Trudeua housing illegals in hotels with your tax dollar.

[paxamericana]

Fox news says your Canadian tax dollar is paying for a nice hotel for illegal immigrants. 

 

[eyeball]

3 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

Fox news says your Canadian tax dollar is paying for a nice hotel for illegal immigrants. 

Not a Trump hotel I hope, or is that what Fox is whining about?

[bush_cheney2004]

I love it.....Canadians are very generous and welcoming, and there is lots of room in Canada, but Canadians hate spending money !

[Kerfuffle]

8 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

I love it.....Canadians are very generous and welcoming, and there is lots of room in Canada, but Canadians hate spending money !

Damn..Canadians treat immigrants with kindness and respect....I can understand why the yanks put immigrants in cages when many Americans live in tin cans also known as trailers and having  no health care....just wouldn't be right to treat the immigrants half decent when they cant treat their  own people with the basics.

[turningrite]

34 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

I love it.....Canadians are very generous and welcoming, and there is lots of room in Canada, but Canadians hate spending money !

According to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released in the spring I believe 48% of respondents favored immediate deportation of the illegal/irregular migrants and 36% favored permitting them to stay. When Doug Ford demanded that the federal government pick up all the cost for this fiasco I believe polling indicated overwhelming support among Ontarians for Ford's position. And that view is probably echoed across the country. There is an elite political consensus on immigration-related issues at the federal level - well, with reservations expressed by some Conservatives - but there's a lot more skepticism in the broader population. At some point, one has to believe, voters will get to express their displeasure and hopefully our feckless federal politicians will hear the message loudly and clearly.

Edited July 27, 2018 by turningrite

[bush_cheney2004]

This guy fled to Canada with his family from the U.S. but now wishes he hadn't.....damn immigration lawyer took all his money !

 

 

[Kerfuffle]

Interesting....FLED from the US ....who would of thought

[Kerfuffle]

5 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

This guy fled to Canada with his family from the U.S. but now wishes he hadn't.....damn immigration lawyer took all his money !

 

 

Interesting....FLED from the US who would of thought

[bush_cheney2004]

Oh no !    Who's gonna pay for all these damn illegals ??   Where is the "plan" ?   Where is the MONEY !!!???

[Kerfuffle]

1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Oh no !    Who's gonna pay for all these damn illegals ??   Where is the "plan" ?   Where is the MONEY !!!???

Why so worried....i feel for your insecurity.....just chant lock them up...lock them up and you will be fine in the morning

[bush_cheney2004]

My oh my...things are getting testy in Canada over illegals irregular border crossings:

 

[betsy]

11 hours ago, paxamericana said:

Fox news says your Canadian tax dollar is paying for a nice hotel for illegal immigrants. 

 

 

That's their answer to the refugee crisis the Liberals continue to  deny!

 

Heck, if we can't use dorms........let's fill up vacancies in hotels!

Edited July 27, 2018 by betsy

[GostHacked]

12 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

I love it.....Canadians are very generous and welcoming, and there is lots of room in Canada, but Canadians hate spending money !

It's better than separating families at the border, or housing them in abandoned Walmarts that were turned into detention centers while the kids are wisked away around the nation to cities like NY where the mayor came forth and asked wtf was going on with all this child trafficking.

Better to spend the money on people instead of weapons.

[Shady]

1 hour ago, GostHacked said:

It's better than separating families at the border, or housing them in abandoned Walmarts that were turned into detention centers while the kids are wisked away around the nation to cities like NY where the mayor came forth and asked wtf was going on with all this child trafficking.

Better to spend the money on people instead of weapons.

No, borrowing billions of dollars to spend on people that shouldn't be in the country isn't necessarily better.  Also, it's a false choice between money on people or money on weapons.

[turningrite]

6 minutes ago, Truth Detector said:

No, borrowing billions of dollars to spend on people that shouldn't be in the country isn't necessarily better.  Also, it's a false choice between money on people or money on weapons.

Actually, in Canada it raises a starker and more immediate contrast. We're putting the illegal/irregular migrants up in hotels while our growing horde of homeless have to make due, if they're lucky, with sleeping bags and a cots in  church basements when the weather gets cold. And no doubt the migrants will quickly be prioritized for what little social housing is available and while waiting for their claims to be processed, which can often take years, will be provided better government-funded health benefits than are available to seniors - too bad those seniors paid all those taxes for all those years just to be pushed to the back of the line. Oh, and the Ontario Human Rights Commission recently ruled that those who have temporary work authorizations can't be denied permanent jobs by employers. Too bad for those who thought being a Canadian comes with any real advantages other than being able to vote and conveniently move around the world and then back to Canada when it's convenient to do so.

[eyeball]

3 hours ago, betsy said:

 

That's their answer to the refugee crisis the Liberals continue to  deny!

 

Heck, if we can't use dorms........let's fill up vacancies in hotels!

Better than the stupid lol's and references to Fidel Castro and Brad Pitt were usually get from deniers.

Edited July 27, 2018 by eyeball

[turningrite]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

Better than the stupid lol's and references to Fidel Castro and Brad Pitt were usually get from deniers.

What does this nonsensical statement even mean? And how does it contribute to the debate?

[Argus]

3 hours ago, turningrite said:

Actually, in Canada it raises a starker and more immediate contrast. We're putting the illegal/irregular migrants up in hotels while our growing horde of homeless have to make due, if they're lucky, with sleeping bags and a cots in  church basements when the weather gets cold. And no doubt the migrants will quickly be prioritized for what little social housing is available and while waiting for their claims to be processed, which can often take years, will be provided better government-funded health benefits than are available to seniors - too bad those seniors paid all those taxes for all those years just to be pushed to the back of the line. 

