President Oprah Winfrey in January 2021?

[?Impact]

23 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said:

 but more people than expected have come out and said "Yes, we love Oprah, but we wouldn't want her as president" - as they should.

I think you underestimate the number of Americans with a sense of delicious irony.

[taxme]

3 hours ago, bcsapper said:

Yeah that's her.  She'd still kick Trump's arse...

And Trump in return will kick her big fat swollen arse even harder.  You are such a "dreamer".  

Edited January 18, 2018 by taxme

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, taxme said:

And Trump in return will kicker her big fat swollen arse even harder. 

As a girther, I have to believe his arse is a lot bigger than he would have us believe...

[taxme]

50 minutes ago, ?Impact said:

I think you underestimate the number of Americans with a sense of delicious irony.

I think that you underestimate the number of Americans that do have and show plenty of intelligence, and voting for big butt is not on their radar. They now know as to who is really going to butter their bread, and it won't be big butt Oprah. 

[taxme]

2 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

As a girther, I have to believe his arse is a lot bigger than he would have us believe...

I wouldn't know? I don't look at other men's butts. But I have noticed just how big Oprah's butt is. Yikes. 

[Guest]

17 minutes ago, taxme said:

I wouldn't know? I don't look at other men's butts. But I have noticed just how big Oprah's butt is. Yikes. 

No, me neither...

[Hal 9000]

12 hours ago, ?Impact said:

I think you underestimate the number of Americans with a sense of delicious irony.

What I initially did underestimate is the amount of Americans who would say enough is enough with the cult of celebrity, and to that I am encouraged.  Say what you want about Trump (and you do), but Trump was a business man first and foremost, and despite some setbacks, he always emerged on top. 

The one question that will stop Oprah from running is; What if I lose to Donald Trump?  No, she'll find a diplomatic way of backing out, probably end up backing Corey Booker and his "tears of rage" campaign.

[Argus]

1 hour ago, Hal 9000 said:

What I initially did underestimate is the amount of Americans who would say enough is enough with the cult of celebrity, and to that I am encouraged.  Say what you want about Trump (and you do), but Trump was a business man first and foremost, and despite some setbacks, he always emerged on top. 

Trump is NOT a businessman. He took daddy's money and flipped real estate in New York. Something any idiot could do. But it's not like he made as much as if he'd just put it into the stock market and left it there. Most of his fame as a big, successful businessman comes from a TV show in which he made no decisions and simply said what he was told to say. He is a celebrity in the same way the Kardashians are celebrities, without any noticeable talent except self-promotion.

Edited January 18, 2018 by Argus

[Hal 9000]

2 minutes ago, Argus said:

Trump is NOT a businessman. He took daddy's money and flipped real estate in New York. Something any idiot could do. But it's not like he made as much as if he'd just put it into the stock market and left it there. Most of his fame as a big, successful businessman comes from a TV show in which he made no decisions and simply said what he was told to say. He is a celebrity in the same way the Kardashians are celebrities, without any noticeable talent except self-promotion.

C'mon, you hate Trump - I get it!  Sure, he started out with a pretty good chunk of seed money, but it was him that rolled that money from a couple million to a couple billion.  Trump was plenty successful before he got the TV show - He was given the show because he was Donald Trump not the other way around.  We all knew who Donald Trump was before the show and that's why the show was a success - you cant deny those facts.

Oprah has been very successful too, the difference is; her success is actually tied directly to her show.  Any business that she has undertaken stems directly from attaching her name to products relating to/from the "Oprah" brand.  Oprah has never built or produced anything, she finds a good product, attaches her name and tells her minions to buy it - and they do...faithfully.   

[Rue]

Well according to my sources on the internet, BOTH Oprah and Donald were killed and replaced by Illuminati clone hybrid draco shapeshifters.

http://brobible.com/life/article/donald-trump-killed-illuminati-clone-family/

 

 

[eyeball]

On 1/13/2018 at 3:42 PM, Bonam said:

As for the tax cut bill... the criticism of it is mostly hypocritical BS. If you look at it, all it did was make America's taxes a lot more like Canada's. Reduced corporate rate (it's still higher than in Canada), reduced how much people can deduct local/state taxes (they can't deduct them at all in Canada), reduced how much mortgage interest can be deducted from taxes (it can't be deducted at all in Canada), reduced federal income tax rates (they are still higher, and more progressive, than in Canada), and increased the standard deduction so that far fewer people need to bother with the complexities of the tax code. So how exactly is this some evil bill that harms main street? No, the tax bill is one of the very few things done at the federal level since Trump came into office that's actually a significant step in the right direction. 

