a better alternative. Yeah, there is: closed borders.
Yzermandius19 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Posted April 5, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, cannuck said: Yeah, there is: closed borders. That does more economic damage than letting them stay while their claim is being processed, and we can't close the border effectively, it's too big. Illegal immigrants coming from America aren't a big enough problem to shut down the border, not even close, even if closing the border would solve the problem, it would simply create a much bigger problem than the one you tried to ineffectively solve with a complete overreaction. Edited April 5, 2019 by Yzermandius19
cannuck Posted April 5, 2019 Report Posted April 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: That does more economic damage than letting them stay while their claim is being processed, and we can't close the border effectively, it's too big. What "economic damage" would that be??????
egghead Posted April 5, 2019 Report Posted April 5, 2019 1 hour ago, cannuck said: The problem with that is you still have to go through some kind of process to determine who is legal and who is not. Well, actually, who hired the immigration consultant to the process finds you legal and those who did not. No paper = deportation; what process?
cannuck Posted April 5, 2019 Report Posted April 5, 2019 Just now, egghead said: No paper = deportation; what process? Problem is paper = probably forged but nobody bothers to find out.
egghead Posted April 5, 2019 Report Posted April 5, 2019 50 minutes ago, cannuck said: Problem is paper = probably forged but nobody bothers to find out. haha, just another leftists' excuse, Are you telling me that 175,000 illegal immigrants are all holding a forged paper?
jacee Posted April 5, 2019 Author Report Posted April 5, 2019 8 hours ago, Army Guy said: Or close the Can/US border to illegal immigrants....just a thought.. The recent court ruling means they can now ask for asylum at regular ports of entry.
Yzermandius19 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Posted April 5, 2019 8 hours ago, cannuck said: What "economic damage" would that be?????? The loss of trade with the United States, which is infinitely more important than reducing illegal immigration coming from the United States.
Michael Hardner Posted April 5, 2019 Report Posted April 5, 2019 On 3/15/2019 at 7:53 PM, jacee said: And in Canada, it’s not clear how seriously police and intelligence agencies take the threat of far-right extremism. https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/04/politics/fbi-director-wray-white-supremacy/index.html?fbclid=IwAR3AY1JsWMjPkY-Bs-439F_2tg5eJVqmx_ieddS9LWXBIO4CFINwdWFt5Zw Quote FBI Director Christopher Wray said Thursday that white supremacy presents a "persistent" and "pervasive" threat to the United States, breaking from President Donald Trump, who has sidestepped questions of whether white nationalists present a growing problem. The FBI takes it seriously and so should we. They are trying to infiltrate our Conservatives too. 1 Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Yzermandius19 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Posted April 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said: https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/04/politics/fbi-director-wray-white-supremacy/index.html?fbclid=IwAR3AY1JsWMjPkY-Bs-439F_2tg5eJVqmx_ieddS9LWXBIO4CFINwdWFt5Zw The FBI takes it seriously and so should we. They are trying to infiltrate our Conservatives too. No, Canada shouldn't be taking it seriously, and neither should the FBI. White Supremacy is a small fringe group, that is even smaller than the far-left intersectional supremacists.
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Posted April 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/04/politics/fbi-director-wray-white-supremacy/index.html?fbclid=IwAR3AY1JsWMjPkY-Bs-439F_2tg5eJVqmx_ieddS9LWXBIO4CFINwdWFt5Zw The FBI takes it seriously and so should we. They are trying to infiltrate our Conservatives too. So you wouldn't take it "seriously" unless the Americam FBI was doing so ? How odd.... Economics trumps Virtue.
Yzermandius19 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Posted April 5, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: So you wouldn't take it "seriously" unless the Americam FBI was doing so ? How odd.... I wouldn't "take it seriously" regardless of the FBI's position on the matter. "Taking it seriously" empowers the white supremacists more than ignoring them. No need to feed the trolls, with an unwarranted moral panic about white supremacy, what a joke. Virtue Signaling is a helluva drug. White supremacist are far less of a problem than they used to be, but Trump gets elected and idiots assume it because of the rise of white supremacy, laughable stuff. Edited April 5, 2019 by Yzermandius19
Michael Hardner Posted April 5, 2019 Report Posted April 5, 2019 27 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: So you wouldn't take it "seriously" unless the Americam FBI was doing so ? How odd.... Faulty inference. Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Michael Hardner Posted April 5, 2019 Report Posted April 5, 2019 28 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: No, Canada shouldn't be taking it seriously, and neither should the FBI. White Supremacy is a small fringe group, that is even smaller than the far-left intersectional supremacists. They push mentally ill people to commit murder, like André Bissonette. Yes, we should obviously take it seriously. Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Yzermandius19 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Posted April 5, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: They push mentally ill people to commit murder, like André Bissonette. Yes, we should obviously take it seriously. No they don't. People using far-right arguments as an attempt to justify murder is not proof that white supremacist are pushing a murder heavy agenda. There is nothing to take seriously, you are basically blaming Marilyn Manson for Columbine, because Klebold and Harris liked his music. Marilyn Manson needs to be taken seriously by the intelligence agencies, his music is inspiring school shootings, laughable shit, as laughable as your blaming white supremacists for Andre Bissonette. Next you'll be blaming PewDiePie for inspiring Tarrant to shoot up a mosque, clown. Edited April 5, 2019 by Yzermandius19
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Posted April 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Faulty inference. ...but consistent deference to what is happening in the United States for the opening lead, instead of fronting Canada first. Do you think there would otherwise be no "far right" in Canada ? Economics trumps Virtue.
Yzermandius19 Posted April 5, 2019 Report Posted April 5, 2019 (edited) PewDiePie "inspired" the Christchurch shooting, Marilyn Manson "inspired" the Columbine shooting, they need to be "taken seriously" by intelligence agencies. Edited April 5, 2019 by Yzermandius19
cannuck Posted April 5, 2019 Report Posted April 5, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, egghead said: haha, just another leftists' excuse, Are you telling me that 175,000 illegal immigrants are all holding a forged paper? I can tell you that every time I have had the chance to learn about what an "immigration consultant" has instructed clients to say and write, and in most cases the documents provided are complete BS and bear no relation to the truth at all. Of course, I / we have no idea of what percentage are falsified, you can bet your bottom dollar the ones who have hired help to prepare are a significant fraction. Picking up the phone in Ottawa and announcing yourself as immigration to a third world authority who is being paid big bux to provide falsified docs you will get the answer you would expect, not some kind of admission of guilt (that would derail the gravy train). In some cases, home countries are DELIGHTED that we are taking their problem people off of their hands, and will do it for free. Edited April 5, 2019 by cannuck
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