Michael Hardner Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Lots of "mass shootings" before 2013...ever heard of "Sandy Hook" ? How is that relevant to your graphing afflictions ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Just now, Michael Hardner said: How is that relevant to your graphing afflictions ? More "mass shootings"....continued support for guns and gun rights. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: More "mass shootings"....continued support for guns and gun rights. Random words. Here's some American Hamburger Helper for you: The "x axis" goes this way -------------> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Random words. Here's some American Hamburger Helper for you: The "x axis" goes this way -------------> Whatever works for you in Canada...as long as we get to keep guns and buy even more guns. Even the Hamburger Helper in Canada is American...in two official languages ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 10 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: 1. Whatever works for you in Canada...as long as we get to keep guns and buy even more guns. 2. Even the Hamburger Helper in Canada is American...in two official languages ! 1. Graphs are French in origin. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/René_Descartes 2. Hamburger - inspired and conceived in Germany https://communitytable.parade.com/61481/toriavey/where-did-hamburgers-originate/ Math is universal... time marches on... etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal 9000 Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 14 hours ago, blackbird said: Yes, there are solutions, but not from the NRA. Waste of energy and breath talking with them. Trump says they need to arm some of the teachers, repeating the NRA talking points. The largest education organization in the U.S. said the arming teachers comment is ridiculous. Nobody becomes a teacher to be an armed guard. Well, Duh! They're an advocacy group. Just like you're not gonna get advice from Planned Parenthood about raising your baby and you're not gonna get advice on Atheism from the Pope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal 9000 Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 On 2/23/2018 at 7:45 AM, Boges said: Until they do. There are reasonable gun measures that people want. Measures that have extraordinary strong support Nationally. But the approach people in the GOP take is that if they can't stop all gun crime, they shouldn't try to stop any gun crime. That's not true at all, in fact it usually goes the other way. If the dems don't get a weapons ban, they don't want to accept that anything else can be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altai Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 (edited) This girl receives a rifle as gift, she is going to shot her friends in the first opportunity. Her face reminds me someone from an old movie. Edited February 24, 2018 by Altai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Hal 9000 said: That's not true at all, in fact it usually goes the other way. If the dems don't get a weapons ban, they don't want to accept that anything else can be done. Not sure what dems you are referring to. The ones I have heard speaking on the issue don't want an all out ban such as to the 2nd, they do want a few safeguards in place such as effective background checks, an increase in the legal age, and perhaps putting assault rifles back into the hands of the people they were designed for. You've heard of the military I imagine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 3 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Whatever works for you in Canada...as long as we get to keep guns and buy even more guns. Even the Hamburger Helper in Canada is American...in two official languages ! How many school shooting you aiming for this year? Seems the US is out to set a record. One every 2.5 days so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, OftenWrong said: Maybe you should do a little research yourself before posting out of sheer ignorance. My little research tells me 3/4 of teachers surveyed in the US don't want to be armed. One particular teacher interviewed after Trump's latest ridiculous rantings said while he is a gun owner with a long gun and a pistol, he would not carry a gun into the classroom. Many do agree armed guards are a much saner idea. https://www.cnn.com/2013/02/27/politics/teacher-guns-survey/index.html Edited February 24, 2018 by Omni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 5 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: The gun grabbers will never show you these Gallup polls: http://www.guns.com/2013/10/26/gallup-poll-support-gun-control-waning-opposition-handgun-ban-time-high/ Here is the same poll that extends to 2017. You're in the minority BC2004. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal 9000 Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Omni said: Not sure what dems you are referring to. The ones I have heard speaking on the issue don't want an all out ban such as to the 2nd, they do want a few safeguards in place such as effective background checks, an increase in the legal age, and perhaps putting assault rifles back into the hands of the people they were designed for. You've heard of the military I imagine? Well, then it shouldn't be too hard to come to some agreements because Trump has also suggested those changes. In fact, he's suggested even more changes than those. As far as semi-auto rifes (as I assume you're talking about), those wont be outlawed...and in fact are used in a small fraction of crimes. But yeah, some good starting points, we'll see what the democrats do - my guess is that they dig in their heels and try blaming Trump for their inaction. Just a hunch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal 9000 Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Omni