Are Conspiracy Theorists 'Nuts"

[Cum Laude]

When we think of conspiracy theorists, the name Alex Jones will always be mentioned. Does Alex Jones work for those he "pretends" to expose?

Conspiracy theories have long gotten a bad rap – by design. Conspiracies are nothing more than private plans and execution of same, a well-known and time-honored business and military strategy since time immemorial. Dubbing such plans a “conspiracy” connotes a certain nefarious illegitimacy to them – once again, by design – usually by official government authorities to crack down on those they don’t like. Meanwhile, all state-sanctioned secretive plans and strategies – all secretive “for our own good” of course – are deemed completely legitimate and above reproach – INDEED, PATRIOTIC EVEN! Funny/ironic how that works.

Adding the implied derogative scientific term “theory” to the label completes the linguistic coups de gras, by explicitly implying that the idea is merely a random supposition, and thus has no grounding in fact whatsoever. [Needless to say, the same linguistic trick is employed universally against Climate Change “theorists” as well.]

In short, the term “Conspiracy Theory(ist)” is used extensively, if not almost universally, as a mere label to dismiss that which the labeler does not want to hear.

But even most interestingly, that opens up the question as to what questions exactly the labeler(s) are most resistant to being asked, and even more importantly,  what answers are they most afraid they might find if they do?

But who am I and what the hell do I really know?

[?Impact]

Conspiracy theories are generally properly labelled, because they have zero sound substance behind them. They are almost always not trying to further something, but to dismiss the hard work of others. How many of the conspiracy theorists actually invest in doing something positive? You have things backwards.

[Cum Laude]

7 hours ago, ?Impact said:

Conspiracy theories are generally properly labelled, because they have zero sound substance behind them. They are almost always not trying to further something, but to dismiss the hard work of others. How many of the conspiracy theorists actually invest in doing something positive? You have things backwards.

That a lady. Think the way you've been programmed.

[Guest]

12 hours ago, Cum Laude said:

That a lady. Think the way you've been programmed.

We're not missing hotenough, are we?

Edited February 4, 2018 by bcsapper

[Cum Laude]

On ‎2‎/‎4‎/‎2018 at 10:20 AM, bcsapper said:

We're not missing hotenough, are we?

Not at all. He is young and poorly informed. Sometimes the circle needs to be stretched to the point where it can't reclaim it's original shape. Much like “critical thinking” is the act of debunking “conspiracy theories” to validate “legitimate, mainstream information”.

[Omni]

On 2/4/2018 at 8:20 AM, bcsapper said:

We're not missing hotenough, are we?

His theories were some of the "nutiest"

[Michael Hardner]

9 hours ago, Omni said:

His theories were some of the "nutiest"

I am glad he is gone.  Unfortunately, we are beset upon by conspiracy people due to the new epistemology.  

A chap I used to be good friends with, who never understood politics nor paid much attention, has now been sucked into politics via conspiracy facebook pages.  He is now an expert on the 9/11 inside job and about to not vaccinate his kids.   

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2018/02/08/trudeau-to-facebook-fix-your-fake-news-problem-or-else.html

Trudeau has apparently warned Facebook about posting fake news, but I would prefer an all-party committee to present a united front on this part.  Canadian media control has been a concern, understandably, of all parties and Conservative Brian Mulroney enshrined Canadian control into the FTA.

[Omni]

5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

I am glad he is gone.  Unfortunately, we are beset upon by conspiracy people due to the new epistemology.  

A chap I used to be good friends with, who never understood politics nor paid much attention, has now been sucked into politics via conspiracy facebook pages.  He is now an expert on the 9/11 inside job and about to not vaccinate his kids.   

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2018/02/08/trudeau-to-facebook-fix-your-fake-news-problem-or-else.html

Trudeau has apparently warned Facebook about posting fake news, but I would prefer an all-party committee to present a united front on this part.  Canadian media control has been a concern, understandably, of all parties and Conservative Brian Mulroney enshrined Canadian control into the FTA.

It is a bit disconcerting when belief begins to overcome knowledge. I hope Trudeau's warning to facebook has effect. 

[Cum Laude]

On ‎2‎/‎9‎/‎2018 at 12:08 PM, Omni said:

It is a bit disconcerting when belief begins to overcome knowledge. I hope Trudeau's warning to facebook has effect. 

Yeah. When Trudeau speaks, the world stops and listens.

[Michael Hardner]

On 2/9/2018 at 1:08 PM, Omni said:

I hope Trudeau's warning to facebook has effect. 