It hoodwinks Main Street into believing that ridiculous national debt loads and future deficits can be addressed by relying on the the usual nonsense that reducing a governments revenues actually increases a governments income.

Of course Main Street wants to be hoodwinked because the alternative would be too, you know...

[Argus]

4 hours ago, Hal 9000 said:

C'mon, you hate Trump - I get it!  Sure, he started out with a pretty good chunk of seed money, but it was him that rolled that money from a couple million to a couple billion.  Trump was plenty successful before he got the TV show - He was given the show because he was Donald Trump not the other way around.  We all knew who Donald Trump was before the show and that's why the show was a success - you cant deny those facts.

Yeah, I can. I know something about the stock market. I know something about investment and I know something about business. Trump is famous for operating on his 'gut'. That's not how businessmen operate. Businessmen operate on numbers. It was the fact Trump didn't give a damn about numbers which got his casinos into bankruptcy, which put his airline into bankruptcy, which put his other businesses into bankruptcy. During the negotiations with the bankers over what to do with his businesses, whether to bankrupt everything and take what they could get or try to eke out more money, the bankers decided to let Trump stay in charge for only one reason; he was a great sales guy and promoter. But one of them also said he'd never seen a CEO who had less understanding of or familiarity with the numbers. How much his business cost to operate, how much profit or loss they made, what the margins were, how much he owed, how much his payments were on it, etc. etc. He was a big stupid suit just sitting there while smarter people did the negotiation. They let him stay as a figurehead, but they controlled everything because they didn't trust him to do so. And once they were out, they never loaned money to him again. Not them, and not anyone else in North America. He had to go to the Russians and other Europeans to borrow.

You know how much time you need to devote to running a billion dollar business? You think any real business guy would have the time to spare to do a freaking TV show every week? Trump could do it because he had as little involvement in running anything there as he does now as President.

4 hours ago, Hal 9000 said:

Oprah has been very successful too, the difference is; her success is actually tied directly to her show.  Any business that she has undertaken stems directly from attaching her name to products relating to/from the "Oprah" brand.  Oprah has never built or produced anything, she finds a good product, attaches her name and tells her minions to buy it - and they do...faithfully.   

Trump's success is tied directly to his show too. It's the fame he garnered from his show  and the sense from the unwashed that he's this incredible, tough businessman that let him make a ton of money putting his name on other people's buildings. It's the fame from that show that made the name "Trump" stand for wealth and power and got him back into the game after he nearly bankrupted himself completely.

 

[taxme]

5 hours ago, Argus said:

Trump is NOT a businessman. He took daddy's money and flipped real estate in New York. Something any idiot could do. But it's not like he made as much as if he'd just put it into the stock market and left it there. Most of his fame as a big, successful businessman comes from a TV show in which he made no decisions and simply said what he was told to say. He is a celebrity in the same way the Kardashians are celebrities, without any noticeable talent except self-promotion.

"Trump is not a business man"? Well, what the hell is he then? Trump does own several businesses, don't you know? That should make him a business man. Your hatred for Trump always shows. I suppose that you would have preferred to see crooked and lying Hillary as president then , eh?  A Trump comes along and at least he says that he wants to try and drain the swamp, and then there are people like you that thinks that has to be a bad thing for America and for the rest of the world. It's no wonder Canada is in big trouble with Canadians like you around. I suppose that if we had a similar politician around who wanted to do the same thing here in Canada and drain the Canadian swamp you would be attacking them also, eh? 

Sometimes I can never get where you are coming from. Are you for Trump draining the swamp or are you not? I would really like to know?  

PS: And where did you get this nonsense from that Trump on his TV show was not allowed to make his own decisions and simply did what he was told? What bull. No one tells Trump what he can and cannot say or do. Have you not learned that yet? And everyone has a certain amount of talent that we all would like to promote. You talk so silly at times, dude. 

[Bonam]

47 minutes ago, eyeball said:

It hoodwinks Main Street into believing that ridiculous national debt loads and future deficits can be addressed by relying on the the usual nonsense that reducing a governments revenues actually increases a governments income.

Of course Main Street wants to be hoodwinked because the alternative would be too, you know...