said: My little research tells me 3/4 of teachers surveyed in the US don't want to be armed. One particular teacher interviewed after Trump's latest ridiculous rantings said while he is a gun owner with a long gun and a pistol, he would not carry a gun into the classroom. Many do agree armed guards are a much saner idea. https://www.cnn.com/2013/02/27/politics/teacher-guns-survey/index.html That sounds about right, meaning that 25% want to take the required training and arm themselves - that sounds like a pretty good number to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said: Well, then it shouldn't be too hard to come to some agreements because Trump has also suggested those changes. In fact, he's suggested even more changes than those. As far as semi-auto rifes (as I assume you're talking about), those wont be outlawed...and in fact are used in a small fraction of crimes. But yeah, some good starting points, we'll see what the democrats do - my guess is that they dig in their heels and try blaming Trump for their inaction. Just a hunch! Trump suggests one thing one day (when he is confronting those who lost friends and loved ones in school shootings) and then flips completely upside down the next day when he is speaking to his conservative, gun toting, NRA supporting followers. If you buy his BS then I have some property for sale. Perhaps AR 15's will be outlawed since the "small fraction of crimes" include nearly all of the many school shootings. The gun nuts need to be reined in and I am hoping the student actions that have followed the latest one will have effect. They seem to be gathering strength at the same time as major US corporations are cutting ties to the NRA. I think people have just had enough, finally. I think American's from either side of the political should dig their heels in and hold hairball to account for his endless lies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 15 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said: That sounds about right, meaning that 25% want to take the required training and arm themselves - that sounds like a pretty good number to me. It wouldn't sound pretty good to me were I a US parent sending my kid off to grade one knowing they would be sitting in a classroom facing a teacher with a Glock tied to their hip. Many of the teachers surveyed remarked they didn't go to college to become a teacher to end up with the possibility of having to shoot a student. And it also won't sound too good when inevitably a student is mistakenly shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
?Impact Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Hal 9000 said: That sounds about right, meaning that 25% want to take the required training and arm themselves - that sounds like a pretty good number to me. Not really, here are the details: How likely would you be to bring a firearm to school if you were allowed to? Very Likely - 10.7% Likely - 6.9% Somewhat Likely - 10% Somewhat Unlikely - 7.2% Unlikely - 15.7% Very Unlikely - 49.5% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal 9000 Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 5 hours ago, ?Impact said: Not really, here are the details: How likely would you be to bring a firearm to school if you were allowed to? Very Likely - 10.7% Likely - 6.9% Somewhat Likely - 10% Somewhat Unlikely - 7.2% Unlikely - 15.7% Very Unlikely - 49.5% So, nearly 28% say "likely"? Yeah, that's good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said: So, nearly 28% say "likely"? Yeah, that's good enough. More than good enough. Evidently the ability to add, let alone use reason are not typical leftist traits. The ones who are not quite sure want more details about training, security and liability. Those are important questions. Edited February 25, 2018 by OftenWrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: More than good enough. Evidently the ability to add, let alone use reason are not typical leftist traits. The ones who are not quite sure want more details about training, security and liability. Those are important questions. Apparently neither math or reading are your strong suits. What I do find interesting is all of the major corporations severing any previous ties with the NRA. I guess maybe having 33,000 people shot annually could hurt business. You know, you can't rent a car when you're dead. A little more of a primer for you and hal as to the business end of things: mist people buy a gun once, but they buy plane tickets and rent cars, book hotel rooms many times. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-23/nra-corporate-partners-hit-with-boycott-calls Edited February 25, 2018 by Omni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Omni said: Apparently neither math or reading are your strong suits Writing is definitely not one of yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
?Impact Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Omni said: You know, you can't rent a car when you're dead. Sure you can, they are long and black. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, ?Impact said: Sure you can, they are long and black. OK, you got me there. But now that gets me to thinking, maybe I should invest in US funeral homes. And open a gun shop. I'm heading for Alabama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 10 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: Writing is definitely not one of yours. Oh, did I make a typo? Sorry. I was never a great typist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted February 25, 2018 Report Share Posted February 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Omni said: Oh, did I make a typo? Sorry. I was never a great typist. Yep, as well as questionable math, logic, reading comprehension skills... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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