In the meantime, we owe it to ourselves and each other to point out every single batshit post that people we know put up.  If you can't change their minds with counter cites, at least make them understand how you feel about what they are posting.  

[?Impact]

On 2/10/2018 at 4:58 PM, Michael Hardner said:

In the meantime, we owe it to ourselves and each other to point out every single batshit post that people we know put up.

That would be a full time job for most.

[eyeball]

A tough job too, rust never sleeps.

[Boges]

There is a cohort of people that actually try to still argue the world is Flat. All examples of the earth as a globe is just a scam. Also images are photoshopped. 

[taxme]

On 2/12/2018 at 4:54 PM, ?Impact said:

That would be a full time job for most.

Trying to convince lieberals that they have no clue about anything is truly an exercise in futility. Believe me. I have tried and the exercise is starting to really hurt. 

[taxme]

On 2/13/2018 at 6:22 AM, Boges said:

There is a cohort of people that actually try to still argue the world is Flat. All examples of the earth as a globe is just a scam. Also images are photoshopped. 

And there are plenty of people who still can't get it thru their pea brain heads of theirs that 9/11 was part of a conspiracy.  No one in their right mind can deny this was a conspiracy. There is plenty of bat shit posted here every day of the liberal ilk kind. The world would be a better place if they would use a bit more common sense and logic rather than live by and on emotion and quit with the foolish liberal talk. Just saying. 

[taxme]

On 2/3/2018 at 12:58 PM, ?Impact said:

Conspiracy theories are generally properly labelled, because they have zero sound substance behind them. They are almost always not trying to further something, but to dismiss the hard work of others. How many of the conspiracy theorists actually invest in doing something positive? You have things backwards.

So, when the twin towers came tumbling down how do you explain for the W7 building coming down at the same time blocks away? Was it just a coincidence? C'mon, smell the horse manure when it is being tossed around for gawd's sake. 

[Queenmandy85]

The arguments against the WTC coming down as a result of internal demolition are:

-Aircraft were witnessed by millions, crashing into the tower.

-Of the tens of thousands of people working in the towers in the preceding days and weeks, none bothered to report a crew laying det cord and high explosives throughout the buildings

-After toppling the two towers, what would have been gained by dropping the W7?

-People engaged in crimes have to talk about it. Even G. Gordon Liddy ended up spilling his guts. Occasionally, you find someone who can keep their mouth shut, but in a conspiracy involving a crew of hundreds, most of them would be bragging to their girlfriends within hours.  Crimminals have a need to confess. That's what makes police work easier.

Edited February 28, 2018 by Queenmandy85

[Michael Hardner]

There's no argument for common sense that nonsense lovers will buy, though.

People just want to believe the coincidence and anomalies add up to more than they do.  It validates them somehow.

[betsy]

On 2/3/2018 at 9:24 AM, Cum Laude said:

When we think of conspiracy theorists, the name Alex Jones will always be mentioned. Does Alex Jones work for those he "pretends" to expose?

Conspiracy theories have long gotten a bad rap – by design. Conspiracies are nothing more than private plans and execution of same, a well-known and time-honored business and military strategy since time immemorial. Dubbing such plans a “conspiracy” connotes a certain nefarious illegitimacy to them – once again, by design – usually by official government authorities to crack down on those they don’t like. Meanwhile, all state-sanctioned secretive plans and strategies – all secretive “for our own good” of course – are deemed completely legitimate and above reproach – INDEED, PATRIOTIC EVEN! Funny/ironic how that works.

Adding the implied derogative scientific term “theory” to the label completes the linguistic coups de gras, by explicitly implying that the idea is merely a random supposition, and thus has no grounding in fact whatsoever. [Needless to say, the same linguistic trick is employed universally against Climate Change “theorists” as well.]

In short, the term “Conspiracy Theory(ist)” is used extensively, if not almost universally, as a mere label to dismiss that which the labeler does not want to hear.

But even most interestingly, that opens up the question as to what questions exactly the labeler(s) are most resistant to being asked, and even more importantly,  what answers are they most afraid they might find if they do?

But who am I and what the hell do I really know?

Are they all nuts?  Depends on the theory and what they say about it.

The Dalai Lama, a CIA agent?

 

 

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12 Crazy Conspiracy Theories That Actually Turned Out to Be True

https://www.rd.com/culture/conspiracy-theories-that-turned-out-to-be-true/

 

Edited March 1, 2018 by betsy

[betsy]

On 2/3/2018 at 3:58 PM, ?Impact said:

Conspiracy theories are generally properly labelled, because they have zero sound substance behind them. They are almost always not trying to further something, but to dismiss the hard work of others.