No one cares about deficits any more. The only time people care about deficits is when they can use it to criticize the other party. Whether its left or right that's in power, they want to spend more and tax less, while sweeping the deficit under the rug. I don't think anyone that can read the word "deficit" is under any illusion that the deficit won't go up... they simply don't care. 

[taxme]

10 minutes ago, Bonam said:

No one cares about deficits any more. The only time people care about deficits is when they can use it to criticize the other party. Whether its left or right that's in power, they want to spend more and tax less, while sweeping the deficit under the rug. I don't think anyone that can read the word "deficit" is under any illusion that the deficit won't go up... they simply don't care. 

Politicians just appear to give a shit about we the sheeple. What more can be said. 

[?Impact]

36 minutes ago, taxme said:

Politicians just appear to give a shit about we the sheeple. What more can be said. 

 

1 hour ago, taxme said:

Are you for Trump draining the swamp or are you not?

Oh yeah, I forgot, Trump is not a politician.

 

[August1991]

7 hours ago, Argus said:

Trump's success is tied directly to his show too. It's the fame he garnered from his show  and the sense from the unwashed that he's this incredible, tough businessman that let him make a ton of money putting his name on other people's buildings.

Success? Argus, you touch a critical point. Why is our current PM famous? Is Donald Trump's fame any different from Oprah Winfrey's fame?

I see a big difference between the "fame" of Justin Trudeau, Donald Trump, Oprah Winfrey. Do you?

====

Justin? He had the name but he ran in Papineau, not Mont-Royal.

Make no mistake, Oprah did this on her own - with help.

Trump? He worked in New Jersey real estate.

Edited January 19, 2018 by August1991

[Rue]

Taxme I do not know the Rothchilds or the Illuminati. Lol do not start with me but  I know the shapeshifters. Beware.

Your real issue is with people with scaly skin my friend. Black or brown skin or the size of their nose is the least of your problems.

They eat human flesh-any colour.

[GostHacked]

30 minutes ago, Rue said:

Taxme I do not know the Rothchilds or the Illuminati. Lol do not start with me but  I know the shapeshifters. Beware.

Your real issue is with people with scaly skin my friend. Black or brown skin or the size of their nose is the least of your problems.

They eat human flesh-any colour.

You can simply call them the rich elites, which the Rothchild family is a part of.

[?Impact]

12 hours ago, August1991 said:

I see a big difference between the "fame" of Justin Trudeau, Donald Trump, Oprah Winfrey. Do you?

...

Trump? He worked in New Jersey real estate.

Yes, Trump did have some notoriety from his massive business failures in New Jersey, but I would say in the decade or more before becoming President most people knew him for his Hollywood fame.

[bush_cheney2004]

10 minutes ago, ?Impact said:

Yes, Trump did have some notoriety from his massive business failures in New Jersey, but I would say in the decade or more before becoming President most people knew him for his Hollywood fame.

 

I disagree....Donald Trump has been a prominent fixture in the U.S. for a very long time...long before "Hollywood".

Trump had name recognition that other politicians can only dream of.

Trump was famous years before Winfrey.

Edited January 19, 2018 by bush_cheney2004

[?Impact]

12 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Donald Trump has been a prominent fixture in the U.S. for a very long time...long before "Hollywood".

His first Hollywood appearance was the early 90's - Home Alone

[bush_cheney2004]

7 minutes ago, ?Impact said:

His first Hollywood appearance was the early 90's - Home Alone

 

...because he was already a fixture in American culture....real estate...USFL....boxing promotions....60 Minutes interview...affairs/marriages.

Learning about Donald Trump (in Canada) by watching American media is not the same as living through his famous/infamous history...in real time.

 

 

Edited January 19, 2018 by bush_cheney2004

[?Impact]

6 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Learning about Donald Trump (in Canada) by watching American media is not the same as living through his famous/infamous history...in real time.

I used to fly the Eastern Airlines shuttle from National airport to La Guardia before Trump destroyed it, I have had enough real time for my lifetime.

[bush_cheney2004]

Just now, ?Impact said:

I used to fly the Eastern Airlines shuttle from National airport to La Guardia before Trump destroyed it, I have had enough real time for my lifetime.

 

So what ?   Eastern Airlines was just another comical business disaster, with or without Trump...Borman...or Lorenzo.

Older Americans, the ones with the highest voter turnout, have known Donald Trump for decades....long before Winfrey...long before Clintons.