Not quite so bad but bad enough. Most of those who are 'homeless' are that way because they do not avail themselves of government programs. Mostly these are people who are addicts of various sorts, along with those with mental health issues. 

But. The people really getting screwed are the poor who have been trying to get into social housing. For example, imagine a woman named Anne. Anne was born in Canada and has three kids born here, two girls and a boy, and her husband died. She is in a two bedroom apartment she can hardly afford, forced to work two jobs to pay the rent. Anne has been on a waiting list for a couple of years for a subsidized three bedroom townhouse and is near the head of the list. Then comes a guy named Trudeau, beaming and taking selfies while he welcomes tens of thousands of Syrians into Canada.

The Syrians, being homeless, immediately get bumped to the head of the list, pushing Anne down quite a ways. The home that was going to go to her goes to a Syrian family instead. Another year and a half later she's getting near the top of the list again. Along come tens of thousands of Haitians and then Nigerians crossing the border, saying the magic words, and going to the top of the list again. Anne gets shoved back down once more, while the place that would have gone to her now goes to a Haitian family.

And the Liberals tell anyone who complains that they're not showing the proper degree of empathy towards these 'poor people'.

I wonder if they'd say that to 'Anne'?

[turningrite]

3 hours ago, Argus said:

Not quite so bad but bad enough. Most of those who are 'homeless' are that way because they do not avail themselves of government programs. Mostly these are people who are addicts of various sorts, along with those with mental health issues. 

But. The people really getting screwed are the poor who have been trying to get into social housing.

And the Liberals tell anyone who complains that they're not showing the proper degree of empathy towards these 'poor people'.

I wonder if they'd say that to 'Anne'?

I agree with much of what you say. I believe, however, that some of the homeless, including veterans, have fallen through the cracks and realized on the way to the bottom that there's no safety net left for most ordinary people. You wonder what our feckless politicians would say to 'Anne'. I don't. They'd tell her she's out of luck -  i.e. to suck it up. It's exactly this kind of thing that generated the Brexit result. I remember watching a British documentary prior to the Brexit referendum in which a woman very much like 'Anne', with kids and a physically disabled spouse and who'd waited years without result for a social housing unit, said she was fed up with being continuously ignored and therefore believed she'd likely support the pro-Brexit side if for no other reason than to send a message. She felt she and her family had nothing to lose. I wonder how many Canadians who haven't been in the position of having to rely on a safety net they've always assumed will be there if/when they really need it would react were they to realize how bad the situation really is?

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, turningrite said:

What does this nonsensical statement even mean? And how does it contribute to the debate?

It means you must be new to the internet. Lol's, references to commies and conflating them with liberals have constituted the pinnicle of right wing debate for at least ten years around here 

[taxme]

23 hours ago, eyeball said:

Not a Trump hotel I hope, or is that what Fox is whining about?

It is for sure that Trump would not open up his hotel doors for criminal illegals. I would not either. Would you, big liberal talker? I always despise these liberals who always have no problem with spending other Canadians tax dollars on their pet peeves. Why don't these caring loving liberals put their money where their mouth is and take some of these criminal illegals into their own homes?  Excuse me why I go and have a good laugh.       So sad that I had to learn about this from Tucker on FOX news. 

[taxme]

1 hour ago, turningrite said:

I agree with much of what you say. I believe, however, that some of the homeless, including veterans, have fallen through the cracks and realized on the way to the bottom that there's no safety net left for most ordinary people. You wonder what our feckless politicians would say to 'Anne'. I don't. They'd tell her she's out of luck -  i.e. to suck it up. It's exactly this kind of thing that generated the Brexit result. I remember watching a British documentary prior to the Brexit referendum in which a woman very much like 'Anne', with kids and a physically disabled spouse and who'd waited years without result for a social housing unit, said she was fed up with being continuously ignored and therefore believed she'd likely support the pro-Brexit side if for no other reason than to send a message. She felt she and her family had nothing to lose. I wonder how many Canadians who haven't been in the position of having to rely on a safety net they've always assumed will be there if/when they really need it would react were they to realize how bad the situation really is?

I agree with everything he said. It is far pass the time when host Canadians must keep their their mouths shut and not complain for political correctness sake about what this feckless leader like Trudeau is still and has been doing to Canada and Canadians for the past four years. When a Canadian is pushed to the back of the line for a foreigner than there really is a problem happening in Canada against Canadians. What I would like to see is to have is for Western Canada to have it's own Brexit and get the hell away from the rest of liberal and socialist Canada. I don't think that I will try and hold my breath on that one. Liberalism and socialism have entrenched themselves really well into our Western Canadian life and culture. Aw well. 

[GostHacked]

23 hours ago, Truth Detector said:

No, borrowing billions of dollars to spend on people that shouldn't be in the country isn't necessarily better.  Also, it's a false choice between money on people or money on weapons.

Do you oppose of foreign aid to troubled nations?

[betsy]

21 hours ago, Argus said:

And the Liberals tell anyone who complains that they're not showing the proper degree of empathy towards these 'poor people'.

 

Worse.  If you complain.......

.....................they say you are "un-Canadian."

[betsy]

1 hour ago, GostHacked said:

Do you oppose of foreign aid to troubled nations?

 

EH?   How is that relevant to what he said? 

 

 

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On 7/27/2018 at 12:50 PM, Truth Detector said:

No, borrowing billions of dollars to spend on people that shouldn't be in the country isn't necessarily better.  Also, it's a false choice between money on people or money on weapons.

 

 

Edited July 28, 2018 by betsy