Well.....we just found out  - thanks to the Reader's Digest - you're dead wrong. 

 

 

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How many of the conspiracy theorists actually invest in doing something positive? You have things backwards.

If there's the likelihood of truth, and genuine concern - trying to alert the public  is something positive.

Edited March 1, 2018 by betsy

[Queenmandy85]

On 2/28/2018 at 2:05 AM, taxme said:

And there are plenty of people who still can't get it thru their pea brain heads of theirs that 9/11 was part of a conspiracy.  No one in their right mind can deny this was a conspiracy.

I deny it and I am in my right mind. My mother had me tested. 

[taxme]

5 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said:

I deny it and I am in my right mind. My mother had me tested. 

Sure you would. You live in that dream world where all is ok and there is no such thing as conspiracies. All is goody-goody to you. Gesus, even the 1st and 2nd world wars were part of a conspiracy to get a war going. Or do you believe that several countries just decided to get together and start a war just for fun? 

So how do you explain for the fact that the W7  building came down at the same time as the twin towers? Was there a long cable attached to the towers under the ground that pulled that building down also? Get with the picture, will you. 

[Queenmandy85]

12 minutes ago, taxme said:

Sure you would. You live in that dream world where all is ok and there is no such thing as conspiracies.

A conspiracy requires several people. I believe in conspiracies. I do not believe in conspiracies that stay secret. Watergate was a conspiracy. We know who most of the actors were because not a single one of them could keep their mouth shut. The assassination of JFK was not a conspiracy because nobody confessed to it. Oswald died before he could. When a person commits a crime, they have an overwhelming need to confess. Usually it is to the police, but often it is to a girl / boy friend or just in a bar. 

We had a great example of it where I worked. A major crime occurred and a guy started asking about it in the restaurant across the street an hour before the crime was discovered. She reported it to us and he was nicked.

Nobody has answered my question about the tens of thousands of people working in the WTC and not one of them asked the demolitions crew what they were doing while they spent weeks laying explosives. When you come across a wife holding a bloody knife over the body of her husband lying in a pool of his own blood, yes, she is innocent unless proven guilty, but she is the first person I am going to interview. When two large plane crash into two tall buildings that burn down, I'm going to go with the likelihood that the two buildings collapsed as as a result of two planes crashing into them. Then you have a member of that conspiracy, bin Laden, bragging that his gang did it. I would be happy to present that to the Crown for prosecution.

[taxme]

4 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

A conspiracy requires several people. I believe in conspiracies. I do not believe in conspiracies that stay secret. Watergate was a conspiracy. We know who most of the actors were because not a single one of them could keep their mouth shut. The assassination of JFK was not a conspiracy because nobody confessed to it. Oswald died before he could. When a person commits a crime, they have an overwhelming need to confess. Usually it is to the police, but often it is to a girl / boy friend or just in a bar. 

We had a great example of it where I worked. A major crime occurred and a guy started asking about it in the restaurant across the street an hour before the crime was discovered. She reported it to us and he was nicked.

Nobody has answered my question about the tens of thousands of people working in the WTC and not one of them asked the demolitions crew what they were doing while they spent weeks laying explosives. When you come across a wife holding a bloody knife over the body of her husband lying in a pool of his own blood, yes, she is innocent unless proven guilty, but she is the first person I am going to interview. When two large plane crash into two tall buildings that burn down, I'm going to go with the likelihood that the two buildings collapsed as as a result of two planes crashing into them. Then you have a member of that conspiracy, bin Laden, bragging that his gang did it. I would be happy to present that to the Crown for prosecution.

Well, i know one thing for sure and I can guarantee you is that what happened to the twin towers will never happen to the new tower. It will never be hit by a plane/s ever. The globalist zionist elite banksters will make sure that never happens. They got a new building out of it by bringing them down. It's funny that on the day that the towers came tumbling down the owner of the towers Silverstein just happened to have a dentist appointment that day. Ya sure he did. If anyone believes that lie than there is something wrong with them. 

Those that were laying those explosives were no doubt doing it at night when nobody was around. And those explosives would be probably placed in a box with the words plumbing supplies written on it. Anyway there was no way that those towers could come down from planes hitting them. I will give you one, but two? Anyone who believes that chit is nuts in the head. 

[Queenmandy85]

2 hours ago, taxme said:

And those explosives would be probably placed in a box with the words plumbing supplies written on it

You are not very familiar with demolitions, are you. I'm sure there are members of this forum who can explain the process better than I.  Perhaps you could discuss it with an army engineer.